I think Gates is just trying to dissuade people from buying music from iTMS. Is it coincidence that he would be saying this and Apple have something like 70-80% of digital music downloads?
They are perfectly happy in using DRM in their own software to protect their stuff. Why should he make a point to single out music?
Is it that they don't control that one, and their efforts thusfar have been immune to success?
I've had absolutely no problem with DRM on my music from iTMS. It never gets in the way, I don't even know its there.
Apple iTMS seem to be quite successful at their implementation of the music-company-required DRM with 1.5 billion songs/items sold from their online store.
Seems like Mr Gates is up to his typical tricks. I don't think he would be saying this if their online music download sales were what Apple are generating. He would be saying DRM works just great for music.
Also, is he not just shilling for the music labels here? Don't they prefer people to buy the more expensive packet of CDs rather than a few songs here and there online??
You are correct. However, one might also add Steve Wozniak, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Tim Berners-Lee, Linus Torvalds, et al. Ok, SB&LP are Google, but anyway. What I means it, a lot of innovative, creative, world-changing things are (also?) done outside of such environs.
Now, as far as MS' Research, seems like they like to throw around how much money they spend on it, as if that is the measure of innovation, how much you are spending. Maybe their research won't ever see the light of day in our lifetimes, what do I know, but what the hell is going on it there? I mean for cripes sake, do they ever produce anything or are they just hogging all the brainwave bandwidth for themselves to keep it out of the hands of 'the enemy' ? How can a company with such resources, not come up with basically jack diddly squat? Why are they always the followers? And don't quote me 'Clear Type' and keyboards, please. They've got to have better to show for it than that. Ooops, I ranted. Sorry.
Also, MS is not able to buy out Bungie to get an exclusive on a very highly anticipated product and use it to propel their console sales. I don't know if there is the likes of a Bungie or a Halo for the Zune. Would X-Box have had the 'success' it has to date were it not for it's exclusive control of Halo? Unless Zune buys out the music/movie labels and makes the content Zune-only, I don't think there is much they can do other than pump it, hype it, astroturf it, and sell it at a loss for years, hoping to one day have enough relevance to poison the market. If they can't control the well, they'll glady poison it so no one else can control or even share it.
Man, how many times you going to copy-paste this shit? It would seem you yourself are the 'zealot' of which you speak, in your over zealous denegration of Linux. Using the term "Linux zealots" in this manner is a big bright flashing neon sign saying "I'm a dick."
Are any of those statements not true? If so then you can't just blow it off by saying it is FUD and anti-MS vitriol. The tone may well convey such, but the statements:
"better integration with media players sanctioned by them, "
"integration with their new URGE music service. "
"Additionally, and more importantly, this version contains the latest in Microsoft DRM software. "
"Interested parties can download a free copy"
don't appear to be "FUD".
The only thing might be "Looks like the major updates in this version are for the Microsoft marketing engine.", but even that is qualified by the phrase "Looks like".
The TONE does not make it FUD.
Distortion of the truth, saying things that are simply false, stating half-truths, saying things that are not yet even real but causing people to think they might be later. That is FUD. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. Stating facts, regardless of what slant, you likee no likee, doesn't in itself I think engender such fear, anxiety and doubt, as that which is most typical and most skillfully done from the mouths of MS. (and others).
Non-impartial != FUD
"I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." --Hal.
Are any of those statements not true? If so then you can't just blow it off by saying it is FUD and anti-MS vitriol. The tone may well convey such, but the statements:
"better integration with media players sanctioned by them, "
"integration with their new URGE music service. "
"Additionally, and more importantly, this version contains the latest in Microsoft DRM software. "
"Interested parties can download a free copy"
don't appear to be "FUD".
The only thing might be "Looks like the major updates in this version are for the Microsoft marketing engine.", but even that is qualified by the phrase "Looks like".
"I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." --Hal.
This sounded pretty cool, and then I hit the 'subscription fee'. Dang, man, what is it with these 'subscription fees' ? Ok, $99, actually $100 with a haircut, is not so terrible an amount, but is the value there? Seems like they would get more mileage out of this thing if they didn't charge an annual fee and just let folks work together.
You haven't noticed that eWeek is a defacto Microsoft brand? Every page in that print rag has something to say about MS, and all sounding like it was approved by Edelstrom and Whatever. Explains a lot. I let them keep sending it to me but toss it in the trash hoping to cost them a few pennies. Ok, the postal service had to carry it, but presumably this was paid for, at least to mail it?
HA! I got some other words "Bush Appointed Attorney General". Look what (didn't) happen the last time. New AG, new head of Antitrust, MS gets an apology for bothering such a great, innovative, competitive American company, and is allowed to write their own 'punishment'. MS ain't got nothing to fear with any piddling nuisance antitrust suits. They got lots of money, lawyers, and time.
Will the Microsoft robot have the 3 Laws, but then bribe itself to get away with breaking them?? And then let it decide it's own punishment for doing so??
This is my experience as well, not personally, but from my wife and friends who grew up in mainland China. If you scored well on the test in high school, you could go to university, if not, you could go to some 'lesser' school, or go right to work. Often you could take over your parent's job wherever they worked, or you could get set up to work someplace else, espcecially if you know someone that knows someone, etc.
But basically if you don't score well enough on the exam, you don't go.
Getting into a university there is not as easy as it is in US, although US doesn't exactly take 'walk ins', either.
If you can get in to a decent-to-good university, get a degree, you have a chance at getting into a graduate program in another country, (US, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Australia, etc), maybe even with a sufficient scholarship, and later land a job with a company in that country and eventually get naturalized. It is 'apparently' deuced difficult for a non-university grad to get a student visa to an undergrad program in the US. You might get admitted, but that in no way means the US consulate will grant you a visa. If you get into some grad program where they are going to fund you, it is easier to get a visa from the US consulate.
"We barely had to pitch Exchange to get businesses off of Notes, we just went down the list of suckage and asked which items applied to their current environment."
This was of course after you beat Notes. I mean after you beat Notes it was no problem. We all remember when you beat Notes, and often say, "Wow, remember when they beat Notes?" "Yeah, that was great when they beat Notes."
Makes me wonder what else you guys like to 'beat'.
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"Is it time to change the Bill Gates Borg to the Steve Balmer Borg?"
Maybe. But Bill has to be the Queen Borg.
"Damn Darl! He can go find someone else to do him up the ass with a strap on."
I would venture to say that this will eventually be IBM.
Thank you for that. I've had that tune in my head and the little lions too. "Onl-y in Kenya!!"
My Sense May Seem MoStly MiStaken, but no MyStery outcoMeS ManifeSt theMSelves.
From the source....
I think Gates is just trying to dissuade people from buying music from iTMS. Is it coincidence that he would be saying this and Apple have something like 70-80% of digital music downloads?
They are perfectly happy in using DRM in their own software to protect their stuff. Why should he make a point to single out music?
Is it that they don't control that one, and their efforts thusfar have been immune to success?
I've had absolutely no problem with DRM on my music from iTMS. It never gets in the way, I don't even know its there.
Apple iTMS seem to be quite successful at their implementation of the music-company-required DRM with 1.5 billion songs/items sold from their online store.
Seems like Mr Gates is up to his typical tricks. I don't think he would be saying this if their online music download sales were what Apple are generating. He would be saying DRM works just great for music.
Also, is he not just shilling for the music labels here? Don't they prefer people to buy the more expensive packet of CDs rather than a few songs here and there online??
Check here:
Microsoft Hall of Innovation
and here : The (Nearly) Whole Microsoft Catalog which shows from whence 'their' products were derived, bought, etc.
You are correct. However, one might also add Steve Wozniak, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Tim Berners-Lee, Linus Torvalds, et al. Ok, SB&LP are Google, but anyway. What I means it, a lot of innovative, creative, world-changing things are (also?) done outside of such environs.
Now, as far as MS' Research, seems like they like to throw around how much money they spend on it, as if that is the measure of innovation, how much you are spending. Maybe their research won't ever see the light of day in our lifetimes, what do I know, but what the hell is going on it there? I mean for cripes sake, do they ever produce anything or are they just hogging all the brainwave bandwidth for themselves to keep it out of the hands of 'the enemy' ? How can a company with such resources, not come up with basically jack diddly squat? Why are they always the followers? And don't quote me 'Clear Type' and keyboards, please. They've got to have better to show for it than that. Ooops, I ranted. Sorry.
"I thought that Sony was the beginning of the end of Sony"
No, Sony is the beginning of the end of Sony. --Zathras
Looks like these poor sods have got squirted on already : Zune Scene Support
A particularly ironic post is from one named 'zuneipodkiller' who pleads for someone to help get the software installed.
Also, MS is not able to buy out Bungie to get an exclusive on a very highly anticipated product and use it to propel their console sales. I don't know if there is the likes of a Bungie or a Halo for the Zune. Would X-Box have had the 'success' it has to date were it not for it's exclusive control of Halo? Unless Zune buys out the music/movie labels and makes the content Zune-only, I don't think there is much they can do other than pump it, hype it, astroturf it, and sell it at a loss for years, hoping to one day have enough relevance to poison the market. If they can't control the well, they'll glady poison it so no one else can control or even share it.
It's like the SAT, just answer 'C' for everything you don't know.
Rhesus has better command of the English language and grammar, and is capable of learning from mistakes.
Man, how many times you going to copy-paste this shit? It would seem you yourself are the 'zealot' of which you speak, in your over zealous denegration of Linux. Using the term "Linux zealots" in this manner is a big bright flashing neon sign saying "I'm a dick."
don't appear to be "FUD".
The only thing might be "Looks like the major updates in this version are for the Microsoft marketing engine.", but even that is qualified by the phrase "Looks like".
The TONE does not make it FUD.
Distortion of the truth, saying things that are simply false, stating half-truths, saying things that are not yet even real but causing people to think they might be later. That is FUD. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. Stating facts, regardless of what slant, you likee no likee, doesn't in itself I think engender such fear, anxiety and doubt, as that which is most typical and most skillfully done from the mouths of MS. (and others).
Non-impartial != FUD
"I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." --Hal.
don't appear to be "FUD". The only thing might be "Looks like the major updates in this version are for the Microsoft marketing engine.", but even that is qualified by the phrase "Looks like".
"I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." --Hal.
Dang, man, were you trained by the Bene Gesserit or a Tleilaxu grown mentat ? I'm impressed.
This sounded pretty cool, and then I hit the 'subscription fee'. Dang, man, what is it with these 'subscription fees' ? Ok, $99, actually $100 with a haircut, is not so terrible an amount, but is the value there? Seems like they would get more mileage out of this thing if they didn't charge an annual fee and just let folks work together.
You haven't noticed that eWeek is a defacto Microsoft brand? Every page in that print rag has something to say about MS, and all sounding like it was approved by Edelstrom and Whatever. Explains a lot. I let them keep sending it to me but toss it in the trash hoping to cost them a few pennies. Ok, the postal service had to carry it, but presumably this was paid for, at least to mail it?
You'd have to be a blind cyclops to not get that joke.
"2 words - 'Anti-Trust' and 'legislation'"
HA! I got some other words "Bush Appointed Attorney General". Look what (didn't) happen the last time. New AG, new head of Antitrust, MS gets an apology for bothering such a great, innovative, competitive American company, and is allowed to write their own 'punishment'. MS ain't got nothing to fear with any piddling nuisance antitrust suits. They got lots of money, lawyers, and time.
Will the Microsoft robot have the 3 Laws, but then bribe itself to get away with breaking them?? And then let it decide it's own punishment for doing so??
This is my experience as well, not personally, but from my wife and friends who grew up in mainland China. If you scored well on the test in high school, you could go to university, if not, you could go to some 'lesser' school, or go right to work. Often you could take over your parent's job wherever they worked, or you could get set up to work someplace else, espcecially if you know someone that knows someone, etc.
But basically if you don't score well enough on the exam, you don't go.
Getting into a university there is not as easy as it is in US, although US doesn't exactly take 'walk ins', either.
If you can get in to a decent-to-good university, get a degree, you have a chance at getting into a graduate program in another country, (US, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Australia, etc), maybe even with a sufficient scholarship, and later land a job with a company in that country and eventually get naturalized. It is 'apparently' deuced difficult for a non-university grad to get a student visa to an undergrad program in the US. You might get admitted, but that in no way means the US consulate will grant you a visa. If you get into some grad program where they are going to fund you, it is easier to get a visa from the US consulate.
"We barely had to pitch Exchange to get businesses off of Notes, we just went down the list of suckage and asked which items applied to their current environment."
This was of course after you beat Notes. I mean after you beat Notes it was no problem. We all remember when you beat Notes, and often say, "Wow, remember when they beat Notes?" "Yeah, that was great when they beat Notes."
Makes me wonder what else you guys like to 'beat'.
You are an ASCII god. Ok, maybe not a 'god' per se, but it was pretty damn clever.