"The pricing and model beats iTunes. Many, many services will end up using Microsoft DRM. When people wake up and look beyond the fatuous Apple image to practical realities, Microsoft DRM will come out the winner."
Well, maybe fine for you and others, but for me...my own personal "practical reality" is that there is no way in hell I am gonna pay a monthly subscription fee. No frakkin way. It has absolutely nothing to do with cutesy products, what the 16-25 year old set think is hot, the color of the headphones. I don't know of any other unquestionably legal service that will 1) let me only pay when I want to 'buy' something, and 2) will work on our non-Windows machines.
I had to go look, because I don't recall what it looks like, and just compare the difference between MSN and Google and the difference is like black and white, night and day, Sith and jedi, um,...anyway, the difference is obvious. Although I freely admit that it wasn't obvious maybe at first about Senator Palpatine.
Well, what attracted me, and I'm sure a lot of others, to use Google, was the main page was just their name and a text box. Damn, that was sweet. No dancing animations, no freeking Flash ad anims to load, no 56 other ad images to load, no weather box, no sports box, no news box, no attempt to be Yet Another Portal Site, just a damn text entry box to search for what I wanted. Man, that was lovely to see and use. And the search results were pretty good, I didn't have a problem with them, and the presentation of the results was clean, too, and they didn't use any wild, exotic, convoluted code for the page, (ie it rendered fine in a non-IE browser, on a non-Windows platform). Just Search relatively plain and simple and easy to use, the way $ONE_OR_MORE_DEITY meant it to be. And yes, there were ads, but there were nice friendly well mannered unobtrusive text ads that didn't piss me off. It was more a clean simple interface, painless to use, which was a major difference for many at the time, and at the minimum decent results, that drew people to use it like bees to honey. That's what they first did right , IMO.
"Well there is an old saying. You get what you pay for. If you want good tech support that isn't offshore then you better be willing to pay more than $400 for a full PC. Good people cost money. Heck even bad people cost money."
True. I like to say : You might actually get "up to" what you pay for, and maybe less than what you paid for, but you damn sure ~won't~ get what you ~don't~ pay for. ("usually")
self cleaning, everything, everywhere indoors, windows outdoors
food storage areas would know when out of certain specified things and order more which would be delivered by automatic robot vans and brought in the house and stored automatically, from behind the cabinets, ice boxes, etc;
cold storage in more than one room, built in;
better tuning of room environments, different rooms might be a little/warmer or cooler
energy efficient, solar, etc where possible, to the degree possible
windows that you can manually or automatically darken or lighten
of course automated sprinkler watering fertilizing weeding mowing
big phat internet pipes
big flat screen hdtvs various sizes multiple rooms
built in phone system such that only alerts me to a call if someone i care to talk to, or will tell me who it gave the brush off to, etc
voice interactive throughout
i want coffee dammit automatically in the morning and i don't want to have to prep it the night before, and i want it in a cup ready to go
mail is automatically opened scanned trashed shredded read parsed digitized stored acted on
lots of space
garage opens automatically when cars approach and closes door
garage is less like a barn than a nice sort of indoor place to park you car
environment is maintained in garage
garage is wireless communicate with car for mainenance scheduling
cars are automatically updated with music programs hdtv etc
automatic and i mean automatic dish washer it will take everything off the basket tub or whatever, sort it out put in some machine, set the temp etc then when done will route them all back to the right places from behind so i don't even have to put them up
heated deicing walkways auto or manual
soundproofing
insulated like a MF
air is filtered filtered filtered and humdity is controlled
can auto or manual use recycle air or use outside air to refresh or some mix
air quality monitored, allergens, oxygen content, adjusted
self cleaning filling disposing litter box or catbox area
i wanna go up to the front door and say open the pod bay door please hal and the house will get it as a joke and open the door (not make me come in through the chimney)
videophone everyroom multiple locations where convenient
the house knows where everything is; i can ask where is that wrapping paper from last year or where are those little shelf holders we put in a jar and it can tell me
house can start shower or bath dispense bath oil etc add heat to the bathroom in cold season when drying off
Flipping brilliant! Thank you. Ahh, yes, the memories.
Innocently asking the TA "What's a seg fault?"
Innocence was soon dashed, as the Holy K&R I consumed.
C'mon, no one remembers "solid Krell metal"?? or THX1138, Lucas' first film ???? Or how about Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Edward James (Adama) Olmos, Daryl Hannah, and the lovely Sean Young in "he say you bladerunnah"??
Maybe someone else mentioned them. Or maybe it's just me. Maybe. "I just do eyes."
"I"m pretty sure there are quite a few laws against him holding the CEO position at both companies."
You do know that Jobs has been CEO of both Pixar and Apple since 1998 or something when he officially took the CEO job at Apple, right? It might be more of a matter to the boards and shareholders voting whether it is "allowed", and maybe there is some legal thing to get around, I don't know, but apparently it is not the case that are not a lot of laws against someone being CEO of two separate companies.
yeah, the browser runs on the os, but the apps and functionality that are running on/in/through the browser, don't care about the os, necessarily; so you don't have to run windows to run google maps, etc etc etc; maybe the browser is not so much a platform here per se but it is a/the means to access the web-based functionality that is rich enough to amount to something that draws people;
" If you can't tell, I'd kill for a self-checkout option at the apple store."
yeah, I would agree; on at least one conditon; no paying with cash!! I always get behind some sod who pays for things with a fistfull of coins; GAHH!!! "hell, man, move it out, ~I'll~ pay for your damn groceries myself!"
The only reason that MS would buy Opera would be to stick it in a deep dark place where it would never ever be found, except to may 1) rip code off from it, and/or 2) try and use it as a basis from which to slap IP lawsuits against erstwhile competitors. There is no way in hell that MS is going to rip out IE, or in any other such fashion shoehorn or munge Opera code or Opera-like code into the picture. Just no freekin' way. Why should they? It is no longer in their interest to make IE available for other non-MS platforms, as it is no longer needed to help them be #1 in browser share. Yeah, it would be cool if they did, and used it to cover all these platforms and with an app, (note "app" not "OS functionality"), that was more secure, but that presupposes that they care about that. I submit that they don't. If MS were to buy Opera, then the fat lady will indeed have sung. (pun intended, sorry)
NO!!!!!!! Gorram networks. At least we have plenty of American Idol, Survivor, Anna Nicole Smith, Paris Hilton, and other such utter craptastic DRECK. Sigh....
Actually, nope. Good point, but nope. Just everywhere the string "CString" appears, global replace with "char *". Nevermind about any member methods of CString that are being called, etc. I tried to explain about how those CString objects were 'objects', instantiations of the CString 'class', they have data and methods/functions that operate on that data, that you can't just make them all char* willy nilly. "int curlen; char * myObj; myObj ="some junk"; curlen = myObj.length();" isn't going to work now. Is supposed to be a C++ dev.
Actually....Leon shoots first....
I dont like our overly-litigious societies : SUE
I say we take off, and litigate the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
"The pricing and model beats iTunes. Many, many services will end up using Microsoft DRM. When people wake up and look beyond the fatuous Apple image to practical realities, Microsoft DRM will come out the winner."
Well, maybe fine for you and others, but for me...my own personal "practical reality" is that there is no way in hell I am gonna pay a monthly subscription fee. No frakkin way. It has absolutely nothing to do with cutesy products, what the 16-25 year old set think is hot, the color of the headphones. I don't know of any other unquestionably legal service that will 1) let me only pay when I want to 'buy' something, and 2) will work on our non-Windows machines.
"It's especially true of companies who are circling the drain. (SCO, anyone?)"
I had this image of some company, circling the black hole, spewing out gamma rays of litigation as it goes into oblivion.
I had to go look, because I don't recall what it looks like, and just compare the difference between MSN and Google and the difference is like black and white, night and day, Sith and jedi, um,...anyway, the difference is obvious. Although I freely admit that it wasn't obvious maybe at first about Senator Palpatine.
Well, what attracted me, and I'm sure a lot of others, to use Google, was the main page was just their name and a text box. Damn, that was sweet. No dancing animations, no freeking Flash ad anims to load, no 56 other ad images to load, no weather box, no sports box, no news box, no attempt to be Yet Another Portal Site, just a damn text entry box to search for what I wanted. Man, that was lovely to see and use. And the search results were pretty good, I didn't have a problem with them, and the presentation of the results was clean, too, and they didn't use any wild, exotic, convoluted code for the page, (ie it rendered fine in a non-IE browser, on a non-Windows platform). Just Search relatively plain and simple and easy to use, the way $ONE_OR_MORE_DEITY meant it to be. And yes, there were ads, but there were nice friendly well mannered unobtrusive text ads that didn't piss me off. It was more a clean simple interface, painless to use, which was a major difference for many at the time, and at the minimum decent results, that drew people to use it like bees to honey. That's what they first did right , IMO.
The AI will be so accurate that geeks will be invisible to them, too.
"Well there is an old saying. You get what you pay for. If you want good tech support that isn't offshore then you better be willing to pay more than $400 for a full PC. Good people cost money. Heck even bad people cost money."
True. I like to say : You might actually get "up to" what you pay for, and maybe less than what you paid for, but you damn sure ~won't~ get what you ~don't~ pay for. ("usually")
Flipping brilliant! Thank you. Ahh, yes, the memories. Innocently asking the TA "What's a seg fault?" Innocence was soon dashed, as the Holy K&R I consumed.
C'mon, no one remembers "solid Krell metal"?? or THX1138, Lucas' first film ???? Or how about Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Edward James (Adama) Olmos, Daryl Hannah, and the lovely Sean Young in "he say you bladerunnah"??
Maybe someone else mentioned them. Or maybe it's just me. Maybe. "I just do eyes."
"Robert is your mothers brother "
HA! I've never heard it put that way before. Thanks!
(yeah, I know....-1 Offtopic)
hmm. Like the one above this one?? ;-)
"I"m pretty sure there are quite a few laws against him holding the CEO position at both companies."
You do know that Jobs has been CEO of both Pixar and Apple since 1998 or something when he officially took the CEO job at Apple, right? It might be more of a matter to the boards and shareholders voting whether it is "allowed", and maybe there is some legal thing to get around, I don't know, but apparently it is not the case that are not a lot of laws against someone being CEO of two separate companies.
"France comes to mind immediately."
There is something oddly ironic in there somewhere....
And we didn't say what the puppy was doing when it got, um, 'strangled'. I know, I'm sick, sorry, bad joke, my bad.
yeah, the browser runs on the os, but the apps and functionality that are running on/in/through the browser, don't care about the os, necessarily; so you don't have to run windows to run google maps, etc etc etc; maybe the browser is not so much a platform here per se but it is a/the means to access the web-based functionality that is rich enough to amount to something that draws people;
They can't. He's something like the "Chief Software Architect", or something. I heard he's got some kind of inside connection.
ACH!!! Mein eyes!!! Zee goggles, zey do nuzzzing!!!!!
" If you can't tell, I'd kill for a self-checkout option at the apple store."
yeah, I would agree; on at least one conditon; no paying with cash!! I always get behind some sod who pays for things with a fistfull of coins; GAHH!!! "hell, man, move it out, ~I'll~ pay for your damn groceries myself!"
The only reason that MS would buy Opera would be to stick it in a deep dark place where it would never ever be found, except to may 1) rip code off from it, and/or 2) try and use it as a basis from which to slap IP lawsuits against erstwhile competitors. There is no way in hell that MS is going to rip out IE, or in any other such fashion shoehorn or munge Opera code or Opera-like code into the picture. Just no freekin' way. Why should they? It is no longer in their interest to make IE available for other non-MS platforms, as it is no longer needed to help them be #1 in browser share. Yeah, it would be cool if they did, and used it to cover all these platforms and with an app, (note "app" not "OS functionality"), that was more secure, but that presupposes that they care about that. I submit that they don't. If MS were to buy Opera, then the fat lady will indeed have sung. (pun intended, sorry)
NO!!!!!!! Gorram networks. At least we have plenty of American Idol, Survivor, Anna Nicole Smith, Paris Hilton, and other such utter craptastic DRECK. Sigh....
Actually, nope. Good point, but nope. Just everywhere the string "CString" appears, global replace with "char *". Nevermind about any member methods of CString that are being called, etc. I tried to explain about how those CString objects were 'objects', instantiations of the CString 'class', they have data and methods/functions that operate on that data, that you can't just make them all char* willy nilly. "int curlen; char * myObj; myObj ="some junk"; curlen = myObj.length();" isn't going to work now. Is supposed to be a C++ dev.
and I would apparently have to add : "and senile gets you missing closing italics tags on /. posts". sigh.....
Hey, you kids!! Get off my lawn!! (shakes fist)