I am curious as to why China's Linux is 'notorious'? What makes it so? I think the editors here are just biased against China and are acting very unprofessionally here by taking a stab at China for no reason.
until Windows 2000 or other popular, but closed source Server operating systems and applications are ported, it's just an academic processor
Windows Whistler (successor to Windows 2000/Me, currently in beta) supports IA-64, Microsoft has already released Windows Whistler Professional and Advanced Server versions for IA-64.
Being from Hong Kong, I can probably offer a different perspective as to what he situation is - and that is that Hong Kong and China are developing both technologically and economically independent of each other. Remember that Hong Kong is for all purposes separate from China, and what happens in one place does not necessarily affect the other.
I cannot think of one example of how Hong Kong is shaping China technologially, or vice versa. But one thing that I can tell you all is that China is advancing amazingly quickly technologially. They may be communist, but that does not at all mean that they are slow at adopting new technology - cable modem is now slowly sifting into big cities, mobile phones are becoming more common, and so on - its an irreversible trend.
Hong Kong on the other hand is just about as technologically advanced as you get. Internet technology wise, cool widgets wise and all. 6.7 million people, 4 million mobile phones, 2.5 million land line phones - that says it all.
Has it ever occured to anyone just how unobjective Kirch was when he set out to write his Kirch Paper. I mean the guy wanted to prove a point, he found facts that backed up his point (ignoring the others) and wrote it up. Sounds pretty much like propaganda to me, nothing objective there at all.
Anyone who has used Windows knows damn well that Linux has light years to catch up in terms of usability as compared to Windows. Suck it up and admit it. I've tried Linux myself, all I wanted to do was to get my PCMCIA LAN card to work, but... oh yeah Linux's PCMCIA card support is lousy to non-existent.
You gotta understand that most people don't have DSL. Dialup is still standard fare, even in the States.
Also, there are so many configurations for network setups that it may not always be possible to support all of them. It would be a technical support nightmare if they had to support DHCP routers, static IPs, PPPoE and so many other different kinds of logins that a network card could use.
With dialup its easy - 1 standard, 1 method for connecting - no ambiguity.
You gotta be kidding me. To call Linux a viable consumer OS is fooling no one but yourself. Its not in any sense of the word. I'm pretty technical, and understand quite a bit about computers and consider myself pretty intelligent when it comes to these things, and I still hate configuring X to work. Firstly, it should configure itself, and secondly it should just work. If I think this... any novice computer user is just gonna say 'fuck that I don't have time for this nonsense!!'.
I'm sure that they are thinking - 'lets give the companies an alternative TLD to use'. Unfortunately, if I was a EU company, I would still register the.com,.net and.org TLDs anyway, so this doesn't really reduce domain squatting at all does it?
I guess they could prevent it in the EU TLD by imposing crazy rules to actually register a domain, like here in Hong Kong, myself as an individial, I can't even register a domain,.com needs a business license,.net an ISP license, and.org a non-profit organisation license. So I really had no choice but to register on the.org TLD for my own use...
I thinking the same thing is going to happen with this EU TLD from the looks of it. Maybe the EU TLD will be 'cleaner' in the sense that so many people won't squat in it, but by no stretch of the imagination is it going to improve the situation with the worldwide TLDs (and yes, they are WORLDWIDE, NOT AMERICAN TLDs...which so many people seem confuse them for).
I find it very hypocritical when people complain that Windows games are not ported to Linux, when they fail to complain when Linux games are not ported to Windows.
The fact is that Windows has DirectX, which blows away anything that is available on Linux... not by a bit, but by a whole freaking lot. Its not surprising that people find it tough to write games for Linux.
Basically, you guys are saying that capitalism should not be allowed to work. People develop where the money is, and thats NOT on Linux... whether you like it or not.
Thanks - the rant wasn't aimed at you personally. I was just pissed off at the system caused it has screwed me over like this more than once before this time.
I submitted this article HOURS before it was posted on/., and it was declined HOURS before the post as well. This is what I see:
2000-03-14 21:44:14 RealNetworks licenses Microsoft's Windows Media te (articles,news) (declined)
WHY? Why does someone else get the article and not me since I clearly got to it before them? Slashdot's flawed moderation/sumbmission system fails again.
I'm surprised. I live in Hong Kong and I found NSI to be very helpful. So much to the extent that not only did they have quick support, but they always offered to call me back in Hong Kong so that I would not have to pay long distance charges to call them.
I call that great service. I've had a good experience with NSI. But they are very expensive compared to other registrars so I'm thinking of switching.
You're gonna ruin the whole fun of the Internet for those who you tell these rules to. They rule I tell people is to be careful and not do anything they wouldn't do in person. BUT, if anyone follows your instructions they end up with a largely nonfunctional browser, websites that can't customise pages.
Who the hell is going to expect email? I don't expect email from my friends at specific times. When it comes I read it. Simple. I don't call them up to check: "Hey, I have an email from xxx with xxx timestamp, is it yours?".
I think you're going way overboard, why not just disconnect from the net completely. Don't forget to disconnect your fd0 and cdrom or someone could install a exploit.
We will see how all this is finally implemented given the possible problems in any Internet voting system: I have about 20 email addresses and could create thousands more in any of the free email services; it seems easy to vote hundreds of times beeing unnoticed, isn't it?
How this will work is that whenever you sign up for an account, for them to activate they account you need to wait for a PIN number that they mail to you by post. So unless you have 20 postal addresses as well you're stuck with one vote - which is how the system is intended.
You know, some advertisers have technology to serve you ads that you are more likely to be interested in.
Too bad they mixed it in with a bunch of privacy-compromising technology.
I hate to break it to you, but relevant ads and privacy are mutually exclusive. You cannot have both without having to download evey single ad gif and installing client-end software to choose which ads to display. Its not practical at all.
In the way it is currently (and probably best) implemented (I say best because I never actually notice the ads) there is no way to have privacy and relevant ads.
Good to see updates of the code... it certainly puts the nail in the coffin the/. team is uncommitted to keeping the code current and that they just released unfinished code to appease the whiners.
Having taken a quick look at the posts with the threshold set to four I find it disturbing that all the posts are so one sided. In a commninity that prides itself on being open mided, there is clearly a closed mindset in view here.
I live in Hong Kong. I am Indian. I find it interesting to sometimes see how Americans are so unobjective when they read news. Any news that honours America is 'Insightful' (to put it in terms/.tters will understand), as is any news that trashes some other country.
There is a need for objectivity when we read news. If you just accept what you read without thinking about it then you are as bad as the people who write it. I know some Americans and while I recognise they may not be representative of the whole population, to them, the world ends at the American borders.
I know people who have been asked, "How long a drive away is Hong Kong?", or "Is Hong Kong in Vermont?", or "Do you speak Japanese?". Clearly, a wider teaching of things non-American should be put on the agenda in schools, as should critical thinking.
Now, how does this relate to this topic? I've seen posts that call China fascist. It is not. Posts that claim China does not allow private enterprises. It does - the big thing in the 1980's and early 1990's was privatisation of state-owned industries, and Deng Xiaoping set up special economic zones for foreigners to invest in China.
A need for research is apparent. Do not believe everything CNN tells you. BBC is far more objective than CNN, but I do admit its horrendously boring. CNN tells you one side of each story: the American side.
I study history in school, its taught me to discern and see what is reliable and what is not, what is a good source of information and what is not.
China is not an 'evil' state, as someone so ineloquently put it. It is a state with a different type of government. I can see myself that it has a bad rights record, and such, and it is plainly obvious that thats what all of you see too, the side that CNN likes to tell you guys about.
But what I think a lot of people in Asia see is that China has been advancing steadily since the days of Mao. It is developing as quickly as can be expected for a 1-billion person strong country. You cannot just give universal suffrage and expect people to vote cluefully. People need to be educated first. Some things, such as this issue at hand here of web censorship I think are wrong and I do not agree with. But, it does not mean that China is has a bad government.
To sum it up, this is my complaint about posters on/.:
If America does something wrong: Yes its wrong, but we are the best nation in the world, and we are mostly right. Its OK for us to screw up sometimes.
If China does something wrong: Yes its wrong, we knew all along that China is a bunch of communist fascists with no morals. What does this change?
This view has got to change. I'm sorry for making it sound like all Americans do this. They don't. But by and large, most Americans do./. has a worldwide audience, and again, I apologise for those posters from other countries for making this an American-centric post. But it does seem that most of the anti-China sentiment comes from within the US.
I'm getting 530 Too many users as well (and have been for a pretty long time). Could they be deliberately trying to stop people from getting their distribution? Like setting maxusers to 0 or something?:)
I was always under the impression that Norway did not do this kind of stuff. They seemed (do they still?) to have a very open stance on crypto and other such issues and have been rated highly by people who monitor 'internet rights' as I could no-so-eloquently put it.
This seems to be an about turn over what Norway has been doing in the past, which AFAIK has been almost nothing to regulate computer and internet use.
One wonders how much pressure the Norwegian Government has received to do this, if any at all, and if they have, then from who? The US Government? The MPAA?
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Windows 95 runs on a Pentium 4. Why shouldn't Linux? Oh yeah, I forgot that hardware compatibility (even basic hardware) sucks ass on Linux ...
I am curious as to why China's Linux is 'notorious'? What makes it so? I think the editors here are just biased against China and are acting very unprofessionally here by taking a stab at China for no reason.
Windows Whistler (successor to Windows 2000/Me, currently in beta) supports IA-64, Microsoft has already released Windows Whistler Professional and Advanced Server versions for IA-64.
Being from Hong Kong, I can probably offer a different perspective as to what he situation is - and that is that Hong Kong and China are developing both technologically and economically independent of each other. Remember that Hong Kong is for all purposes separate from China, and what happens in one place does not necessarily affect the other.
I cannot think of one example of how Hong Kong is shaping China technologially, or vice versa. But one thing that I can tell you all is that China is advancing amazingly quickly technologially. They may be communist, but that does not at all mean that they are slow at adopting new technology - cable modem is now slowly sifting into big cities, mobile phones are becoming more common, and so on - its an irreversible trend.
Hong Kong on the other hand is just about as technologically advanced as you get. Internet technology wise, cool widgets wise and all. 6.7 million people, 4 million mobile phones, 2.5 million land line phones - that says it all.
Has it ever occured to anyone just how unobjective Kirch was when he set out to write his Kirch Paper. I mean the guy wanted to prove a point, he found facts that backed up his point (ignoring the others) and wrote it up. Sounds pretty much like propaganda to me, nothing objective there at all.
... oh yeah Linux's PCMCIA card support is lousy to non-existent.
Anyone who has used Windows knows damn well that Linux has light years to catch up in terms of usability as compared to Windows. Suck it up and admit it. I've tried Linux myself, all I wanted to do was to get my PCMCIA LAN card to work, but
You gotta understand that most people don't have DSL. Dialup is still standard fare, even in the States.
Also, there are so many configurations for network setups that it may not always be possible to support all of them. It would be a technical support nightmare if they had to support DHCP routers, static IPs, PPPoE and so many other different kinds of logins that a network card could use.
With dialup its easy - 1 standard, 1 method for connecting - no ambiguity.
No, just the plaintiff.
Face it...
Is this really a good thing? Do we want to turn space into the same junkyard that we've turned Earth into?
I'm sure that they are thinking - 'lets give the companies an alternative TLD to use'. Unfortunately, if I was a EU company, I would still register the .com, .net and .org TLDs anyway, so this doesn't really reduce domain squatting at all does it?
.com needs a business license, .net an ISP license, and .org a non-profit organisation license. So I really had no choice but to register on the .org TLD for my own use...
I guess they could prevent it in the EU TLD by imposing crazy rules to actually register a domain, like here in Hong Kong, myself as an individial, I can't even register a domain,
I thinking the same thing is going to happen with this EU TLD from the looks of it. Maybe the EU TLD will be 'cleaner' in the sense that so many people won't squat in it, but by no stretch of the imagination is it going to improve the situation with the worldwide TLDs (and yes, they are WORLDWIDE, NOT AMERICAN TLDs...which so many people seem confuse them for).
I find it very hypocritical when people complain that Windows games are not ported to Linux, when they fail to complain when Linux games are not ported to Windows.
The fact is that Windows has DirectX, which blows away anything that is available on Linux... not by a bit, but by a whole freaking lot. Its not surprising that people find it tough to write games for Linux.
Basically, you guys are saying that capitalism should not be allowed to work. People develop where the money is, and thats NOT on Linux... whether you like it or not.
Thanks - the rant wasn't aimed at you personally. I was just pissed off at the system caused it has screwed me over like this more than once before this time.
I submitted this article HOURS before it was posted on /., and it was declined HOURS before the post as well. This is what I see:
2000-03-14 21:44:14 RealNetworks licenses Microsoft's Windows Media te (articles,news) (declined)
WHY? Why does someone else get the article and not me since I clearly got to it before them? Slashdot's flawed moderation/sumbmission system fails again.
I call that great service. I've had a good experience with NSI. But they are very expensive compared to other registrars so I'm thinking of switching.
You're gonna ruin the whole fun of the Internet for those who you tell these rules to. They rule I tell people is to be careful and not do anything they wouldn't do in person. BUT, if anyone follows your instructions they end up with a largely nonfunctional browser, websites that can't customise pages.
Who the hell is going to expect email? I don't expect email from my friends at specific times. When it comes I read it. Simple. I don't call them up to check: "Hey, I have an email from xxx with xxx timestamp, is it yours?".
I think you're going way overboard, why not just disconnect from the net completely. Don't forget to disconnect your fd0 and cdrom or someone could install a exploit.
Thankfully this is not what they did, I'm still 17.
How this will work is that whenever you sign up for an account, for them to activate they account you need to wait for a PIN number that they mail to you by post. So unless you have 20 postal addresses as well you're stuck with one vote - which is how the system is intended.
Too bad they mixed it in with a bunch of privacy-compromising technology.
I hate to break it to you, but relevant ads and privacy are mutually exclusive. You cannot have both without having to download evey single ad gif and installing client-end software to choose which ads to display. Its not practical at all.
In the way it is currently (and probably best) implemented (I say best because I never actually notice the ads) there is no way to have privacy and relevant ads.
Y = Bandwidth once they block dialpad
I think it would be very interesting if they found that Y > X. Does that mean they would allow Dialpad though, I doubt it.
Well what exactly would you suggest I should have done?
Good to see updates of the code... it certainly puts the nail in the coffin the /. team is uncommitted to keeping the code current and that they just released unfinished code to appease the whiners.
Having taken a quick look at the posts with the threshold set to four I find it disturbing that all the posts are so one sided. In a commninity that prides itself on being open mided, there is clearly a closed mindset in view here.
/.tters will understand), as is any news that trashes some other country.
/.:
/. has a worldwide audience, and again, I apologise for those posters from other countries for making this an American-centric post. But it does seem that most of the anti-China sentiment comes from within the US.
I live in Hong Kong. I am Indian. I find it interesting to sometimes see how Americans are so unobjective when they read news. Any news that honours America is 'Insightful' (to put it in terms
There is a need for objectivity when we read news. If you just accept what you read without thinking about it then you are as bad as the people who write it. I know some Americans and while I recognise they may not be representative of the whole population, to them, the world ends at the American borders.
I know people who have been asked, "How long a drive away is Hong Kong?", or "Is Hong Kong in Vermont?", or "Do you speak Japanese?". Clearly, a wider teaching of things non-American should be put on the agenda in schools, as should critical thinking.
Now, how does this relate to this topic? I've seen posts that call China fascist. It is not. Posts that claim China does not allow private enterprises. It does - the big thing in the 1980's and early 1990's was privatisation of state-owned industries, and Deng Xiaoping set up special economic zones for foreigners to invest in China.
A need for research is apparent. Do not believe everything CNN tells you. BBC is far more objective than CNN, but I do admit its horrendously boring. CNN tells you one side of each story: the American side.
I study history in school, its taught me to discern and see what is reliable and what is not, what is a good source of information and what is not.
China is not an 'evil' state, as someone so ineloquently put it. It is a state with a different type of government. I can see myself that it has a bad rights record, and such, and it is plainly obvious that thats what all of you see too, the side that CNN likes to tell you guys about.
But what I think a lot of people in Asia see is that China has been advancing steadily since the days of Mao. It is developing as quickly as can be expected for a 1-billion person strong country. You cannot just give universal suffrage and expect people to vote cluefully. People need to be educated first. Some things, such as this issue at hand here of web censorship I think are wrong and I do not agree with. But, it does not mean that China is has a bad government.
To sum it up, this is my complaint about posters on
If America does something wrong: Yes its wrong, but we are the best nation in the world, and we are mostly right. Its OK for us to screw up sometimes.
If China does something wrong: Yes its wrong, we knew all along that China is a bunch of communist fascists with no morals. What does this change?
This view has got to change. I'm sorry for making it sound like all Americans do this. They don't. But by and large, most Americans do.
I'm getting 530 Too many users as well (and have been for a pretty long time). Could they be deliberately trying to stop people from getting their distribution? Like setting maxusers to 0 or something? :)
http://www.linuxone.net/misc/students.ht ml
Only one copy per student, and only the first 100 students to fill the form get it.
I was always under the impression that Norway did not do this kind of stuff. They seemed (do they still?) to have a very open stance on crypto and other such issues and have been rated highly by people who monitor 'internet rights' as I could no-so-eloquently put it.
This seems to be an about turn over what Norway has been doing in the past, which AFAIK has been almost nothing to regulate computer and internet use.
One wonders how much pressure the Norwegian Government has received to do this, if any at all, and if they have, then from who? The US Government? The MPAA?