I think some are forgetting that regardless of one's personal feelings about copyright. It exists due to a process from idea to implementation. A long history actually. Piracy enjoys no such process. No weighing of cause. No debate of measure. Truly something that's a product of the jungle.
Of course, thanks to the freewheeling Web, where there's always a workaround, sometimes Terrasson doesn't get paid anything for his music -- like the time in 2007, when he released Mirror, a solo piano recording. Within 24 hours, he says, people were downloading it for free from a Russian site that could not be shut down remotely.
And that's the problem there. That only applies to the 32 Gb or better model. The 8 Gb is really second generation, and Apple curiously doesn't have a 16 Gb flash model.
Of course since neither replier even made the effort to try. Here's the thing about the question. It gets to the heart of the debate. Any solution (if any) will run smack into it, regardless of if we're talking about others and what should be imposed, or ourselves and the same restrictions?
Buffet style insurance is a huge part of the problem. People don't see the costs of their health care, and they're accustomed to getting as much as they want (not need) for a set amount of money, much of which is paid "magically", "somehow" by their employer.
I see this around me all the time. Mind you, I am still young -31- and yet I can see the youngsters around me (and not only the youngsters, people of all ages seem to be affected) just don't care about anything or anyone anymore. I am not surprised by this either. Look at what great examples we have given this next generation. The lies about WMD, the lies about drugs, people telling you that is perfectly normal to own a gun, that it is normal to shoot at someone just for trespassing/burglary. That is cool to join the army and fuck up another sorry son of a bitch that you had absolutely no conflict with. We are teaching our children to be selfish...
And engage in illegal copyright infringement...oh wait!
I've pointed this out in another forum, but piracy is basically one big social experiment. Look and I mean really look at people's behaviors and what they're passing on. Doesn't really bode well does it?
"On the other hand, we have someone maybe possibly losing as much as a whopping 1-5% of profit on some idea they put down on paper (or whatever) and tried to sell."
Well I suppose in the land of trivialization it would be too much to ask you to actually back that up with something more substantial? And even if it was a trivial loss, are most working citizens of all stripes willing to tolerate a "trivial loss" in their earnings just so someone whom they have no connection with can pocket that "trivial" amount for themselves with little perceived effort? Please feel free to address this double standard and lets leave "because I hate them" at the door.
"I really wish people would stop treating IP like actual property. It's not. Actual property has the problem of scarcity."
I addressed this in a non-Slashdot forum. The original is scarce. This forum is open to debating that fact. The question that needs to be addressed regardless of if one believes IP to be property or not is how to take that unique original and distribute it to the most while propagating the conditions that allowed the original to be created in the first place? Right now mass piracy only addresses the copying and distribution and leaves the rest at best to vague hand-waving and empty promises.
"I pay for my media, but the reality is copyright no longer serves society as it was supposed too."
Ok, let's tackle this argument since it seems to be a common justification. What aspect of copyright is no longer serving society and how does mass copyright infringement reflect that? Term limits? Would society be served better by no limits at all? Fair use? How is society bettered by mass consumption of content in it's entirety, some even before released in general to the public? "No longer"? How does that time period correspond with the general availability of technology that makes perfect copies on a global scale? And really while we're on the subject how is copyright preventing pirates from getting their seeding content to begin with? In a perverse way it seems that copyright is indeed "serving" society the way pirates want it to serve. The open question is will that serve society overall for the best?
"The cost of creation is already set, the media and license to content has been purchased, so it shouldn't be extra to use what's already been paid for."
What people paid for was Bioshock, 2K delivered.
Now if people had paid $60+$5 and didn't get it an argument could be made.
Yes I remember the period. Just after the fear that was Y2K and the resulting infrastructure build-out the bubble brought. Then 9/11 and the bottom fell out of the economy and didn't really recover for several years.
"A person familiar with the legislative planning said the biometric data would likely be either fingerprints or a scan of the veins in the top of the hand. It would be required of all workers, including teenagers, but would be phased in, with current workers needing to obtain the card only when they next changed jobs, the person said. The card requirement also would be phased in among employers, beginning with industries that typically rely on illegal-immigrant labor.""
What about virtual companies and telecommuters were the notion of "illegal worker" doesn't really exist.
"Although the format change is a big part of this, the real change afoot is the amount of effort it takes to publish something. In the past, with the exception of self-publishing, the only way to get your work out there was to pitch your idea to a book publisher, who would then decide what was and was not print-worthy. Today, I can go to blogspot.com, sign up for an account, and spout off about anything I want, making it accessible for the world to see."
The only issue the publishing industry has to address is the quality issue. The quantity of Youtube shouldn't be equated with the quality of Youtube. If the publishing industry should worry about anything? That's their readership has possession of technology to break the whole reciprocal agreement that commerce is based upon. Changing the means by which content is delivered doesn't fundamentally change that fact.
Even better, Harrison can couple Skinput with a pico projector so that you can see a graphic interface on your arm and use the acoustic signals to control it.
Let's not forget it's competition is also newer TVs and Blu-Ray set-top boxes with app support built-in.
There's also to consider Google TV and what that'll produce.
I see you'll take "what is reading comprehension" for $500, Alex?
I think some are forgetting that regardless of one's personal feelings about copyright. It exists due to a process from idea to implementation. A long history actually. Piracy enjoys no such process. No weighing of cause. No debate of measure. Truly something that's a product of the jungle.
How do musical artists stay afloat in a dodgy economy?
Of course, thanks to the freewheeling Web, where there's always a workaround, sometimes Terrasson doesn't get paid anything for his music -- like the time in 2007, when he released Mirror, a solo piano recording. Within 24 hours, he says, people were downloading it for free from a Russian site that could not be shut down remotely.
And that's the problem there. That only applies to the 32 Gb or better model. The 8 Gb is really second generation, and Apple curiously doesn't have a 16 Gb flash model.
FACT: Your act of revenge hasn't actually harmed the company, and has provided political ammunition against those who pirate. Foot meet gun.
I would actually argue the opposite: piracy exists because of DRM.
Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
I'll tell you what, I'll let you answer that.
Of course since neither replier even made the effort to try. Here's the thing about the question. It gets to the heart of the debate. Any solution (if any) will run smack into it, regardless of if we're talking about others and what should be imposed, or ourselves and the same restrictions?
Buffet style insurance is a huge part of the problem. People don't see the costs of their health care, and they're accustomed to getting as much as they want (not need) for a set amount of money, much of which is paid "magically", "somehow" by their employer.
So what is the cost of a human life?
Shaft your customers enough and they'll switch to a different company.
/me Proceeds to sell all his stock in porn companies.
I see this around me all the time. Mind you, I am still young -31- and yet I can see the youngsters around me (and not only the youngsters, people of all ages seem to be affected) just don't care about anything or anyone anymore. I am not surprised by this either. Look at what great examples we have given this next generation. The lies about WMD, the lies about drugs, people telling you that is perfectly normal to own a gun, that it is normal to shoot at someone just for trespassing/burglary. That is cool to join the army and fuck up another sorry son of a bitch that you had absolutely no conflict with. We are teaching our children to be selfish...
And engage in illegal copyright infringement...oh wait!
The average USA small business will need to file about 600 every year.
Whew! The computer came along just in the nick of time.
He favors a new architecture, that he calls the 'stochastic processor,' which is designed to handle data corruption and error recovery gracefully.
I dub thee neuron.
Humble Bundle gives pirates what they want, gets ripped off
I've pointed this out in another forum, but piracy is basically one big social experiment. Look and I mean really look at people's behaviors and what they're passing on. Doesn't really bode well does it?
"On the other hand, we have someone maybe possibly losing as much as a whopping 1-5% of profit on some idea they put down on paper (or whatever) and tried to sell."
Well I suppose in the land of trivialization it would be too much to ask you to actually back that up with something more substantial? And even if it was a trivial loss, are most working citizens of all stripes willing to tolerate a "trivial loss" in their earnings just so someone whom they have no connection with can pocket that "trivial" amount for themselves with little perceived effort? Please feel free to address this double standard and lets leave "because I hate them" at the door.
"I really wish people would stop treating IP like actual property. It's not. Actual property has the problem of scarcity."
I addressed this in a non-Slashdot forum. The original is scarce. This forum is open to debating that fact. The question that needs to be addressed regardless of if one believes IP to be property or not is how to take that unique original and distribute it to the most while propagating the conditions that allowed the original to be created in the first place? Right now mass piracy only addresses the copying and distribution and leaves the rest at best to vague hand-waving and empty promises.
"I pay for my media, but the reality is copyright no longer serves society as it was supposed too."
Ok, let's tackle this argument since it seems to be a common justification. What aspect of copyright is no longer serving society and how does mass copyright infringement reflect that? Term limits? Would society be served better by no limits at all? Fair use? How is society bettered by mass consumption of content in it's entirety, some even before released in general to the public? "No longer"? How does that time period correspond with the general availability of technology that makes perfect copies on a global scale? And really while we're on the subject how is copyright preventing pirates from getting their seeding content to begin with? In a perverse way it seems that copyright is indeed "serving" society the way pirates want it to serve. The open question is will that serve society overall for the best?
"I haven't seen a document-management system yet that could handle this particular dichotomy."
WORM (Write Once, Read Many) fitted perfectly into what you described.
"History has shown that economic interdependence helps to foster peaceful, albeit sometimes tense, negotiations."
I'm not sure people have learned the lessons of the most recent "interdependence"? Just imagine the "stability" if it hadn't worked out?
"The only thing we need to worry about in this equation is religious nutbags that won't listen to reason."
Would economic nutbags be any better?
"The cost of creation is already set, the media and license to content has been purchased, so it shouldn't be extra to use what's already been paid for."
What people paid for was Bioshock, 2K delivered.
Now if people had paid $60+$5 and didn't get it an argument could be made.
Yes I remember the period. Just after the fear that was Y2K and the resulting infrastructure build-out the bubble brought. Then 9/11 and the bottom fell out of the economy and didn't really recover for several years.
"A person familiar with the legislative planning said the biometric data would likely be either fingerprints or a scan of the veins in the top of the hand. It would be required of all workers, including teenagers, but would be phased in, with current workers needing to obtain the card only when they next changed jobs, the person said. The card requirement also would be phased in among employers, beginning with industries that typically rely on illegal-immigrant labor.""
What about virtual companies and telecommuters were the notion of "illegal worker" doesn't really exist.
"Although the format change is a big part of this, the real change afoot is the amount of effort it takes to publish something. In the past, with the exception of self-publishing, the only way to get your work out there was to pitch your idea to a book publisher, who would then decide what was and was not print-worthy. Today, I can go to blogspot.com, sign up for an account, and spout off about anything I want, making it accessible for the world to see."
The only issue the publishing industry has to address is the quality issue. The quantity of Youtube shouldn't be equated with the quality of Youtube. If the publishing industry should worry about anything? That's their readership has possession of technology to break the whole reciprocal agreement that commerce is based upon. Changing the means by which content is delivered doesn't fundamentally change that fact.
Even better, Harrison can couple Skinput with a pico projector so that you can see a graphic interface on your arm and use the acoustic signals to control it.
Something like this. :)