Perhaps. But that doesn't really change what GP was saying, which is that if instead of thieves, the TSA was staffed with people doing it "for our own good", it'd be much, much worse.
Not all zip-loc bags are created equal. In my personal experience at least, "sandwich" bags tend to be really flimsy, while quart and gallon sized bags are quite a bit sturdier. I'll use quart-sized bags as ice packs, and as long as I didn't puncture the bag when dropping in the ice, I've never seen a leak.
Finally, a legitimate reason to require Amazon collect sales tax in Indiana. Real sick of all the "but the brick'n'morter stores have to" arguments. This isn't a new issue people. It's no different from a mail-order catalog.
Not so sure about that. I recently got a pre-paid Visa, and part of the documentation included with it said that if I wanted to use it online, I was required to register the card. But perhaps not all pre-paid cash cards are like that. And perhaps if I tried it without registering, it would have still worked.
I have multiple cards and could pay for ANYTHING with ANY of these cards.
Exactly. You have multiple cards. Or in other words, all your cards can be used to uniquely identify you. Not your spouse, your best friend, a co-worker, some random dude on the street. You.
Not to mention getting new cards are different numbers, so it is feasible to buy something and have a new card that night.
And some places allow you to request one-time numbers that can only be used at a particular place/time for a specific amount. But it would still link back to you.
Now all that said, I don't know what all Amazon could/would do. Could they call up Visa and ask "hey, I need the info of the person who had this number on this date"? Could they block future transactions with that number? If it was a one-time number, is there a way to block all one-time numbers that link back to the same base account?
And don't get me wrong, I can think of at least one method where watermarking based on form of payment would be futile (gift cards). But watermarking based on credit card used certainly isn't one of them, and would seem to be less futile than watermarking based on account.
You are talking about going into a store and trying to buy something, and the store refusing to accept your chosen method of payment. Both Bensam123 and the AC above them are talking about signing a contract for some loan/service, which does not stipulate valid/invalid forms of payment (or alternatively, stipulates that the loan/debt be repaid in Currency X, but does not exclude, for example, pennies), and then when it comes time to pay the bill, the one party suddenly trying to change the terms of the contract by disallowing you from paying the loan/debt in a manner that is perfectly valid per the contract.
Please note, I am not disagreeing with you. But I can easily imagine responses to your questions that have nothing to do with having something to hide.
Why do you have curtains?
To keep out the sun. Don't really care who looks in, but that sun, ick, makes things too bright/hot. You might see curtains as overkill, but sometimes you just wanna block out the sun completely.
Why do wear clothes?
I am not ashamed of my body, but it is cold out. Also, society tends to frown on people walking around nude, enough so that I'd likely end up arrested and maybe even registered as a sex offender.
Why don't you video your entire life and broadcast it online...?
Just because I don't care if someone else were to do it, doesn't mean I'm willing to put in the work to do it myself.
As I understood yesterday's article, it wasn't just "the person put up a blog" (which is what this one sounds like), but rather "the person put up a blog and sent emails / phone calls / what have you to shove everything the blogger talked about in the face of the other person".
It doesn't matter, they have set a precedent that is incredibly off-putting.
I agree. Wasn't trying to make it sound like I was saying "oh but it only happened once, they won't try it again." Was just curious if there have been any other instances of Sony removing functionality of a product after sale of said product.
True, but they didn't break into your house and replace your old PS2 with a slim, did they? Your old PS2 still worked the same as it did the day you bought it, right?
Sony seems to keep selling things that do something one day, then as if it was a game, take away features to make it less-usable then the previous day.
I dislike Sony as much as anyone else here, but OtherOS is the only thing I've seen like what you've just described. What other things have they taken away from products after purchase?
It's not going to hurt her where she is, and if it somehow offends you to hear a differing opinion, that's a problem with you, not with the person stating their opinion.
It's one thing to have a differing opinion, but quite another to express it in a location that is just socially unacceptable.
To take it to a bit of an extreme, it's not what the Westboro Baptist Church is shouting about so much as where they shout about it (at funerals).
"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
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Good idea. Until you run across sites that require your password to be exactly 8 digits.
Yes, you heard me right. Digits.
Perhaps. But that doesn't really change what GP was saying, which is that if instead of thieves, the TSA was staffed with people doing it "for our own good", it'd be much, much worse.
Ugh. I absolutely hate the "carrot and a stick" metaphor. Who wants a fucking carrot as a reward?
Wait, so you think that "the carrot or the stick" is metaphorically referring to a literal carrot?
The metaphor is "carrot on a stick"
Except that that is not a metaphor for "rewarding good behavior vs punishing bad behavior".
Not all zip-loc bags are created equal. In my personal experience at least, "sandwich" bags tend to be really flimsy, while quart and gallon sized bags are quite a bit sturdier. I'll use quart-sized bags as ice packs, and as long as I didn't puncture the bag when dropping in the ice, I've never seen a leak.
Finally, a legitimate reason to require Amazon collect sales tax in Indiana. Real sick of all the "but the brick'n'morter stores have to" arguments. This isn't a new issue people. It's no different from a mail-order catalog.
you have the freedome[sic] to install a current version of OpenOffice.org.
FTFY. Seriously, "go back to"? "Older version"? "TheGimp"?? It's almost as if you are intentionally trying to mislead people here.
I don't know.. that cat has a sort of "I'm only on here because someone off camera is in my way" look to it.
Not so sure about that. I recently got a pre-paid Visa, and part of the documentation included with it said that if I wanted to use it online, I was required to register the card. But perhaps not all pre-paid cash cards are like that. And perhaps if I tried it without registering, it would have still worked.
I have multiple cards and could pay for ANYTHING with ANY of these cards.
Exactly. You have multiple cards. Or in other words, all your cards can be used to uniquely identify you. Not your spouse, your best friend, a co-worker, some random dude on the street. You.
Not to mention getting new cards are different numbers, so it is feasible to buy something and have a new card that night.
And some places allow you to request one-time numbers that can only be used at a particular place/time for a specific amount. But it would still link back to you.
Now all that said, I don't know what all Amazon could/would do. Could they call up Visa and ask "hey, I need the info of the person who had this number on this date"? Could they block future transactions with that number? If it was a one-time number, is there a way to block all one-time numbers that link back to the same base account?
And don't get me wrong, I can think of at least one method where watermarking based on form of payment would be futile (gift cards). But watermarking based on credit card used certainly isn't one of them, and would seem to be less futile than watermarking based on account.
Doesn't help when it sounds like something the US government would do, even if it'd mean jack squat.
Forgive my ignorance, as I haven't, but.. wasn't that the moon?
You are talking about going into a store and trying to buy something, and the store refusing to accept your chosen method of payment. Both Bensam123 and the AC above them are talking about signing a contract for some loan/service, which does not stipulate valid/invalid forms of payment (or alternatively, stipulates that the loan/debt be repaid in Currency X, but does not exclude, for example, pennies), and then when it comes time to pay the bill, the one party suddenly trying to change the terms of the contract by disallowing you from paying the loan/debt in a manner that is perfectly valid per the contract.
Not to mention you'll need to sail out of US, intercept the drones, and then sail back to the US again.
Ah yes, the good old 51st state known as Japan. :P
Why do you have curtains?
To keep out the sun. Don't really care who looks in, but that sun, ick, makes things too bright/hot. You might see curtains as overkill, but sometimes you just wanna block out the sun completely.
Why do wear clothes?
I am not ashamed of my body, but it is cold out. Also, society tends to frown on people walking around nude, enough so that I'd likely end up arrested and maybe even registered as a sex offender.
Why don't you video your entire life and broadcast it online ...?
Just because I don't care if someone else were to do it, doesn't mean I'm willing to put in the work to do it myself.
As I understood yesterday's article, it wasn't just "the person put up a blog" (which is what this one sounds like), but rather "the person put up a blog and sent emails / phone calls / what have you to shove everything the blogger talked about in the face of the other person".
I take it you vote for cthulhu? By your logic [...]
Actually, GP's post implied no such thing. They could just as easily be voting for someone who is not a Demolican/Repubcrat.
You're just passively listening, not actively participating.
You're doing it wrong.
not sure what more could be learned from a living example?
Why, the most important piece of knowledge that can be learned.
What did it taste like?
It doesn't matter, they have set a precedent that is incredibly off-putting.
I agree. Wasn't trying to make it sound like I was saying "oh but it only happened once, they won't try it again." Was just curious if there have been any other instances of Sony removing functionality of a product after sale of said product.
True, but they didn't break into your house and replace your old PS2 with a slim, did they? Your old PS2 still worked the same as it did the day you bought it, right?
Sony seems to keep selling things that do something one day, then as if it was a game, take away features to make it less-usable then the previous day.
I dislike Sony as much as anyone else here, but OtherOS is the only thing I've seen like what you've just described. What other things have they taken away from products after purchase?
It also happens to be green
I don't care what Dr Seuss says, ham should not be green.
It's not going to hurt her where she is, and if it somehow offends you to hear a differing opinion, that's a problem with you, not with the person stating their opinion.
It's one thing to have a differing opinion, but quite another to express it in a location that is just socially unacceptable.
To take it to a bit of an extreme, it's not what the Westboro Baptist Church is shouting about so much as where they shout about it (at funerals).
"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
http://therewillbebrawl.com/episodes.php
It's a series of videos.