And for every idiot caught, there are unknown numbers who did the smart thing and sent it encrypted via some physical mail service, FTP, or any number of other methods that such searching does absolutely jack for.
So why, exactly, is it acceptable to toss out the 4th amendment when all we're doing is removing one of many easy methods of transferring data across the border?
So, how about if they sat on the couch, or used the bathroom?
I don't know about "seizing", but surely it could count as contaminating a crime scene?
No, seriously. Personally I'm not really sure why GP brought up the 4th amendment, as a defense lawyer would probably have a better chance at arguing that by "goofing off", the chain of evidence was broken, so any evidence gathered is suspect.
Hell, even the 3rd amendment would probably be easier to argue for than the 4th. But IANAL.
centralized music stores like iTunes don't use DRM anymore, [...] peer-to-peer networks could reemerge in the future as a viable, albeit protected, source of content
Is it just me, or are they trying to imply that iTunes is not a viable source of content because they got rid of the DRM?
I bet the politicians in Michigan would be thrilled to offer MS a brand-new building, taxfree status, and other benefits in order to hire their ~15% of unemployed citizens.
You seem to be assuming that the unemployed of Michigan are instantly interchangeable with the existing MS employees. Something tells me that that probably isn't the case for the majority of their employees. Looking at just code monkeys, does Michigan even have residents with the right skillsets? Nevermind the intimate knowledge needed in order to immediately jump into one of MS's projects. If MS were to move, it would probably be far more cost effective to pay for the relocation costs of the current employees, than to retrain new employees from scratch.
So then what you're saying is that while the guy may be innocent of being a scammer, he's still guilty of lying to creditors / the courts / the IRS? Is that really any better?
If Bob got more calls than other agents, wouldn't his percentages be higher? Or does a PHB calculate percentages differently than total # calls Bob took divided by total # calls?
Or something else I just thought of, would the PHB assume something like, the more calls Bob takes, the less likely it is that he is serving the customers properly?
That is odd, since I just successfully played some music in iTunes, that was purchased through iTunes, on a non-authorized machine. I'm hardly qualified to offer tech support, but I'd make sure you've got the latest version of iTunes.
You do realize that Apple dropped DRM from all of their music quite a while ago, right? So your whole point about "Apple making non-DRMd music less convenient than Apple's DRMd music" is complete nonsense. Or did they add it back when I wasn't looking?
I wonder how secure the Internet connections owned by the members of the French National Assembly are. Maybe a tracker could be set up on Sarkozy's Minitel terminal.
Considering that the French president has apparently gotten off scott-free for actual copyright infringement (I say apparently because I've not heard anything about the infringement since that story in 2008), I suspect it doesn't matter how secure or insecure it is, nothing would happen.
Age has nothing to do with it. I believe purledinoz's point was that grandma probably isn't the one who configured the router.
In the spirit of providing a car analogy, if a dealership sells you a car as being street-legal, and a police officer later pulls you over about some aftermarket street-illegal modifications that were already present prior to the sale, why should you be thrown in jail for it?
And how exactly does my killing myself because I didn't wear a seatbelt increase your insurance premiums? Don't get me wrong, I support seatbelt usage, I just don't believe it's the government's business that an adult driver or passenger isn't wearing one.
Unless they put it in terms such as "by not wearing a seatbelt you risk becoming a projectile which could injure other people". Then yeah, I can agree that the government should mandate seatbelt usage. But I don't believe they use that reason.
it's a shame to see movie studios ripping the ideas off and passing them off as their own
<morbo>SANE COPYRIGHT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!</morbo>
*cough* anyway... if this was in the public domain like it should be, while the movie studios could make their own movies about Middle Earth and no one would be able to stop them, that doesn't somehow give them the right to pass the story off as their own, and anyone else could also make their own movie about Middle Earth and there'd be jack-all that the movie studios could do to prevent it.
Ownership of a story in the public domain doesn't magically transfer to whoever makes the movie first.
*remembers all those patents about "doing X... on the internet"*
Er, on second thought, maybe it could (though it certainly shouldn't).
While obvious troll is obvious (GP, not the AC I'm responding to), it's important to always remember (and remind others) that it's never been about allowing all other religions to believe what they want while persecuting just Scientology for its beliefs, but rather has always been about Scientology's tactics towards members, former members, and anyone else who opposes such tactics.
Last I'd heard, the only CD-Rs that had the tax applied were ones that were specifically labeled as music CD-Rs, so something like this. CD-Rs like this didn't have it.
But that was years ago so things may have changed since then.
Erm, huh? I'm confused. Near as I can tell from the Wikipedia article, the medium wave AM range is what my car radio picks up, but I'm fairly certain that my car's antenna is not 144 feet long. Did I misunderstand something?
When bookstores got in trouble selling Harry Potter books a day early, could you imagine them hiring goons to break into your house and revoke your copies
Not defending the practice of cutting off pig tails as a solution to the symptom of a greater problem, but do baby boys receive anesthesia when being circumcised?
No, seriously, do they? Because I have no idea, so my point could actually have no bearing.
Also, the amount of penis you can show and still keep an R rating is much much lower than the amount of breasts/vaginas you can show within an R rating.
I forget where I heard this, I think it was in one of the Indie Sex films.
Not necessarily. There once was a time in the dark/middle ages I think when the only drinkable liquid had alcohol in it, because the alcohol killed off all the harmful crap that existed in the water.
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And for every idiot caught, there are unknown numbers who did the smart thing and sent it encrypted via some physical mail service, FTP, or any number of other methods that such searching does absolutely jack for.
So why, exactly, is it acceptable to toss out the 4th amendment when all we're doing is removing one of many easy methods of transferring data across the border?
So, how about if they sat on the couch, or used the bathroom?
I don't know about "seizing", but surely it could count as contaminating a crime scene?
No, seriously. Personally I'm not really sure why GP brought up the 4th amendment, as a defense lawyer would probably have a better chance at arguing that by "goofing off", the chain of evidence was broken, so any evidence gathered is suspect.
Hell, even the 3rd amendment would probably be easier to argue for than the 4th. But IANAL.
Displaying the confederate flag doesn't generally imply a threat of violence.
Maybe not to you...
centralized music stores like iTunes don't use DRM anymore, [...] peer-to-peer networks could reemerge in the future as a viable, albeit protected, source of content
Is it just me, or are they trying to imply that iTunes is not a viable source of content because they got rid of the DRM?
I bet the politicians in Michigan would be thrilled to offer MS a brand-new building, taxfree status, and other benefits in order to hire their ~15% of unemployed citizens.
You seem to be assuming that the unemployed of Michigan are instantly interchangeable with the existing MS employees. Something tells me that that probably isn't the case for the majority of their employees. Looking at just code monkeys, does Michigan even have residents with the right skillsets? Nevermind the intimate knowledge needed in order to immediately jump into one of MS's projects. If MS were to move, it would probably be far more cost effective to pay for the relocation costs of the current employees, than to retrain new employees from scratch.
So then what you're saying is that while the guy may be innocent of being a scammer, he's still guilty of lying to creditors / the courts / the IRS? Is that really any better?
Sounds like Kirby's looking for a little bit more of the pie he helped bake.
Didn't even RTFT, eh? :P
If Bob got more calls than other agents, wouldn't his percentages be higher? Or does a PHB calculate percentages differently than total # calls Bob took divided by total # calls?
Or something else I just thought of, would the PHB assume something like, the more calls Bob takes, the less likely it is that he is serving the customers properly?
That is odd, since I just successfully played some music in iTunes, that was purchased through iTunes, on a non-authorized machine. I'm hardly qualified to offer tech support, but I'd make sure you've got the latest version of iTunes.
If you are implying that #F4200NUM0001 contains a Star Trek reference, I'm afraid I don't get it.
You do realize that Apple dropped DRM from all of their music quite a while ago, right? So your whole point about "Apple making non-DRMd music less convenient than Apple's DRMd music" is complete nonsense. Or did they add it back when I wasn't looking?
I wonder how secure the Internet connections owned by the members of the French National Assembly are. Maybe a tracker could be set up on Sarkozy's Minitel terminal.
Considering that the French president has apparently gotten off scott-free for actual copyright infringement (I say apparently because I've not heard anything about the infringement since that story in 2008), I suspect it doesn't matter how secure or insecure it is, nothing would happen.
Age has nothing to do with it. I believe purledinoz's point was that grandma probably isn't the one who configured the router.
In the spirit of providing a car analogy, if a dealership sells you a car as being street-legal, and a police officer later pulls you over about some aftermarket street-illegal modifications that were already present prior to the sale, why should you be thrown in jail for it?
And how exactly does my killing myself because I didn't wear a seatbelt increase your insurance premiums? Don't get me wrong, I support seatbelt usage, I just don't believe it's the government's business that an adult driver or passenger isn't wearing one.
Unless they put it in terms such as "by not wearing a seatbelt you risk becoming a projectile which could injure other people". Then yeah, I can agree that the government should mandate seatbelt usage. But I don't believe they use that reason.
it's a shame to see movie studios ripping the ideas off and passing them off as their own
<morbo>SANE COPYRIGHT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!</morbo>
*cough* anyway... if this was in the public domain like it should be, while the movie studios could make their own movies about Middle Earth and no one would be able to stop them, that doesn't somehow give them the right to pass the story off as their own, and anyone else could also make their own movie about Middle Earth and there'd be jack-all that the movie studios could do to prevent it.
Ownership of a story in the public domain doesn't magically transfer to whoever makes the movie first.
*remembers all those patents about "doing X... on the internet"*
Er, on second thought, maybe it could (though it certainly shouldn't).
Mod parent up.
While obvious troll is obvious (GP, not the AC I'm responding to), it's important to always remember (and remind others) that it's never been about allowing all other religions to believe what they want while persecuting just Scientology for its beliefs, but rather has always been about Scientology's tactics towards members, former members, and anyone else who opposes such tactics.
Last I'd heard, the only CD-Rs that had the tax applied were ones that were specifically labeled as music CD-Rs, so something like this. CD-Rs like this didn't have it.
But that was years ago so things may have changed since then.
You must be new here.
Or, judging by your name, I just fed a troll. At any rate, it should still be useful to anyone who really hadn't heard what GP is referring to.
Erm, huh? I'm confused. Near as I can tell from the Wikipedia article, the medium wave AM range is what my car radio picks up, but I'm fairly certain that my car's antenna is not 144 feet long. Did I misunderstand something?
When bookstores got in trouble selling Harry Potter books a day early, could you imagine them hiring goons to break into your house and revoke your copies
Why yes, yes I can.
(or at least a step in that direction).
Being aware that you are going to die and having a fear of death is two different things.
Not defending the practice of cutting off pig tails as a solution to the symptom of a greater problem, but do baby boys receive anesthesia when being circumcised?
No, seriously, do they? Because I have no idea, so my point could actually have no bearing.
Also, the amount of penis you can show and still keep an R rating is much much lower than the amount of breasts/vaginas you can show within an R rating.
I forget where I heard this, I think it was in one of the Indie Sex films.
I'd think it'd make a huge difference, especially for the attractive lady in the passenger side seat.
Not necessarily. There once was a time in the dark/middle ages I think when the only drinkable liquid had alcohol in it, because the alcohol killed off all the harmful crap that existed in the water.