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Attractive Women Make Men Temporarily Stupid
Ponca City, We love you writes "The Telegraph reports that men who spend even a few minutes in the company of an attractive woman perform less well in tests designed to measure brain function than those who chat to someone they do not find attractive. This leads to speculation that men use up so much of their brain function or 'cognitive resources' trying to impress beautiful women, they have little left for other tasks. Psychologists at Radboud University in The Netherlands carried out the study after one of them was so struck on impressing an attractive woman he had never met before, that he could not remember his address when she asked him where he lived. Researchers recruited 40 male heterosexual students and had each one perform a standard memory test. The volunteers then spent seven minutes chatting to male or female members of the research team before repeating the test. The results showed that men were slower and less accurate after trying to impress the women. The more they fancied them, the worse their score."
The blood rushes from one head to the other head.
I could have told you that.
It's embarrassing is what it is, to be turned into a drooling moron and then realise later just how stupid you sounded.
To be or no to be, that is the question.
*attractive woman walks by*
SHITCOCK!
It takes a while for blood to get back to the brain.
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I BSOD all time, where BSOD is Blank Stare Of Desire.
And yes, I need a reboot to come back
This story is worthless without pics!!!
I'm so glad we have researchers around to tell us what we already know.
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What is this "attractive woman" device you speak of?
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It's not true love if you recover from it.
scientific proof, in colour and with close ups of the offending body parts...
... men who spend even a few minutes in the company of an attractive woman perform less well in tests ...
In other news, posters who don't spend even a few minutes re-reading their posts tend to have POORER grammar.
Why not give the memory test during the chatting session to see what happens to cognitive function then? I'd be interested to see if men make the same number of mistakes if the test somehow ties into the whole 'impressing women' deal. Then again, I'd be interested to see how the women do in the same situation. I know a lot of women who dumb themselves down in the presence of a man they're interested in because they believe that men are intimidated by smart women.
The obvious sudden mental incapacitation is all that is required to confirm that the lady at hand has achieved her desired effect. You must be able to recover quickly. After the initial contact, it rapidly ceases to be desirable response.
a beautiful mathematician like Danica McKellar. Dang men are lucky we get anything done at all!
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How about the even more simple explanation of just being distracted by the beautiful woman and imagining her naked with her legs wrapped around you is taking up all of your resources? "Trying to impress" doesn't need to come into it at all (and likely doesn't because usually having your mind so completely occupied that you become a dumbass doesn't really impress people), and seems like a stretch of a conclusion to come up with. Far more likely that thought of sex have simply completely taken over the brain and body, as they so often do..
Like the old joke says, men have a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to operate one at a time. ;)
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Theres a song, by the Skatellites.
Obviously this now has a scientific basis:
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall.
As soon as he marries her
Then she starts to do
The things that will break his heart.
But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You'll be happy for the rest of your life,
An ugly woman cooks her meals on time,
She'll always give you peace of mind.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
Don't let your friends say
You have no taste,
Go ahead and marry anyway,
Though her face is ugly,
Her eyes don't match,
Take it from me she's a better catch.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
Say man.
Hey baby.
Saw your wife the other day.
Yeah?
Yeah, she's ugly.
Yeah, she's ugly but she sure can cook.
Yeah?. Okay.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
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Researchers recruited 40 male heterosexual students and had each one perform a standard memory test.
I have to wonder why the researchers didn't expand this theory to include homosexuals, bisexuals, or asexuals -- before publishing results claiming every man out there can be rendered temporarily stupid by an attractive woman. I smell a rat -- had they done this and the results turned out differently, they'd have to explain why this effect only happens to heterosexual men, or they'd have evidence of a neurological basis for attraction that isn't tied to gender. Neither conclusion would make them popular with the people funding the study. I don't know what this is, but it isn't science -- at least not the kind I grew up with.
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Smarter no, just having an iphone should negate the effect of that app.
What I need to do is look richer, remeber that old bald guy + late model Beemer = attractive lady in passenger side seat.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
I've got 2 exes who demonstrate the effect on this male lingered for years before wearing off...
Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies...
Because I have no reason to be dumb. /cry
And I was hoping for a big discussion on our election rights being stripped away, but this is how it ends. At the "hands" of a story about "Attractive Women Make Men Temporarily Stupid". Ponca City, We love you, I can't say how much I hate you.
Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.
Now there is a concrete argument for gender segregation of boys and girls in school.... I wonder how women react around rich men?
A BMW car is a "Bimmer" and a BMW motorcycle is a "Beemer".
Now you know.
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James Bond's adversaries have known this for years. They didn't send a chubby dude in poison lipstick to meet him.
I could have told you that.
It's embarrassing is what it is, to be turned into a drooling moron and then realise later just how stupid you sounded.
Anecdote is not, nor ever will be, the singular of "data". Sure, everyone may know this. Sure, the outcome may seem obvious to everyone. However, it is not empirical fact until it is studied and established as such. How many common sense "truths" have turned out to be not so true when properly analyzed over the history of human scientific endeavor? In the case of this study, anecdote and assumption about human behavior has now become data, and can be used as such in psychology and sociology to continue to study and describe how and why we are the way we are.
Now that we have established the phenomenon (doot dooo do-do-doot) as data, perhaps we can look into the actual physiological mechanisms which control it.
I would think that above all else, the type of people who read a "news for nerds" site would appreciate research for research sake. :-/
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I think Southern women are the sexiest in the world!
NOT ALL MEN are sensors, concerned primarily with the "look" and image of beauty that is socially defined as "attractive". Most are, but not all. This social, media driven image of one beauty for women is a big social myth that even if not true for some men, most all men learn that this one, social image is the "normal" for attractive, so they mimic the behaviors of other men.
FTA: "'We conclude men's cognitive functioning may temporarily decline after an interaction with an attractive woman.'"
More accurately, they could say: "conclude MANY men's cognitive functioning".
Jung developed and published models of cognition in the early 1900s that explain directly the different means by which people (men and women) collect information and make judgments. These models are not scientific (yet), but rather observational classification. They have been re-used and rediscovered multiple times under many different names for decades. It is really frustrating to read professional scientists doing funded social research that blurs the lines and causes confusion about these issues in the lay public. While I do not dispute their results, the point is that there are observational models that show that these results do not apply to all men, and these models can reproducibly predict (in some people) which men it would apply to.
It will be such a huge leap forward for humanity when there is reproducible scientific evidence and measurement techniques to back up Jung's neural models so that social researchers can segment the population intelligently for this kind of social research.
The supervisor of the exam in theoretical physics was not ugly enough. I want to get the same chances as the female co-students.
This year's IgNobel Prize in Biology that is.
All this study proves is that hot chicks are way cooler than a test, who the fuck wants to look at stupid paper when theres some nice ass up in the room. WOW! who would have known?
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They're testing the wrong head.
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Man, I'm in the wrong business.
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Instead of just going for the obvious conclusion, they should have tested with gay men talking to attractive men and lesbians talking to attractive women. Then the results might be something to talk about, rather than a statement of the obvious.
Attractive women discovered this 40,000 years ago
Did they measure blood flow? Because all that blood going to the penis has got to come from somewhere.
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CORRECTION: This story is worthless.
Another story: Men were given a huge meal of food they love. After eating, they did less well on tests.
Even more: Men were subjected to adversarial behavior from women who were being seductive, but had no interest in the men. The men responded with confusion, and later did less well on tests.
The first thing I thought when I read this article was: "wait, how'd they get hot girls in their lab?"
Then I realized it was a psychology group, not engineering like I'm used to.
are therefore permanently stupid. Just ask the wife.
Ibid.
I am going to be redundant here, but this is not news. It is, however, perfect fare for the "The Telegraph."
Any male, twenty or over and somewhat attractive, who has ever had to spend time around high school girls can tell you that they get just as stupid around guys they think are hot. We just don't notice when it's women our age 'cause we're too busy trying to think of how we can get in their pants, the same as they are.
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Rather than having used up all of their mental energy thinking of ways to impress the women, maybe the men while they were taking the test, instead, were more occupied with fantasizing and mentally reviewing their conversations with the women.
An interesting follow-up might be to see if men that identify themselves as being in a "happy relationship" perform as poorly as their single counterparts. Does the brain turn off this mechanism, or at least reduce it, if you're not really looking for someone, or are guys ever looking to upgrade?
..right.And we needed a study to realize that huh?In other news,water is wet.
There's no patch for stupidity
Sounds like I'd like to meet the research team. At least some of them, anyway. You know, to do a little research.
A lot less than for an app which makes me look like Brad Pitt in front of attractive women. Got one of those?
And nobody cares. Seriously, what difference does it make?
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
At least the political class can pick this up, segregate schools based on gender and proclaim a triumph in education reform
Nancy Wilson still makes me stupid, then!
Is this proof that women don't belong in the workplace?
This leads to speculation that men use up so much of their brain function or 'cognitive resources' trying to impress beautiful women, they have little left for other tasks.
From my own experiences, I don't think it has much to do with trying to impress beautiful women. Rather, I seem to slip into a day-dream like state that requires a shock to the system to snap out of. Telephone poles work rather well.
My assumption has always been that it is a hormonal thing. It would be interesting to measure blood flow and hormone levels in the brain during these tests. However, I'd guess that being attached to a bunch of wires might change the outcome.
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Psychologists at Radboud University in The Netherlands carried out the study after one of them was so struck on impressing an attractive woman he had never met before, that he could not remember his address when she asked him where he lived.
Its not that he forgot. He was trying to figure out a way to say, "In my mom's basement" and still seem cool.
Have gnu, will travel.
A BMW car is a "Bimmer" and a BMW motorcycle is a "Beemer".
Cite an authoritative source for this yuppie self-glorifying bullshit or STFU.
BMW and Harley owners are just pussies who can't think for themselves, so they make the "safe" buy.
Crimeny, women have made me stupid for decades. When does it get better?
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what kind of loser goes around caring what women think and trying to impress them?
BMW and Harley owners are just pussies who can't think for themselves, so they make the "safe" buy.
It may be true, but try saying that to your local hells chapter.
If an attractive woman approaches a /.er does he become stupid? (O.k. exclude the obvious Apple fanboys, because I'm not sure if an attractive guy just make those guys stupid or if they just stay gay.) Now, does he have the ability to access /. afterwards? If he has sex with her, does he lose his account?
If he has a 4 digit ID, does that mean he is immune, or just repulsive to attractive women?
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After all the comments here "Why is someone being paid to do this", "This is lame" and so on, I think this research is brilliant. Next time I say something stupid to my girlfriend, or make a dumb choice I now have an excuse and a way to butter her up in one go!
those are the 1%ers. Isn't the typical harley buyer a dentist or accountant?
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
I don't know. I'm just sayin' that most people who buy harleys that I know are in clubs that require harleys. Smart people buy dependable bikes (not-harley).
is to pursue a career in computing which guarantees zero opportunities for this phenomena to occur
This explains why the average Slashdotter is so smart. They found the best solution to this problem: stay away from women, however beautiful they may be, altogether!
The next time someone gives you crap for living in voluntary solitary confinement in your mom's basement, at least you'll know you're making the smart choice.
I'd rather you rationally disagree than irrationally agree.
> The results showed that men were slower and less accurate after trying to impress the women. The more they fancied them, the worse their score.
;-)
All right. Now try it with magazines about hobbies. I'm sure the more a guy has an interest in the hobby that magazine is about, the slower/less accurate they will be in a test about other things afterwards. I.e., this is just a test about preoccupation about some interest. Women are hardwired into most men's brains, so that almost always works. Also, isn't beauty largely about certain symmetries? I had a discussion about this a while back in relation to something else I won't go into, and in which I assumed that seeing someone beautiful takes more brain power (because your brain is trying to find asymmetries, quick with someone not so beautiful, takes longer to find the imperfections in more beautiful people). This would explain also in a non-sexual way the more preoccupation a man has with more beautiful women.
I concur with the poor research statement somebody else made. This is useless 'research'. Then again, just about any research I've seen in such areas, psychology etc. are junk and/or trivial. At least, that's what they look like to me
One time, a group of us guys were at the grocery store buying some beer. I was having a conversation with one of my friends at the checkout counter as I saw a really, really, hot girl. My eyes were attached to her and couldn't let go. I was able to keep up with the conversation despite not looking at my friend.
He then asked "Are you really paying attention or are you just looking at that hot chick?"
I replied, "No, I'm paying attention. I'm like a dual-core processor. One is for our conversation and the other is right now on the girl"
Then my other friend said, "I am dual-core as well. But both cores are hung on that girl. "
All my coworkers must be bisexuals with low standards.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Ignorance is bliss.
And even better: "Attractive" does not necessarily mean "good looking". It means being something interesting and exciting, like some sparkling stuff. And then catching them with the "bubble of love" that they can't exit, where they even forget that their friends ever existed. ;))
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
A followup study shows that the smarter the male is, the more impaired his brain function becomes when conversing with an attractive woman. The researches recruited 40 slashdotters and 40 normal males; the results indicated that the slashdotter group would more often than not confuse simple words and meanings with organs on the female body. While researches are still speculating, they believe this may be due to the average slashdotter's lack of experience.
locational, we call the cars beamers.
BMW is one of the most reliable bikes on the planet, second to Royal Enfield. From what i can tell, you insult harley and bmw because you cant afford either. That or you owned an AMC harley, and that doesn't count. They just sucked.
Can we now see the correlation between a woman's breast size and a man's I.Q.?
I guess big breasts are all the rage, but frankly, I don't see the need for anything bigger than a B. I guess evolution has led us to believe that a woman with larger breasts is more capable of feeding babies, but with our modern diets, that is not really an issue, and since many bottle feed anyway, it is even less. Sure they're fun to play with, but I don't really want a woman with too much breast.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Could women possibly misinterperate general lower mental function as being a response to their attractivness rather than the fact the guy is a stupid jerk, thus overestimating the intellegence of a potential mate, explaining finally why all the dumb a-holes out there get the hot girls before we do?
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
Sorry, but this whole song stems from the basic socially conditioned fallacy that you would have less value than that "pretty girl".
I ask you to *completely forgot that*. You are on the very same level as that pretty girl!
Were you ever to a place, where there were so many pretty girls that you your eyes popped out, and your jaw dropped onto the floor?
Did you notice, that after some time, they just become normal? Like "Oh, she's ok, but not *that* great.".
That's all there is to it: It's just conditioning!
And this is why, when you just assume equal value, you can make the prettiest girl want *you*! Who do you think she will want to talk to: The thousand guys who beg her to just look at them, or the one guy who is just normal to her? (She will think that you are just used to such pretty girls. And for a reason. ^^)
Conclusion: I will marry a pretty girl! Because I'm just as pretty! Period. :)
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Localisations, here in AU they are all called Beamers or Beemers as no-one owns a BMW motorcycle here.
Nothing against Beemer bikes mind you, they are just too expensive compared to American and Japanese cycles.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
but I'm sure you can find it on 8-track.
Kill all beautiful women! Oh wait does that count?
Duh.
Maybe beautiful women just make the stupid psychological tests seem less important by comparison.
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I must say, I'm a big fan of the Royal Enfields. Any bike that can be repaired by an illiterate indian village blacksmith using nothing but a hammer and a hacksaw is +1 win in my books.
:)
There was a cool Enfield trick that we learned last time we were in India; if you can't start your bike on a cold dewy morning, just take out the spark plug, pour a little bit of petrol into the chamber, put spark plug back in, and bang, it starts first kick
The guy who taught it to us used the same trick in the Israeli Defence Force to start tanks in the desert.
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Hey guys,
You might want to study whether the sun is bright or if the sky is blue.
FWIW I'm not sure that it's always "if you're trying to impress them" or even due to sexual urges - I know there have been times when I've been introduced to some exceptionally attractive woman, and it's like my mind has just shut off (and no, I don't mean that something else has switched on!). It's as if she has this thought dampening field and I'm stuck in it, just based on proximity and the fact that she's paying some level of attention to me.
But of course that's never happened since I've been married, because I don't even notice other women... right honey?
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Both genders are equally susceptible to the effects of hormones overriding their more rational thought processes. Our limbic system, (limbic I've recently been told is now a deprecated term to describe to describe our motivational systems) flush our more rational processes. What has become more apparent is that our wet core is necessary to our rational decision making no matter how we might like it to be otherwise. Women are just as hormonally driven as men and the study, perhaps unintentionally, perpetuates gender stereotyping and myth making that suggests the horned, male ego is pushing the agenda. It's a mark of cultivation and high intelligence that our libido can't cloud our objectivity. The female psyche may not be the eternal mystery to men that our mythology suggests although there are deep distinctive traits. I've been married and, if you count co-habitations as periods of 6 months or longer, then I've lived with 7 women. Although women, as a (stereo) type, might not count 6 months as a long term cohabitation and might just see it as typical of the male willingness to say anything and do anything just to get laid 2 or 3 times a day. In my experience, if emotions engendered by attractive, potential sex partners can inhibit our higher reasoning faculty, then emotions and drugs are devastating. Personally I've found the drunker I get the more attractive women find me. This effect is more pronounced if I'm alone on a bar stool and two or more attractive women are near by. Inevitably, as I nurse one drink after another, and glance their way, sooner or later, one or more return my interested looks and an uncontrolled giggle will escape. That's when I know they're attracted to me. Of course that kind of attention from beautiful women is unsettling and I usually down a few more quick drinks just to put things in perspective. It's then they can't seem to stop staring at me, and, just about then, the giggling stops and things get serious. I'm pretty sure their upset looks reflect a conflict among them as to which one will leave with me. Although I've never been able to verify my guess because about then one or all of them will ask the bartender to see me out. I take this as a consensus on their part that if one of them can't have me then, in the name of friendship, they'll jointly and severally forego my company. I usually leave peacefully not wanting to destroy any close friendships.
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It would be interesting to get an MRI and see exactly what part of the brain is active at that time. Most likely the Preoptic Area of the Hypothalamus which is twice as large in men than in women. Also I remember reading somewhere that the way the male brain is able to perform better on focused tasks is by switching off the parts of it not related to what it is currently doing. This could be the explanation.
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I go to lots of conferences where supposedly there are lots of brilliant men. But, when I meet them, they are just as stupid as the rest of the guys.
If you must moderate, please moderate as irrelevent, not something bad, because I'm sure someone will find this interest
Wow, you're just another idiot who knows nothing about cars.
For alot of people, it might be about brand. For me, it's about performance. It's about comfort. It's about everything else. I own a Ford Mustang, but lust after 08+ BMW M3's. It's what I wish I could drive if I could afford it. And honestly, I would be on the fence about purchasing one if I COULD afford it, because of typical ignorant car-illiterates who will label me as a poser or as anyone who gives two shits about brand. It's a damn shame. If I could buy a BMW M-series rebadged as a Ford or Hyundai for another $5000 premium, I'd buy it any day.
I object to the suggestion that only men (and all men, at that) are attracted to women.
... the sun rises in the east and the Pope is Catholic.
Have these reporters never been to or heard of a strip club? Isn't this the business plan?
trying to impress beautiful women, they have little left for other tasks.
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Let's just say my brain function wasn't used to impress her. More like my visual cortex was occupied from 40% normal usage to 90%.
This is the same the other way around as well. Women will do crazy things when attracted to a male (i.e. put foil in my microwave or fall down when getting out of the car).
Clearly this study was made for the sole purpose of that scientist saying "that he could not remember his address when she asked him where he lived" on the internet. Like, an attractive woman would ever ask a scientist where he lives? Nonsense.
Not quite true - I've seen a fair few BMWs in Canberra. My brother even owned one for a while (until his girlfriend). I said he should have dropped her in return. Alas, he married her instead, sold his bikes and now works a job he hates to pay for her.
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See honey, that is why I don't do any house work!
If you wait a few year , time will catch you, and men will start to be more and more intellectual beast. That is until they start to speak to your attractive daughter.
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They were all thinking with the wrong head.
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Royal Enfield isn't "reliable" so much as "utterly unchanged". They haven't dusted that marque since the British left India.
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Yeah, what was the car ad in that old Dudley Moore movie "Jaguar-for men who want handjobs from strange women" or something like that? Anyway I bet the reason this is is because we guys are too busy trying not to trip over our own feet and trying not look like a doofus to have any braincells left over for complex apps.
I know that when I first met my GF trying to talk her through a PC problem was an exercise in futility, as i just didn't have enough spare brain capacity to not trip over my own tongue PLUS keep the steps to fix the problem in my head PLUS translate tech speak into a language that she could understand. Now that we have been going out for awhile I don't have that problem anymore, except for her telling me occasionally "translation Mr Spock, because I don't think that last bit was actually English". Girls don't have that problem because they have more choices. Like that old joke "All girls are psychic because they know before the date even starts whether or not you are gonna get laid". The finer the girl, the more picky she can be, therefor the more laid back she can be when dealing with us.
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I'd think it'd make a huge difference, especially for the attractive lady in the passenger side seat.
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Although I've never been able to verify my guess because about then one or all of them will ask the bartender to see me out. I take this as a consensus on their part that if one of them can't have me then, in the name of friendship, they'll jointly and severally forego my company. I usually leave peacefully not wanting to destroy any close friendships.
Reminds me of this football dude I once knew who, stoned on LSD at a party and having achieved a high state of paranoia, picked up the host by his collar, slammed him against a wall and bellowed at him, "I bet you've got hidden cameras trying to film me while I take a piss! You sick fuck!" --Then while telling this story, he turned to me and added, "And when I said that, I could tell he was SCARED. That's how I knew I was right about the cameras!"
Priceless!
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That is why there is funding for study like this... keep more PhD students.
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Durrr... sorry to double comment on the same post, but I wanted to address this.
Some things count as so obvious as to not require scientific inquiry. Hot women give get males wood. You don't need
to publish this to claim it, end of story.
Yes, and for centuries it was so obvious that no scientific scrutiny was required that the sun went around the earth, not the other way around. It was also completely obvious that a heavier object would fall faster than a lighter object. It was also obvious that things would get cold because the cold of the surroundings would flow into them. It was also so obvious that time passes at a constant rate, regardless of our perceptions and reference frames. It was also so obvious that humans are the only organisms to experience emotion and pain.
Obviously there are a great many things that are so obvious as to not require scientific inquiry.
Point being, a great many things are so obvious. A great many of those obvious things also turn out to be correct in light of empirical data. However, we are not allowed to treat those scientifically and draw scientific conclusions from them until they are established as empirical data. This is one of the fundamental requirements for science, and I would think people on a "news for nerds" site would get that. Taking the obvious for granted as true is exactly the kind of mentality that brings about pseudoscience. Science requires empiricism, even for the bleedingly obvious.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
There got be an iPhone app for that! Wait, actually I had started to spec one...
That is a tremendously appropriate response for a geek. But as a rule, we must observe genuine girl-people in the wild if we are to trust our data. They're similar to people, but they're generally softer, shaped differently and their heads are rather oddly wired. Image resolution is actually much better with a non virtual contact.
(Please, oh FSM, please do not let this fall into the hands of my wife and daughters...)
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The psych students who came up with the idea for this study are fricking geniuses :-)
I've seen a fair few BMWs in Canberra
Not amongst the upper echelon, surely! A non-Australian product in the hands of the pollies? That's as disgraceful as an "I don't know" during Question Time.
Of course few of us actually admit that Holden is really based in Detroit, or Ford in Dearborn across the pond, or that the Epica is a Daewoo, or...
Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
I like your mention of Royal Enfield. I used to have a 1928 "thumper" many years ago (among many other British classics), and I would still take one over a Harley any day. Lucky they're still being manufactured (in India now) - I guess they must have pretty much the longest pedigree (almost 120 years) of any motorcycle by now...
I'm suddenly sad men everywhere have intelligent conversations with me...
Alas, he married her instead, sold his bikes and now works a job he hates to pay for her.
;-)
Shit, I hate these sad stories, they always make me cry.
A lot less than for an app which makes me look like Brad Pitt in front of attractive women.
Yes, but you could argue that he's pretty stupid too. After all, remember that he called his daughter Shiloh.
Shiloh Pitt. Well, hello? (headsmack)
It's probably because I come from a blue collar family and have always had that kind of job. But, most of the Harley owners that you see riding around aren't dentists or accountants. I doubt most of them could handle much of the Sturgis crowd.
I've seen many cases of women behaving like complete idiots when in the presence of a complete lout.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Obvious AC hasn't ever taken a BMW motorcycle out for a ride before. :D
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
I didn't read the article (of course), but this is understandable, considering how geishas in Japan are designed to illicit this effect, and is the main reason why (hot) women work well as accomplices/ploys in a crime.
Why not give the memory test during the chatting session to see what happens to cognitive function then?
I'm not sure about the cognitive function, but it sure would be a conversation killer!
Personally I doubt the deficit is caused by the stress of trying to impress. Speaking as a man, the effect of seeing a "stunning" woman (whether or not I'm going to make any effort to impress her), is not dissimilar to how I feel when entering a light hypnotic trance. I'm sure stunning women could (and indeed do) 'utilize' (in the technical hypno-therapeutic sense) this state.
I'd be interested to see studies investigating increased male suggestibility in these situations.
Here's another trick that's a little weirder. When you're adjusting the mixture, instead of trying to listen to the engine RPM, look at the exhaust. More to the point, look at the shadow of the exhaust in bright sunlight. It's way, *way* more sensitive. Adjust it until you can't see opacity -- you can barely see the exhaust's shadow, at which point you're a little lean, so give it just a bit more fuel. You'll be fairly close to best power. (Not best fuel consumption, though.)
Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
This is why the "player" books and web sites stress the necessity of putting down beautiful women and getting them a little off balance. Don't flatter them.
This only works with very good looking women who are used to being flattered. It angers the ones that aren't 9s and 10s.
Smarter no, just having an iphone should negate the effect of that app.
What I need to do is look richer
I have an idea - carry around an iphone!
First, kudos for your good job on the terminology. Meanwhile, I know, I know, anecdote != data, but thought two things might be relevant.
First, the This American Life episode Testosterone. Act Two is about an FTM man, who talks about his experiences on testosterone and how it's changed his views on behavior. Specifically, he describes how difficult he's found it to not ogle women even though he knows how inappropriate and potentially hurtful it can be. Obviously, it's only one trans man, so it's not exactly a scientific study. Likewise, I've heard from some trans men I know that their experiences don't match the This American Life story and they're not thrilled with it being mentioned as a representative experience. (As, I guess, I'm doing right now. Whoops.)
Second, as a trans woman who is attracted to women, I've had an interesting experience with perceiving other women since I've gone on hormones. (Right now there are a number of /.ers wondering whether they're supposed to be fantasizing about some hot lesbian action or disgusted because one of the women still has a penis...)
I've heard estrogen described as something which lowers filters, and I think that's a pretty accurate way of putting it. My emotions have been cranked up a notch since going on estrogen. Now, the expected/obvious part of that has been that I cry easier, but the opposite is true as well - I laugh easier. Relate that to sex and sexuality, and I've definitely felt like I've had just as much trouble keeping eye contact now as when I was flooded with testosterone when I was in my early teens.
I'd be curious as well to see a more broad study comparing responses of different populations: every combination of transsexual and cissexual (that is, not transsexual), straight, bi, and gay. Does a hormonally-female transsexual such as my self have different responses than a cissexual lesbian? Or a straight woman? Or a transsexual man? How do gender identity and sexuality (no to mention hormones) change the effects of focusing on a desirable sex partner?
-Trillian
I say this is a symptom of our society now where it is 'rude' for a man to look at a woman the way he really wants to. If I am talking to a hot chick, most of my concentration is on controlling the eyes and glances up and down etc so that she doesn't catch me in the act of checking her out, and watching out for the split second when she's distracted and you can get away with a decent glance at her tits. being careful not to let the eyes linger anywhere too long, even though you'd really like to just take a nice long slow look at her face, tits, and the general shape of her body.
it's fucking hard work.
this is why the smooth talking guys are the same ones who run their eyes up and down the chicks, and get away with it. They are actually not doing all this hard work. This dumbing down only happens to the poor modern guys.
And if it's happening _after_ talking to the hottie, it's cos the guy, now that he's finished that strenuous work, is busy imagining how he'd pound that bit of meat if he got a chance.
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Water gets you wet.
Did they use multiple hot women of varied intelligence to see if the relative agitation level of the male subject impacted their test scores? I suspect it might; thus has been my experience.
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Of course few of us actually admit that Holden is really based in Detroit, or Ford in Dearborn across the pond.
To be fair though, Commodores, Falcons, and the HSV & FPV brethren aren't made outside Australia, despite the fact that many a tourist from the US or the UK admire them quite a lot; we get quite a bit of metal and features for our money, which only partially makes up for the ridiculous prices we pay for most imports.
Man who leaps off cliff jumps to conclusion.
This isn't due to the men "using up their cognitive resources." There is a simpler explanation. When the men talk to the woman they find attractive they are still thinking about her for a short while afterwards so their performance on the intelligence test is lower because they are distracted.
So to attractive women all mens are dumb... what a harsh world to them
Guys who are able to maintain their cool and not lose themselves when around hot girls are the ones that can actually land them. If you can figure out how to do this you put yourself on top and demonstrate to women that you are something special, selecting yourself out from the crowd. I highly recommend it.
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It's a pleasure to meet me. I hope you never find a live turtle in your soup.
Circumcision is child abuse.
two things come to mind: 1) how do people get money for studies like this? 2) is it the same for lesbians?
See Stupifyin' Jones.
Seastead this.
The more they fancied them, the worse their score.
This means the women involved in conducting the study chatted with 40 men who then evaluated how attractive they found the woman they were talking with. I bet there were some interesting talks over coffee after those results were processed.
... always date retards!
"My cats breath smells like cat food!"
When my bike broke down in a village on the border of Maharashtra and Goa, it was repaired by a blacksmith.
Also, precisely what is wrong with my statement? It boils down to:
Any (A) that can be repaired by (B) using (C) is excellent.
So where exactly was the grammatical error Mr. Coward?
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we are just empathic
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Yeah, he's insulting harleys because he can't afford one. Not because they're inefficient and amazingly loud at the expense of actually working well. People buy a harley because they have a small penis and need the amazingly loud and annoying noise of their shitty engines to drown out this reality.
-1 disagree is not a modifier for a reason. -1 troll, flaimbait, redundant, overrated are NOT acceptable substitutes.
Yes, they should immediately start changing what ain't broke. If they're reliable then why on earth should they change?
-1 disagree is not a modifier for a reason. -1 troll, flaimbait, redundant, overrated are NOT acceptable substitutes.
The volunteers then spent seven minutes chatting to male or female members of the research team before repeating the test. The results showed that men were slower and less accurate
:)
Wow, that's gotta be some team
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
My colleagues and I are currently working on our PHDs in "No Shit." Our studies not only include the one mentioned in TFA but also such ground-breaking work such as "Fire Bad," "Women Good," and the crown jewel of them all; "The Logic and Method to Capturing Ants, Specifically Using Young Growth From Deciduous Trees."
Can I have some grant money please?
...are pictures of the women they were chatting to that made their brains stop working properly.
Whenever you hang around people of inferior intelligence, your brain kind of shuts off.
nothing .... in particular !
From the article: >'But a woman also looks for signs of other attributes, such as wealth, youth and kindness.' Wealth and youth, ok. But I wasn't aware that kindness belongs to that list...
There's a noise that comes from the riduculous concept of having two enormous cylinders and uneven timing, but I'm pretty sure some have their exhausts modded too. There are one or two twats that ride them near me (all night sometimes) and they're louder than a plane taking off.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Well duh! Ask any dude who's paid money for a divorce to upgrade to a "better" wife can tell you that! Haha! Jim Clark and Steven Spielberg come to mind. They paid millions to divorce and upgrade to their newer wives. We women know your kryponite! By the way, here's something else that's obvious and doesn't need some study: We women aren't really impressed when you're a guy "friend" and you buy us stuff and show us your nice car, etc. If you start as "the nice guy friend," you'll most likely stay as one. Sorry, but you probably are better off making your own version of Lisa from Weird Science :(
I think this should be a study: why do we women not date the nice guys but stay with the guys who treat us like crap?? I am a woman and I STILL can't figure it out. Maybe you nerdy slashdot guys can figure it out for me!
While pretty woman affect men to distraction good looking men can do the same right back, even to the prettiest of women.
Seems to me the study simply points out, we are distracted by things we find pleasing.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
You've got it all wrong. Men have Quantum RAM. Here's why: Upon seeing a beautiful woman, males switch control systems over to Mr. Happy. Mr. Happy only has a few synapses. Though appearing stupid, when Mr. Happy is 'in charge' and making decisions, they are actually quite an amazing feat for that small amount of computing power. Quantum RAM is the only possible solution. (see article on Quantum RAM: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/08/22/1255236/New-Idea-Could-Lead-to-Quantum-RAM?art_pos=4 )
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Icepacks in the right places...
Make sure you replace them before they start to melt though, otherwise they will have the inverse effect.
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
Not to mention, a woman with perky B's will still have perky B's 10 years from now. A 20 year old chick with D's will likely have her navel between her tits by that time, and likely looks far less good without a bra than with one already. =P
"This leads to speculation that men use up so much of their brain function or 'cognitive resources' trying to impress beautiful women, they have little left for other tasks. Psychologists at Radboud University in The Netherlands carried out the study after one of them was so struck on impressing an attractive woman he had never met before, that he could not remember his address when she asked him where he lived".
I bet that impressed her.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
Ok, ms Playboy. Thank you for letting us know how you and your friends refer to them.
I have no such problem since my GF is a GIF.
Did they discover this just now???
Gee...
I'm no longer fed up with MS Windows: I go rid of them
I don't know much about a BMW - but Harley? Please..... Overhyped outdated bullshit technology. It's a shame that all the rest of the bike manufacturers have switched over to building that stupid V-twin. I rode KZ's all through the '80's. On one bike, I rode 25,000 miles in two years, with one breakdown. The coil gave out. You're simply not going to find many Harley Davidson bikes with that kind of mileage and that kind of record.
And, like a couple other posters have pointed out: half or more of the HD bikes in this country are owned by accountants, dentists, and other professionals who use the damned things like "cafe racers". Change out of a suit, into the leather costume, ease the old hawg down close to the bar, then make a lot of noise coming into the parking lot so that everyone sees you. Wow, what a rush! Talk about macho!! After visiting two or three bars, the bike goes back into the garage, where it gets another unneeded coat of polish, just to sit until the owner feel the need to prove his manhood again.
Give me a KZ 900. It isn't very loud - well, most of the time - but that thing will carry you coast to coast comfortably and reliably. If you just HAVE to hear the thunder, crank the throttle, and listen to the sound of REAL power!
Harley? Phhht. If someone were to give me one, for free, I would just trade it in on something else. A stripped down Harley costs about twice as much as a full dressed anything else!!
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I don't really think this is news.....
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
sorry, that cute girl from the other office walked by
Photoshop.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
When girls "find out" I'm smart, they must think I'm boring or uncool because they instantly move away from me.
I've already discovered an app that makes me dumber: alcohol.
Two heads and only enough blood to run 1 at a time! ....
Were we talking?
never send a boy to do a mans job.
The test may have a hidden variable. As I read that the subjects were asked their addresses, I thought, "They're stupefied because they are trying to gauge whether she is asking to come home with them." Why else would she be asking for their home addresses?
Any (A) that can be repaired by (B) using (C) is excellent.
So where exactly was the grammatical error Mr. Coward?
I think his (poorly made) point was one of ambiguity rather than grammar. What you said could be parsed a couple of ways...
"So easy, even 'an illiterate indian village blacksmith using nothing but a hammer and a hacksaw' can fix it"
or
"Requires 'an illiterate indian village blacksmith using nothing but a hammer and a hacksaw' to fix"
"Extreme feminine beauty is always disturbing. -- Spock, "The Cloud Minders", stardate 5818.4"
The Dudley Moore movie was "Crazy People" with Daryl Hannah. And remember: SONY ... because caucasians are just too damn tall.
But getting back to the main point. Isn't this one of the main subplots of all primetime sitcons of the past 50 years?
"I know a lot of women who dumb themselves down..."
You suspect that it might happen. You have heard that women do it. But you don't witness it on a regular basis. It is an urban myth spread by intelligent women to make you believe that they (or their gender) are more intelligent than they appear to be. Some desperate men go along with it because they believe that it will curry favour with those few women who might consider them as a mate.
Don't be a mug.
Agreed. Is this something that's peculiar to men? If so, I'd expect gay men to exhibit similar results after talking with an attractive man.
Or is it women's physical appeal that does the trick – in which case straight men and lesbians might be similarly affected.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Not to mention, a woman with perky B's will still have perky B's 10 years from now.
Unless she goes from a low B to a high C for a year or two when she has a kid, and then goes back down. That does bad things.
Good thing I'm more of a leg man.
My only comment is:
Poor guy; the one question I don't want to forget the answer to is when an attractive woman asks where I live.
-"Those who fought today will die tommorow."-
His (poorly made) point was a result of confusing the meaning of the word "can" with the meaning of the words "has to".
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
If you have an iPhone, you don't find any women attractive.
It seems more plausible that the higher-level functions that were used to measure "stupidity" were superseded by lower-level / more primal functions of the brain that say "let's shoot dna at each other" . . . oi.
The results would change if the subject knew the result would be shared with the attractive woman ?
The flip side of this research is how many women recognise that the smooth talking player doesn't really fancy them.
I wonder how attractive were the women who dreamed up this study? Can you say sensible shoes?
Just how much did they waste on this test of the supremely obvious?
It's called booze and you give it to them.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
If they had all these hot women around, how can we be sure the study was even executed properly or results accurately recorded?
Unless all the researchers were women and gay men.....
So, how many billions of dollars are lost every year in lowered productivity due to male workers interacting with attractive co-workers?
Maybe women (at least the attractive ones) really *shouldn't* be allowed to work! At least, they should be segregated. And its not even because women are inferior.. in fact they are probably superior in this regard so they really can't complain. We need to keep women (the attractive ones) out of the workplace for our own good!
The women (the attractive ones, of course) should probably stay home where they can realize their full potential without interfering with men's work (and I think you know what I'm saying here.. you know? you know what I am saying? Why am I talking like this?)
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I really don't think she cares either.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
A shot of WD-40 to the air intake will do the same thing, with the side benefits of not having to remove the spark plug and not getting petrol all over.
they're generally softer
But their output ranges from loud to abrasive.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
Then why does exactly the same thing happen to me regardless of the gender of the object of my affliction?
Mind you, I am bisexual, though still, how can my body be thinking that I'll potentially be reproducing anything at all when it's spurred by mingling with another (attractive) male?
Who would of guessed.
Show of hands who else clicked on the article because they thought they'd show the test woman?
Anybody that has ever been to a strip club could tell you that attractive women make men (and some women too) stupid! In fact, I believe their entire business model is predicated on that phenomenon! Serving them alcohol doesn't make 'em any smarter either.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Same trick captured Russian solders showed the Nazis on the Eastern front.
Would it be possible to try this out with people in varying stages of a relationship?
That is, do we eventually recover by adjusting to the person in question, or are married men who are truly still in love necessarily dumber around their wife?
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
the passenger side seat.
ie. the sidecar.
Well, your body doesn't "know" anything about reproducing. It just so happens that if a male's sexual response cycle completes while he is inside of a female (which, for heterosexual males, is likely the most satisfying scenario), reproduction can occur. In terms of the sexual response cycle, reproduction is simply a side-effect of something you're already doing. And you're having sex because it feels good and (presumably) you find your partner attractive.
Attractiveness is a major contributing factor to sexual arousal so that's why it works either way. Sexual arousal/climax is the body's (mind's) goal, offspring is the (potential) consequence.
That's why I hate attractive people. I just thought i was stupid all the time and blamed it on my own self-loathing. Go figure.
More important to be smarter, than look smarter.. I've had to reboot my life 3 times because of women.. They all started out as physical attraction, which is an important part of the equation.. but is seriously negated when they turn out to be coo coo for cocoa puffs.. It has led me to ask, do I make women crazy ?, or were they crazy to be with me ? .. To keep on topic, I have no problems talking to any woman regardless of looks, because experience has taught me that they are potentially insane.
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With the minor side-effect of spontaneous combustion of any residual WD-40 contacting hot engine parts.
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Unfortunately, advertisers tend to confuse "can" and "has to" as well, thus ruining a good word.
In fairness, words and phrases like "can," "must," "may," "ought to," etc. are really poorly distinguished anyway. I like those specs that explicitly define them.
(offtopic, but meh)
i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
All connected in a circle with a token-ring network interconnect..running a Yuri simulation.. plug to socket, in a big circle. huh huh-huh huh-huh-huh, he-he he-he-he he-he, huh huh.
this needs to be refiled under thank you mister obvious: the cause of this malady is the blood rushing out of the big head to the little head Duh, come on people!
The blond rushes from....
ah, that's better
A lot less than for an app which makes me look like Brad Pitt in front of attractive women. Got one of those?
I am Brad Pitt, you inglorious bastard!
People willing to trade their freedom of expression for temporary entertainment deserve neither and will lose both.
gurls rulez
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Age, sex, location please if you are female then we could talk more. A hot chick could get hell out of any men, look at Tajmahal in India, one nut created it for women.
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God gave man a penis and a brain, but not enough blood to operate them at the same time.
"Man is endowed with a brain and a penis and just enough blood to make one function at a time"
Good thing I'm more of a leg man.
Yes, because cellulites are almost as hot as when those veins start popping out.
And proud because the dutch girls are pretty enough to cause this effect, ;-)
Disclaimer: I'm dutch.
In other news: Water wet, sky blue, puppies cute.
Porquoi?