Yeah, IBMs open source strategy is to commoditise markets they can't compete commercially in. The 'if I can't have it, noone can' attitude. Which suits open source fans just fine, as the more commoditised software is the more backing/usage open source gets.
OS/2 couldn't compete with Windows, so they are trying to commoditise that market with Linux. And they're probably prepared to let AIX become collateral damage if need be in the future (once AIX no longer has any advantages over Linux). It was probably too much effort to keep developing it anyway.
They won't be trying to commoditise the database or app server market yet though. Although WebSphere might be a lost cause long term.
Maybe you should reread your post, you said that it 'still isn't'. - Implying that Windows still isn't an operating system, and with the previous reference to the DOS underpinnings you set yourself up for that interpretation.
I'm not saying I agreed with his judgement about whether or not they were real operating systems. IMO NT is a real OS, and so is 9x.
But you still read too much into the non stated reason why he said that NT etc wasn't a real OS - he never stated it was because it ran on DOS. They were two different statements with different reasons that came to the same conclusion.
Anyway, I'm not going to bother defending someone else's attempt at a joke any longer (if it was a better joke I might). But I stand by my statement that you assumed something that wasn't said, just like you assumed it was my comment in the first place.
Also, I'm wondering if they'll finally give up on that stupid drive lettering. I don't see any reason why that ever had to exist, and now that they're doing an overhaul of the whole filesystem, it seems like a good oportunity to get rid of it. You'd think, since they try to be user friendly, that they would want to give devices and partitions names instead of letters. I do still see it in that screenshot, but things could change by the time it's released.
It looks like step 2 on the long road to drive letters actually being phased out. Or step 1 maybe - nobody actually seemed to use W2Ks ability to not have to assign letters to non-system partitions and then mount them in directories.
It's going to take a long time for applications to not expect drive letters though - they are just going to have to progressively hide them over time. It will take forever to be able to drop them altogether. MS software is usually crippled by it's own legacy, but it has been a sucessful business strategy.
I think having a single tree (like unix) with mount points will be more important that being able to name the drives.
I've dealt with a lot of bad products from MS, but SQL Server is not one of them. What exactly is wrong with it? It's been rock solid to me, with good features. I suppose the licensing might be brutal, but I don't care so much about that.
Yeah, I reckon SQL Server is one of the few good products MS makes. But the cost is getting horrendous - last time I looked DB2 was almost half the price for a dual cpu (and unlimited CAL) server.
Hell, I have had Windows 2000 require a reboot to change the bleeding IP address on a NIC. It does not seem to ask for this consistently though as NT used to.
I'm not 100% sure, but in my experience with W2K you can change the IP address fine, but change the DNS settings and it's reboot time.
Waay better than NT4 was, but I still prefer Linux:)
If you just want JSP stuff, you shouldn't be using J2EE. You're adding unnecessary 'enterprise' features, then wondering why it's too complex. Just use a web container like Jetty or Tomcat etc. Not many websites would need J2EE unless they had to integrgate with a ton of other backend systems.
J2EE is more comparable to the entire.NET framework (at least), not just ASP.NET.
And anybody bringing up Pet Store either is slightly ignorant of what it was for, or has another agenda. Pet Store was a demonstration of every little feature, not an example of a well architected application.
Australia is just about the only place in the world where capping is implemented, which is just plain embarassing. If a UK, Canadian or USA provider applied capping to their service, there would be a slight rushing noise as all their subscribers left and their business imploded.
You probably haven't noticed all the Brits, Canadians, Kiwis, Dutch, South Africans, and even some Yanks etc etc talking about their broadband caps in this very discussion then have you?:)
Porbably none of those caps were in place 3 years ago either.
I chose TWiki because of it's large userbase and it seemed to have a lot of very powerful features.
But I have to admit I was very tempted by ZWiki (Zope based) and MoiMoi (name?) (Python based). I was a little nervous (probably baseless) about using Zope purely from a backup and disaster recovery P.O.V. - flat files just seemed easier (hey I'm lazy). And the leading Python/flat file one didn't quite have some of TWiki's features.
Those two tempted me because I prefer Python to Perl, and Zope seems cool although I'm not sure I have the time to fully grok Zope.
I've set up a TWiki for our small company, and it's really starting to take off and become the defacto intranet once the users got their heads around the concepts (it can be a little strange to less techie users at first).
It might not be exactly what you need, but you can upload file attachments, use (simple) revision control, and there are plenty of plugins available for trickier stuff.
Most CMS systems seem more about publishing and templates, and the open source portals all seem to want to be slashdot. But Wikis seem to be all about collaboration and participation - although they can still do the publishing/discussing stuff too.
Similar thing happened to somebody I know. 14 year old punk told him Korn was heavy metal.
If that punk had said it to me I'd have beaten him to death with a Black Sabbath CD.
Don't be too hard on kids these days, you should expect some confusion when a band with a name like Metallica hasn't produced anything resembling metal anytime during those kids lifetimes either;)
The only reason they're saving these birds is because they're cute and rats aren't.
If there were endangered native rat species unique to that island in danger of being wiped out by very common birds, you could bet your ass they would be saved.
Australia has native endangered rodents and marsupials that they are trying to save. NZ only had two native mammal species (both are bats and pretty ugly) and they are the subject of conservation work. NZ is trying hard to wipe out cute deer and bunnies that are destroying bush and farmland.
After 5 years of correcting users, I would probably have changed the instructions users need to follow to say "file > save as > \\servername\sharename\filename.ext."
Followed by:
"Why is filename.ext the only file on our intranet now? Where did everything else go?":)
And interactive media will most likely evolve into its own right.
That's what I was thinking. He wasn't describing the evolution of Film - more like the evolution of video games. I can't imagine people going to the cinema (or gathered round a future TV like device) to watch an 8 year fuck with the 'movie'.
It is common pratice to have some idea what you're sending out. Speaking as a Debian developer, there are people who argue and practice that a developer should read every new line in every update, including Branden, our X developer. (I've done it, but mainly because I'm small fry.) To be completely ignorant of what you are sending out is ill-advised.
That is true, but that claim your parent poster refuted went further than that. Does Debian (ie it's maintainers) cross check that incoming code against other code bases to see if it was 'stolen'. No of course not, they just check it for correctness.
Not to defend SCO (may they rot in hell), but claiming they should've known would only apply if they added the code not a third party that isn't allowed to. I think SCO's case is without merit, but I don't think a court would uphold the unwitting GPL redistribution snag against them.
Really? And exactly what SCO code or IP has been accidentally embedded in that particular product?
Most probably none. But, if MS is going to launch a FUD campaign around SCO vs Linux they will want to make sure there is no way it could backfire and get them caught up in it.
Either that or they now doubt whether the GNU code they ship in SFU really is GNU code.
But I just suspect MS is in 'cover all the bases' mode.
Agreed, of course that was the reason, but that wasn't my objection - the previous poster held Top Gun up as an example of using 'real' stuff as opposed to some hacking movies using 'fake' stuff. I just found that comment ironic.
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If this was Apple they give it a dot rev and charge $129 for it.
Same deal - XP (NT 5.1) is only a dot rev past W2K (NT 5.0).
I think 2003 Server is NT 5.2, but don't quote me on that.
Another windsurfer - cool
My slashdot nick is the name of a NZ based custom board builder (I used to have one of their boards).
Other non computer stuff for me would be mountain biking and the odd bit of snowboarding (although not too much recently).
Yeah, IBMs open source strategy is to commoditise markets they can't compete commercially in. The 'if I can't have it, noone can' attitude. Which suits open source fans just fine, as the more commoditised software is the more backing/usage open source gets.
OS/2 couldn't compete with Windows, so they are trying to commoditise that market with Linux. And they're probably prepared to let AIX become collateral damage if need be in the future (once AIX no longer has any advantages over Linux). It was probably too much effort to keep developing it anyway.
They won't be trying to commoditise the database or app server market yet though. Although WebSphere might be a lost cause long term.
Maybe you should reread your post, you said that it 'still isn't'. - Implying that Windows still isn't an operating system, and with the previous reference to the DOS underpinnings you set yourself up for that interpretation.
I'm not saying I agreed with his judgement about whether or not they were real operating systems. IMO NT is a real OS, and so is 9x.
But you still read too much into the non stated reason why he said that NT etc wasn't a real OS - he never stated it was because it ran on DOS. They were two different statements with different reasons that came to the same conclusion.
Anyway, I'm not going to bother defending someone else's attempt at a joke any longer (if it was a better joke I might). But I stand by my statement that you assumed something that wasn't said, just like you assumed it was my comment in the first place.
Also, I'm wondering if they'll finally give up on that stupid drive lettering. I don't see any reason why that ever had to exist, and now that they're doing an overhaul of the whole filesystem, it seems like a good oportunity to get rid of it. You'd think, since they try to be user friendly, that they would want to give devices and partitions names instead of letters. I do still see it in that screenshot, but things could change by the time it's released.
It looks like step 2 on the long road to drive letters actually being phased out. Or step 1 maybe - nobody actually seemed to use W2Ks ability to not have to assign letters to non-system partitions and then mount them in directories.
It's going to take a long time for applications to not expect drive letters though - they are just going to have to progressively hide them over time. It will take forever to be able to drop them altogether. MS software is usually crippled by it's own legacy, but it has been a sucessful business strategy.
I think having a single tree (like unix) with mount points will be more important that being able to name the drives.
Reread the post again, paying special attention to the word 'when'.
I suspect people confusing DOS kernels and NT kernels is your pet peeve, and it bothers you so much you see it everywhere.
I've dealt with a lot of bad products from MS, but SQL Server is not one of them. What exactly is wrong with it? It's been rock solid to me, with good features. I suppose the licensing might be brutal, but I don't care so much about that.
Yeah, I reckon SQL Server is one of the few good products MS makes. But the cost is getting horrendous - last time I looked DB2 was almost half the price for a dual cpu (and unlimited CAL) server.
Hell, I have had Windows 2000 require a reboot to change the bleeding IP address on a NIC. It does not seem to ask for this consistently though as NT used to.
:)
I'm not 100% sure, but in my experience with W2K you can change the IP address fine, but change the DNS settings and it's reboot time.
Waay better than NT4 was, but I still prefer Linux
You comparing apples and oranges.
.NET framework (at least), not just ASP.NET.
If you just want JSP stuff, you shouldn't be using J2EE. You're adding unnecessary 'enterprise' features, then wondering why it's too complex. Just use a web container like Jetty or Tomcat etc. Not many websites would need J2EE unless they had to integrgate with a ton of other backend systems.
J2EE is more comparable to the entire
And anybody bringing up Pet Store either is slightly ignorant of what it was for, or has another agenda. Pet Store was a demonstration of every little feature, not an example of a well architected application.
Australia is just about the only place in the world where capping is implemented, which is just plain embarassing. If a UK, Canadian or USA provider applied capping to their service, there would be a slight rushing noise as all their subscribers left and their business imploded.
:)
You probably haven't noticed all the Brits, Canadians, Kiwis, Dutch, South Africans, and even some Yanks etc etc talking about their broadband caps in this very discussion then have you?
Porbably none of those caps were in place 3 years ago either.
I chose TWiki because of it's large userbase and it seemed to have a lot of very powerful features.
But I have to admit I was very tempted by ZWiki (Zope based) and MoiMoi (name?) (Python based). I was a little nervous (probably baseless) about using Zope purely from a backup and disaster recovery P.O.V. - flat files just seemed easier (hey I'm lazy). And the leading Python/flat file one didn't quite have some of TWiki's features.
Those two tempted me because I prefer Python to Perl, and Zope seems cool although I'm not sure I have the time to fully grok Zope.
In order to support more than 2 cpu's you need to use windows 2000 data center server.
I think that should read:
"In order to support more than 8 cpu's you need to use windows 2000 data center server."
I've set up a TWiki for our small company, and it's really starting to take off and become the defacto intranet once the users got their heads around the concepts (it can be a little strange to less techie users at first).
It might not be exactly what you need, but you can upload file attachments, use (simple) revision control, and there are plenty of plugins available for trickier stuff.
Most CMS systems seem more about publishing and templates, and the open source portals all seem to want to be slashdot. But Wikis seem to be all about collaboration and participation - although they can still do the publishing/discussing stuff too.
I think you missed his point. He seemed to be bashing CORBA not J2EE.
:)
Or am I delusional? On second thought, don't answer that
Similar thing happened to somebody I know. 14 year old punk told him Korn was heavy metal.
;)
If that punk had said it to me I'd have beaten him to death with a Black Sabbath CD.
Don't be too hard on kids these days, you should expect some confusion when a band with a name like Metallica hasn't produced anything resembling metal anytime during those kids lifetimes either
The only reason they're saving these birds is because they're cute and rats aren't.
If there were endangered native rat species unique to that island in danger of being wiped out by very common birds, you could bet your ass they would be saved.
Australia has native endangered rodents and marsupials that they are trying to save. NZ only had two native mammal species (both are bats and pretty ugly) and they are the subject of conservation work. NZ is trying hard to wipe out cute deer and bunnies that are destroying bush and farmland.
Cute has nothing to do with it.
Doh, freudian typo there. I'm not sure what an anal pendant is (a Klingon maybe?), but it sounds gross!
Isn't Europe and Africa on the east coast of the Atlantic?
heh
Anyway, an anal pendant would probably say only land has a coast while the sea has a shore - or something (I'm not sure myself - no pun intended)
Don't worry.
By 2880 we will have developed amazing technology such as asteroid repellent beams, fusion and flying cars.
Yeah right, next thing you'll be saying is that Duke Nukem Forever will be out by then!
After 5 years of correcting users, I would probably have changed the instructions users need to follow to say "file > save as > \\servername\sharename\filename.ext."
:)
Followed by:
"Why is filename.ext the only file on our intranet now? Where did everything else go?"
Film as a non interactive media is here to stay.
And interactive media will most likely evolve into its own right.
That's what I was thinking. He wasn't describing the evolution of Film - more like the evolution of video games. I can't imagine people going to the cinema (or gathered round a future TV like device) to watch an 8 year fuck with the 'movie'.
It is common pratice to have some idea what you're sending out. Speaking as a Debian developer, there are people who argue and practice that a developer should read every new line in every update, including Branden, our X developer. (I've done it, but mainly because I'm small fry.) To be completely ignorant of what you are sending out is ill-advised.
That is true, but that claim your parent poster refuted went further than that. Does Debian (ie it's maintainers) cross check that incoming code against other code bases to see if it was 'stolen'. No of course not, they just check it for correctness.
Not to defend SCO (may they rot in hell), but claiming they should've known would only apply if they added the code not a third party that isn't allowed to. I think SCO's case is without merit, but I don't think a court would uphold the unwitting GPL redistribution snag against them.
Really? And exactly what SCO code or IP has been accidentally embedded in that particular product?
Most probably none. But, if MS is going to launch a FUD campaign around SCO vs Linux they will want to make sure there is no way it could backfire and get them caught up in it.
Either that or they now doubt whether the GNU code they ship in SFU really is GNU code.
But I just suspect MS is in 'cover all the bases' mode.
Agreed, of course that was the reason, but that wasn't my objection - the previous poster held Top Gun up as an example of using 'real' stuff as opposed to some hacking movies using 'fake' stuff. I just found that comment ironic.
If you are going to make a movie about flying (ala Top Gun), you don't do it with imaginary jets.
Funny you should mention that. The enemy migs in Top Gun seemed pretty imaginary to me.