OK there are two things mentioned on the Web site about how this is supposed to work. And I have been forced to ponder about two of them:
1) Directory architecture. People should be able to access documents in a manner like/hardware/reviews/celeron/overclocking etc, right? Well first of all I want to know, like everyone else, who controlls this directory architecture? What if tons of garbage get pumped in, like hundreds of empty files and stuff? Also, you say it's not searchable? Well, I pictured that with a directory structure like the one outlined, one would be able to load/hardware and see directories like reviews, previews, articles, etc, in the directory, and that's how all directories would work, and thus be searchable? After all, woulnd't someone have to go around giving out the document location anyway? How anonymous is that? I think we'd be able to remain pretty annonymous by having at LEAST a username and password that each person can use. For example:/hardware/articles/athlon_rules.html->fleckster or something like that, tagging the file name with the user name, in a virtual manner, wouldn't really bother anyone, they could use a bunch of phony logins if they really need to remain anonymous, right?
2) Centralization You say that there will be no centralization. So how are all of the new servers gonna know where all the other servers are? My point: doesn't it seem like there will HAVE to be at least one mothership of all servers to give out lists of all other servers? It's like saying I could get a list of all Quake III servers without a master server containing a list of public servers. Basically, this doesn't seem like it can happen without one master server, unless you reimplement TCP/IP communcations to work like DNS does, and "just find stuff" by hierarchy, but that doesn't seem quite possible for something that RELIES on TCP/IP, does it?
Here is a little something I came up with from looking at pricewatch prices for the items that will be in the X-Box. Of course these are all a little more high-quality than Microsoft will use, especially since I pointed at Athlon here, not Penticrap 3. But take a look:
MS X-Box comparison system --------------------------
$300 for Athlon + Mobo $40 for 64MB PC133 $110 for 8GB HD $150 for Viper 770 Ultra $50 for 3Com 905C $90 for 4x DVD
total: $740
Please remember this pricing is vague, and, again, uses more high-quality components than MS will use. For example, MS will probably use something to the effect of a Vanta nVidia card. But it would still cost a lot more than $300 for any of us to make a system like this these days.
My responses: Your Name: Rick Casals Your E-Mail: fleck@linuxmafia.org I am over 13 years of age Suspected Mutant's Name: HugeSchlong-X Suspected Mutant's E-Mail: hugeschlong99@aol.com The individual in question has a tendency to: spew toxic gasses from multiple orifices The individual will often: shoot looks that kill The individual has frequently demonstrated: an affinity for spandex The following phenomena have occurred in the presence of the individual: increased hormonal response The individual appears to possess: razor-sharp tongue When in close proximity to the suspected individual, you sometimes: feel hot and tingly
in a perfect world: the moderator(s) think this is "2: Funny";)
There's an MP3 CD player out there called MamboX which seems very cool. It supports just about anything (MP3s, especially). You can burn tons of CDs and never run out of space, and each CD is only $1 or so (depends where you shop). Of course, it's $170, and a decent CD-RW is around $200 at best. But hey, I think it'd be worth it. Just picture this, after pirating like 20 CDs, you'll have gained $200 worth of CDs for free! So inactuallity, you're SAVING money!;)
When SBLive! had closed drivers, I bashed it left and right, and I woulnd't touch it. Since the code opened and the drivers may be included in the next kernel release, it is at the top of my Hardware Upgrades list, and I should be getting it within a couple of weeks. No source, no go. For me, that is.
dude, yeah, but all the stuff you talked about sucked, dude. i mean big cool stuff like quake 3, netscape, (IE, too), mozilla, and for the desktops? well, E, Gnome, KDE... and all that, dude.
yes i am aware dude. but can you code big huge memory consuming programs like 3d games and word processors and web browsers and desktop environments etc with these other languages? no.
Are you sure he didn't say there would only be about 20 revisions to 2.2 instead? I'm just saying, did you look at this fresh before posting your comment? That's all...
this seems as though it would be another one of those innovations that causes problems. why? it sees as though it will make it so that programmers no longer have to code correctly, and we already have enough of this garbage (pun) floating around. it's time to stop making it so easy for programmers not to have to code properly; myself included. i WANT to have to worry about maloc() calls etc. 'nuff said
I have always believed and still believe that Linux is defenitely not ready to be sold as a desktop OS, systems like Red Hat, SuSE, and Corel put users through such hell that it really gives Linux a bad name. Users gain high hopes and expectancies of an OS that's going to be easy to setup and configure and maybe even detect their hardware etc etc and they'll be able to connect to the net by simply entering in a phone # and a login and password but then they realize that there's DNS (nameservers) to throw in/etc/resolv.conf and that there's PAP, CHAP, script, DHCP... eep! The point is Linux is defenitely not ready until ALL of these things can be easily, quickly, and painlessly done. NOT to mention the whole kernel compiling thing, too...
*whew*, I'm tired, get me a paper towel to dry off the sweat.
I've also seen your web page and your band site... yes, you're just another one of those kiddies that thinks j00r l33t because j00 don't n33d any gay Gooooeeez.... *siiigh*
What matters here is not what Linux was "not designed" to be, is what it COULD be designed to be; what POTENTIAL it has as a "pretty desktop OS"... I also personally know someone that is working on an OSXwm for Linux... *hush hush*
Although Linux already has a pair of evolving GUIs -- KDE and Gnome -- neither has a graphical file manager. Instead of clicking on icons or menus to open and save documents, users must type file names into a command-line interface.
Not to mention: "We've never used either desktop, and if we have, then we didn't really know what we were doing! We're just talking out of our collective asses... in an attempt to make this seem like bigger, more important news."
WHY?! Because they BOTH have graphical file managers and they BOTH offer cute little icons to click on, AND shortcuts, and much more...
However, there is some good stuff missing. First of all, it's not easy to do half of the stuff when it comes to icons and junk. In KDE, it's very difficult to chose an icon unless it's in one of the specified directories, and it also only supports XPM; GNOME supports a little more than that. So, yes, there is still work to be done.
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OK there are two things mentioned on the Web site about how this is supposed to work. And I have been forced to ponder about two of them:
/hardware/reviews/celeron/overclocking etc, right? Well first of all I want to know, like everyone else, who controlls this directory architecture? What if tons of garbage get pumped in, like hundreds of empty files and stuff? Also, you say it's not searchable? Well, I pictured that with a directory structure like the one outlined, one would be able to load /hardware and see directories like reviews, previews, articles, etc, in the directory, and that's how all directories would work, and thus be searchable? After all, woulnd't someone have to go around giving out the document location anyway? How anonymous is that? I think we'd be able to remain pretty annonymous by having at LEAST a username and password that each person can use. For example: /hardware/articles/athlon_rules.html->fleckster or something like that, tagging the file name with the user name, in a virtual manner, wouldn't really bother anyone, they could use a bunch of phony logins if they really need to remain anonymous, right?
1) Directory architecture.
People should be able to access documents in a manner like
2) Centralization
You say that there will be no centralization. So how are all of the new servers gonna know where all the other servers are? My point: doesn't it seem like there will HAVE to be at least one mothership of all servers to give out lists of all other servers? It's like saying I could get a list of all Quake III servers without a master server containing a list of public servers. Basically, this doesn't seem like it can happen without one master server, unless you reimplement TCP/IP communcations to work like DNS does, and "just find stuff" by hierarchy, but that doesn't seem quite possible for something that RELIES on TCP/IP, does it?
Well that's it. Thanks a ton for listening.
Here is a little something I came up with from looking at pricewatch prices for the items that will be in the X-Box. Of course these are all a little more high-quality than Microsoft will use, especially since I pointed at Athlon here, not Penticrap 3. But take a look:
MS X-Box comparison system
--------------------------
$300 for Athlon + Mobo
$40 for 64MB PC133
$110 for 8GB HD
$150 for Viper 770 Ultra
$50 for 3Com 905C
$90 for 4x DVD
total: $740
Please remember this pricing is vague, and, again, uses more high-quality components than MS will use. For example, MS will probably use something to the effect of a Vanta nVidia card. But it would still cost a lot more than $300 for any of us to make a system like this these days.
That's all...
So what? It's just TIM BURTON! Sheesh! I don't see anything wrong with that. Nothing at all. ;-)
http://www.mutantwatch.com/knowamutant.html
;)
My responses:
Your Name: Rick Casals
Your E-Mail: fleck@linuxmafia.org
I am over 13 years of age
Suspected Mutant's Name: HugeSchlong-X
Suspected Mutant's E-Mail: hugeschlong99@aol.com
The individual in question has a tendency to: spew toxic gasses from multiple orifices
The individual will often: shoot looks that kill
The individual has frequently demonstrated: an affinity for spandex
The following phenomena have occurred in the presence of the individual: increased hormonal response
The individual appears to possess: razor-sharp tongue
When in close proximity to the suspected individual, you sometimes: feel hot and tingly
in a perfect world: the moderator(s) think this is "2: Funny"
This is the way the test works:
You answered "yes" to 0 of 200 questions, making you 100.0% slashdot pure (0.0% slashdot corrupt).
You answered "yes" to 200 of 200 questions, making you 0.0% slashdot pure (100.0% slashdot corrupt).
Dig?
I love O'Flecky's Books. Always straight to the point.
Ohhh yeah i screwed up the #9 link ... kinda easy when you're doing that many links in such a tiny box ;-)
There are 10 babies!
Check it out:
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http://www.sgi.com/images/404_babies/7.jpg
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Who sais I live to make a fool of myself? :p ... Oh and is it me but are 8 and 9 the same?
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lol!
read above ...
... lol
ok and finally, seventh!!!
anonymous cowards are exactly that...
There's an MP3 CD player out there called MamboX which seems very cool. It supports just about anything (MP3s, especially). You can burn tons of CDs and never run out of space, and each CD is only $1 or so (depends where you shop). Of course, it's $170, and a decent CD-RW is around $200 at best. But hey, I think it'd be worth it. Just picture this, after pirating like 20 CDs, you'll have gained $200 worth of CDs for free! So inactuallity, you're SAVING money! ;)
When SBLive! had closed drivers, I bashed it left and right, and I woulnd't touch it. Since the code opened and the drivers may be included in the next kernel release, it is at the top of my Hardware Upgrades list, and I should be getting it within a couple of weeks. No source, no go. For me, that is.
dude, yeah, but all the stuff you talked about sucked, dude. i mean big cool stuff like quake 3, netscape, (IE, too), mozilla, and for the desktops? well, E, Gnome, KDE... and all that, dude.
yes i am aware dude. but can you code big huge memory consuming programs like 3d games and word processors and web browsers and desktop environments etc with these other languages? no.
how? moderators all seem to be the biggest idiots of us all
... REALLY sucks ... AND I can't use my PnP modem all the sudden.
That's all I know.
Are you sure he didn't say there would only be about 20 revisions to 2.2 instead? I'm just saying, did you look at this fresh before posting your comment? That's all...
this seems as though it would be another one of those innovations that causes problems. why? it sees as though it will make it so that programmers no longer have to code correctly, and we already have enough of this garbage (pun) floating around. it's time to stop making it so easy for programmers not to have to code properly; myself included. i WANT to have to worry about maloc() calls etc. 'nuff said
I act like all of these guys in the forums and I get moderated down to like -0xBFE666 by tight-ass moderators. What gives?
I use gimp to convert to XPM ... and I use E/Gnome now anyway
YES! YYEEESSS!!!! I agree all too much. That's the only reason a lot of GUI work eventually disgusts me: what's up with the damed fonts?!
I have always believed and still believe that Linux is defenitely not ready to be sold as a desktop OS, systems like Red Hat, SuSE, and Corel put users through such hell that it really gives Linux a bad name. Users gain high hopes and expectancies of an OS that's going to be easy to setup and configure and maybe even detect their hardware etc etc and they'll be able to connect to the net by simply entering in a phone # and a login and password but then they realize that there's DNS (nameservers) to throw in /etc/resolv.conf and that there's PAP, CHAP, script, DHCP... eep! The point is Linux is defenitely not ready until ALL of these things can be easily, quickly, and painlessly done. NOT to mention the whole kernel compiling thing, too...
*whew*, I'm tired, get me a paper towel to dry off the sweat.
I've also seen your web page and your band site... yes, you're just another one of those kiddies that thinks j00r l33t because j00 don't n33d any gay Gooooeeez.... *siiigh*
What matters here is not what Linux was "not designed" to be, is what it COULD be designed to be; what POTENTIAL it has as a "pretty desktop OS"... I also personally know someone that is working on an OSXwm for Linux... *hush hush*
Although Linux already has a pair of evolving GUIs -- KDE and Gnome -- neither has a graphical file manager. Instead of clicking on icons or menus to open and save documents, users must type file names into a command-line interface.
Not to mention: "We've never used either desktop, and if we have, then we didn't really know what we were doing! We're just talking out of our collective asses ... in an attempt to make this seem like bigger, more important news."
WHY?! Because they BOTH have graphical file managers and they BOTH offer cute little icons to click on, AND shortcuts, and much more...
However, there is some good stuff missing. First of all, it's not easy to do half of the stuff when it comes to icons and junk. In KDE, it's very difficult to chose an icon unless it's in one of the specified directories, and it also only supports XPM; GNOME supports a little more than that. So, yes, there is still work to be done.
Does this mean that 20% of game players are gay? :-)
:(
Why do I destroy my Karma so?