No. We're building to create a power plant.
It's the politicians who are trying to tackle one of the biggest problems, unemployment. And since this is a loan from the taxpayers, they're pointing out that this project also helps the taxpayers (by turning the unemployed into taxpayers).
I get your grief, and efficiency is important, but this line of reasoning is, well, reasonable considering the source of the money.
There's another layer here. Having vulnerabilities allows TLAs to do sneaky things, empowers them, and helps them do their job. And you're right, those things cut both ways. But, having them cut both ways ALSO empowers the TLAs. They all got a big budget boost in the aught years. Security was suddenly a really important thing.
So what the TLAs want isn't always their intended purpose.
Oye, end-timers. Annoyingly resilient to the perpetuated existence of the world.
But honestly, maybe these little crazes are a good thing, society-wise. I mean, it's one of those things that, no matter what you do, someone somewhere is going to look at something and claim the end of the world is nigh. Fact of life.
I remember hearing about some sort of scenario involving the alignment of the planets when I was a kid and, well, I was pretty stupid and got scared. Well maybe "scared" is a bit strong. I was concerned. As concerned as an 9 year old can be about doomsday. And I remember it passing. Nothing happened, and I was honestly a little let down. But I grew up a little then. I realized that the fantastical is simply that; fantasy. And that on some perverse level people want it all to burn and crumble.
I Imagine the Y2K delirium might have gotten more under my skin if that had never happened. In short, I was jaded to the sheer audacity of it all.
So pay attention kiddos, there's an important lesson here.
The "tax the rich panacea" will disappear when the wealth disparity gets back down to a reasonable level. It will get worse as it increases. And it has been increasing. They're getting richer, faster. So apparently the system that the government creates for them to thrive in is doing a pretty good job OR it's failing for the majority of the people. Hence the desire to shift the tax burden to to be even more progressive.
1) They pay annual business taxes.
Only if they suck at what they do. Business taxes are far lower then individual taxes. There are loopholes for businesses (well, anyone with power and money really) to funnel money around to avoid taxes. And if they're big enough, they muscle governments to pay them just to stay around. EVEN THEN, the IRS collects only ~80% of corporate taxes. For individual taxes, it's more like 98%. Sigh, I really wish I could find that statistic again. For now, take it with a grain of salt.
2) They pay their employees who have taxes taken out of their salaries.
And what if you look at it in the other direction? Employees' sweat, blood, and tears go into a corporation which makes money which is taxed. Exactly the same reasoning. So according to your logic here, we shouldn't tax the employees. Which leaves.... no one.
3) The employees pay taxes on the products they buy.
Heh, well less so if they buy from Amazon apparently. But you cannot simply view all this from the CEO's perspective. You're seeing the sales tax that the employees pay as a benevolent act of the corporation who employ them. That's a little convoluted. Equally convoluted would be to say that the employee working hard made the company profitable enough to afford hiring more employees, so the employee's hard work should be rewarded with less taxes.
I'm sorry, but I guess I'm more ignorant then most. Although I don't claim to be a Libertarian.
What is a money's "velocity"? And how would it be built in?
My taxing authorities also won't accept Euros. There is an exchange rate between dollars and bitcoins.
I also don't know what a "debt-based life-cycle" is.
Also, even if Bitcoin were to take off, as demand for it increased, it would create its own valuation bubble where it becomes more valuable to hold the money than it does to invest it.
If it takes off, I imagine more people would mine for coins, but yeah, deflation is an issue.
real demand drops, then speculators are left holding a bunch of worthless digital currency.
Yeah, inflation is also a bitch.
I'm not going to lie, economics seems like voodoo to me. I can barely grasp the basics and anything I say on the subject is guesswork and conjecture. But then again, nobody understand the economy, and guesswork is as good as it gets. Anyone saying otherwise is either lying to you or lying to himself.
Make all that automated and/or easy enough for a the average user to use while he writes his wannabe novel and you could make a mint. While I'm a true believer in free tools, charging for a baby-gloves front end seems perfectly fine to me.
And in a home invasion, now you are more likely to have the thief actually confronting somebody, and you increase the chance of someone losing their life.
Well, sure, but in this case that's the exactly why the thieves would want the info from the utility company. To avoid that and to take off with your TV while no-one is home.
The violent home invasion is a ludicrously rare scenario drummed up by security companies. People don't want to pay $30/mo to protect their TV, but they'll pay whatever you ask to keep theoretical rapists at bay.
Unfortunately, wrapping the brainfuck implementation of DoomII into an mp3 produces a dark eldritch chant that, upon playing in a dark room under a full moon, summons Cthulhu and ushers in an age of despair for 100 years. Plus or minus some if you use a bit rate less then 128.
Dude, you are OUT OF YOUR GOURD.
It's not from 1972, that coinage act is from 1792. We have since moved away from the gold or silver standard. You know, somewhere in 200+ years since. Also, I believe the price of gold and silver have fluctuated since then. Just a little bit.
Now, onlookers and all, please notice the political stance of the OutOfGourdian. Please note how ball-to-the-walls wrong he is. If you could associate one with the other on later dates and not mode him to +4 insightful, that would be appreciated
Imagine if there was no FDR, the recession of 1929 could go the route of the recession of 1921 and there would be no public projects and no Great Depression (which is not going to seem so great once the current one really hits with the debt and currency crisis).
Which just shows that you're out of your gourd.
You're just a fear-mongering conservative trying to push your agenda, or have succumb to that ilk. Who modded this up?
Yeah, and then the world economy collapsed. When shit starts to fall apart, the weakest links break first. We find where the bubbles are. Everything takes a hit and our economies cool down. Enough so that oil demand slacks off too. But oil is assuredly going to go back up. Until the next bubble.
This is going to be a pretty viscous cycle for a little while until a) There are no more real bubbles and everything is priced more or less accordingly, b) the economy doesn't cool in the downtime. Then the rising price of oil is REALLY going to tighten belts. Like, I'm going to have to finally get that electric car.
So they decided that for all videogames throughout time, there are four and only four genres. They are Action, Adventure, "Target*", and Combat/Strategy...
And for each of these we shall choose one per console system. (Oh, and I guess one for old PCs and one for new PCs).
OK, wtf is the "target" genre? Is that like the proto shoot-em-up? One in which you destroy targets?
And why is Portal competing with the gamecube?
And while it's pretty cool that Minecraft made the list, Combat/Strategy? Huh?
Clearly this was put together by someone who simply isn't a gamer. Which is kinda surprising. I mean, this has been mainstream for a while now. You'd think that someone like the Smithsonian would be able to organize this a little better. Or are they too enshrined to be affected by new cultural trends? Are they really just now noticing that game development is bigger then Hollywood?
No. No, it sill works if it's just you. If you consider everyone to be in your tribe then the inherent tribalism imbued into you by evolution turns into altruism and you do your best to help the entire world rather then just you and your own.
I know your trying your best to turn this into a debate about Communism, or Marxism, or whatever ism you feel like, but fuck you.
Without the hard-drive platter I can't perform my job, make a living, and put food on the table. Nor can I do the majority of the things I do for entertainment, nor can I use my primary learning tool to better myself.(But by god I'd rig up something to boot from a flash-drive as fast as possible).
The iron in the hard drive is part of the natural lithosphere cycle. As the tectonic plates move and crush and reform, the iron will be taken back, melted down, and spread out under new mountain.
(pft, it's as realistic as me turning into farm dirt. We put coffins in sealed containers now you git.)
His sig happens to be 100% true. So lemme get this straight, you consider someone speaking the objective truth (because it it conflicts with your hippie emotion driven thinking) to be unreliable. Worse you judge the merits of arguments based on who makes them? And any sane person should bother reading your scribblings why?
Well his sig is only partly true. The civil war wasn't entirely about ending slavery, and the cold war (and all the proxy wars) isn't what ended soviet communism. Yes, WWII and the US revolution turned out pretty well. They were both horrible things and represent a failure of events leading up to them. It would have been a lot better if we had built up Germany after WWI and if England hadn't of been such dicks. But the outcome of the conflicts was a lot better then the state prior to war. So they're, you know, "good things".
BUT
Let's take his sig at literal face value. Other then those few exceptions, war has INDEED never really solved problems. War makes more problems. War is bad. For BLATANTLY OBVIOUS REASONS. You know, the death, destruction, and retaliation? God knows that Iraq, Vietnam, WWI, and Korea went so well. So his pro-war stance is not based on objective truth, but rather cherry picking rose-tinted bits out of history. But you didn't pick up on that because you didn't think too much about it. How about that?
Oh hey, the laffer curve. You DO realize that "marginal taxes" are not "taxes" and that under our current progressive tax system, it's impossible to get to the point where one is not incentivezed to make more money? It's a nice theory for economic fundamentals, but our system is just a teensy bit more complex then that. Reganomics was built on the idea of billionaires not wanting to make an extra buck. It depends on the rich not being greedy.
Regan's and Bush's tax cuts were also accompanied by ludicrous borrowing. The economy goes great when it's all on credit. For a little while at least.
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No. We're building to create a power plant.
It's the politicians who are trying to tackle one of the biggest problems, unemployment. And since this is a loan from the taxpayers, they're pointing out that this project also helps the taxpayers (by turning the unemployed into taxpayers).
I get your grief, and efficiency is important, but this line of reasoning is, well, reasonable considering the source of the money.
There's another layer here. Having vulnerabilities allows TLAs to do sneaky things, empowers them, and helps them do their job. And you're right, those things cut both ways. But, having them cut both ways ALSO empowers the TLAs. They all got a big budget boost in the aught years. Security was suddenly a really important thing.
So what the TLAs want isn't always their intended purpose.
Oye, end-timers. Annoyingly resilient to the perpetuated existence of the world.
But honestly, maybe these little crazes are a good thing, society-wise. I mean, it's one of those things that, no matter what you do, someone somewhere is going to look at something and claim the end of the world is nigh. Fact of life.
I remember hearing about some sort of scenario involving the alignment of the planets when I was a kid and, well, I was pretty stupid and got scared. Well maybe "scared" is a bit strong. I was concerned. As concerned as an 9 year old can be about doomsday. And I remember it passing. Nothing happened, and I was honestly a little let down. But I grew up a little then. I realized that the fantastical is simply that; fantasy. And that on some perverse level people want it all to burn and crumble.
I Imagine the Y2K delirium might have gotten more under my skin if that had never happened. In short, I was jaded to the sheer audacity of it all.
So pay attention kiddos, there's an important lesson here.
About one out of every 14 programs downloaded by Windows users turns out to be malicious
Although the team admitted that this is mostly due to all non-Microsoft software as being labeled as "Malicious". (to microsoft)
Is to block every 14th download, thus making Windows malware free!
1) They pay annual business taxes.
Only if they suck at what they do. Business taxes are far lower then individual taxes. There are loopholes for businesses (well, anyone with power and money really) to funnel money around to avoid taxes. And if they're big enough, they muscle governments to pay them just to stay around. EVEN THEN, the IRS collects only ~80% of corporate taxes. For individual taxes, it's more like 98%. Sigh, I really wish I could find that statistic again. For now, take it with a grain of salt.
2) They pay their employees who have taxes taken out of their salaries.
And what if you look at it in the other direction? Employees' sweat, blood, and tears go into a corporation which makes money which is taxed. Exactly the same reasoning. So according to your logic here, we shouldn't tax the employees. Which leaves.... no one.
3) The employees pay taxes on the products they buy.
Heh, well less so if they buy from Amazon apparently. But you cannot simply view all this from the CEO's perspective. You're seeing the sales tax that the employees pay as a benevolent act of the corporation who employ them. That's a little convoluted. Equally convoluted would be to say that the employee working hard made the company profitable enough to afford hiring more employees, so the employee's hard work should be rewarded with less taxes.
That's just your $0.02
What is a money's "velocity"? And how would it be built in?
My taxing authorities also won't accept Euros. There is an exchange rate between dollars and bitcoins.
I also don't know what a "debt-based life-cycle" is.
Also, even if Bitcoin were to take off, as demand for it increased, it would create its own valuation bubble where it becomes more valuable to hold the money than it does to invest it.
If it takes off, I imagine more people would mine for coins, but yeah, deflation is an issue.
real demand drops, then speculators are left holding a bunch of worthless digital currency.
Yeah, inflation is also a bitch.
I'm not going to lie, economics seems like voodoo to me. I can barely grasp the basics and anything I say on the subject is guesswork and conjecture. But then again, nobody understand the economy, and guesswork is as good as it gets. Anyone saying otherwise is either lying to you or lying to himself.
Creationists.
Sephrioth killed it.
(and you lost all your white materia)
Make all that automated and/or easy enough for a the average user to use while he writes his wannabe novel and you could make a mint. While I'm a true believer in free tools, charging for a baby-gloves front end seems perfectly fine to me.
And in a home invasion, now you are more likely to have the thief actually confronting somebody, and you increase the chance of someone losing their life.
Well, sure, but in this case that's the exactly why the thieves would want the info from the utility company. To avoid that and to take off with your TV while no-one is home.
The violent home invasion is a ludicrously rare scenario drummed up by security companies. People don't want to pay $30/mo to protect their TV, but they'll pay whatever you ask to keep theoretical rapists at bay.
Yarrr! Thar be coins in them thar data clusters!
Unfortunately, wrapping the brainfuck implementation of DoomII into an mp3 produces a dark eldritch chant that, upon playing in a dark room under a full moon, summons Cthulhu and ushers in an age of despair for 100 years. Plus or minus some if you use a bit rate less then 128.
Google has a ticket open.
You don't want to work for those companies because the management is retarded.
It's a fairly accurate representation of how bosses see employees, and the relationship between corporations and workers.
Dude, you are OUT OF YOUR GOURD.
It's not from 1972, that coinage act is from 1792. We have since moved away from the gold or silver standard. You know, somewhere in 200+ years since. Also, I believe the price of gold and silver have fluctuated since then. Just a little bit.
Now, onlookers and all, please notice the political stance of the OutOfGourdian. Please note how ball-to-the-walls wrong he is. If you could associate one with the other on later dates and not mode him to +4 insightful, that would be appreciated
Suprised to see E.T. nominated.
I guess even satanists get to vote.
HAXS!
Imagine if there was no FDR, the recession of 1929 could go the route of the recession of 1921 and there would be no public projects and no Great Depression (which is not going to seem so great once the current one really hits with the debt and currency crisis).
Which just shows that you're out of your gourd.
You're just a fear-mongering conservative trying to push your agenda, or have succumb to that ilk. Who modded this up?
Yeah, and then the world economy collapsed. When shit starts to fall apart, the weakest links break first. We find where the bubbles are. Everything takes a hit and our economies cool down. Enough so that oil demand slacks off too. But oil is assuredly going to go back up. Until the next bubble.
This is going to be a pretty viscous cycle for a little while until a) There are no more real bubbles and everything is priced more or less accordingly, b) the economy doesn't cool in the downtime. Then the rising price of oil is REALLY going to tighten belts. Like, I'm going to have to finally get that electric car.
So they decided that for all videogames throughout time, there are four and only four genres. They are Action, Adventure, "Target*", and Combat/Strategy...
And for each of these we shall choose one per console system. (Oh, and I guess one for old PCs and one for new PCs).
OK, wtf is the "target" genre? Is that like the proto shoot-em-up? One in which you destroy targets?
And why is Portal competing with the gamecube?
And while it's pretty cool that Minecraft made the list, Combat/Strategy? Huh?
Clearly this was put together by someone who simply isn't a gamer. Which is kinda surprising. I mean, this has been mainstream for a while now. You'd think that someone like the Smithsonian would be able to organize this a little better. Or are they too enshrined to be affected by new cultural trends? Are they really just now noticing that game development is bigger then Hollywood?
No. No, it sill works if it's just you. If you consider everyone to be in your tribe then the inherent tribalism imbued into you by evolution turns into altruism and you do your best to help the entire world rather then just you and your own.
I know your trying your best to turn this into a debate about Communism, or Marxism, or whatever ism you feel like, but fuck you.
Without the hard-drive platter I can't perform my job, make a living, and put food on the table. Nor can I do the majority of the things I do for entertainment, nor can I use my primary learning tool to better myself .(But by god I'd rig up something to boot from a flash-drive as fast as possible).
The iron in the hard drive is part of the natural lithosphere cycle. As the tectonic plates move and crush and reform, the iron will be taken back, melted down, and spread out under new mountain.
(pft, it's as realistic as me turning into farm dirt. We put coffins in sealed containers now you git.)
His sig happens to be 100% true. So lemme get this straight, you consider someone speaking the objective truth (because it it conflicts with your hippie emotion driven thinking) to be unreliable. Worse you judge the merits of arguments based on who makes them? And any sane person should bother reading your scribblings why?
Well his sig is only partly true. The civil war wasn't entirely about ending slavery, and the cold war (and all the proxy wars) isn't what ended soviet communism. Yes, WWII and the US revolution turned out pretty well. They were both horrible things and represent a failure of events leading up to them. It would have been a lot better if we had built up Germany after WWI and if England hadn't of been such dicks. But the outcome of the conflicts was a lot better then the state prior to war. So they're, you know, "good things".
BUT
Let's take his sig at literal face value. Other then those few exceptions, war has INDEED never really solved problems. War makes more problems. War is bad. For BLATANTLY OBVIOUS REASONS. You know, the death, destruction, and retaliation? God knows that Iraq, Vietnam, WWI, and Korea went so well. So his pro-war stance is not based on objective truth, but rather cherry picking rose-tinted bits out of history. But you didn't pick up on that because you didn't think too much about it. How about that?
Oh hey, the laffer curve. You DO realize that "marginal taxes" are not "taxes" and that under our current progressive tax system, it's impossible to get to the point where one is not incentivezed to make more money? It's a nice theory for economic fundamentals, but our system is just a teensy bit more complex then that. Reganomics was built on the idea of billionaires not wanting to make an extra buck. It depends on the rich not being greedy.
Regan's and Bush's tax cuts were also accompanied by ludicrous borrowing. The economy goes great when it's all on credit. For a little while at least.