The US didn't provide resources to start up al Qaida. Al Qaida declared war on the US and was attacking the US for years before it took effective action.
The US DID provide resources to "start up Al Qaeda".
Read up on ol' Zbignew Brzynski. Find out about turning Afghanistan into the "Soviet's Vietnam". That's when Reagan called the Mujaheddin (Taliban) and their Saudi mercs (Al Qaeda) "The Moral Equivalent of Our Founding Fathers".
Really, it's impossible to debate you on the issues, when you don't even have a proper grounding in the basic subject. That's what I mean, when I hurl the pejorative, "Stupid".
Now, go back to your secret admiration for Anders Behring-Breivik, and leave the thinking to those with the proper equipment.
The Taliban has already attempted a bombing in New York City. Thankfully the bombing failed.
It occurs to me, you missed THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT of what I was saying. It's not your fault that you are so stupid. You were raised on sugary drinks and breakfast cereal.
I am saying that sending US troops to go after people who do the crimes you specify in AfPak is equivalent to Taliban unilaterally sending representatives to these shores, in pursuit of meth-lab closure and justice for child-traffickers. Your reasoning isn't just absurd, you are the stupidest jackass on the planet! You can't even respond to the proper criticism, when you are TOO STUPID to understand what was being said.
I close with another brain teaser for you: "If big Government is so bad, why do you want it to chose your enemies and fight your wars?"
Three bananas and I can get my monkey to crack any gesture-based Windows 8 password. And for an additional banana he'll even throw his feces at the screen.
"It was all that Dan Marino's fault, everyone knows that. If he had held the Surface, laces out, like he was supposed to, Ray would never have missed that kick. Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Would you like a cookie, son?"
Man. A reference to the "Snowflake" kidnapping, on Slashdot.
Independent verification, please? Stenography for the claims of Administration figures, without factual evidence to support their claims - this is not reporting. This is not fact.
If you're such a Holder fan, why aren't you backing him on his truthfulness about "Fast and Furious"?
Thank god. The CIA makes SURE that the TRUTH is out there! Like, way, way out there...
In Dec. 2012 it was reported Said al-Shihri, supposedly an "al Qaeda number two", was killed.
It was the third time, according to "official sources", informed by Intelligence, the US reported they'd killed him
And another Three-fer was Abu Yahya al-Libi, which the US claimed to have killed 2 times before they yet again claimed to have killed him in June 2012.
Damn! This US intelligence is SO GOOD it kills "Al Qaeda" guys THREE TIMES!
Should Afghans be at liberty to send troops on the US soil, to launch military strikes at American criminals? Because, as far as I can tell, that's the next logical step of the argument you seem to be making. Or is might=right?
Designed to create the belief: 1 - Intelligence intercepts and interrogations are effective at getting information that "protects" "us". 2 - Drones are an effective weapon against "our" "enemies" and not principally dangerous to villagers and local civic functions.
But WHY do you believe ANY public information from an agency that has DECEIT in its charter?
You believe that there are "uncivilized" regions, that can only be brought to heel or to modernity through military violence? You think killing villages of innocents is merely being realistic?
Then: A - You have a funny definition of "civilized" - if you apply that label to your position B - Be no more strident in this advocacy, than you are willing to volunteer for front-lines
When I continue to press this argument to logical conclusion, I am branded extremist. But it is not extreme to insist this: "If you believe it is a necessity to kill women and children for the good of society, then you should be the one doing it."
Elop's return to MS is like Bizarro-world version of Jobs return from NeXT to Apple. He'll be CEO as MS in a year, and watch it plummet into the abyss, instead of define the new azimuth.
Will he be the one to break up MS? Who knows. It's long overdue. One of those businesses could possibly excel....
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The US didn't provide resources to start up al Qaida. Al Qaida declared war on the US and was attacking the US for years before it took effective action.
The US DID provide resources to "start up Al Qaeda".
Read up on ol' Zbignew Brzynski. Find out about turning Afghanistan into the "Soviet's Vietnam". That's when Reagan called the Mujaheddin (Taliban) and their Saudi mercs (Al Qaeda) "The Moral Equivalent of Our Founding Fathers".
Really, it's impossible to debate you on the issues, when you don't even have a proper grounding in the basic subject. That's what I mean, when I hurl the pejorative, "Stupid".
Now, go back to your secret admiration for Anders Behring-Breivik, and leave the thinking to those with the proper equipment.
The Taliban has already attempted a bombing in New York City. Thankfully the bombing failed.
It occurs to me, you missed THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT of what I was saying. It's not your fault that you are so stupid. You were raised on sugary drinks and breakfast cereal.
I am saying that sending US troops to go after people who do the crimes you specify in AfPak is equivalent to Taliban unilaterally sending representatives to these shores, in pursuit of meth-lab closure and justice for child-traffickers. Your reasoning isn't just absurd, you are the stupidest jackass on the planet! You can't even respond to the proper criticism, when you are TOO STUPID to understand what was being said.
I close with another brain teaser for you: "If big Government is so bad, why do you want it to chose your enemies and fight your wars?"
My boss hates it when we do that.
You STILL workin' for Ballmer!??!
Three bananas and I can get my monkey to crack any gesture-based Windows 8 password. And for an additional banana he'll even throw his feces at the screen.
Windows 8?
Who DOESN'T throw their feces at the screen?
That's why I bought a Saturn.
Yeah, but Microsoft has Uranus.
You must have very long legs!
Need 'em, for my 7-league boots!
"It was all that Dan Marino's fault, everyone knows that. If he had held the Surface, laces out, like he was supposed to, Ray would never have missed that kick. Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Would you like a cookie, son?"
Man. A reference to the "Snowflake" kidnapping, on Slashdot.
Who'da' thunk?
Exactly. Langner has a framework that will prevent your friendly neighborhood TLA from webcrawling through infrastructure at will.
NIST will ensure the backdoor is - if not unlocked - has a key, under the mat.
As you run up to kick the thing from 25 yards?
Here are the people that Obomber and Kerry want to help with their Raytheon Cruise Missiles.
Independent verification, please? Stenography for the claims of Administration figures, without factual evidence to support their claims - this is not reporting. This is not fact.
If you're such a Holder fan, why aren't you backing him on his truthfulness about "Fast and Furious"?
(Sound of head exploding)
You live in a dreamworld - populated by State Dept phantoms and CIA-fed ghost chasers.
If what you say weren't a farcical, Emmanuel Goldstein fiction, then maybe if "we" didn't kill their babies, they'd stay at home?
Your "Pakistani General" knows what side his bread is buttered on, and who pays for the higher-priced spread.
He may as well be on US payroll: http://gauhar.com/?p=2455
Thank god. The CIA makes SURE that the TRUTH is out there! Like, way, way out there...
In Dec. 2012 it was reported Said al-Shihri, supposedly an "al Qaeda number two", was killed.
It was the third time, according to "official sources", informed by Intelligence, the US reported they'd killed him
And another Three-fer was Abu Yahya al-Libi, which the US claimed to have killed 2 times before they yet again claimed to have killed him in June 2012.
Damn! This US intelligence is SO GOOD it kills "Al Qaeda" guys THREE TIMES!
Should Afghans be at liberty to send troops on the US soil, to launch military strikes at American criminals? Because, as far as I can tell, that's the next logical step of the argument you seem to be making. Or is might=right?
"Al Qaeda" is a term of convenience. The Libyan "rebels" were 70+ % Jihadi "Al Qaeda".
The Syrian "opposition" is 80+ % "Al Qaeda" - funded by Qatar and Saudi, for the same regional purposes, with a generous assist from these CIA heroes, that you rush to defend.
http://syriareport.net/fsa-al-qaeda-fighting-under-the-one-flag/
http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782
http://rt.com/news/qaeda-militants-kill-fsa-commander-979/
They laugh at your ignorance, and they count on it.
Designed to create the belief:
1 - Intelligence intercepts and interrogations are effective at getting information that "protects" "us".
2 - Drones are an effective weapon against "our" "enemies" and not principally dangerous to villagers and local civic functions.
But WHY do you believe ANY public information from an agency that has DECEIT in its charter?
Just an alternative gloss, of the same POV. Not an argument or contradiction. Amplification of one aspect.
That's why I keep pushing these guys:
You believe that there are "uncivilized" regions, that can only be brought to heel or to modernity through military violence?
You think killing villages of innocents is merely being realistic?
Then:
A - You have a funny definition of "civilized" - if you apply that label to your position
B - Be no more strident in this advocacy, than you are willing to volunteer for front-lines
When I continue to press this argument to logical conclusion, I am branded extremist. But it is not extreme to insist this: "If you believe it is a necessity to kill women and children for the good of society, then you should be the one doing it."
I don't care what you say.
Microsoft eats anus juice.
Just like... Beluzzo ruining SGI.
Elop's return to MS is like Bizarro-world version of Jobs return from NeXT to Apple. He'll be CEO as MS in a year, and watch it plummet into the abyss, instead of define the new azimuth.
Will he be the one to break up MS? Who knows. It's long overdue. One of those businesses could possibly excel....
We are all "affiliated" with Al-Qaeda.
"As I walk through my Dupedom..."
"because the best thing we can do is smash our own Honeypot"
Yeaah. From the Ministry of Truth. Tell me another one.
Who benefits from this story? "OOOOHHH! Snowden uncovered SCARY MUSLIMS!"
Only stupid reactionaries, who still believe Obama is a Communist, and not the tool of a Banking Elite, will fall for something this fake.