The constant struggle to hide transactions and data will continue for many more years I imagine.
Its funny talking to a friend working at Pine Gap about just how easily these agencies bypass so-called cryptography. Its scary really. Given, the techniques used don't always involve finding weaknesses in the design of particular algorithm in question. Still, stuff I thought was safe....isn't.
Not particularly heart-warming stuff. =)
Nevertheless, I have great respect for the brilliant cryptographers out there and what they've done for the industry.
I don't think you read my post did you. You just wrote as though I didn't just say what I said.
You're more than entitled to your opinion on the subject and there are, I believe, elements of truth in your sweeping statements. We'll just have to agree to mostly disagree.
See, I'd beg to differ on that point. I've found installing drivers on my Ubuntu systems as easy as a couple of mouse clicks. Heard of Synaptic? That doesn't mean there is drivers for everything.
Perhaps it would be better if instead of cutting the users off, they were only to educate them. And only with customers who's machines are causing real havoc. I don't want anything to do with an ISP who is constantly monitoring my traffic for 'suspicious' activity.
Maybe its just me. I've installed Win7 on three desktops now and every single one of them was painfully slow. Fresh installs that is.
I'm not just talking about the actual bit where it copies over the files and creates the partitions. I mean just waiting for the DVD to actually start up! Did anyone else find that the DVD took forever to actually get going? And that every single change of screen took about 20 minutes? I installed this on Pentium 4's all the way up to i7's with the very same problems. Getting a new image and DVD didn't help either.
What you describe doesn't sound like magical vodoo fixes to me. You're comparing bad wireless in Linux to worms in Windows? Wait, how is comparing removing a virus across multiple Windows releases the same as fixing a wireless issue in Linux? I'm mystified.
Perhaps I'll explain my understanding of the differences. If your wireless card worked in a previous version of Linux but not in your current version then it is because of one of two issues - 1) the manufacturers of the card have introduced regressions into their Linux driver or 2) the driver has been removed for some bizarre reason. Be assured, it is almost always the former issue. Lack of support, lack of effort, lack of care, lack of brains - whatever it is, it isn't good enough.
Having said that, Linux is still coming into its own. We can't just expect that all manufacturers will sacrifice their efforts on a small percentage of the 'average user' market. It isn't feasible given current business models and ways of thinking.
This is why the culture shift in the way business approach development is so crucial. Open source is like a loud minority, it will keep pushing for reform until the results appear. I'm of the opinion that this is only going to be a good thing for the industry and for the end user. I enjoy freedom just like the next guy.
Yeah, true. I came at that example from the wrong angle.
Even so, DRM has hardly proved to be implemented invisibly in the past. This mostly comes to light through the many problems DRM implementations have had. I cannot see how that is going to change.
Bullcrap. Your premise is all up the creek. Telecom companies are not going to upgrade their infrastructure just because the music industry wants DRM everywhere. This has never happened in the past and it will not happen in the future. You're basically saying that the only reason that Telecoms are going to upgrade their networks is because they have deliberately increased the traffic themselves, not because of demand?!?!?
If this technology is getting implemented invisibly then why did it make front page news on slashdot?? Phail. Not even Echelon has been implemented invisibly.
Are you really telling us that because some people download pirated material we are not going to get any service upgrades? If not then why do you equate having phones without DRM with a free life in squalor?
Lastly, why on earth do you think that this isn't going to cause problems? DRM has caused major disruptions everywhere else it has been implemented. Do you think the Japs have the miracle fix for DRM that the rest of the world has been missing?
That's a bit depressing to hear. I must disagree with you however. I don't think that you should just frame the Linux community by the Slashdot crowd - I also know many Linux users and advocates. Very few of them act in the way the OP describes. Given, some do - but they are the definite minority. If you want a little peek into what the Open Source community is really like then I suggest you go take a look at this link and then come back and tell me what you think. This is what really goes on.
Its fun, vibrant and interesting - I can attest to that. Please don't listen to angsty adolescents spouting stuff because it gives them credibility in their silly little circles. The real community is a blessing. I love it.
You're absolutely right. You know how the Win7 RC's are going to be shutting down mid next year unless you get a licence? Yes, yes......I think I see their plan.
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The constant struggle to hide transactions and data will continue for many more years I imagine.
Its funny talking to a friend working at Pine Gap about just how easily these agencies bypass so-called cryptography. Its scary really. Given, the techniques used don't always involve finding weaknesses in the design of particular algorithm in question. Still, stuff I thought was safe....isn't.
Not particularly heart-warming stuff. =)
Nevertheless, I have great respect for the brilliant cryptographers out there and what they've done for the industry.
I don't think you read my post did you. You just wrote as though I didn't just say what I said.
You're more than entitled to your opinion on the subject and there are, I believe, elements of truth in your sweeping statements. We'll just have to agree to mostly disagree.
you're all anonymous cowards, all your arguments are void and null.
See, I'd beg to differ on that point. I've found installing drivers on my Ubuntu systems as easy as a couple of mouse clicks. Heard of Synaptic? That doesn't mean there is drivers for everything.
Ok, I'm still really confused. How does killing processes and 'removing the startup' have anything to do with driver installations?
??
Kill the process, remove the startup?1?! What are you talking about?
Correct. There is a fine line to be drawn.
Perhaps it would be better if instead of cutting the users off, they were only to educate them. And only with customers who's machines are causing real havoc. I don't want anything to do with an ISP who is constantly monitoring my traffic for 'suspicious' activity.
Maybe its just me. I've installed Win7 on three desktops now and every single one of them was painfully slow. Fresh installs that is.
I'm not just talking about the actual bit where it copies over the files and creates the partitions. I mean just waiting for the DVD to actually start up! Did anyone else find that the DVD took forever to actually get going? And that every single change of screen took about 20 minutes? I installed this on Pentium 4's all the way up to i7's with the very same problems. Getting a new image and DVD didn't help either.
What you describe doesn't sound like magical vodoo fixes to me. You're comparing bad wireless in Linux to worms in Windows? Wait, how is comparing removing a virus across multiple Windows releases the same as fixing a wireless issue in Linux? I'm mystified.
Perhaps I'll explain my understanding of the differences. If your wireless card worked in a previous version of Linux but not in your current version then it is because of one of two issues - 1) the manufacturers of the card have introduced regressions into their Linux driver or 2) the driver has been removed for some bizarre reason. Be assured, it is almost always the former issue. Lack of support, lack of effort, lack of care, lack of brains - whatever it is, it isn't good enough.
Having said that, Linux is still coming into its own. We can't just expect that all manufacturers will sacrifice their efforts on a small percentage of the 'average user' market. It isn't feasible given current business models and ways of thinking.
This is why the culture shift in the way business approach development is so crucial. Open source is like a loud minority, it will keep pushing for reform until the results appear. I'm of the opinion that this is only going to be a good thing for the industry and for the end user. I enjoy freedom just like the next guy.
Both work on Linux.... was that a joke that I missed?
Yeah, true. I came at that example from the wrong angle.
Even so, DRM has hardly proved to be implemented invisibly in the past. This mostly comes to light through the many problems DRM implementations have had. I cannot see how that is going to change.
Bullcrap. Your premise is all up the creek. Telecom companies are not going to upgrade their infrastructure just because the music industry wants DRM everywhere. This has never happened in the past and it will not happen in the future. You're basically saying that the only reason that Telecoms are going to upgrade their networks is because they have deliberately increased the traffic themselves, not because of demand?!?!?
If this technology is getting implemented invisibly then why did it make front page news on slashdot?? Phail. Not even Echelon has been implemented invisibly.
Are you really telling us that because some people download pirated material we are not going to get any service upgrades? If not then why do you equate having phones without DRM with a free life in squalor?
Lastly, why on earth do you think that this isn't going to cause problems? DRM has caused major disruptions everywhere else it has been implemented. Do you think the Japs have the miracle fix for DRM that the rest of the world has been missing?
Why do they need a software project? All they really need is the community. Embrace it, extend it, then extinguish it. Simple.
I'm getting really sick of people using the stupid 'Whoosh' meme to cover their a$$.
Protecting their two biggest revenue streams is incentive enough to use the tried and tested EEE tactic.
FOOL! You're NOT supposed to PROVIDE THE FIX!!!!!!!!
I can already see the script-kiddy whordes descending on your post!!!!!
That's a bit depressing to hear. I must disagree with you however. I don't think that you should just frame the Linux community by the Slashdot crowd - I also know many Linux users and advocates. Very few of them act in the way the OP describes. Given, some do - but they are the definite minority. If you want a little peek into what the Open Source community is really like then I suggest you go take a look at this link and then come back and tell me what you think. This is what really goes on.
http://www.kdenews.org/2009/09/08/third-plasma-summit-lifts-kde-desktop-higher-grounds
Its fun, vibrant and interesting - I can attest to that. Please don't listen to angsty adolescents spouting stuff because it gives them credibility in their silly little circles. The real community is a blessing. I love it.
You're absolutely right. You know how the Win7 RC's are going to be shutting down mid next year unless you get a licence? Yes, yes......I think I see their plan.
Agreed. The POC even bolds the line that needs changing. Its just script-kiddy proofing.
who do you think you are? Ten and Teen sound completely different. Not even Kath and Kim get it that wrong.
Snacking makes me sleepy. I'm a napper.
Dude, seriously. That was a pretty corny joke.
sorry mate, I've bitten. A Good Troll is a bad human.
Slight correction to your equation:
(revenue - expenses) = profit??
Until you've measured the subject, you won't have a result. Quite like quantum superpositioning
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