Half the articles here I've read before they're here....so much for a 'good' news...
You're bitching because you were already aware of the mechanical monkey hoax? Well, not all of us read the same boards, bucko -- for some of us, this is still extremely important news. You know, "Stuff that matters?"
Never, ever, ever run your compiler as root. Ever. On any system. If your distribution requires it, throw your distribution away. It was made by someone with no concern for security. God only knows what other bone-headed things they've done.
Here's a better plan. Uninstall your compiler from your production systems. If you ever need to re-install it, for any reason, then you're an incompentent moron. Do your boss (and the rest of us) a huge favor, and quit your job. At McDonalds, even -- you're too stupid to even work there, and will probably set yourself on fire someday.
There was a war? And medals were given out? I missed it. Someone should have called me. Because, see, I like wars. You know what I say to wars? "I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." Imagine me starting to jump up and down, and yelling, "KILL, KILL." Why, you'd be jumpin up and down with me and we'd both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL."
At least, that's what I'd do if there was a War. Where can I sign up for the next one, 'cuz I really want some of them medals.
But, see, there's this whole pile of garbage in the back of my red VW Microbus I gotta get rid of before I have time for all this war stuff. Do you suppose the dump is open on Thanksgiving?
Better how? Increase ad revenue? Reduce the cost of running the site? Meaningfully improve the value of the site a spinoff business unit?
As a shareholder, how is improving the story submission queue going to improve VA Linux's stock price? It won't. It'll only give the readers (read: product to be sold to the real customers (read: advertisers)) one less thing to be pissed off about. And, to be honest, I think at this point most readers look at slashdot for the same reason people rubber neck at car wrecks. Fixing slashdot would be like carting away the broken cars and sweeping the glass and oil off the sidewalks. It would take away all the fun, and no-one would bother stopping by anymore.
I'll one more, very important, link to the mix. You can read the abstract for free. Reading the paper itself is not free, unless you count going to your local university library for the dead tree copy as free. Before anyone else comments on the science behind this, please at least read the abstract, and hopefully have the knowledge to pass at least one introductory statistics course.
I honestly can't think of a single advantage this would give a business. If you don't have a sysadmin who is experienced enough with Linux to slap linux on quickly, then I can't imagine your cost of ownership would go down by using linux. And, laugh all you want, but if you're going to run linux anyhow, I can't see much advantage to the apple hardware.
Why not go pick up some Suns and run linux on those, instead?
If I understood the article correctly, jet contrails, locally counteract global warming, shifting the temperature down 1.8 degrees centigrade.
Nope. You read it wrong. They compared the difference in temperature between night and day. The existence of jet contrails are correlated to a smaller difference in temperature -- presumably, the days were cooler, and the nights were warmer than normal.
The idea is that sunlight bounces off the top of the contrails during the day, and reflects back into space. Thus, less energy is added to the environment during the day, which means that the jets have the immediate effect of cooling the earth, but only during the day.
However, the heat radiated up from the ground also gets reflected right back to the ground, just as if you'd put a big blanket over the earth. This has the effect of generally warming the earth, during both day and night.
So, there are all sorts of questions which are, hopefully, outside the scope of an article like this. I'm not sure, because I've only read the brief linked writeup, not the real paper published in Nature. Reading the paper costs money to read, and I'm cheap.
The questions I immediately have is: do the contrails have the net effect of increasing or decreasing the total amount of energy stored in the earths environment, i.e., do they actaually cool or warm the earth? Which has a bigger effect -- the light reflecting off the top and into space, or the heat reflected back onto the surface? What are the magnitudes of each of these effects across different seasons? What are the effects across different regions of the world? What effect does this actually have on the climate -- rainfall patterns, regional mean termperatures, or regional temperature variance.
Who are you agreeing with? No-one claimed they're bad. They only claimed there was an effect.
how can you assume this was caused by the absence of the contrails?
I haven't paid the money to read the real article (instead of the brief writeup), but I have to assume that they don't say that contrails caused this. That's the sort of thing clueless AP reporters and Slashdot "editors" do, not scientists. The article probably says something, "Here is a measurement. Here is the statistical significance of the correlation between changes in this measurement and 9/11. Here is a possible explanation for this correlation. The end."
Wouldn't you need to be able to repeat the experiment several times before you could rule out a fluke?
No, of course not. You should take an introductory statistics class, where this kind of stuff is explained more clearly. You can never rule it out as a fluke, no matter how many experiments you do. The best you can ever do is state the probability that it was a fluke. You can even state the probability when you get a sample size of one. I'm assuming that they've done exactly that in the real article, but again, I haven't paid to read it.
Now, of course the fact that the expirament is not easily repeatable does create a conundrum. Even if they did get a result with, say, p < 0.05, it's impossible for us to know how many researchers tried how many dozens (or even hundreds) of different measurements before finding a statistically significant one. If the scientific communinity, as a body, went fishing for data after the event, it's pretty much assured that they're going to find something statistically significant to report on, along with a bunch of stuff which is not statistically signficant. By the very nature of a peer-review journal like Nature, it's a given that the non-statistically significant stuff simply won't get published, and thus not show up on Slashdot's doorstep...
How long will it be before executives and investors finally realize that the only people making money... are the lawyers?
Do you remember the old story about the two guys who get being chased by a bear? The first guy sits down, ruffles through his bag, pulls out a pair of running shoes, and starts to put them on. The second guy asks, "What the hell are you doing? You can't outrun a bear!" The first guy replies, "I don't have to outrun the bear. I have to outrun you."
To win, media companies only have to do two things: first, become the most successful of the existing media companies, and second, raise the entry barrier so high that no other media companies can come into the picture and compete.
Of course, this is EMI's way of raising the entry barrier higher. I imagine the story submitter found this to be a "good thing" because he can't imagine himself as a content producer himself. More artificial restrictions on the people who create thing won't affect him in any way, because he knows he's never going to create anything anyhow.
I remember many years ago reading in an article in a classical journal that Julius Caesar's last words weren't really "Et tu, Brute" but the Greek "Kai su, teknon", meaning something like "And you'll be getting yours before long, son".
I imagine in the bizarro world of Slashdot, bad cases which bring bad law are somehow good for the rest of us. But I fail to see how thickening the legal morass surrounding licensing is going to bring us to a better world. Being a part of the hoard standing around while Ceaser goes down doesn't mean there won't be plenty to smack us with too, before long.
The first rule of slashdot is you don't talk about slashdot.
The second rule of slashdot is you don't talk about slashdot.
Taco drives a nicer car than you. He smokes better doobage, too. That proves that this site is good enough. There's no reason for them to figure out how to make it better, when it's already good enough.
You are only a mediocre troll. You make it so obvious to everyone that you're a troll, you're just giving trolls a really bad name, without contributing anything original to the great art of trolling. You should spend more time reading the work of the real trolls, like CmdrTaco. If you're not going to really work at trolling, you should just give up.
You know, you've posted a nearly identical response to several messages on this board. Your use of the word "Silly" in a paragraph all by itself makes it very clear that you are a homosexual. Your total failure to understand that the slashdot article itself was incorrect, and not the posters you're replying too, makes it very clear that you're pretty stupid. Your derision of firewire as crappy and slow makes it clear that you're compensating for your own inadequacies. Clearly, you have a tiny penis.
So, Mr. Tiny-Penis-Stupid-Homosexual-Man, I have a question for you. Why do you display such hostility towards Apple? Are you unhappy that most Apple hardware is clearly marketed towards the Large-Penis-Smart-Homosexual-Man demographic? Did you once go to an Apple user group meeting, but get laughed at because you were wearing bad shoes or had a bad haircut? Or did you did you feel wholy inadequate at the end of the meeting, when everyone started to show show the group their favorite "photoshop filters?"
Can you shed some light on this? Since the Apple is clearly the "gay" computer, and you're clearly a "gay" dude, why are you so hostile towards Apple? Is your animosity more closely related to your sub-standard IQ, or your sub-standard penis size?
You're correct, of course. I was overreacting in my post. C++ templates are one way to do generic programming. The guy managed to string a bunch of loosely related buzzwords together in a nonsense paragraph -- CLOS, Dylan, multi-dispatch, generic functions, templates, generic programming, and C++. I gladly took his bait, picked a few of the charged up words he so kindly provided, and started frothing at the mouth.
I could talk for rant for days and days about generic programming. Heck, I could rant for days about just about any of the topics JTDUBS has provided for us. I wouldn't make any sense during any of the rantings, especially when constrained to the limitations of a forum like slashdot. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what JTDUBS had in mind, too. Either that, or he really is a clueless wank. With the best-crafted trolls, it's almost impossible to tell the difference.
In general, in computers, closure is a good thing. Ask any functional programmer.
Your point would be stronger if you explained that the definition of "closure" you're using is entirely different than the definition of "closures" used by functional programmers.
What you want is generic methods with multiple-dispatch. Look at Lisp's CLOS, or Dylan.
I must be dense, but I don't have a clue how C++ templates are related to generic methods, or to multi-dispatch. C++ templates are truly hideous, but the ideas inherited by most "generics" implementions in Java compilers I've looked at haven't looked too bad.
Explain? How can you write a Non-OO program in a Pure-OO language? Cause, you see, it's not possible
Aighhhh!!! I've been trolled!!!! I've replied to a fucking troll! God damn it! Fuckity Fuck! Now, I'm going to have to cover myself in leaches, to get rid of all the bad blood that's coursing through my body! I hate it when I reply to trolls!
Get past them? They chose it! This is the kind of crap they like to read, bucko. This had better be the kind of crap you like to read, too, if you're going to keep reading this site. If it's not, you should just go find a site where the editors aren't a bunch of fucking morons. You know, sites with a real focus on accuracy and editing, like daily rotten, The NY Times, or The Onion.
I know this is offtopic, but I have to ask this anyhow.
None of your replies in this forum have displayed the same disquieting grammar that your story submission did. Clearly, you're a reasonably intelligent dude. So what happened to the story? Were you drunk, or is english not your first language, or did you just flip the first comma into a period, or what?
Sure, they'll pester you about it, but if you are firm in your refusal they have to do without it.
You know, they probably don't have to give you electricity, phone, or gas service. You can pester them about it, but if they're firm in their refusal, you'll just have to do without it. If someone at the local electric co. decides not to give you electricity without your SSN, you're probably free to use a different electric company. And they're free to get new customers.
You know... the new customer who moves into your old house after you've frozen to death.
Would you pay to watch Randy Waterhouse eat a bowl of Cap'n Crunch?
Dude, Cap'n Crunch musta been a famous hacker back in the 70's! I bet he's in his 50's by now. There's no way I wanna see him eaten by anyone, much less a guy named Randy.
I have no real problem with "feet per second" as a measurement. But, out of the hundreds of articles that Timothy gets to choose from every day, he picked one that:
1. Linked to a video, 2. Was written poorly enough to be nearly incomprehensible, and 3. Called 9 fps "moving along pretty well."
Slashdot Mirror
Half the articles here I've read before they're here....so much for a 'good' news...
You're bitching because you were already aware of the mechanical monkey hoax? Well, not all of us read the same boards, bucko -- for some of us, this is still extremely important news. You know, "Stuff that matters?"
You == dumb ass.
Never, ever, ever run your compiler as root. Ever. On any system. If your distribution requires it, throw your distribution away. It was made by someone with no concern for security. God only knows what other bone-headed things they've done.
Here's a better plan. Uninstall your compiler from your production systems. If you ever need to re-install it, for any reason, then you're an incompentent moron. Do your boss (and the rest of us) a huge favor, and quit your job. At McDonalds, even -- you're too stupid to even work there, and will probably set yourself on fire someday.
People were convinced the world was flat at one point too.
Umm... when did people believe this? I'm pretty sure most educated folks have believed the world is round for the last 2,500 years...
http://www.google.com/search?q=usb+maximum+cable+l ength+specification
e
http://www.google.com/search?q=usb+extension+cabl
At least, that's what I'd do if there was a War. Where can I sign up for the next one, 'cuz I really want some of them medals.
But, see, there's this whole pile of garbage in the back of my red VW Microbus I gotta get rid of before I have time for all this war stuff. Do you suppose the dump is open on Thanksgiving?
Better how? Increase ad revenue? Reduce the cost of running the site? Meaningfully improve the value of the site a spinoff business unit?
As a shareholder, how is improving the story submission queue going to improve VA Linux's stock price? It won't. It'll only give the readers (read: product to be sold to the real customers (read: advertisers)) one less thing to be pissed off about. And, to be honest, I think at this point most readers look at slashdot for the same reason people rubber neck at car wrecks. Fixing slashdot would be like carting away the broken cars and sweeping the glass and oil off the sidewalks. It would take away all the fun, and no-one would bother stopping by anymore.
When slashdot selected the same story just three short days ago, they also linked to an NPR story and a blurb on the nature website.
I'll one more, very important, link to the mix. You can read the abstract for free. Reading the paper itself is not free, unless you count going to your local university library for the dead tree copy as free. Before anyone else comments on the science behind this, please at least read the abstract, and hopefully have the knowledge to pass at least one introductory statistics course.
Oh, and, btw, I won't answer any other "anonymous coward" post, if you want to express your ideas, do it as a man.
Please post your name, address, and telephone number. Would you prefer to hold this discussion through post, phone, or face to face?
but buisnesses benifit here
I honestly can't think of a single advantage this would give a business. If you don't have a sysadmin who is experienced enough with Linux to slap linux on quickly, then I can't imagine your cost of ownership would go down by using linux. And, laugh all you want, but if you're going to run linux anyhow, I can't see much advantage to the apple hardware.
Why not go pick up some Suns and run linux on those, instead?
If I understood the article correctly, jet contrails, locally counteract global warming, shifting the temperature down 1.8 degrees centigrade.
Nope. You read it wrong. They compared the difference in temperature between night and day. The existence of jet contrails are correlated to a smaller difference in temperature -- presumably, the days were cooler, and the nights were warmer than normal.
The idea is that sunlight bounces off the top of the contrails during the day, and reflects back into space. Thus, less energy is added to the environment during the day, which means that the jets have the immediate effect of cooling the earth, but only during the day.
However, the heat radiated up from the ground also gets reflected right back to the ground, just as if you'd put a big blanket over the earth. This has the effect of generally warming the earth, during both day and night.
So, there are all sorts of questions which are, hopefully, outside the scope of an article like this. I'm not sure, because I've only read the brief linked writeup, not the real paper published in Nature. Reading the paper costs money to read, and I'm cheap.
The questions I immediately have is: do the contrails have the net effect of increasing or decreasing the total amount of energy stored in the earths environment, i.e., do they actaually cool or warm the earth? Which has a bigger effect -- the light reflecting off the top and into space, or the heat reflected back onto the surface? What are the magnitudes of each of these effects across different seasons? What are the effects across different regions of the world? What effect does this actually have on the climate -- rainfall patterns, regional mean termperatures, or regional temperature variance.
I could agree that contrails are bad
Who are you agreeing with? No-one claimed they're bad. They only claimed there was an effect.
how can you assume this was caused by the absence of the contrails?
I haven't paid the money to read the real article (instead of the brief writeup), but I have to assume that they don't say that contrails caused this. That's the sort of thing clueless AP reporters and Slashdot "editors" do, not scientists. The article probably says something, "Here is a measurement. Here is the statistical significance of the correlation between changes in this measurement and 9/11. Here is a possible explanation for this correlation. The end."
Wouldn't you need to be able to repeat the experiment several times before you could rule out a fluke?
No, of course not. You should take an introductory statistics class, where this kind of stuff is explained more clearly. You can never rule it out as a fluke, no matter how many experiments you do. The best you can ever do is state the probability that it was a fluke. You can even state the probability when you get a sample size of one. I'm assuming that they've done exactly that in the real article, but again, I haven't paid to read it.
Now, of course the fact that the expirament is not easily repeatable does create a conundrum. Even if they did get a result with, say, p < 0.05, it's impossible for us to know how many researchers tried how many dozens (or even hundreds) of different measurements before finding a statistically significant one. If the scientific communinity, as a body, went fishing for data after the event, it's pretty much assured that they're going to find something statistically significant to report on, along with a bunch of stuff which is not statistically signficant. By the very nature of a peer-review journal like Nature, it's a given that the non-statistically significant stuff simply won't get published, and thus not show up on Slashdot's doorstep...
How long will it be before executives and investors finally realize that the only people making money... are the lawyers?
Do you remember the old story about the two guys who get being chased by a bear? The first guy sits down, ruffles through his bag, pulls out a pair of running shoes, and starts to put them on. The second guy asks, "What the hell are you doing? You can't outrun a bear!" The first guy replies, "I don't have to outrun the bear. I have to outrun you."
To win, media companies only have to do two things: first, become the most successful of the existing media companies, and second, raise the entry barrier so high that no other media companies can come into the picture and compete.
Of course, this is EMI's way of raising the entry barrier higher. I imagine the story submitter found this to be a "good thing" because he can't imagine himself as a content producer himself. More artificial restrictions on the people who create thing won't affect him in any way, because he knows he's never going to create anything anyhow.
I imagine in the bizarro world of Slashdot, bad cases which bring bad law are somehow good for the rest of us. But I fail to see how thickening the legal morass surrounding licensing is going to bring us to a better world. Being a part of the hoard standing around while Ceaser goes down doesn't mean there won't be plenty to smack us with too, before long.
The first rule of slashdot is you don't talk about slashdot.
The second rule of slashdot is you don't talk about slashdot.
Taco drives a nicer car than you. He smokes better doobage, too. That proves that this site is good enough. There's no reason for them to figure out how to make it better, when it's already good enough.
I am eliminating all 24 of my posts. Only 48 minutes left!
You are only a mediocre troll. You make it so obvious to everyone that you're a troll, you're just giving trolls a really bad name, without contributing anything original to the great art of trolling. You should spend more time reading the work of the real trolls, like CmdrTaco. If you're not going to really work at trolling, you should just give up.
You know, you've posted a nearly identical response to several messages on this board. Your use of the word "Silly" in a paragraph all by itself makes it very clear that you are a homosexual. Your total failure to understand that the slashdot article itself was incorrect, and not the posters you're replying too, makes it very clear that you're pretty stupid. Your derision of firewire as crappy and slow makes it clear that you're compensating for your own inadequacies. Clearly, you have a tiny penis.
So, Mr. Tiny-Penis-Stupid-Homosexual-Man, I have a question for you. Why do you display such hostility towards Apple? Are you unhappy that most Apple hardware is clearly marketed towards the Large-Penis-Smart-Homosexual-Man demographic? Did you once go to an Apple user group meeting, but get laughed at because you were wearing bad shoes or had a bad haircut? Or did you did you feel wholy inadequate at the end of the meeting, when everyone started to show show the group their favorite "photoshop filters?"
Can you shed some light on this? Since the Apple is clearly the "gay" computer, and you're clearly a "gay" dude, why are you so hostile towards Apple? Is your animosity more closely related to your sub-standard IQ, or your sub-standard penis size?
You're correct, of course. I was overreacting in my post. C++ templates are one way to do generic programming. The guy managed to string a bunch of loosely related buzzwords together in a nonsense paragraph -- CLOS, Dylan, multi-dispatch, generic functions, templates, generic programming, and C++. I gladly took his bait, picked a few of the charged up words he so kindly provided, and started frothing at the mouth.
I could talk for rant for days and days about generic programming. Heck, I could rant for days about just about any of the topics JTDUBS has provided for us. I wouldn't make any sense during any of the rantings, especially when constrained to the limitations of a forum like slashdot. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what JTDUBS had in mind, too. Either that, or he really is a clueless wank. With the best-crafted trolls, it's almost impossible to tell the difference.
In general, in computers, closure is a good thing. Ask any functional programmer.
Your point would be stronger if you explained that the definition of "closure" you're using is entirely different than the definition of "closures" used by functional programmers.
What you want is generic methods with multiple-dispatch. Look at Lisp's CLOS, or Dylan.
I must be dense, but I don't have a clue how C++ templates are related to generic methods, or to multi-dispatch. C++ templates are truly hideous, but the ideas inherited by most "generics" implementions in Java compilers I've looked at haven't looked too bad.
Explain? How can you write a Non-OO program in a Pure-OO language? Cause, you see, it's not possible
Aighhhh!!! I've been trolled!!!! I've replied to a fucking troll! God damn it! Fuckity Fuck! Now, I'm going to have to cover myself in leaches, to get rid of all the bad blood that's coursing through my body! I hate it when I reply to trolls!
How did this get by the /. editors.
Get past them? They chose it! This is the kind of crap they like to read, bucko. This had better be the kind of crap you like to read, too, if you're going to keep reading this site. If it's not, you should just go find a site where the editors aren't a bunch of fucking morons. You know, sites with a real focus on accuracy and editing, like daily rotten, The NY Times, or The Onion.
I know this is offtopic, but I have to ask this anyhow.
None of your replies in this forum have displayed the same disquieting grammar that your story submission did. Clearly, you're a reasonably intelligent dude. So what happened to the story? Were you drunk, or is english not your first language, or did you just flip the first comma into a period, or what?
Sure, they'll pester you about it, but if you are firm in your refusal they have to do without it.
You know, they probably don't have to give you electricity, phone, or gas service. You can pester them about it, but if they're firm in their refusal, you'll just have to do without it. If someone at the local electric co. decides not to give you electricity without your SSN, you're probably free to use a different electric company. And they're free to get new customers.
You know... the new customer who moves into your old house after you've frozen to death.
Would you pay to watch Randy Waterhouse eat a bowl of Cap'n Crunch?
Dude, Cap'n Crunch musta been a famous hacker back in the 70's! I bet he's in his 50's by now. There's no way I wanna see him eaten by anyone, much less a guy named Randy.
That's just gross.
I have no real problem with "feet per second" as a measurement. But, out of the hundreds of articles that Timothy gets to choose from every day, he picked one that:
1. Linked to a video,
2. Was written poorly enough to be nearly incomprehensible, and
3. Called 9 fps "moving along pretty well."