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Transatlantic Model Airplane Flight to Begin Shortly
dtmos writes "An update on this old story -- Maynard Hill's attempt to fly an 11-lb. model airplane across the Atlantic (from Newfoundland to Ireland) is due to begin tomorrow night, Newfoundland time. This would be the first transatlantic flight by a true model under FAI rules (this plane was too large to qualify). News and updates, background information, some technical info."
costs with an 11lb payload (including weight of plane)...unless perhaps its carrying heroin. Still, i`m sure evil bearded terrorists are watching this with great interest...
...he's in the General Services department at National Geographic (and a better code and hardware hacker, in all senses of the word, than anyone in our IS group). This guy's spent months trying to build a GPS that would fit on your watch face.
/. and to cap it all off, who's doing a TV special about it? Discovery. Ain't that a swift kick in the crotch.
The funny thing here is that he went to NG to offer them coverage - he wasn't looking for funding or anything - and they declined, saying there wouldn't be enough interest. Well now it's in the Post, it's on
Congrats, Foster - clear skies =)
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Here Looks very cool!
And don't even get me started on the inadequacy of the power source to last that long. Crazy dreamer.
I'm continually stunned by what mankind can accomplish in this day and age. A century ago, crossing the Atlantic meant going by steamship. A century before that it meant sailing, and hoping you weren't boarded by pirates. A few centuries before that it was impossible! Now we can do it with a model airplane; what next?
This is truly a technological tour de force. If anyone has any doubts as to the future of humanity, I suggest they need look no further. We are thriving, healthy, and accomplishing more than any species ever has before. I would do anything to see what we'll do a century from now...hey, if things keep going as well as they have been, I might still be around!
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As the airplane approaches Spain... Air Traffic controller: "Unidentified plane, identify yourself" Air traffic controller turns to coworkers, "This can't be a plane it's too small, what's going on here." Unidentified Aircraft: "Umm... I just took off from here and I'm coming back to land, I ran into this strange green light and I think I shrunk."
I'm continually stunned by what mankind can accomplish in this day and age. A century ago, crossing the Atlantic meant going by steamship. A century before that it meant sailing, and hoping you weren't boarded by pirates. A few centuries before that it was impossible! Now we can do it with a model airplane; what next?
Ha. I won't be impressed until they can do it with a paper airplane.
>>or imagine what would happen to the United
>>States if someone flew a 1000lb pilotless bomb
>>into the 2002 Oscars!
If that ever occurs, you'll find me in the streets dancing with the Palestinians.
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This is important how?
Is some great scientific breakthrough being made?
What are the implications and how can this be used in the future?
for the environment! Smaller planes is less polution!
It's not that amazing. The blasted thing is a model plane... still uses fuel, still can fly on its own accord. Wow...
Call me when they do the first transatlantic paperplane.
And don't cheat and use a paperclip on the nose.
So seriously, someone tell me why, in 2010 (if not 8 years sooner) drug trafficers won't be using these things around the world for cross-country drug moving? The US coast guard is good at catching planes, but a model plane can fly in anywhere, as is practically "stealth" by comparison (size, noise, heat sig). With GPS worldwide, and even more accurate in USA (due to localized removals of accuracy-blocking) it can land on the beach at 3:00am for a pickup. NUTS!
I hope they remember to wind that rubber band up really really tightly...
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At the risk of sounding like a troll, there are some issues here:
1000lb is a bit more than 11lb, and in fact can be already done. That is why the military have radar, guns and missiles. The clever bit here is that this is very small. Very impressive if it makes it all that way.
What would happen to the US if a bomb did go off at the Oscars? Very little. Yes it would be a disaster/massacre of innocents, but it won't affect the economy like the twin towers attack.
This is not a useful model for any type of private cruise missile. Spy plane, maybe. Secret courier, yep. Heavy weapon, erm...nope.
Have been asking about using this for bombs... Well, the US already has these that carry bombs, we're using them in Afghanistan. As far as this actual plane goes and any citizen trying to use one, it could never carry a bomb. It could, however, carry some sort of airborn biological weapon, but there are numerous examples of how hard it would be to actually hurt someone with a small amount of bio warfare.
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Plus, why would terrorists try to do something like that pilotless? It's higher-tech (meaning harder to acquire and costing more), and (for a while yet) less reliable than a suicidal but reasonably-well-trained human pilot.
:( -- for some time yet.
I don't think we'll see a pilotless terrorist bomb/plane anytime soon -- it'll be crazy guys at the helm of a Cessna -- or a Jetliner
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[NG] declined, saying there wouldn't be enough interest. Well now it's in the Post, it's on /. and to cap it all off, who's doing a TV special about it? Discovery. Ain't that a swift kick in the crotch.
And NG is writing articles, too. Imagine that, NG having to play catch up!
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With all the "good" actors/actresses dead, the MPAA will have to charge us even more money for even worse movies. This would be very tragic indeed.
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Here we go again! Just like the baloonist flew "around the world", we have another fake world record attempt at "crossing the atlantic".
The "around the world" baloon flight was no more than a circle around antarctica.
Traditionally, I think "crossing the atlantic" means crossing THE WHOLE THING. From US east coast, to Europe's west coast. I'm sorry, but Newfoundland to Iceland doesn't cut it. Granted, flying a model plane over that distance is an admirable feat, but I don't think it would qualify for a world record.
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Did anyone notice that all the telemetry data indicates the planes are heading 280 degrees? That's no shortcut to Europe.
Charles Lindburg pilot figureen?
Anyone interesting in getting into model airplanes, esp. the new 'parkflyer' electrics (if you can't stand glow fuel, caster oil 'slimers') should read up at RC Groups - you can get a pretty good flight at the local soccer field with nice, quiet parkflyer electrics. I've just finished something called a Wing-E and it's a ball to fly in my nearby school yard, get's at least 10 minutes of aerobatic fun off one battery charge.
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Well, i guess the next OBVIOUS step is a plane that can cross the Atlantic on nothing but thermals and tailwinds!
I mean, when you can keep an unpowered plane aloft for 36 hours, why not? Well, so far the straight-line distance record is only 226km, but with a GPS autopilot, and a thermal detection unit (get the scientist working on the tube technology immediately!), who knows!
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Span: 9.67 feet
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Length: 5.67 feet
Height: 2 feet
Wing Area: 6.1 square feet
Gross Weight: 28.9 pounds
Cruising Speed: 43 to 55 mph
Range: 1,875 miles
Service Ceiling: 15,000 feet
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Words of wisdom from the site[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/ 08/0805_020805_transatlantic.html#related]:
"If the plane uses too much fuel per hour, the engine will run fine, but they will run out of fuel. If it uses too little, the engine can stall out, and if it does the plane will crash."
What kind of engineer tells this to the audience?
Are you refering to the same ocean water that is causing those nasty rust spots on MIR's quarter panels?
I take it that's not good then?
This article makes me want to drive my radio shack remote control car across the US. All goes well until its run over by a semi.
We already have planes with this capability. Predator/Darkstar can stay aloft for almost a day and have a significantly longer range. Not to mention that they take off and land by themselves and can carry missiles.
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There might even be some rejoicing.
Yes it would be a disaster/massacre of innocents, but it won't affect the economy like the twin towers attack.
More like a massacre of ignorants. Damn Hollywood elites. In fact, it might even help the economy by getting rid of some of those overpaid snobs. The bad part is it probably might not be enough get rid of the MPAA problem.
Where do we send the money for the "51" prize?
I figure it's got to be organized, the competition to send a unmanned R/C plane with a wireless webcam over Area-51 is just too geeky to pass up.
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From the site:
Latest 09:20 EST 8/8/02 -
Last night the launch site at Cape Spear was covered with heavy fog--zero visibility and ceiling zero. Launch has been scrubbed and the team is looking for another opportunity.
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I've got a couple of these Hobby Zone Fighterbird's http://www.hobbyzone.com/fighterbird.html It's lots of fun because there is an IR or some other sort of sensor and transmitter on it so you can dogfight.
A couple friends of mine have 'em too and we've wasted waaaay too many hours 'shooting' each other down.
It's not as advanced as some of the newer park fliers but it sure is easy to fly, cheap, and lots of fun!
If this thing weighs only 11 lbs, including fuel, I'd venture to say it only has 1 to 1.5 gallons of fuel in it, MAX. Now, I don't know much about model aviation and how efficient their engines are, but even with the very light weight, thats quite a distance for that amount of fuel..
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You could equip the RC plane with a bomb and a webcam and one of them wireless network cards and fly it into a political leader from across the Atlantic all while sitting at your computer in your underwear...
Well, they're taking off from Canada, Canadian gov has helped them out by securing the licenses for the flight and they even persuaded Ireland on their behalf to open up their airspace for this (previous model airplane flight had to go further north to Scotland because Ireland refused the license).
And this is the thanks they give? Pfffft!
Finally, the tiny receiver buried inside the plane's fuselage made contact with the guidance satellite orbiting thousands of miles above, and the laptop came to life.
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Mod this up. It's funny. Come on! Is it powered by farts?
Dynamic soaring has just recently come into a practical reality. It is an absolutley insane way to have some fun. http://www.reeseproductions.com/mpegs/QuickTime/LT 1large.html/ QuickTime/LT 1large.html
I have heard some very serious discussion from Joe Wurts about developing Autonomous Dynamic Soaring aircraft able to cross the atlantic, like the albatross.
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because you don't get thermals in the middle of the Atlantic.
Dynamic soaring has just recently come into a practical reality. It is an absolutley insane way to have some fun. http://www.reeseproductions.com/mpegs/QuickTime/LT 1large.html/ QuickTime/LT 1large.html
I have heard some very serious discussion from Joe Wurts about developing Autonomous Dynamic Soaring aircraft able to cross the atlantic, like the albatross.
http://www.reeseproductions.com/mpegs
Once it goes down to -1 nobody can see it to mod it up.
Eat at Joe's.
It seemed a reasonable comparison of this year's factoid with last year's jokette.
Those Mods must be off their Rockers!
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this is useful stuff!
if you go to thier status monitor, it says that the engine is turning 100 rpm, anyone familiar with model "glo" engines knows that this is impossible, these things idle at 2000 rpms. in my helicopter, its got an 8 ounce tank that lasts 6 minutes.
Where do I get the plans to build one of those gliders? That was awesome.
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Another article I read indicated a fuel consumption of about 2 oz. per hour. Using a nominal 40 hr of flying time, 80 oz = .625 gal. Which would be about 3.5 - 4 lb of fuel.
Nice fuel consumption of 1900 miles per 0.625 gal or 3000+ mpg!!!
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Meaning half an hour later, right?
Won't mum be pleased!
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... floating along in his rickety fishing vessel in the North Atlantic hundreds of miles off the coast and probably as far from any other human being when suddenly he looks up and sees....
nnnnneeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......
this little red plane buzzing by.
One of two things will happen. Either he'll jump overboard... or he'll finally give up the sauce.
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Back in the 1990s their was a remote controlled aircraft that did this. It had a two gallon tank on it. In fact you can go to the Boeing Air and Space Museam and see the aircraft on display. I have seen in myself.
This site generally has comments about articles that are posted somewhere else. People usually go read them and then come back to make informed comments about what they read. But somehow you missed that part.
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Now we can lay our own trans-alantic cable.
Looks good on paper at least.
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The site says the launch was delayed due to fog. If the thing is running on GPS-assisted autopilot, what difference does fog make?
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not too shabby either.
The model described in the article isn't any kind of real terrorist threat due to its limited payload capacity and slow speed.
However, that doesn't mean that creating a low cost cruise missile isn't beyond the means of even the smallest terror group or nation.
Check out The Low Cost Cruise Missile for a pointer to where the real danger lies.
Now is the time to bring back the idea of birds carrying letters across the country and stuff. Except you can use model airplanes. Really small ones. Guided by satellite and shit.
So does anyone have any info on the GPS componentry of their craft? I'm interested in different but related projects, but I have a tough time learning about the GPS modules that are available...