It's not just CD medias they're talking about; it's also harddrives and any other digital storage media which the plan to tax here in Denmark.
They plan to make a refund scheme where companies can get the tax refunded if they provide receipts etc., but it's a pay tax first, then get it refunded-kind of scheme. Just adds up to the bureaucracy - I'd think it would cost more to maintain this kind of control than it brings in in revenue.
int main (void) { unsigned long int myvar; printf ("Size of int : %d\n", sizeof (myvar)); exit (0); } [root@localhost/root]# cc -O2 -g -omoks moks.c [root@localhost/root]# file./moks ./moks: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [root@localhost/root]#./moks Size of int : 8 --------------------------------
So.. It obviously works; compiler and everything:-)
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> Did you notice how that was, like, FICTION?! > HELLO! Wake up you Brazilian freaks! I mean aren't you the ones doing those military experiments on people and stuff?
It's very simple: The Brazilian police and military hates competition.
.. it's not worth it. I got one of the first ones that were produced, and the radio link was quite alright - if you were in a radio wave free environment - but most people aren't. I've heard that there's a new version out where this is significantly improved (it actually works now). But the claimed improvement of ergonomics are simply not there. In order to register movement, you have to hold quite tight onto the pen to press the ball in the end down to make it roll, hence you tighten your fingermuscles for as long as you move the pen. It was recently tested by a danish consumer magazine ("Tænk", I think it was), along with several other pointing devices. It wasn't the worst, but it came pretty close, along with mice in the price range of $5-$10. How you like it is of course a matter of taste, but I can in no way recommend it. If you really do not want a mouse, my personal (non-sponsored) recommendation is the Logitech Trackman Marble FX; it feels like wearing a glove - if you stretch your hand in front of you - in a non-turned, relaxed state - and let it drop to the table, that's how the Trackman Marble is handled and is to your wrist. No left-hand version, though..
Yeah, and have it interface to our body. That'd be great, unless your system got cracked - imagine a computer virus that makes you empty your rectum when there's more than 50 people in a 100 feet radius around you. Nice.
I wondered about those 200M pages already indexed, and I dug into Altavista, which says it has ~140M pages indexed.
I made two searches; one for the word 'Microsoft' and the other for 'Linux'.
Altavista gave : 12,682,370 (M$) and 4,526,430 (LX). FAST gave : 4689227 (M$) and 2570827 (LX).
So.. If FAST currently is ~40% bigger than Altavista, how come they return numbers that much lower? With such large numbers it can't be pure coincidence, In My Humble Opinion.
First off, this does not have much to do with how many citizens there are; I'm talking percentages here, and our death by gunshot percentage is still way lower than the US percentage.
And still, if someone broke in, I'd be much happier if I knew that the person in front of me would just point a stolen gun at me, and not consider firing it because chances that I have a gun are extremely small, than he'd just gun me down because there might be a chance that I had a gun too. If everyone carries a gun then those who have little thoughts of others will per default gun you down and steal your money, than just trying to scare you to hand over your money
But if we look beyond the guns/no guns policy, can we agree that that discussion is all about taking care of the symptom? Wouldn't it be better to prevent incidents like this by taking better care of those who may seem likely to go to extremes?
...And it WILL give the average whacko the ability to kill whoever he may choose to, with the movement of a finger.
If people just say 'well, yeah, there's nothing to do', then be prepared to see more of the inhabitants of "God's Own Country" to get closer to Him a lot faster than planned!
Being from Denmark, I think that the task of taking an armed whacko down is a POLICE task, NOT a civilian task. Try to consider what would happen if 5 or 6 completely untrained persons tries to shoot an armed whacko down - what are the chances of those 5 or 6 shooting eachother or other innocent bystanders?
Somehow the Danish death rate by gun wounds is by far lower than that of the US. It usually makes headlines if a single person is shot down here, because it's so rare. So please give me a good argument why gun control shouldn't be imposed..?
I've given this incident (and the likes) a lot of thought, and when I heard about this one, I was grief-struck, but not the least surprised.
First, the Doom factor: Is it because people play Doom they go whacko, or do the whackos play Doom? Which way around is it? Second, if people who play Doom, Quake and the likes, how come there aren't any more incidents? To the best of my knowledge, that kind of games have sold in the range of millions, and are probably installed as illegal copies of a factor 20. In my humble opinion, it's not those games which causes it - it may push the near-edge whackos just over the edge, but cause it? Not likely.
So, how about the Internet factor? That it's possible to download bomb recipes? Yeah, that might be a problem. Except that 1) You only get the blueprints - not the materials, 2) I've had such recipes at hand LONG before the Internet got popular and 3) Any moron can figure out to stuff gunpowder down a metal tube and seal it.
Well, what's the problem then, you ask? As I see it, it has something to do with the American Gun Culture. I nearly choked in my coffee when I read that there are so-called 'gun free zones', eg. schools, churches, government building and the likes. This is nice.. Except that you're allowed to carry a handgun everywhere else! Now take cigarettes.. You're allowed to smoke them at home and at places which are clearly marked. So effectively, there's harder restrictions on the potential of killing yourself than the potential of killing others!
So I'm not the least bit surprised that incidents like this happen.
Don't get me wrong with the next comment - I feel the deepest sympathy for the affected teenagers and the friends and families of those, but I do not feel the slightest sympathy for the American society as such. The American society keep claiming that it's important that guns are readily available whenever you feel like it.
Well, any choice has a consequense and a price, and perhaps now is the time to reconsider whether the price of free guns, which is some dead innocent teenagers now and then, may be too high or not.
I once heard about a project which intended to do exactly this.
Unfortunately I can't remember the URL nor if it's been active since then, but I wouldn't count on it, since it's been, um, a couple of years since they started it.
Furthermore, I can think of several huge problems when trying to accomplish this - the internal kernel structures may not be compatible with each other from version to version. Yes, you could write a subsystem which could convert the old data from one version to the next, but how about if you jump more than one version..? Not to speak about the -ac patches.
Trust me, I for one would like this to happen, but I'm just too pessimistic about the possibility that may be accomplished.
"Linux currently has an average uptime of 99.9923%, and we're working hard to fix the bug." - Unnamed Linux vendor
Well, this isn't groundbreaking in any sense.. There's been spread spectrum for several years. Besides, you won't be able to press more information through; if you use a great bandwidth, say 100 MHz, yes, you'll be able to push around 50 Mbit/s through - at most - but only if it's continuous. If you reduce it to a pulse of, say, 1 nanosecond (10^-9), you'll get a staggering single bit per 20 seconds on average. Someone please show me the bandwidth advantage? In addition, what's that rubbish of making the electronics far smaller? You'll still have to be able to push a certain amount of energy into the air, and that doesn't change the properties of the components much. True, you won't need as much cooling, but certain physics still apply. Yes, you can encrypt the information far better because you never know when the next burst will come and on which frequency, but that's about the only advantage. But all in all, please forgive my skepticism, but I'll believe the major breakthrough when I see it.
I must say, I do respect her for her opinion. Most people try to outsmart Linux people for the 'technical superiority', but she simply states that she likes the look & feel of Windows better.
I do respect that opinion - (more or less) the only way to make people like her to use Linux is to make Linux look and feel like Windows.
I for one wouldn't want to see that - being a Linux hacker for 4+ years, I like the way Linux works. If I wanted Windows, I'd use Windows. (well, I do, but only at work).
Of course we should all demonstrate Linux to everyone we know, but afterwards - please do respect the people that say that they want Windows because, well, they like it. Pressing hard will only make us look like fanatics and will only damage our case. And fanatics can be front page stuff, but usually not for anything good.
Finally, for those of you people out there who are forced to use Windows, but would like a whiff of UNIX, here's a link for you (vi for Windows!)
It's no big issue keeping a 5.0 up to speed - upgrading the RPMS as necessary will keep it alive & happy for a long time (I'm running 5.0 on my workserver at home, but with _lots_ of rpm upgrades).
I would like to upgrade to a 'native' 5.2 (or 6.0 when it's there), but there's just too darn much reconfiguration for me to care for that on that particular machine:)
Ahum.. Wsn't it something like the Samba team tried to fix a not-too-lethal bug from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 and ended up with an even more lethal bug, hence "brown paper bag release" 2.0.2 ?
Perhaps you might want to hold on a bit concerning the Samba upgrade from these RPM's..?
Well, in Denmark it's also possible to buy a machine without an OS. A few hardware vendors do not do this, though, as they conclude that if you don't _buy_ an OS, you must be installing an illegal OS on it. Their criteria was that they did not sell a machine without OS, so I asked that if I bought a PC, they'd install Linux on it..? Yes, they would - at additional cost. But I'd get Windows in my shopping bag anyway.
It took me about 2 clock cycles to leave the store and go to another shop, which did not have this policy:-)
Best regards, Snotboble
The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.
Slashdot Mirror
2001-03-17 17:17:17 would be my guess.. So we'll see if I will be the lucky owner of a T-shirt :)
It's not just CD medias they're talking about; it's also harddrives and any other digital storage media which the plan to tax here in Denmark.
They plan to make a refund scheme where companies can get the tax refunded if they provide receipts etc., but it's a pay tax first, then get it refunded-kind of scheme. Just adds up to the bureaucracy - I'd think it would cost more to maintain this kind of control than it brings in in revenue.
A little C code test:
/root]# cat moks.c
/root]# cc -O2 -g -omoks moks.c /root]# file ./moks /root]# ./moks
:-)
--------------------------------
[root@localhost
#include
#include
int main (void)
{
unsigned long int myvar;
printf ("Size of int : %d\n", sizeof (myvar));
exit (0);
}
[root@localhost
[root@localhost
./moks: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[root@localhost
Size of int : 8
--------------------------------
So.. It obviously works; compiler and everything
This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons.
Well, you know, to some (both people and legislators), gun control is using both hands to hold it.
> Did you notice how that was, like, FICTION?!
> HELLO! Wake up you Brazilian freaks! I mean aren't you the ones doing those military experiments on people and stuff?
It's very simple: The Brazilian police and military hates competition.
.. it's not worth it. I got one of the first ones that were produced, and the radio link was quite alright - if you were in a radio wave free environment - but most people aren't. I've heard that there's a new version out where this is significantly improved (it actually works now).
But the claimed improvement of ergonomics are simply not there. In order to register movement, you have to hold quite tight onto the pen to press the ball in the end down to make it roll, hence you tighten your fingermuscles for as long as you move the pen.
It was recently tested by a danish consumer magazine ("Tænk", I think it was), along with several other pointing devices. It wasn't the worst, but it came pretty close, along with mice in the price range of $5-$10.
How you like it is of course a matter of taste, but I can in no way recommend it. If you really do not want a mouse, my personal (non-sponsored) recommendation is the Logitech Trackman Marble FX; it feels like wearing a glove - if you stretch your hand in front of you - in a non-turned, relaxed state - and let it drop to the table, that's how the Trackman Marble is handled and is to your wrist.
No left-hand version, though..
Yeah, and have it interface to our body. That'd be great, unless your system got cracked - imagine a computer virus that makes you empty your rectum when there's more than 50 people in a 100 feet radius around you. Nice.
A second thought.. Would that mean that the US Govt. would put export restrictions on paint?
Great! I always wanted to paint my walls with a Beowulf cluster!
I wondered about those 200M pages already indexed, and I dug into Altavista, which says it has ~140M pages indexed.
I made two searches; one for the word 'Microsoft' and the other for 'Linux'.
Altavista gave : 12,682,370 (M$) and 4,526,430 (LX).
FAST gave : 4689227 (M$) and 2570827 (LX).
So.. If FAST currently is ~40% bigger than Altavista, how come they return numbers that much lower? With such large numbers it can't be pure coincidence, In My Humble Opinion.
-Snotboble
Try the local Danish mirror - I'm downloading as we speak (write?)
My girlfriend told me I had a body like a God. Unfortunately I found out she's a buddhist.
First off, this does not have much to do with how many citizens there are; I'm talking percentages here, and our death by gunshot percentage is still way lower than the US percentage.
And still, if someone broke in, I'd be much happier if I knew that the person in front of me would just point a stolen gun at me, and not consider firing it because chances that I have a gun are extremely small, than he'd just gun me down because there might be a chance that I had a gun too.
If everyone carries a gun then those who have little thoughts of others will per default gun you down and steal your money, than just trying to scare you to hand over your money
But if we look beyond the guns/no guns policy, can we agree that that discussion is all about taking care of the symptom? Wouldn't it be better to prevent incidents like this by taking better care of those who may seem likely to go to extremes?
Just my $0.02.
...And it WILL give the average whacko the ability to kill whoever he may choose to, with the movement of a finger.
If people just say 'well, yeah, there's nothing to do', then be prepared to see more of the inhabitants of "God's Own Country" to get closer to Him a lot faster than planned!
Being from Denmark, I think that the task of taking an armed whacko down is a POLICE task, NOT a civilian task. Try to consider what would happen if 5 or 6 completely untrained persons tries to shoot an armed whacko down - what are the chances of those 5 or 6 shooting eachother or other innocent bystanders?
Somehow the Danish death rate by gun wounds is by far lower than that of the US. It usually makes headlines if a single person is shot down here, because it's so rare. So please give me a good argument why gun control shouldn't be imposed..?
I've given this incident (and the likes) a lot of thought, and when I heard about this one, I was grief-struck, but not the least surprised.
First, the Doom factor: Is it because people play Doom they go whacko, or do the whackos play Doom? Which way around is it?
Second, if people who play Doom, Quake and the likes, how come there aren't any more incidents? To the best of my knowledge, that kind of games have sold in the range of millions, and are probably installed as illegal copies of a factor 20.
In my humble opinion, it's not those games which causes it - it may push the near-edge whackos just over the edge, but cause it? Not likely.
So, how about the Internet factor? That it's possible to download bomb recipes? Yeah, that might be a problem. Except that
1) You only get the blueprints - not the materials,
2) I've had such recipes at hand LONG before the Internet got popular and
3) Any moron can figure out to stuff gunpowder down a metal tube and seal it.
Well, what's the problem then, you ask? As I see it, it has something to do with the American Gun Culture. I nearly choked in my coffee when I read that there are so-called 'gun free zones', eg. schools, churches, government building and the likes. This is nice.. Except that you're allowed to carry a handgun everywhere else!
Now take cigarettes.. You're allowed to smoke them at home and at places which are clearly marked. So effectively, there's harder restrictions on the potential of killing yourself than the potential of killing others!
So I'm not the least bit surprised that incidents like this happen.
Don't get me wrong with the next comment - I feel the deepest sympathy for the affected teenagers and the friends and families of those, but I do not feel the slightest sympathy for the American society as such.
The American society keep claiming that it's important that guns are readily available whenever you feel like it.
Well, any choice has a consequense and a price, and perhaps now is the time to reconsider whether the price of free guns, which is some dead innocent teenagers now and then, may be too high or not.
I once heard about a project which intended to do exactly this.
Unfortunately I can't remember the URL nor if it's been active since then, but I wouldn't count on it, since it's been, um, a couple of years since they started it.
Furthermore, I can think of several huge problems when trying to accomplish this - the internal kernel structures may not be compatible with each other from version to version. Yes, you could write a subsystem which could convert the old data from one version to the next, but how about if you jump more than one version..? Not to speak about the -ac patches.
Trust me, I for one would like this to happen, but I'm just too pessimistic about the possibility that may be accomplished.
"Linux currently has an average uptime of 99.9923%, and we're working hard to fix the bug."
- Unnamed Linux vendor
Well, this isn't groundbreaking in any sense.. There's been spread spectrum for several years. Besides, you won't be able to press more information through; if you use a great bandwidth, say 100 MHz, yes, you'll be able to push around 50 Mbit/s through - at most - but only if it's continuous. If you reduce it to a pulse of, say, 1 nanosecond (10^-9), you'll get a staggering single bit per 20 seconds on average. Someone please show me the bandwidth advantage?
In addition, what's that rubbish of making the electronics far smaller? You'll still have to be able to push a certain amount of energy into the air, and that doesn't change the properties of the components much. True, you won't need as much cooling, but certain physics still apply.
Yes, you can encrypt the information far better because you never know when the next burst will come and on which frequency, but that's about the only advantage.
But all in all, please forgive my skepticism, but I'll believe the major breakthrough when I see it.
I must say, I do respect her for her opinion. Most people try to outsmart Linux people for the 'technical superiority', but she simply states that she likes the look & feel of Windows better.
I do respect that opinion - (more or less) the only way to make people like her to use Linux is to make Linux look and feel like Windows.
I for one wouldn't want to see that - being a Linux hacker for 4+ years, I like the way Linux works. If I wanted Windows, I'd use Windows. (well, I do, but only at work).
Of course we should all demonstrate Linux to everyone we know, but afterwards - please do respect the people that say that they want Windows because, well, they like it. Pressing hard will only make us look like fanatics and will only damage our case. And fanatics can be front page stuff, but usually not for anything good.
Finally, for those of you people out there who are forced to use Windows, but would like a whiff of UNIX, here's a link for you (vi for Windows!)
vi for Windows
"History keeps repeating itself - it has to - nobody ever listens!" (thanks to Alan Cox for this quote)
It's no big issue keeping a 5.0 up to speed - upgrading the RPMS as necessary will keep it alive & happy for a long time (I'm running 5.0 on my workserver at home, but with _lots_ of rpm upgrades).
:)
I would like to upgrade to a 'native' 5.2 (or 6.0 when it's there), but there's just too darn much reconfiguration for me to care for that on that particular machine
At least initscripts can't be upgraded; I tried to upgrade my 5.1 and it said 'redhat-release =5.1 conflicts with initscripts-yaddayaddayadda'.
As for the rest; I guess they can. Try it out - it'll tell ya it it won't cut it.
Ahum.. Wsn't it something like the Samba team tried to fix a not-too-lethal bug from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 and ended up with an even more lethal bug, hence "brown paper bag release" 2.0.2 ?
Perhaps you might want to hold on a bit concerning the Samba upgrade from these RPM's..?
... Finally got there! :-)
:-)
Well, hope the Windows Refund Day will be as successful as the publicity that has surrounded it
Well, in Denmark it's also possible to buy a machine without an OS. A few hardware vendors do not do this, though, as they conclude that if you don't _buy_ an OS, you must be installing an illegal OS on it.
:-)
Their criteria was that they did not sell a machine without OS, so I asked that if I bought a PC, they'd install Linux on it..? Yes, they would - at additional cost. But I'd get Windows in my shopping bag anyway.
It took me about 2 clock cycles to leave the store and go to another shop, which did not have this policy
Best regards,
Snotboble
The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.