One of the most important new features in Perl 5 was the capability to manage complicated data structures like multidimensional arrays and nested hashes. To enable these, Perl 5 introduced a feature called `references', and using references is the key to managing complicated, structured data in Perl.
It boggles the mind that I have to go through this nonsense to store an array in an array. Guess what I have to do in order to store an array in an array in ruby...
or rather, guess what I don't have to do in order to store an array in an array in ruby (or probably python as well).
Whilst Solaris does have package management, it's not as good as RPM.
Actually, solaris pkgs have probably 99% of the features of redhat's RPM.
example:
Want to find out what package a file belongs to?
RPM:
rpm -qf/usr/bin/file_in_question
Solaris:
pkgchk -l -p/usr/bin/file_in_question
Furthermore, both keep a record of the md5 checksums of the binaries when they were installed. This is of course, very handy when you want to determine if binaries have changed since installation.
The only feature RPM has that solaris pkg does not provide is a "source rpm" equivalent. Perhaps you should become more familiar with pkgs before passing judgement;)
The Register is incorrect. HP-UX 11i was developed to run on Itanium so that they can install Unix or NT on the same hardware. Future versions will also be developed.
Wrong, actually. The Itanic (er itanium) is not an x86 derivative, its a me-too intel-finally-got-out-of-the-1980s 64 bit RISC architecture. x86, as the gazillions of other geeks that read this site know, is a 32 bit cisc hork whose only strong
poing is low cost.
Getting rid of people who are probably in the top 1000 kernel engineers in the world make no sense at all.
this news may come as a surprise to those of you out there who dont actually work in a shop that has 50-60 HP-(s)UX boxes including a brand new superdome. This news is not a shock and its not really surprising at all. It is typical of HP's mentality towards unix. That abomination of an unix variant is a throwback to the 80s that HP keeps around as a token gesture to those organizations that dont buy into the Microsoft Way Of Life. Hewlett Packard has their nose so far up MS's ass its amazing they do ANYTHING not MS-centric. HP is boasting that you can run NT on the Itanic processor and they regard unix as a redheaded stepchild. Their decision to axe people responsible for the core of their unix variant is typical of their corporate shortsightedness. "sure you COULD run unix on this new Itanic processors, but why would you want to? run this shiny new version of Wintendo NT on it instead" pathetic.
and those morons out there who think HP is considering burying HP-(s)UX for Linux should buy a crowbar, because they're gonna need it to help pry their heads out of their own asses for that.
HP is a pro-MS company and they merely pay lipservice to anything that is popular right now (like linux). thankfully Sun and IBM are both going strong. Wish we could be rid of HP once and for all.
As for the virus scanning part, a unix box (doesnt matter what flavor) running samba and mcafee would work. Yes, mcafee makes "virus scanners" that scan unix filesystems for windows viruses. Sounds like the ideal filesharing solution to me, commercial or not.
MS is already doing that. Didn't you know that MS used to be in Waco, Texas? Its only recently did they move all their resources to Redmond.
Waco, eh? Hm.. It wouldn't surprise me if MS has a high level manager or director working for them under the guise of "Data Koresh". It all makes sense now...
In public forums, you're supposed to be evaluated on the basis of your ideas - what you post. Not who you are, or whether or not you want to remain anonymous.
Having an account on slashdot is about as anonymous as getting an account on hotmail. Unless you want to make your name and information (such as email and your website) public, its not required. Frankly, your comment is invalid. I could open another account on slashdot tomorrow and "make up" a name and get a hotmail account and be as anonymous as possible. I dont have any pity on "AC" posters who get overlooked simply because they dont log in or get an account. It takes 10 seconds.
What is the difference between this and public domain now?
Good damn question. I'm trying to figure out what the hell the point of this was myself. So this means that now people like microsoft can continue to steal code and now they have BSD's permission to not even acknowledge who they were stealing code from? Dandy. People may claim RMS is some kind of communist (which is absurd) but frankly if I write something and put it out there for others to enjoy, I dont think I'd care for some Marketing-and-Propaganda-Machine (ie. Microsoft) from taking my code and calling it their own. If people wanted that, why not just go work for microsoft?
I wish someone would give me the real motivation behind this amendment to the BSD license.
Obviously a comment from a microsoft stockholder, disgruntled NT admin (god knows I would be, if I had to work on that godforsaken abomination 40 hours a week), or an idiot in the Navy who recommended moving from UNIX to NT:)
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"And when Linux does crash, it crashes horribly"
so we're countering supposed FUD with more FUD? Maybe linux crashes for YOU, the clueless uninformed user feeling the need to hide behind the AC name. Your comments confirm this. Linux doesnt "crash horribly." At worst case, if you've done something stupid like corrupt the libc, or really screw upsomething else as extreme, you *MAY* have to reinstall. Particularly if you dont have enough of a clue to boot into single user mode or off a rescue disk/cd and fix your screwup. The *ONLY TIME* in the 4 years i've been actively using linux (and by that I mean at least 60% of my time on the computer is booted in linux) is when I've fiddled around with SVGAlib and the buggy thing locks linux up completely. But even in cases like that, its not the kernel or any other critical part of the os that locks up, its just a buggy application that needs to run with root permissions.
And No, NT rebooting every day is not a FUD. I've done contract work in places like Sprint PCS where the oncall person has to reboot certain NT servers on a regular basis, and they have more NT and UNIX machines than you have houses in your neighborhood. The fact is, NT is pure garbage and the fact that people's lives are depending on this Microsoft Trash(tm) makes my skin crawl. I'd love to be suffering from a heart attack and hear the person on the other end of the call say "you'll have to wait 15 more minutes sir, we're waiting for this Windows NT machine to reboot."
"HP/SGI/IBM all have whiz bang kernels that beat the beans out of Linux"
Heh.. Either you're a tad misinformed or you and I have differing opinions as to what qualifies as "whiz-bang." Let's pick on HP for a moment. HP-UX 10.20 comes to mind, for example. Its still widely used (unfortunately) in some places. HP-UX 10.20 doesnt even do PASSWORD SHADOWING out of the box, for christ's sake; and, it has alot of binaries and links to other binaries in/etc . There's a plethora of changes to the system that can only be facilitated by recompiling the kernel and rebooting, and its gui system administration tool (SAM) is atrocious and butchers kernel rebuilds half the time. HP-UX 11 has some improvements (but not enough for me:) Anyways, that's 1 small example. Aix has its share of "annoyances" as well, but I dont feel like writing a whitepaper on slashdot about the atrocities of commercial Unices tonight.
Let's give credit where credit is due. Linus (and the swarms of other contributors on the net) deserve kudos for making a decent piece of work; It has its good points and weak points. The *BSD's, Solaris, and others all have their strong points (well, maybe with the possible exception of SCO *g*) as well as weak points.
This bickering amongst people who all profess to enjoy using the unix variants of their choice doesn't do much to further *any* cause.
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Actually, first they have to have a reason to stop you (e.g. traffic violation).
such as DWB (driving-while-black, or in this case, driving-while-brown) ? :-)
6) eliminate this bafflingly ridiculous notion of "references."
from http://perldoc.perl.org/perlreftut.html :
One of the most important new features in Perl 5 was the capability to manage complicated data structures like multidimensional arrays and nested hashes. To enable these, Perl 5 introduced a feature called `references', and using references is the key to managing complicated, structured data in Perl.
It boggles the mind that I have to go through this nonsense to store an array in an array. Guess what I have to do in order to store an array in an array in ruby...
or rather, guess what I don't have to do in order to store an array in an array in ruby (or probably python as well).
worlds.. greatest.. meme
roffling my ass off over here.
"It seems that we are at the age where life stops giving us things, and starts taking them away..." Indiana Jones
actually just a brief little comment about your sig. I believe it wasnt Indy, it was his old University Dean buddy that said that..
the MPAA will think my what is in canada?
What ever happened to "moderation in all things"?
:-)
moderation in all things, including moderation
Whilst Solaris does have package management, it's not as good as RPM.
/usr/bin/file_in_question
/usr/bin/file_in_question
;)
Actually, solaris pkgs have probably 99% of the features of redhat's RPM.
example:
Want to find out what package a file belongs to?
RPM:
rpm -qf
Solaris:
pkgchk -l -p
Furthermore, both keep a record of the md5 checksums of the binaries when they were installed. This is of course, very handy when you want to determine if binaries have changed since installation.
The only feature RPM has that solaris pkg does not provide is a "source rpm" equivalent. Perhaps you should become more familiar with pkgs before passing judgement
The Register is incorrect. HP-UX 11i was developed to run on Itanium so that they can install Unix or NT on the same hardware. Future versions will also be developed.
Wrong, actually. The Itanic (er itanium) is not an x86 derivative, its a me-too intel-finally-got-out-of-the-1980s 64 bit RISC architecture. x86, as the gazillions of other geeks that read this site know, is a 32 bit cisc hork whose only strong
poing is low cost.
long live ZOIDBERG
Getting rid of people who are probably in the top 1000 kernel engineers in the world make no sense at all.
this news may come as a surprise to those of you out there who dont actually work in a shop that has 50-60 HP-(s)UX boxes including a brand new superdome.
This news is not a shock and its not really surprising at all. It is typical of HP's mentality towards unix. That abomination of an unix variant is a throwback to the 80s that HP keeps around as a token gesture to those organizations that dont buy into the Microsoft Way Of Life.
Hewlett Packard has their nose so far up MS's ass its amazing they do ANYTHING not MS-centric.
HP is boasting that you can run NT on the Itanic processor and they regard unix as a redheaded stepchild. Their decision to axe people responsible for the core of their unix variant is typical of their corporate shortsightedness. "sure you COULD run unix on this new Itanic processors, but why would you want to? run this shiny new version of Wintendo NT on it instead"
pathetic.
and those morons out there who think HP is considering burying HP-(s)UX for Linux should buy a crowbar, because they're gonna need it to help pry their heads out of their own asses for that.
HP is a pro-MS company and they merely pay lipservice to anything that is popular right now (like linux).
thankfully Sun and IBM are both going strong.
Wish we could be rid of HP once and for all.
Big tits are vulgar.
Small tits, big ass, short hair. That's sexy.
you just described most of the men watching
star trek.
My Win2K workstation at work has an uptime of 83 days.
Yes, but have you logged in yet? (doubt it)
As for the virus scanning part, a unix box (doesnt matter what flavor) running samba and mcafee would work. Yes, mcafee makes "virus scanners" that scan unix filesystems for windows viruses. Sounds like the ideal filesharing solution to me, commercial or not.
MS is already doing that. Didn't you know that MS used to be in Waco, Texas? Its only recently did they move all their resources to Redmond.
Waco, eh? Hm.. It wouldn't surprise me if MS has a high level manager or director working for them under the guise of "Data Koresh". It all makes sense now...
Why does it matter?
In public forums, you're supposed to be evaluated on the basis of your ideas - what you post. Not who you are, or whether or not you want to remain anonymous.
Having an account on slashdot is about as anonymous as getting an account on hotmail. Unless you want to make your name and information (such as email and your website) public, its not required. Frankly, your comment is invalid. I could open another account on slashdot tomorrow and "make up" a name and get a hotmail account and be as anonymous as possible. I dont have any pity on "AC" posters who get overlooked simply because they dont log in or get an account. It takes 10 seconds.
What is the difference between this and public domain now?
Good damn question. I'm trying to figure out what the hell the point of this was myself. So this means that now people like microsoft can continue to steal code and now they have BSD's permission to not even acknowledge who they were stealing code from? Dandy. People may claim RMS is some kind of communist (which is absurd) but frankly if I write something and put it out there for others to enjoy, I dont think I'd care for some Marketing-and-Propaganda-Machine (ie. Microsoft) from taking my code and calling it their own. If people wanted that, why not just go work for microsoft?
I wish someone would give me the real motivation behind this amendment to the BSD license.
"Shut up you big stupid."
:)
Obviously a comment from a microsoft stockholder, disgruntled NT admin (god knows I would be, if I had to work on that godforsaken abomination 40 hours a week), or an idiot in the Navy who recommended moving from UNIX to NT
"And when Linux does crash, it crashes horribly"
so we're countering supposed FUD with more FUD?
Maybe linux crashes for YOU, the clueless uninformed user feeling the need to hide behind the AC name. Your comments confirm this.
Linux doesnt "crash horribly." At worst case, if you've done something stupid like corrupt the libc, or really screw upsomething else as extreme, you *MAY* have to reinstall. Particularly if you dont have enough of a clue to boot into single user mode or off a rescue disk/cd and fix your screwup. The *ONLY TIME* in the 4 years i've been actively using linux (and by that I mean at least 60% of my time on the computer is booted in linux) is when I've fiddled around with SVGAlib and the buggy thing locks linux up completely. But even in cases like that, its not the kernel or any other critical part of the os that locks up, its just a buggy application that needs to run with root permissions.
And No, NT rebooting every day is not a FUD. I've done contract work in places like Sprint PCS where the oncall person has to reboot certain NT servers on a regular basis, and they have more NT and UNIX machines than you have houses in your neighborhood. The fact is, NT is pure garbage and the fact that people's lives are depending on this Microsoft Trash(tm) makes my skin crawl. I'd love to be suffering from a heart attack and hear the person on the other end of the call say "you'll have to wait 15 more minutes sir, we're waiting for this Windows NT machine to reboot."
"HP/SGI/IBM all have whiz bang kernels that beat the beans out of Linux"
/etc . There's a plethora of changes to the system that can only be facilitated by recompiling the kernel and rebooting, and its gui system administration tool (SAM) is atrocious and butchers kernel rebuilds half the time. HP-UX 11 has some improvements (but not enough for me :) Anyways, that's 1 small example. Aix has its share of "annoyances" as well, but I dont feel like writing a whitepaper on slashdot about the atrocities of commercial Unices tonight.
Heh..
Either you're a tad misinformed or you and I have differing opinions as to what qualifies as "whiz-bang." Let's pick on HP for a moment. HP-UX 10.20 comes to mind, for example. Its still widely used (unfortunately) in some places. HP-UX 10.20 doesnt even do PASSWORD SHADOWING out of the box, for christ's sake; and, it has alot of binaries and links to other binaries in
Let's give credit where credit is due. Linus (and the swarms of other contributors on the net) deserve kudos for making a decent piece of work; It has its good points and weak points. The *BSD's, Solaris, and others all have their strong points (well, maybe with the possible exception of SCO *g*) as well as weak points.
This bickering amongst people who all profess to enjoy using the unix variants of their choice doesn't do much to further *any* cause.
my 2 cents.