The way the debian "installer" works is similar to what you want. You can abort after the base install and you have a small working system of around 20 megs. From here you can go the "debian" way and use taskselect or just download and compile.
It's not your T1 (DS3...)
It's not your router
It's not your firewall
It's not your switch
It's not yout hub
It's not your CAT5
It's not your jack
It's not your server(s)
It's not you computer (laptop)
It's not your mouse
It's not your keyboard
It's not your software (maybe it isn't even your companies!)
With my current stock options it is partly mine. I own a portion of the company I work for. I also own stock outside of options.
It mus be pretty sad to have a job that you put in 40 hours work and get 40 hours pay then go home never to think about it again untill next week. I like my job and enjoy it greatly. If your employee/emplyor relation ship is a work/pay only relation ship then you are not a valuable employee and probly should be fired for surfing and not working 100% of the time. I work an easy 60+ hours a week with some surfing and such in between work spirts. Most all surfing i do is browseing documentation and reading slashdot. both i think help me in my quest to better the company for education and social research.
I put up 10million in funds. This money goes
to a medium intrest account and the intrest goes to the company.
The conditions are: use this intrest to build a good company within x amount of time or untill you have used this to get a value of x amount and the rest is yours to go strong with the idea. Fold and I get the 10 million back.
This seems to me that it would help build a company on shoe string budget untill they got a working model, then they get the money to do the real work, of building and expanding.
Or they fold and VC gets there money back loseing only the intrest they could have made on it.
Could it be that the GPL is the only way to protect the software. Sure the BSD licenses are great for programmers but the code itself can be taken raped, beaten and kidnapped into propritaty formats that benifit the original code in no way what so ever. (look at OSX) At least with GPL it protects the code and code modifications.
(Ok no way what so ever is a little of a stretch for OSX only because apple did realase some of the code back. although very little)
Open source does not mean it has to be done in the free time of programmers. This is an extreamely valid idea. I am sure there are other places that will have full time paid programmers working on similar projects. If they all got together there could be an open source version of this software.
>-Linux is a pretty good system. It's not the
>cleanest, most versatile, or most elegant thing on
>the block, but it does what it's needed to do
>wonderfully. But *it* *can't* *do* *everything*.
Why is that? Open source, modular construction, completely configureable. Maybe this is true right now that it can't do everything, but what is stopping it from being molded into anything that you may want???
with the drop of price in ram as fast as it is now. I would bet that within the 5-8 years of reaching hard drive limits that battery backed up ram would be within price range.
of getting battery backed up RAM as mass storage. I just got 512M of ram from pricewatch for well under $100. With more and more reduction in the cost of ram it seems that a huge battery backed up ram drive could be an answer for this.
Of course you wont be able to pull one out of your closet in 10 years and find all that cools stuff you use to have.
yea thats me all right to late for everything I just found out someone stole my idea and made something called Linux. it is almost exaclty like what My plan was all they did was rename things.
So woundn't it make sense for Sony to start produceing PS2's with built in hard drives, network cards and other things that they plan on makeing standard needed items for the PS2?
Maybe make a PS2.1 with built in harddrive and network card. Then also sell add-ons for the old PS2.0. This would give Sony the advantage of already haveing games and users. Then giveing all of the features of the XBOX around the same time or before it comes out.
perhaps if i had some rexec scripts setup to run the programs on the xserver from the application server. That way they would just be run local even though over an nfs mount. It may not be super speedy but it should work.
yea and put them all in a seperate directory like \ini then put all the programs in \prog and system config stuff in \sprog lets put dlls in \dll then create another directory called \install in here we can have other applications install them selves. we can have \install\prog for the exe files and \install\ini for the config files.
While we are at it we should make a directory access to the device maanger call it \devman and keep real time updated information about the system in plain text human readable files.
Wow I might start my own Operating System. this is going to be great.
Where is a good howto on getting sound to work. I have had an xterminal for some time but have not gotten sound to work. I heard it was possible but didn't know how.
Another question:
Is it possable to get accelerated 3d working over a network connection?? I wouldn't think so but it sure would be neet.
look over the pacakges i would say that the 75 megs is to have a lot of elbow room. also the pacakges include all of gnome 1.2. The total download (includeing gnome and all libs) is around 20-25 megs. That includes mozilla, your mp3 player and may other componets. the nautilus executable is around.4M and the libnautilus* weighs in at less than 2M. I am sure there is lots of graphics and such to make up the rest. I am not claiming that Nautilus is bloated or not-bloated. mainly because I don't really care. Maybe I just have low expactations of it and because it does work I think it is great.
Slashdot Mirror
The way the debian "installer" works is similar to what you want. You can abort after the base install and you have a small working system of around 20 megs. From here you can go the "debian" way and use taskselect or just download and compile.
?They leave knowing everything to 31337 Star Wars obsessed Linux jerkwads on slashdot.
I take offense to that statement.
It's not your T1 (DS3...)
It's not your router
It's not your firewall
It's not your switch
It's not yout hub
It's not your CAT5
It's not your jack
It's not your server(s)
It's not you computer (laptop)
It's not your mouse
It's not your keyboard
It's not your software (maybe it isn't even your companies!)
With my current stock options it is partly mine. I own a portion of the company I work for. I also own stock outside of options.
It mus be pretty sad to have a job that you put in 40 hours work and get 40 hours pay then go home never to think about it again untill next week. I like my job and enjoy it greatly. If your employee/emplyor relation ship is a work/pay only relation ship then you are not a valuable employee and probly should be fired for surfing and not working 100% of the time. I work an easy 60+ hours a week with some surfing and such in between work spirts. Most all surfing i do is browseing documentation and reading slashdot. both i think help me in my quest to better the company for education and social research.
I am a VC I want to fund a software company.
I put up 10million in funds. This money goes
to a medium intrest account and the intrest goes to the company.
The conditions are: use this intrest to build a good company within x amount of time or untill you have used this to get a value of x amount and the rest is yours to go strong with the idea. Fold and I get the 10 million back.
This seems to me that it would help build a company on shoe string budget untill they got a working model, then they get the money to do the real work, of building and expanding.
Or they fold and VC gets there money back loseing only the intrest they could have made on it.
Could it be that the GPL is the only way to protect the software. Sure the BSD licenses are great for programmers but the code itself can be taken raped, beaten and kidnapped into propritaty formats that benifit the original code in no way what so ever. (look at OSX) At least with GPL it protects the code and code modifications.
(Ok no way what so ever is a little of a stretch for OSX only because apple did realase some of the code back. although very little)
"can do", "done" and "will do" I would guess are the 3 major things in this type of argument.
sorry i had no point in this.
Open source does not mean it has to be done in the free time of programmers. This is an extreamely valid idea. I am sure there are other places that will have full time paid programmers working on similar projects. If they all got together there could be an open source version of this software.
>-Linux is a pretty good system. It's not the
>cleanest, most versatile, or most elegant thing on
>the block, but it does what it's needed to do
>wonderfully. But *it* *can't* *do* *everything*.
Why is that? Open source, modular construction, completely configureable. Maybe this is true right now that it can't do everything, but what is stopping it from being molded into anything that you may want???
with the drop of price in ram as fast as it is now. I would bet that within the 5-8 years of reaching hard drive limits that battery backed up ram would be within price range.
of getting battery backed up RAM as mass storage. I just got 512M of ram from pricewatch for well under $100. With more and more reduction in the cost of ram it seems that a huge battery backed up ram drive could be an answer for this.
Of course you wont be able to pull one out of your closet in 10 years and find all that cools stuff you use to have.
wow, now that is good humor
yea thats me all right to late for everything I just found out someone stole my idea and made something called Linux. it is almost exaclty like what My plan was all they did was rename things.
So woundn't it make sense for Sony to start produceing PS2's with built in hard drives, network cards and other things that they plan on makeing standard needed items for the PS2?
Maybe make a PS2.1 with built in harddrive and network card. Then also sell add-ons for the old PS2.0. This would give Sony the advantage of already haveing games and users. Then giveing all of the features of the XBOX around the same time or before it comes out.
perhaps if i had some rexec scripts setup to run the programs on the xserver from the application server. That way they would just be run local even though over an nfs mount. It may not be super speedy but it should work.
yea and put them all in a seperate directory like \ini then put all the programs in \prog and system config stuff in \sprog lets put dlls in \dll then create another directory called \install in here we can have other applications install them selves. we can have \install\prog for the exe files and \install\ini for the config files.
While we are at it we should make a directory access to the device maanger call it \devman and keep real time updated information about the system in plain text human readable files.
Wow I might start my own Operating System. this is going to be great.
uhh, thats an easy one:
/boot/config-
why would you even need to ask?
Where is a good howto on getting sound to work. I have had an xterminal for some time but have not gotten sound to work. I heard it was possible but didn't know how.
Another question:
Is it possable to get accelerated 3d working over a network connection?? I wouldn't think so but it sure would be neet.
I like GNG better
you know
GNG Not Gaim
:)
I was hopping for a review of the mail client.
Ohh yea, good call on this one.
Microsoft has thousands of developers, on the other hand... ...and how many over see the finial compile time?
hmm
my guess would be less than a couple dozen...
Finally, someone with a level headded sence of view.
on how techies can / should approach their tax forms?
Isnt April 15th a little late to be asking this???
People who compile kernels?
look over the pacakges i would say that the 75 megs is to have a lot of elbow room. also the pacakges include all of gnome 1.2. The total download (includeing gnome and all libs) is around 20-25 megs. That includes mozilla, your mp3 player and may other componets. the nautilus executable is around .4M and the libnautilus* weighs in at less than 2M. I am sure there is lots of graphics and such to make up the rest. I am not claiming that Nautilus is bloated or not-bloated. mainly because I don't really care. Maybe I just have low expactations of it and because it does work I think it is great.
anyway i am starting to ramble