Reminds me of Richard Pryor's lament about Leon Spinks being the Heavyweight Champion at one time. "Dear God, please don't let him win. If he does win, please don't let the media interview him." It's a lot like some Christians just wish that some high-profile "ministers" would just shut up, and some Muslims wish that some high-profile Imams would just go away, etc......
I read the original BLOG entry before there were many comments. The author states clearly that the first time he signed and faxed the form back. When they requested he do it a second time he refused.
Not if they don't have anything else you want as much as you needed the monitor. Sure you can get stuff, but you can't use the store credit toward the purchase of a similar monitor somewhere else (since they no longer carried anything similar) and if that's the item you need a spiffy new DVD player won't cut it.
...[I'm] a "professional photographer [and] should know better than to buy things on the internet this way"...As those of you who visit this site regularly know, photography is a passionate hobby of mine.
So which is it: "professional" or "hobbyist"? There's some credibility in the balance here.
Hmmmmm. What could those quotation marks be telling us? What do those brackets mean? Dang!! Shoulda paid more attention in class I guess......
It's not a game. Either the study is flawed or it's not. If all you can see are the players you'll never arrive at a logical conclusion, just an emotional one. Even a stopped watch is right twice a day..... Sometimes liars tell the truth and some times honest people tell falsehoods.
Both the company I'm at now and the previous one make plans to upgrade as soon as the new versions are available. Of course, this is AIX and you can do the upgrade without committing the changes so you can easily roll back to the previous version. Like I said and you confirmed, that ain't the way it works with Windows. Maybe the Linux path at your company is patterned after the Windows strategy.
I use Suse here at work and, up until a few months ago, RedHat/Fedora at home (as well as Knoppix and other live CD's). After having repeated difficulties tracking down dependencies of dependencies ad infinitum and having redcarpet hose my systems and partial installs break things that had been running fine, I decided to give debian a try since I kept hearing all the same zealots. I tried yum for awhile and it does a pretty good job of resolving dependencies but it stopped working and I wasn't able to get it running again. Since the switch I've not had any partial installs that broke other things, the packages that are in the repositories install and upgrade flawlessly, and those packages that aren't in the repositories I've been able to run alien against RPM's I download and those too seem to work just fine and resolve all dependencies. I have no complaints after several months of usage.
I'm not much of a zealot. I'm more apt to sound off when I get cranky about something that doesn't work than to evangelize for some distro (although there are things that I will extol, my OS of choice is generally not one of them).
You are modded up, which rarely happens unless somebody shows things. That makes me think that IFWM (i.e. you) has mod points and you are simply using them. In addition, without any evidence to back you up, others mod you up.
I rarely pay attention to which user ID is associated with which comments. I look at the comments and determine if they're valid or not. Most of the time I post stuff that gets modded "funny" or is simply ignored. At other times I post stuff that's germaine to the discussion. I really don't care if the dude has fourteen ID's and thirteen are blatant trolls. The comments I've seen made here are valid. In fact, your argument lends itself to his case. As I read your comments you don't address the validity of the statements being made.
I think, as do others, that there are problems with the study that may or may not have been dealt with in the real world given a different set of constraints and/or a different set of admins and/or, etc, etc.....
Attacking the study based on who funded it does nothing to expose the problems, but uses FUD alone to 'refute' the findings. A critical examination of the assumptions, methodology, etc goes a lot farther in convincing the undecided than simply preaching to the choir. In this case I'd say that flyin-whatsis is adding more substance than his detractors. He's not saying the study is right, he actually seems to be encouraging the slashdot community to rise above trollish, preachin' to the choir reactionary commentary.
Quality of experience has as much (if not more) importance to qualification as quantity of experience.
Bingo. Where was this experience garnered? What kind of sysadmin were they? Adding users and fiddling with permissions could be considered a sysadmin position in some places. Saw a resume from a sysadmin for the military and that's all he knew how to do. Did they work in e-commerce before? What were their duties? Did they work for smaller companies where they ran the show or larger companies where they had dealt with corporate constraints and knew how to work their way through the quagmire of corporate liability fears and how to couch their arguments to convey the problems in a way that's meaningful to bean counters?
So. In criminology one should always question the validity of the data being presented by the cops and the prosecution since their purpose is 'conviction' rather than justice? Or is it better to dispense with that and allow the evidence to speak for itself?
And once you have an IT department, they tend to try and clamp down on sysadmins doing their own thing, because consistency in management becomes more important to them than individual efficiency.
Yep.
The study described here may not be perfect, but forcing the admins to work under arbitrary restrictions isn't a flaw.
No. But the important part is the give and take that tries to find "a solution everyone would bless". That doesn't appear to have been a factor in the study. In the real world, competent sysadmins bring up the potential problems of a given course of action and may recommend alternatives. That would likely include the admins stating that they'd be more comfortable betting their jobs on a different course of action and allowing management to override their documented suggestions (the bureaucratic hoo-ha can sometimes be your friend)....we'll just say that any OS version, regardless of vendor, that hasn't been around for at least a year isn't very likely to be running in such a place.
Nope. If you work closely with your vendor you may upgrade select systems shortly after the new versions come out. Most folks tend to wait a little while for early adopters to shake out any major bugs, but not an entire year (at least not on the *nix side of the house - I know our Windows admins wait awhile longer).
...who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America.
That's just crazy...
Because he states these facts so loudly, he is commonly interviewed on sunday morning talk shows and the like whenever some violent act occurs.
The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false; whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.
However, a case might be made for other deleterious effects of gaming......
I was thinking along the lines of a Personal Video Recorder like the hand-held media players that are available now. I've seen some of them referred to as PVRs.
Maybe I was stretching too hard to find a good reason to tie a DVR to RFID. Makes no sense for recording at home since part of the reason for a DVR is recording when you aren't there so that you can watch when you are. I can see transferring your preferences to a set-top box at a hotel (unless your favorite show comes on while you're in transit).
Then, for example, the tivo could scan the rfid tags in the kitchen and serve an ad for Hunts ketchup to every pvr that detects Heinz 57 in the fridge.
Ummmm. I hope you don't work for Hunts' marketing department...... Although I do know a guy who puts ketchup on his steaks (and even prime rib), most of us don't see the two as interchangeable.....
But if everyone has them you'll have to hold the toaster so that you don't get someone else's dark toast when you specifically RFID'd light. And who get's logged onto the computer? What if person X is having trouble with their PC or a program and you say, "let me drive", does the computer log them off and log you on?
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They should have invested in South Korea instead......
Reminds me of Richard Pryor's lament about Leon Spinks being the Heavyweight Champion at one time. "Dear God, please don't let him win. If he does win, please don't let the media interview him." It's a lot like some Christians just wish that some high-profile "ministers" would just shut up, and some Muslims wish that some high-profile Imams would just go away, etc......
Or perhaps I just got luck-of-the-draw and hit five or six people at multiple locations who were unaware of it and unwilling to ask someone else.
Including having it passed up the chain to a corporate attorney?
I wonder if retailers were pulling this stunt before the internet by running ads in shutterbug.
Maybe not Shutterbug, but print ads in photo mags had their share of shady characters.
I read the original BLOG entry before there were many comments. The author states clearly that the first time he signed and faxed the form back. When they requested he do it a second time he refused.
But I think store credit is more than fair.
Not if they don't have anything else you want as much as you needed the monitor. Sure you can get stuff, but you can't use the store credit toward the purchase of a similar monitor somewhere else (since they no longer carried anything similar) and if that's the item you need a spiffy new DVD player won't cut it.
So which is it: "professional" or "hobbyist"? There's some credibility in the balance here.
Hmmmmm. What could those quotation marks be telling us? What do those brackets mean? Dang!! Shoulda paid more attention in class I guess......
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There was a difference?
It's not a game. Either the study is flawed or it's not. If all you can see are the players you'll never arrive at a logical conclusion, just an emotional one. Even a stopped watch is right twice a day..... Sometimes liars tell the truth and some times honest people tell falsehoods.
Both the company I'm at now and the previous one make plans to upgrade as soon as the new versions are available. Of course, this is AIX and you can do the upgrade without committing the changes so you can easily roll back to the previous version. Like I said and you confirmed, that ain't the way it works with Windows. Maybe the Linux path at your company is patterned after the Windows strategy.
I use Suse here at work and, up until a few months ago, RedHat/Fedora at home (as well as Knoppix and other live CD's). After having repeated difficulties tracking down dependencies of dependencies ad infinitum and having redcarpet hose my systems and partial installs break things that had been running fine, I decided to give debian a try since I kept hearing all the same zealots. I tried yum for awhile and it does a pretty good job of resolving dependencies but it stopped working and I wasn't able to get it running again. Since the switch I've not had any partial installs that broke other things, the packages that are in the repositories install and upgrade flawlessly, and those packages that aren't in the repositories I've been able to run alien against RPM's I download and those too seem to work just fine and resolve all dependencies. I have no complaints after several months of usage.
I'm not much of a zealot. I'm more apt to sound off when I get cranky about something that doesn't work than to evangelize for some distro (although there are things that I will extol, my OS of choice is generally not one of them).
You are modded up, which rarely happens unless somebody shows things. That makes me think that IFWM (i.e. you) has mod points and you are simply using them. In addition, without any evidence to back you up, others mod you up.
I rarely pay attention to which user ID is associated with which comments. I look at the comments and determine if they're valid or not. Most of the time I post stuff that gets modded "funny" or is simply ignored. At other times I post stuff that's germaine to the discussion. I really don't care if the dude has fourteen ID's and thirteen are blatant trolls. The comments I've seen made here are valid. In fact, your argument lends itself to his case. As I read your comments you don't address the validity of the statements being made.
I think, as do others, that there are problems with the study that may or may not have been dealt with in the real world given a different set of constraints and/or a different set of admins and/or, etc, etc.....
Attacking the study based on who funded it does nothing to expose the problems, but uses FUD alone to 'refute' the findings. A critical examination of the assumptions, methodology, etc goes a lot farther in convincing the undecided than simply preaching to the choir. In this case I'd say that flyin-whatsis is adding more substance than his detractors. He's not saying the study is right, he actually seems to be encouraging the slashdot community to rise above trollish, preachin' to the choir reactionary commentary.
Quality of experience has as much (if not more) importance to qualification as quantity of experience.
Bingo. Where was this experience garnered? What kind of sysadmin were they? Adding users and fiddling with permissions could be considered a sysadmin position in some places. Saw a resume from a sysadmin for the military and that's all he knew how to do. Did they work in e-commerce before? What were their duties? Did they work for smaller companies where they ran the show or larger companies where they had dealt with corporate constraints and knew how to work their way through the quagmire of corporate liability fears and how to couch their arguments to convey the problems in a way that's meaningful to bean counters?
My research experience is in criminalogy....
So. In criminology one should always question the validity of the data being presented by the cops and the prosecution since their purpose is 'conviction' rather than justice? Or is it better to dispense with that and allow the evidence to speak for itself?
And once you have an IT department, they tend to try and clamp down on sysadmins doing their own thing, because consistency in management becomes more important to them than individual efficiency.
...we'll just say that any OS version, regardless of vendor, that hasn't been around for at least a year isn't very likely to be running in such a place.
Yep.
The study described here may not be perfect, but forcing the admins to work under arbitrary restrictions isn't a flaw.
No. But the important part is the give and take that tries to find "a solution everyone would bless". That doesn't appear to have been a factor in the study. In the real world, competent sysadmins bring up the potential problems of a given course of action and may recommend alternatives. That would likely include the admins stating that they'd be more comfortable betting their jobs on a different course of action and allowing management to override their documented suggestions (the bureaucratic hoo-ha can sometimes be your friend).
Nope. If you work closely with your vendor you may upgrade select systems shortly after the new versions come out. Most folks tend to wait a little while for early adopters to shake out any major bugs, but not an entire year (at least not on the *nix side of the house - I know our Windows admins wait awhile longer).
If said experiment was repeated, funded by say RedHat and they found the same results, do you think they would have the acument to publish them?
I don't know what 'acument' is, so I really can't answer your question.
Did you mean "upgrades of Debian" or were you just talking about plebeian upgrades?
Another fine product from Wayne Enterprises Military Division...
Bravo! I thought the same thing but was going to post something about 'weaponized hallucinogenics'.
I admittedly don't know much about Zen Buddhism, but hatred and enlightenment don't sound like compatible concepts to me.
I think he's a fundamentalist Buddhist.... See, there's the difference.
...who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America.
That's just crazy...
Because he states these facts so loudly, he is commonly interviewed on sunday morning talk shows and the like whenever some violent act occurs.
The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false; whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.
However, a case might be made for other deleterious effects of gaming......
I was thinking along the lines of a Personal Video Recorder like the hand-held media players that are available now. I've seen some of them referred to as PVRs.
Maybe I was stretching too hard to find a good reason to tie a DVR to RFID. Makes no sense for recording at home since part of the reason for a DVR is recording when you aren't there so that you can watch when you are. I can see transferring your preferences to a set-top box at a hotel (unless your favorite show comes on while you're in transit).
Ah well.
Maybe they don't want to repeat the performance of the dinosaurs.....
Then, for example, the tivo could scan the rfid tags in the kitchen and serve an ad for Hunts ketchup to every pvr that detects Heinz 57 in the fridge.
Ummmm. I hope you don't work for Hunts' marketing department...... Although I do know a guy who puts ketchup on his steaks (and even prime rib), most of us don't see the two as interchangeable.....
So you can only watch it on the machine you recorded it on if you're the only one in the room.
I was thinking along the same lines when I realized this was a PVR and not a DVR.
But if everyone has them you'll have to hold the toaster so that you don't get someone else's dark toast when you specifically RFID'd light. And who get's logged onto the computer? What if person X is having trouble with their PC or a program and you say, "let me drive", does the computer log them off and log you on?