All irrigation is not south of the canyon. The Colorado is dammed and tapped upstream as well.
There is a difference between 'all' and 'most' but I'd even go so far as to say that virtually all of the irrigation was started after the canyon was formed. Additionally, the poster only mentioned irrigation in the deserts of Arizona and So. Cal. and all of that water is taken downstream of the canyon.
Before phones, EMS response to time-critical injuries and illnesses was more or less impossible.
Actually, before phones there was no EMS to respond. It was like, "Dang. Wilbur fell off'n his horse an' hit his head on that there rock. Let's make a poltice and lay him out on a blanket in the shade. Somebody needs to see if ol' doc Wilson is to home."
The Colorado wasn't always a little stream. Since huge numbers of people started moving to Arizona and Southern California, and others started growing crops in the desert, the Colorado has been tapped for irrigation.
Hmmmm. What's your point seeing that most of that has happened 1) Since the canyon was formed and 2) downstream of the canyon?
Don't forget "LDS" when mentioning acceptable nicknames. Also, there are pockets of mormonism that still practive polygamy even though the official stance of the church has changed.
Yeah, but the reaction mass required to escape the moon's grav pull is a lot lower than that required to achieve escape velocity from Down Here; there's a case to be made that a mission to Mars should start use the moon as a staging area.
So, what raw materials would be found on the moon that wouldn't have to take off from earth in a more primitive form? You'll also have to transport enough supplies to sustain the builders while they assemble the parts on the lunar surface and the tools used to do the assembly. Then you'd have to transport the extra fuel to achieve escape velocity from the moon when you could have had the whole job done with one launch.
Once you've established a fleet of space based or lunar based craft and have a permanent manned base on the moon the economies might shift in favor of your proposal. Or am I missing something?
Right. Like the kernel hackers at IBM said recently, their customers aren't asking for Linux on low-end hardware but they're clamoring for it on high-end servers. THAT's where they're investing in Linux with things like AIX5L (L for its Linux affinity). Laptops aren't where the bulk of their customers are wanting Linux. That doesn't mean that the laptops will suddenly stop working with Linux.
Well, in the first place, it wasn't his work. As the poster indicated he hired craftsmen to build it. Secondarily, your friend's good code is still good code. He can still take pride in his work and perhaps use what he learned on that section of code in something later. Every time you do something you learn a little more. I don't know anyone who doesn't revisit their code and think, "I'd do it differently if I was starting all over." Sometime that comes at a much later date, other times shortly after completion (especially if it's a big project).
Taking pride in one's work doesn't have anything to do with how well it's received by the client. There's a difference between knowing you did a good job and taking it as personal rejection when someone decides they don't want what you produced. The customer didn't say, "That's a lousy fireplace, please do it over" but they just decided they didn't want a fireplace. You seem to indicate that the client your friend was working for just decided they didn't want the software to function or look a certain way (probably after they spec'd it out that way). That's no reflection on his work, but on the client's changing preferences. It in no way negates the value of the work performed to date. If the client says you did it wrong and you know you didn't, that can get frustrating. In those cases you just point them to their own written specifications (you did get them in writing didn't you?).
You really just illustrated my point with this post. If you take things personally and can't differentiate between a client's changing needs/wants, then your business will likely not be very successful. This applies whether you're building custom houses or custom software.
Geez, we are playing as Gods, creating and tunning something that may someday, search for the reasons of its own existence!
Hey, Gaak! Changing your name to gustavo and posting to/. is pretty cool, but the explanation about why you went to the parking lot was what gave you away. Poor little guy, I bet you were moving from wheeled metal box to wheeled metal box looking for solace.
My uncle likes the cash, but the frestration of having something you made ripped out is hard....
Lots of things are hard. Meeting the changing demands of customers is called customer service. As long as they're willing to pay for the change someone with good customer relations skills will see to it. If it's a minor request it's often worth not even charging for (builds something called goodwill). If every customer accepted plain vanilla everything any bozo could build a business. Since that's not the case, those who develop and exercise good people skills tend to rise to the top.
If you're comparing on a bytes per buck basis that's true. I was thinking in terms of applications. Different aerobic and weight training music left in the weight room, books on tape(card) in my briefcase for the commute, etc. Smaller than packing CD's and not as prone to shock damage as HD. I also sing and have considered laying background tracks on CF and having a very portable device to plug in at venues that have adequate sound systems so I don't have to lug so much gear. An entire set could sit on a single card. I could have a wedding card, funeral card, etc.
Same with minidisk, but it seems destined for Betamax heaven much sooner.
Since stress implies a constant force and I wanted to convey something of a more violent nature I chose 'under duress' because, umm.... I meant to say, uhhh... under-dressed, yeah! because I wear shorts while exercising.
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All irrigation is not south of the canyon. The Colorado is dammed and tapped upstream as well.
There is a difference between 'all' and 'most' but I'd even go so far as to say that virtually all of the irrigation was started after the canyon was formed. Additionally, the poster only mentioned irrigation in the deserts of Arizona and So. Cal. and all of that water is taken downstream of the canyon.
Before phones, EMS response to time-critical injuries and illnesses was more or less impossible.
Actually, before phones there was no EMS to respond. It was like, "Dang. Wilbur fell off'n his horse an' hit his head on that there rock. Let's make a poltice and lay him out on a blanket in the shade. Somebody needs to see if ol' doc Wilson is to home."
The Colorado wasn't always a little stream. Since huge numbers of people started moving to Arizona and Southern California, and others started growing crops in the desert, the Colorado has been tapped for irrigation.
Hmmmm. What's your point seeing that most of that has happened 1) Since the canyon was formed and 2) downstream of the canyon?
Don't forget "LDS" when mentioning acceptable nicknames. Also, there are pockets of mormonism that still practive polygamy even though the official stance of the church has changed.
....rather than some guy in a pink suit telling me.
Just exactly where did you used to shop???
Actually, the first commercial (that I saw) was hilarious and I never got tired of it. All of them since then have been pretty lame on first viewing.
Rowboat or tallship?
someone has to pay for it, and not get anything but just knowledge back from it.
That's a good argument for not funding education too.
Helium? Really? So that's how the moon stays up there!
Yeah, but the reaction mass required to escape the moon's grav pull is a lot lower than that required to achieve escape velocity from Down Here; there's a case to be made that a mission to Mars should start use the moon as a staging area.
So, what raw materials would be found on the moon that wouldn't have to take off from earth in a more primitive form? You'll also have to transport enough supplies to sustain the builders while they assemble the parts on the lunar surface and the tools used to do the assembly. Then you'd have to transport the extra fuel to achieve escape velocity from the moon when you could have had the whole job done with one launch.
Once you've established a fleet of space based or lunar based craft and have a permanent manned base on the moon the economies might shift in favor of your proposal. Or am I missing something?
The moon is our solar system's version of a wasteland...
Kind of like Phoenix used to be? Can't seem to keep people from moving here faster than the infrastructure can grow now.
Right. Like the kernel hackers at IBM said recently, their customers aren't asking for Linux on low-end hardware but they're clamoring for it on high-end servers. THAT's where they're investing in Linux with things like AIX5L (L for its Linux affinity). Laptops aren't where the bulk of their customers are wanting Linux. That doesn't mean that the laptops will suddenly stop working with Linux.
Well, in the first place, it wasn't his work. As the poster indicated he hired craftsmen to build it. Secondarily, your friend's good code is still good code. He can still take pride in his work and perhaps use what he learned on that section of code in something later. Every time you do something you learn a little more. I don't know anyone who doesn't revisit their code and think, "I'd do it differently if I was starting all over." Sometime that comes at a much later date, other times shortly after completion (especially if it's a big project).
Taking pride in one's work doesn't have anything to do with how well it's received by the client. There's a difference between knowing you did a good job and taking it as personal rejection when someone decides they don't want what you produced. The customer didn't say, "That's a lousy fireplace, please do it over" but they just decided they didn't want a fireplace. You seem to indicate that the client your friend was working for just decided they didn't want the software to function or look a certain way (probably after they spec'd it out that way). That's no reflection on his work, but on the client's changing preferences. It in no way negates the value of the work performed to date. If the client says you did it wrong and you know you didn't, that can get frustrating. In those cases you just point them to their own written specifications (you did get them in writing didn't you?).
You really just illustrated my point with this post. If you take things personally and can't differentiate between a client's changing needs/wants, then your business will likely not be very successful. This applies whether you're building custom houses or custom software.
Geez, we are playing as Gods, creating and tunning something that may someday, search for the reasons of its own existence!
/. is pretty cool, but the explanation about why you went to the parking lot was what gave you away. Poor little guy, I bet you were moving from wheeled metal box to wheeled metal box looking for solace.
Hey, Gaak! Changing your name to gustavo and posting to
By the way (BTW) it's a BMW, not a BWM.
No, BMW is the one without the intelligence. BWM stands for Being With Mind....
My uncle likes the cash, but the frestration of having something you made ripped out is hard....
Lots of things are hard. Meeting the changing demands of customers is called customer service. As long as they're willing to pay for the change someone with good customer relations skills will see to it. If it's a minor request it's often worth not even charging for (builds something called goodwill). If every customer accepted plain vanilla everything any bozo could build a business. Since that's not the case, those who develop and exercise good people skills tend to rise to the top.
As books are also easier to look up than experience....
You mean before you get it (experience) or after you start losing your memory?
Between those points experience is more portable than books.
Dang! I've had more AC replies to this than anything I've ever posted.
Conclusion: Most AC's are over 40.
Actually, you're thinking of the short version :)
I was really just thinking about the drum solo....
It's also the length of Alice's Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie...
Yeah, but that's the old theory...
...but the media sure ain't cheap...
If you're comparing on a bytes per buck basis that's true. I was thinking in terms of applications. Different aerobic and weight training music left in the weight room, books on tape(card) in my briefcase for the commute, etc. Smaller than packing CD's and not as prone to shock damage as HD. I also sing and have considered laying background tracks on CF and having a very portable device to plug in at venues that have adequate sound systems so I don't have to lug so much gear. An entire set could sit on a single card. I could have a wedding card, funeral card, etc.
Same with minidisk, but it seems destined for Betamax heaven much sooner.
Since stress implies a constant force and I wanted to convey something of a more violent nature I chose 'under duress' because, umm.... I meant to say, uhhh... under-dressed, yeah! because I wear shorts while exercising.
Blah... I don't like Nixon
I liked him. Graduated in '74 - right after he stopped the draft!
Also, he wasn't impeached. He resigned. Clinton was impeached but stayed in office.
...isn't that the long version of Inna Gadda Davida?
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