Both formats are sufficient for storing 1080p video. Considering the current market penetration of HDTV sets is still less than twenty percent 23 years after the formation of the ATSC, I'd say that is adequately future-proof.
Anyone who's interested in Bluray can easily do a minimal amount of research and discover that the PS3 plays them, and is one of the cheapest players out there.
The minimal research is going to bestbuy.com, circuitcity.com, amazon.com and so forth, and looking at what's in the Blu-Ray Disc Player category. None of the major vendors actually list the Playstation 3 on their websites, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the brick and mortars don't steer people to the game section when they come in and inquire in person. A lot of consumers are intimidated by the idea of extra features, especially ones they have no interest in, and given the game focused marketing I would be surprised if a lot of consumers were leary that movie-playing would be half-assed ancillary function (the lack of a bundled remote would only serve to reinforce that perception).
Go to Newegg, pull up 4GB drives and sort by lowest price one model at $29.99, three models at $32.99, 3 models at $32.99. Not on clearance, no discount.
(And as other responses have pointed out, hard drives are bigger, heavier, noisier and hotter. Add in extra expense for interface and cooling. And keep in mind that a packaged USB drive is going to be significantly more expensive than the raw flash chips.)
Swinging your arm with a two handed controller is awkward. The design change on the controller is as important as the tech.
Not for everyone, sure. It's no skin off my nose if some people place more emphasis on graphics and built-in media players and whatever else it is they see in the PS3 (or 360, for that matter).
You seriously think there have never been real world compromises from OpenSSL and OpenSSH? Absolutely none?
If you look at the specifics of the vulnerabilities, none of the ones discovered so far in the BIND9 codebase have been privilege escalation. Mostly DoS, a couple cache poisons, one client side vulnerability in the backwards compatability stub resolver that's disabled by default, and a case of some leaked environmental variables. In the case of *ss* there are numberous code execution bugs. And yes, some exploits in the wild that led to real compromises.
They do utilize/dev/random if it exists, to seed and reseed the PRNG. There's a few reasons I can think of not to use those exclusively:
On some platforms/dev/random blocks if the entroy pool is exhausted. Really really great when you're trying to service thousands of queries a second.
On platforms where/dev/random doesn't block (or an alternate device like urandom is used for non-blocking random number generation) you're going to end up with a PRNG anyways.
They have to ship and support a generator regardless, since some platforms lack a built-in facility.
Adding in platform specific hooks adds code paths. Additional code paths add bugs.
They would need to track and circumvent vulnerabilities in every external PRNG they would potentially rely on.
They would need to issue security alerts every time a weakness was discovered in a third-party PRNG implementation. (And what do you want to bet this would just perpetuate the currently unwarranted poor security reputation even if the fault was outside the ISC codebase?)
I already said this in other replies, but it all boils down to sales rank being a poor metric. Another point I missed in my first reply is that the 20GB model being discontinued will also have a net positive effect on the ranking of the 60GB model without any overall sales increase.
Considering that site either deliberately mistates what sales rank means or doesn't understand them, it's kind of hard to take them seriously. Moving from #28 to #1 doesn't translate to a "2800% jump in sales". Depending on how the other items in the category moved a product could sell less and still move up in ranks.
That site also conviently ignores that there were previous two seperate models. A true representation of sales prior to the price cut would also need to reflect the 20GB model, whereas sales rank is calculated on a particular SKU in Amazon's database.
So what that shows is that for that supplier sales of that model went up. Well duh. Sony is saying that they're selling more consoles now that they've dropped the price of the high end model. Again, duh.
You know what else is duh? Trying to divine sales figures from relative sales ranks from a single vendor.
Eh? BIND9 has a relatively tame history in terms of vulnerabilities. Just using the updates to RHEL3 as a quick and dirty metric, there have been two security updates compared to 5 openssh, 6 openssl, 11 php, 12 apache, 20 kernels, etc.
Unfortunately a lot of people seem stuck in the past and still judge BIND from the 4.x and 8.x days.
I personally like my DNS servers to follow the relevent standards personally.
Of course I could go ahead and run the recommended DJB configuring using rsync + openssh to propogate zone files. Then I would avoid the 10 vulnerabilities filed against BIND9 over it's seven year life span, but open myself to the 40 or so against OpenSSH, 30 or so against OpenSSL, and 10 or so against rsync.
I was mostly aiming to illustrate that, as a reliable metric, Amazon's sales rank isn't very useful. Even if there were historical trends provided it's still a relative metric, not absolute, so it can't prove an absolute increase in sales by it's nature. In this case it's even worse because the ranking is relative to another product which is supply constrained disproportionate to the overall market.
This is supposed to prove... what exactly? Even if a single vendor was a meaningful metric, there's a few issues here:
The Wii is currently ranked higher.
Even though it's not unlikely the PS3 temporarily took the #1 spot, you provide no evidence that it did or for how long. Since this is updated hourly, it's unlikely that you actually know that it was consistently #1 (unless perhaps you're disturbingly obsessive).
Amazon doesn't even sell the Wii directly at the moment.
The marketplace sellers that do offer the Wii are doing so at a shipped price of $392.19 and higher, or $142.20 over MSRP. If anything it's absolutely pathetic that the PS3 at MSRP can't outsell the Wii at 56% markup over retail.
It all adds up to an increase in sales due to the PS3 price drop. Something which I completely believe.
Not when the actual number of sales and computed increase in sales you cite are from June, before the price cut. The only supporting evidence is Sony's claim (not that I disbelieve them).
On Dec. 23, 1997, on his site, Robot Wisdom, Mr. Barger wrote: "I decided to start my own webpage logging the best stuff I find as I surf, on a daily basis," and the Oxford English Dictionary regards this as the primordial root of the word "weblog."
There's at least one well known blog predating that; James Lileks started the Bleat in February 1997.
Most people also don't understand that retailers put high markup on cables, since people don't comparison shop for them - they go bargain hunting for the electronics and then buy whatever accessories they need at the same store. Even if you insist on paying for Monster, you can get the prices for $50, other premimum brands can be found $20-30, respectable brands $10-20 and generics starting at $2.
I generally wouldn't go completely bottom barrel, since construction quality on generics can be spotty, but buying online you'll either get a drastically better price or drastically better cable for the same price.
Who in their right mind wouldn't pick up a PS3 for their HD video( BluRay ) player when for maybe $100 you get a 3rd Gen game console thrown in?
s/maybe $100/twice as much/ (at current market prices) s/maybe $100/$400 more/ (if the deal mentioned in the link is available)
And with the PS3 you're getting a player that doesn't auto-play when you swap discs (unless you power the player off), doesn't have a remote control, is incompatible with standard universal remotes, and draws a whopping 170W (even playing SD content) necessitating far more fans.
Gold is a non-corrosive and highly conductive. Good choice for plating contacts and connectors. For the quantity necessary for that application, it's not even particularly expensive from a manufacturing perspective.
The HD-A20 costs about $320 right now, so make that an extra $220. And most peoples brains to money ratio are such that they won't be buying new televisions every year or two.
Thing is... both formats support the same codecs and have ample transfer rate for 1080p in both MPEG-4 or VC-1. Side by side comparisons tell you about the quality of the encoding and of the player, not of the capability of the format.
If I were in the market, I would personally go HD-DVD on price alone (about $250 last I looked). The theoretically superiority of Blu-ray (in capacity and transfer) means fuck all in the common case. To exceed the practical limit of HD-DVD you've to do something like encode the video at an exceptionally high bitrate, encode your audio in DTS Master Audio (an optional part of the standards, no players on the market actually support it) and try to cram more than four hours on a disc.
Since design and artwork are a larger cost than programming a publisher could write optimized code for each console seperately and still have it be a win. The reasons for exclusivity are likely less to do with performance than mundane business reasons like sales projections, marketing costs, limited retail space and so forth. And since exclusives push hardware sales, I'd bet dollars to donuts one of the main reasons is deals with Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo (underwriting development, revenue advances, free promotion, publishing deals, flat out cash payments, etc).
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Both formats are sufficient for storing 1080p video. Considering the current market penetration of HDTV sets is still less than twenty percent 23 years after the formation of the ATSC, I'd say that is adequately future-proof.
Anyone who's interested in Bluray can easily do a minimal amount of research and discover that the PS3 plays them, and is one of the cheapest players out there.
The minimal research is going to bestbuy.com, circuitcity.com, amazon.com and so forth, and looking at what's in the Blu-Ray Disc Player category. None of the major vendors actually list the Playstation 3 on their websites, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the brick and mortars don't steer people to the game section when they come in and inquire in person. A lot of consumers are intimidated by the idea of extra features, especially ones they have no interest in, and given the game focused marketing I would be surprised if a lot of consumers were leary that movie-playing would be half-assed ancillary function (the lack of a bundled remote would only serve to reinforce that perception).
Go to Newegg, pull up 4GB drives and sort by lowest price one model at $29.99, three models at $32.99, 3 models at $32.99. Not on clearance, no discount.
(And as other responses have pointed out, hard drives are bigger, heavier, noisier and hotter. Add in extra expense for interface and cooling. And keep in mind that a packaged USB drive is going to be significantly more expensive than the raw flash chips.)
Swinging your arm with a two handed controller is awkward. The design change on the controller is as important as the tech.
Not for everyone, sure. It's no skin off my nose if some people place more emphasis on graphics and built-in media players and whatever else it is they see in the PS3 (or 360, for that matter).
You seriously think there have never been real world compromises from OpenSSL and OpenSSH? Absolutely none?
If you look at the specifics of the vulnerabilities, none of the ones discovered so far in the BIND9 codebase have been privilege escalation. Mostly DoS, a couple cache poisons, one client side vulnerability in the backwards compatability stub resolver that's disabled by default, and a case of some leaked environmental variables. In the case of *ss* there are numberous code execution bugs. And yes, some exploits in the wild that led to real compromises.
I already said this in other replies, but it all boils down to sales rank being a poor metric. Another point I missed in my first reply is that the 20GB model being discontinued will also have a net positive effect on the ranking of the 60GB model without any overall sales increase.
Considering that site either deliberately mistates what sales rank means or doesn't understand them, it's kind of hard to take them seriously. Moving from #28 to #1 doesn't translate to a "2800% jump in sales". Depending on how the other items in the category moved a product could sell less and still move up in ranks.
That site also conviently ignores that there were previous two seperate models. A true representation of sales prior to the price cut would also need to reflect the 20GB model, whereas sales rank is calculated on a particular SKU in Amazon's database.
So what that shows is that for that supplier sales of that model went up. Well duh. Sony is saying that they're selling more consoles now that they've dropped the price of the high end model. Again, duh.
You know what else is duh? Trying to divine sales figures from relative sales ranks from a single vendor.
Eh? BIND9 has a relatively tame history in terms of vulnerabilities. Just using the updates to RHEL3 as a quick and dirty metric, there have been two security updates compared to 5 openssh, 6 openssl, 11 php, 12 apache, 20 kernels, etc.
Unfortunately a lot of people seem stuck in the past and still judge BIND from the 4.x and 8.x days.
I personally like my DNS servers to follow the relevent standards personally.
Of course I could go ahead and run the recommended DJB configuring using rsync + openssh to propogate zone files. Then I would avoid the 10 vulnerabilities filed against BIND9 over it's seven year life span, but open myself to the 40 or so against OpenSSH, 30 or so against OpenSSL, and 10 or so against rsync.
Neat trick, considering bind9 is only 7 years old.
I was mostly aiming to illustrate that, as a reliable metric, Amazon's sales rank isn't very useful. Even if there were historical trends provided it's still a relative metric, not absolute, so it can't prove an absolute increase in sales by it's nature. In this case it's even worse because the ranking is relative to another product which is supply constrained disproportionate to the overall market.
It all adds up to an increase in sales due to the PS3 price drop. Something which I completely believe.
Not when the actual number of sales and computed increase in sales you cite are from June, before the price cut. The only supporting evidence is Sony's claim (not that I disbelieve them).
Cult following = The Rocky Horror Picture Show....it was so bad but has a huge following BECAUSE it was bad.
Eh? I wouldn't consider RHPS bad. Budget production, sure, but certainly not bad.
There's at least one well known blog predating that; James Lileks started the Bleat in February 1997.
Most people also don't understand that retailers put high markup on cables, since people don't comparison shop for them - they go bargain hunting for the electronics and then buy whatever accessories they need at the same store. Even if you insist on paying for Monster, you can get the prices for $50, other premimum brands can be found $20-30, respectable brands $10-20 and generics starting at $2.
I generally wouldn't go completely bottom barrel, since construction quality on generics can be spotty, but buying online you'll either get a drastically better price or drastically better cable for the same price.
Who in their right mind wouldn't pick up a PS3 for their HD video( BluRay ) player when for maybe $100 you get a 3rd Gen game console thrown in?
s/maybe $100/twice as much/ (at current market prices)
s/maybe $100/$400 more/ (if the deal mentioned in the link is available)
And with the PS3 you're getting a player that doesn't auto-play when you swap discs (unless you power the player off), doesn't have a remote control, is incompatible with standard universal remotes, and draws a whopping 170W (even playing SD content) necessitating far more fans.
Gold is a non-corrosive and highly conductive. Good choice for plating contacts and connectors. For the quantity necessary for that application, it's not even particularly expensive from a manufacturing perspective.
The HD-A20 costs about $320 right now, so make that an extra $220. And most peoples brains to money ratio are such that they won't be buying new televisions every year or two.
Look just at the game division and the picture isn't very rosy - net loss of $1,969M for the fiscal year.
... disappointing, with a posted loss of $573M.
The final quarter of their 2006 fiscal year was also
And he was clearly deliberately misrepresenting the origional sentiment in able to express his own, dipshit. :)
Thing is ... both formats support the same codecs and have ample transfer rate for 1080p in both MPEG-4 or VC-1. Side by side comparisons tell you about the quality of the encoding and of the player, not of the capability of the format.
If I were in the market, I would personally go HD-DVD on price alone (about $250 last I looked). The theoretically superiority of Blu-ray (in capacity and transfer) means fuck all in the common case. To exceed the practical limit of HD-DVD you've to do something like encode the video at an exceptionally high bitrate, encode your audio in DTS Master Audio (an optional part of the standards, no players on the market actually support it) and try to cram more than four hours on a disc.
Since design and artwork are a larger cost than programming a publisher could write optimized code for each console seperately and still have it be a win. The reasons for exclusivity are likely less to do with performance than mundane business reasons like sales projections, marketing costs, limited retail space and so forth. And since exclusives push hardware sales, I'd bet dollars to donuts one of the main reasons is deals with Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo (underwriting development, revenue advances, free promotion, publishing deals, flat out cash payments, etc).
I can't understand why you posted this in the first place, it's not like the Internet needs more opinions.
Stop posting already.