If they did, your/our ass would be overrun by the Imperial "red" Army (1945-1990) or perhaps the Caliphate/Sultanate (Viena, 1683), so please shut the f up.
Having lived in a dictatorship and now in a democracy I would say I do understand, have you btw ?
What you don't grasp is that socialism intrinsecally leads towards a centralized power, which makes it super easy to go totalitarian. And also why totalitarians love socialism because they can hide so well behind it. Examples abound.
>> I like how you want to sound super smart but can't spell for shit.
I'd say my english is semi-decent, and how are your foreign languages ?
Ok so according to you we have 2 definitions:
1) Socialism as the claim of theoretical utopian hipothesis defined by 1-2-3-4 philosophers.
2) Socialism as the practical result of dousins of states, milions of bureaucrats, bilions of people claiming to implement above theoretical concept. To say they weren't trying would be a flat out lie.
And you say hey, nr1 seems more correct/entitled meaning of the word.
I would say anyone who chooses nr1 is a profoundly TRUE socialist person.
>> Of course if you take money from the industry, you can hardly be a worker's hearo.
Why not ? Seems to me reality quite disagrees with you. Even today most socialists are rich bastards, hell there are even billionaire presidents voted in by the working class.
>> It was not a workers party.
Yes it was in the beginning. It damn certainly wasn't an intellectuals party that's for sure. Or an immigrant's party.
>> And finally, it wasn't really a party. It was a one person dictatorship with cronies orbiting around him
You mean like the vast, vast majority of parties ? Even the big parties suffer from this problem, hi Clinton Foundation!
>> then let Italy have Southern Tyrol
Of course nobody would cut curners with his principles, specially in time of war. No sireee...
>> He was not a socialist.
YES he was. *That* is socialism. That and everywhere it was attempted. Hi Coreea/Venezuela/Cuba/USSR/China/everywhere !
Don't agree with me ?? I'll sick the IRS on you!
So what if the brownshirts were fighting commies ? It's like saying you can't have multiple parties with the same idea duking it out. They were of the same cloth, the socialist murderous one. Whereever socialism went, famine and purges followed. Every, single, time. Hi Venesuela !
Love of allpowerful nanny state ? Check !
Love of god emperor champion of the people ? Check !
Heavy state welfare ? Check ?
Adverse to personal liberties ? Check !
Extreme xenophobia and aggresivity towards others ? Check !
How are they different again ?
All that new world silver the spaniards were pillaging went to china, and they don't like to share:), except for opium....
http://www.chineseargent.com/h...
Why that's exactly what the parent AC said. Let me read again.... yes, exactly what he said, word for word. So let me read your post again, ah i see, you're saying don't educate the public *at all* and give your life to the hands of the machine 110% while you're crossing a 4 way road while juggling 3 oranges, on a unicycle.
It's so nice putting words in ppls mouths.
As i've said it doesn't have to be a win in the classical sense. The Farc crazies held out quite a long while in south america. Wasn't there even a movie about the jews in the polish/belorussian forests ? For some these kinds of things can be the difference between life or death. I'd always like to have the option of armed men that can at least smuggle me over the border in case the cocoa hits the fan.
Who rules our country now ? I won't say the people. But whoever rules our country does not mass kill civilians, like before. Does not keep us malnurished, like before. Does not cut off electricity and heat in winter, like before. Allows us to own our homes, not like before. Allows us to go out of the country, not like before.
Mmmmyeah I would say these new overlords are better than the old overlords... just maybe....
Yes one of the old eastern european block former puppets.
All of which are more or less run by dictators.
This is plain false, we romanians are not run by a dictator (not since 1989), the poles are not run by a dictator, the czechs, the slovaks, the bulgarians none are run by a dictator. Not even Orban who is a nasty piece of work, not even him is a dictator, far from it.
You know who *is* a dictator ? The Tzar, that's who.
I'm not saying my country, America, is any better.
This is what you are not getting, you so so should be. I am. America is a whole lot better. 10x better. Heaven on earth kind of better. Tell me how bad it is when you don't have food in the supermarket, any supermarket. Or when you get picked up in the middle of the night never to return home for wrongspeak. Then we can talk.
You won't win against a modern military.
Don't have to win in the classical sense. See Vietnam, Afganistan, Corea, perhaps even the American Colonies though they were not in modern times.
At the moment your country AMERICA is keeping us free from the emperor, and I thank her for her soldiers camped here.
In my country the last free men that fought the communists/NKVD were the armed ones. And they lasted for years in the forrests. Some of us look up to them and would do the same, and some of us are little spineless dogfemales that have no problem living in chains and should tilt their eyes down when the adults are talking.
Yes, I honestly have to ask.
And I ask because I deal with nonsense every day live directly from people's mouths. Don't you ? Well if you don't then I would say glass sheltered house/ivory tower.
Just look at the crap Trump spouts via Twitter, it's fodder for a 3rd world war.
No, I will not look at that because I have better things to do with my time. Why would you ever follow someone you don't like on Twitter ????
And no, in the land of grown ups that is not fodder for 3rd world war. Wars are not fought over slightly mean remarks. Please read some history and get out of your oversensitive drama bubble.
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If they did, your/our ass would be overrun by the Imperial "red" Army (1945-1990) or perhaps the Caliphate/Sultanate (Viena, 1683), so please shut the f up.
West, it is in a phase of stagnation, of the rich and powerful trying to preserve what they have.
No, what you want to say is overregulation and lack of self-confidence.
A lot better us being America's b*** than being Asia's b*** (this includes Russia ofc). Freedom to choose one's master is still a form of freedom.
Indeed. Someone usually is an authority in at least one aspect of reality.
I see people here asking for examples of out of touchness:
https://ijr.com/2018/04/108406...
noting is just 33 years old, will fare when confronted with hard hitting questions from politicians.
So buaby is gonna be asked 'tough' questions by those mean adults.....?
Having lived in a dictatorship and now in a democracy I would say I do understand, have you btw ?
What you don't grasp is that socialism intrinsecally leads towards a centralized power, which makes it super easy to go totalitarian. And also why totalitarians love socialism because they can hide so well behind it. Examples abound.
>> I like how you want to sound super smart but can't spell for shit.
I'd say my english is semi-decent, and how are your foreign languages ?
Ok so according to you we have 2 definitions:
1) Socialism as the claim of theoretical utopian hipothesis defined by 1-2-3-4 philosophers.
2) Socialism as the practical result of dousins of states, milions of bureaucrats, bilions of people claiming to implement above theoretical concept. To say they weren't trying would be a flat out lie.
And you say hey, nr1 seems more correct/entitled meaning of the word.
I would say anyone who chooses nr1 is a profoundly TRUE socialist person.
Yes it was ! No true scotsman much ?
>> Of course if you take money from the industry, you can hardly be a worker's hearo.
Why not ? Seems to me reality quite disagrees with you. Even today most socialists are rich bastards, hell there are even billionaire presidents voted in by the working class.
>> It was not a workers party.
Yes it was in the beginning. It damn certainly wasn't an intellectuals party that's for sure. Or an immigrant's party.
>> And finally, it wasn't really a party. It was a one person dictatorship with cronies orbiting around him
You mean like the vast, vast majority of parties ? Even the big parties suffer from this problem, hi Clinton Foundation!
>> then let Italy have Southern Tyrol
Of course nobody would cut curners with his principles, specially in time of war. No sireee...
>> He was not a socialist.
YES he was. *That* is socialism. That and everywhere it was attempted. Hi Coreea/Venezuela/Cuba/USSR/China/everywhere ! Don't agree with me ?? I'll sick the IRS on you!
So what if the brownshirts were fighting commies ? It's like saying you can't have multiple parties with the same idea duking it out. They were of the same cloth, the socialist murderous one. Whereever socialism went, famine and purges followed. Every, single, time. Hi Venesuela !
Love of allpowerful nanny state ? Check !
Love of god emperor champion of the people ? Check !
Heavy state welfare ? Check ?
Adverse to personal liberties ? Check !
Extreme xenophobia and aggresivity towards others ? Check !
How are they different again ?
How easily can you start your own university ? Harder than your own company ?
All that new world silver the spaniards were pillaging went to china, and they don't like to share :), except for opium....
http://www.chineseargent.com/h...
That is a problem since they don't believe so many negative stories about Trump.
That is a problem since they don't believe the propaganda I believe in.
Why that's exactly what the parent AC said. Let me read again.... yes, exactly what he said, word for word. So let me read your post again, ah i see, you're saying don't educate the public *at all* and give your life to the hands of the machine 110% while you're crossing a 4 way road while juggling 3 oranges, on a unicycle.
It's so nice putting words in ppls mouths.
As i've said it doesn't have to be a win in the classical sense. The Farc crazies held out quite a long while in south america. Wasn't there even a movie about the jews in the polish/belorussian forests ? For some these kinds of things can be the difference between life or death. I'd always like to have the option of armed men that can at least smuggle me over the border in case the cocoa hits the fan.
Who rules our country now ? I won't say the people. But whoever rules our country does not mass kill civilians, like before. Does not keep us malnurished, like before. Does not cut off electricity and heat in winter, like before. Allows us to own our homes, not like before. Allows us to go out of the country, not like before. Mmmmyeah I would say these new overlords are better than the old overlords... just maybe....
All of which are more or less run by dictators.
This is plain false, we romanians are not run by a dictator (not since 1989), the poles are not run by a dictator, the czechs, the slovaks, the bulgarians none are run by a dictator. Not even Orban who is a nasty piece of work, not even him is a dictator, far from it.
You know who *is* a dictator ? The Tzar, that's who.
I'm not saying my country, America, is any better.
This is what you are not getting, you so so should be. I am. America is a whole lot better. 10x better. Heaven on earth kind of better. Tell me how bad it is when you don't have food in the supermarket, any supermarket. Or when you get picked up in the middle of the night never to return home for wrongspeak. Then we can talk.
You won't win against a modern military.
Don't have to win in the classical sense. See Vietnam, Afganistan, Corea, perhaps even the American Colonies though they were not in modern times.
At the moment your country AMERICA is keeping us free from the emperor, and I thank her for her soldiers camped here.
so factual history is trolling now? Only parent is allowed to be ironic i guess...
In my country the last free men that fought the communists/NKVD were the armed ones. And they lasted for years in the forrests. Some of us look up to them and would do the same, and some of us are little spineless dogfemales that have no problem living in chains and should tilt their eyes down when the adults are talking.
The whole thing is a russian job, clearly.
tactical advantage of having a gun is lost as soon as someone is aware that you do in fact have a gun.
Do you mean running out of bullets? You do know that guns have other functions besides looking pretty.
.... from eastern EU, with love :), thanks !
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not joking
I too have perfect sight in hindsight.
When was there ever no enemy ? Ever ?
What's that now? The world is a good place and unicorns fart rainbows ?
And I ask because I deal with nonsense every day live directly from people's mouths. Don't you ? Well if you don't then I would say glass sheltered house/ivory tower.
Just look at the crap Trump spouts via Twitter, it's fodder for a 3rd world war.
No, I will not look at that because I have better things to do with my time. Why would you ever follow someone you don't like on Twitter ????
And no, in the land of grown ups that is not fodder for 3rd world war. Wars are not fought over slightly mean remarks. Please read some history and get out of your oversensitive drama bubble.