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White House Reportedly Exploring Wartime Rule To Help Coal, Nuclear (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: According to reports from Bloomberg and E&E News, the Trump Administration has been exploring another way to help coal and nuclear generators: the Defense Production Act of 1950. The Act was passed under President Truman. Motivated by the Korean War, it allows the president broad authority to boost U.S. industries that are considered a priority for national security. On Thursday, E&E News cited sources that said "an interagency process is underway" at the White House to examine possible application of the act to the energy industry. The goal would be to give some form of preference to coal and nuclear plants that are struggling to compete with cheap natural gas.
If the DOE decides not to invoke Section 202(c), the president may turn to the Defense Production Act. According to a 2014 summary report (PDF) from the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the act would allow the president to "demand priority for defense-related products," "provide incentives to develop, modernize, and expand defense productive capacity," and establish "a voluntary reserve of trained private sector executives available for emergency federal employment," among other powers. (Some even more permissive applications of the Act were terminated in 1957.) Using the Act to protect coal and nuclear facilities would almost certainly be more controversial, as the link between national defense and keeping uneconomic coal generators running is not well-established. The Administration could apply the Act to "provide or guarantee loans to industry" for material-specific deliveries and production. "The president may also authorize the purchase of 'industrial items or technologies for installation in government or private industrial facilities,'" reports Ars.
If the DOE decides not to invoke Section 202(c), the president may turn to the Defense Production Act. According to a 2014 summary report (PDF) from the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the act would allow the president to "demand priority for defense-related products," "provide incentives to develop, modernize, and expand defense productive capacity," and establish "a voluntary reserve of trained private sector executives available for emergency federal employment," among other powers. (Some even more permissive applications of the Act were terminated in 1957.) Using the Act to protect coal and nuclear facilities would almost certainly be more controversial, as the link between national defense and keeping uneconomic coal generators running is not well-established. The Administration could apply the Act to "provide or guarantee loans to industry" for material-specific deliveries and production. "The president may also authorize the purchase of 'industrial items or technologies for installation in government or private industrial facilities,'" reports Ars.
Seems that the fabled fossil fuel industries must be carefully fed taxpayer dollars just to stay afloat.
So who's the leech here, oil barons?
Solar? Wind? Geothermal? Biomass?
Nope, it's YOU fools.
The horseshoers of America have been having a tough time as of late since the Army isn't using as many warhorses as they used to. #MakeAmericaShodAgain
Oh, and in case Indont see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
Yeah. Because of fracking in the USA and Russian natural gas producers and others World wide, the price of Natural Gas plummeted to where is was much cheaper than coal. Power plants that had no legal reason to do so, switched to NG because it was cheaper.
The Free Market in action.
But it hurt the coal miners. And they paid off certain Senators like, Mitch McConnell and Orin Hatch to lie and say the Obama administration started a "war on coal." (He backtracked after Trump was elected.)
Hannity and Limbaugh (both liars themselves) propagated the lie among their gullible listeners as well as Trolls on facecbook and other places.
Bit as we see, it was all the coal miners bribing Republican Senators to keep their outdated business profitable for themselves.
Good old boys who play together stay together. Im not sure why this is shocking still.
Coal is not clean at all. It causes lots of air pollution, especially in the form of carbon. The carbon dioxide is causing global temperatures to rapidly warm and is threatening mass extinctions. Yet you right wing nutjobs are obsessed with coal. Your obsession with coal is helping to destroy the Earth, along with your obsession with huge SUVs that waste gasoline. Why do you right wing nutjobs hate the Earth?
Even if you cut renewables out, Natural Gas is cheaper to extract, requires fewer workers, and is safer both to burn and acquire. This isn't propping up fossil fuels, this is preferring an industry whose workforce doesn't want to adapt or change.
I don't read AC
Seriously, we have been at war in the Middle East for decades for one reason: energy. It's why we had Gulf War I, Gulf War II, and so many others. Fun fact, did you know the reason we refuse to withdraw from Syria despite the fact that ISIS has been defeated is energy? Yup. A proposed pipeline to supply from Qatar to Europe would weaken Russian influence. That's why we can't stop making war there. So let's not trot out the fiction that energy has nothing to do with national security, because it absolutely does.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
...the White House is reviewing Reconstruction governments of the South, so it can find a precedent to declare California to be in rebellion, and send in the troops to install a provisional government.
He's a conman and he's doing what he knows.
I keep hearing all this bullshit from one side of the aisle about the "free market" being the best thing ever but then when the free market stops promoting their favorite industries then they suddenly need to swoop in and bail them out. What's worse is that they are rapidly expending shared capital: our uncontaminated environment.
The truth of the matter is that goods (including energy generation) should have to pay for the pollution caused by their production. That money can then in turn be used to remove said pollution from the environment. This is how the free market should really be and it would be utterly devastating to regressive industries that pay no mind to the damage they do to our environment.
Unleash the free market and destroy those who are hellbent on destroying the planet.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
A big issue is this: Coal has been steadily automating its mining systems. In 1950 underground mining was at the rate of 0.68 tons per man hour and surface mining was at the rate of 1.9 tons/manhour. By 2011 underground mining was at the rate of 2.76 tons/man hour and surface mining was at 8.8 tons/man hour. There were productivity peaks in 2003 of 4.04 and 10.75 tons/man hour.
So assuming coal had maintained the same level of production between 1950 and 2011, the coal industry would have shed 75% of its manpower due to automation and has proven it can get to 80% reduction if it needs to. Then add in the reduction in coal consumption and it is a no-brainer as to why no one is being hired to work in the mines.
So it Trump tries to boost coal consumption (which is the goal of his actions here); more coal may get produced and purchased, but very few additional workers will be hired. If anything, the mine owners will buy more automated equipment.
Its not like any local town is going to build a coal power plant. Those take years of planning, approvals, oversight, and construction. Power plant planning and construction can easily take five to ten years, beginning to end. So any of this "make people buy more coal" rhetoric is not going to produce more jobs in any of the coal towns that are out there.
Cited Reference:
https://www.eia.gov/totalenerg...
Architectural plans are like computer source code with a couple of differences: You only compile once.
There was an interview a few months back where a top coal guy said that even if they got their "dream list" of regulation repeal, it wouldn't stop coal from dying and that even if there was some small resurgence in coal use, it wouldn't restore those manually driven jobs in Appalachia but would rather built up a little bit out west where they can do much more automated mining.
Is more R&D into advanced GenIV designs like MSR, VHTR, or small modular reactors, and a less punishing regulatory review process. We are abdicating our leadership to China, India, and Europe.
Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. (Isaac Asimov)
I'm impressed!
And I am confident that the voters will correct this problem in November by replacing all the incumbents with honest independents, right?
If you don't Sweep the House, then fuck you! You deserve Trump, and all the other corruption you vote for.
This will not get the votes they are expecting, and is pandering to his ever shrinking base. I can't wait for November.
I agree it's best to be prepared if enemies or wars clog up energy sources, but I'm not convinced the Administration is preparing correctly or just misusing the law to hand out political favors.
Table-ized A.I.
That's what this is. Even worse: it's being done to prop up his core voter support, not for the benefit of the Nation as a whole. More damage to the Country, courtesy of the Trump Administration. It'll take DECADES to fix everything this son of a bitch is doing to us once he's removed from office.
Natural gas is not merely cheap, it also has a relatively low time to spool up for on-demand loads. Coal has a much harder time. Solar and wind have both problems with intermittency and peak loads. While grids can smooth that a bit there's no solution for that in the power source itself. Someday we will have flow batteries to handle surges and bridge short intermittencies, but even when those become technologically mature it's not likely they will have capacities in the giga-joule hour range. So that means some sort of base production with reasonably fast spin up times.
Germany perversely solves this problem by burning coal (cause it's cheaper there than gas, and nukes are out). They solve the spin up time problem by just running the plants all the time whether power is needed or not, then selling the power they don't need to their neighbors over the grid. Sometimes they even sell at a loss. It makes sense to sell at a loss since some money is better than no money if you were going to produce the power anyhow. So ironically the more they deploy solar the more coal they burn.
But if we do have things like flow batteries working for us, it's not just good for solar. It's also good for nuclear power too. These have slower spin up times than gas, but they may be cheaper (depending on how you factor in the externalities of waste and CO2 pollution and mining and fracking). So having stored energy like a battery also helps these become a reliable power source too.
Thus it seems like the future ideal power mix is Nuke+Solar/wind+battery and some off line gas plants for emergencies.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Finally! A year of moderation! Ready for 2019?
Or are you a fascist right wing meritocratic nut-job?
That's circular logic. You have no point.
It's about $18 billion sunk cost (fraud) for that half finished nuclear plant in Georgia.
Oh yeah real free market winning!
is revealed more each day and it is staggering.
Anyone who has ever taken a Constitutional Law course has to have a chuckle at the fact that the Republicans and business interests who so strenuously resisted the DPA in Youngstown Steel and other cases now are working to use it to enable corporate welfare to prop up failing industries during peacetime.
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The time period seems quite in line with Trump’s thinking on most things.
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Talk about picking winners & losers. What happened to the "free market" working its magic?
Crony capitalism is why we need to end the federal government and let the individuals or states for those who believe in big government pick up whatever slack they so desire once the people's money isn't being stolen from them. The republicans can have the south. The democrats can have California, New York, and Massachusetts and for that matter most of the north. The socialists can have Vermont and me and my libertarian mates can have New Hampshire. There is no need to be divided and fight over control of the world when we each can have our own piece of the pie and make out well doing so. There is no good reason for us not to have different forms of government in different places. You can let individuals travel and trade freely in large part without a single monopolistic government everywhere while still maintaining your gun rights- or removing other rights in other places- if that is so important to certain people. I'll give up my right to arm myself when I travel through New York if New York respects my right to arm myself in New Hampshire. This is how the federation of states was suppose to work- but that isn't what we have today with the federal government and the federal government is both stealing from the people and interfering with the freedom of states, the people, and trade rather than promoting it (well, it shouldn't do that either really).
MOST people would take advantage of a rich arrogant ignoramus who thinks they are better than everybody else and entitled to everything they were born into? The EU is doing just fine and will continue to do so whether or not the USA continues to play the fool.
Shale oil is lousy stuff and it's not that cost effective; the current situation is a result of Obama's regulations forcing the use of oil permits coupled with the now repealed Pelosi law forbidding export of US oil/gas. One can expect the market now to rise prices way before supplies dwindle. Nobody in their right mind makes serious national policy plans on shale; go educate yourself.
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A lot better us being America's b*** than being Asia's b*** (this includes Russia ofc). Freedom to choose one's master is still a form of freedom.
You realize we tried this already, right? Madison didn't START with a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. The federalists won that battle easily because of the clusterfuck an ineffective federal government created as a result of the AoC. So, you're right, this IS how the federation of states was supposed to work - and what we figured out very quickly was that it DIDN'T. Hence, a strong federal government.
better review your physics book
Here are some citations that contradict you and support my claims
"Germany’s carbon emissions haven’t declined for nearly a decade and the German Environment Agency calculated that Germany emitted 906 million tons of CO2 in 2016 — the highest in Europe — compared to 902 million in 2015. And 2017’s interim numbers suggest emissions are going to tick up again this year.
Germany is now in serious danger of hitting neither its 2020 nor its 2030 emissions targets, the very benchmarks that it browbeat other nations into adopting at previous climate conferences. Leading German think tanks agree that Germany can’t, at its current rate, slash emissions enough in the next two years to reduce its carbon output by 40 percent (compared to its 1990 levels) or 55 percent by 2030. "
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/...
MIT review:
"Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
Even as Germany adds lots of wind and solar power to the electric grid, the country’s carbon emissions are rising. Will the rest of the world learn from its lesson?"
https://www.technologyreview.c...
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
"Democrats are the ones who pushed the narrative that we are at war with Russia"
They did?
The "Peopel's" money is insignificant when compared with corporate wealth.
That is why multinational oligarchies control big governmental entities in our world. No amount of throwing it back to states will help that because oligarchies control them as well.
How do we mitigate a Yellowstone eruption? By giving the grizzly bears soft slippers to wear when they're tramping around? Giant asbestos blankets over Old Faithful?
Sorry for the silliness above, but exactly what can be done to stop a Yellowstone eruption, if one is immanent?
I think grizzlies already count as having soft, furry slippers. Maybe you think they'd be better off not going around bear foot?
This idea reads like George Orwell's concept of perpetual war in action.
If by imminent, you mean in a year or less, there's nothing we can do but evacuate half the country. If you mean in a hundred years, quite a bit. We can:
There are probably many more mitigation strategies that I haven't thought of. Those are just the first four off the top of my head.
Check out my sci-fi/humor trilogy at PatriotsBooks.
Seems appropriate. He's declaring war on humanity, and his weapon of mass destruction is pollution.
Once upon a time, not long ago, I was generally headed for Vermont and was prepared to encourage my children to settle there also. As a place of natural beauty it ranks highly with many other places, but in uncertain times I felt drawn there for another reason, one in keeping with my technical interests and survivalist tendency.
You see, I wanted to join the folks at Vermont Yankee. Vermont Yankee was the greatest jewel mankind had yet produced: a nuclear power plant connected by direct and exclusive feeder to a nearby hydro station with the capacity to black-start it. This duo (by happenstance) was our grid's most disaster resilient corner, a shining light of engineering. In any scenario without copious liquid hydrocarbons or gas infrastructure damaged beyond repair, these two would have lit an area sufficiently large to empower enough people to successfully defend the region -- for years -- and achieve stable governance. And that region would serve as a beacon of hope to surrounding areas during reconstruction.
But Vermont Yankee has been destroyed by corporate vandals and clueless politics. Now if the worst comes to pass in that area there will be only the ~35MW output of the Vernon Hydro plant. This is sufficient to support a totalitarian feudal barony right around the dam that quickly evolves into an item of tribal conquest with a 'shoot on sight' policy for outsiders. A great place to stay away from.
My June 2017 letter to Energy Secretary Perry was focused on the vulnerability of US natural gas. It is a great pain to state the obvious, but necessary because utility wind and solar has made faux-environmentalists into useful idiot 'crypto-advocates' of gas grid generation. We are on the cusp where a coordinated attack on the gas distribution network in a few places would trigger cascading grid failure, as distant gas plants operating directly from the pipelines drop offline and stay offline for days or weeks. This sentiment has since taken shape as the Trump Administration proposes ways to protect utilities able to stockpile 90 days of fuel on site, and encourages them to do so. It is plain common sense. It comes down to a simple question: Can you supply a compelling reason why the United States electric grid should fail completely within hours of a relatively simple attack?
This letter of mine has been in Donald Trump's possession since May 2, 2016 . If you read it you may discover why I considered Trump the only candidate worthy of such a message. In his pronouncement to pursue energy self-sufficiency in general and consider nuclear an essential part of the mix, there is hope. The others offer nothing but more years of bad road and an obscenely stupid fixation on base load irredeemables (wind and solar). Trump is literally the only one with the courage to stand up to the tripe.
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Nuclear and coal are almost opposite when it comes to power generation
Coal: Cheap upfront, expensive fuel, lots of CO2, widespread pollution, low potential for disaster
Nuclear: Expensive upfront, cheap fuel, almost no CO2, highly localized pollution, possibility of disasters
Indeed, and that one huge Democrat Ronald Regan, damn, talk about a war hawk and the whole Democrat adherence to the grand chessgame to deprive Russia of a pipeline. Finally we're gonna let Russia get their pipeline to MAGA!
Don't forget the oil industry, they need our tax money too!
However, I suspect that he will use it for coal as well, which is stupid and foolish.
First, we already subsidize coal WAY TOO MUCH.
Secondly, we are on the right path in that our coal plants have been being shut down. We need to continue this.
Artificially changing the economics for coal is just plain stupid.
With nukes, it makes sense, since they are clean and more importantly, if we push SMR tech, it is 100% safe.
Likewise, we can burn up most of our nuke waste while converting to energy and ideally, desalinating water for free.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I, and others, repeatedly warned you lefties over the past eight years as you cheered Obama using his "pen and phone" to stretch and abuse government regulations and laws to advance leftwing policy without actual new legislation that he was setting a number of legal and political prececents that a future Republican would be able to use in ways you would hate.
You scoffed at this warning, confident that Obama's importation of millions of illegal aliens and middle easterners were changing the nation's demographics so much that no Republican would ever again occupy the White House.
Now, that the demographics failed you and Hillary proved to be the worst candidate ever and you are watching Trump pull an Obama against you, you are going nutters. It's no wonder you all are stuck on the 2016 election and excuse after excuse. Russia! Russia! Stormy Daniels! Russia! Porn Star! Playboy Bunny! Comey! Russia!
Keep it up. The left made this bed, now it's time to sleep in it. Everybody knows full-well that Obama did this stuff for 8 solid years while all his supporters at ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, MSNBC, CNN etc lectured America that such presidential actions were completely legitimate. Now when you all complain about it the public sees the hypocrisy in big bold neon. Ranting and raving about it now just serves to turn off lots of ordinary people and will only help to re-elect Trump in 2020.
Troll. Troll, trolling, troller!
Democrats never "pushed the narrative that we are at war with Russia." That is a blatant lie; I've literally never heard anyone say that.
You know what I have heard people say? Russia is ruled by an autocrat. Russia suppresses freedom of expression. Russia supports Syria, Georgia, Kazahkstan, and multiple other authoritarian regimes. Russia uses chemical weapons against dissidents, and supports chemical weapons use in Syria. Russia destabilizes neighboring countries (Ukraine) and intimidates others (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia).
So, identifying Russia as a "problem" is pretty easy. Yet you take your marching orders from the Big Giant Head, and that means that autocrats are Perfectly A-OK! Nothing to see here, look away!
Is this the famed small government I keep hearing about?
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
We like to call it WINNING.
Ronald Reagan was not anti-Russia. He was anti Soviet Block because he was anti-socialism (at home and abroad). USSR hasn't existed since 1991. Ronald Reagan was validated when it fell apart. Democrats are against Russia for the same reason they were against Reagan. They are against a right-leaning regime.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge, which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.
During a committee hearing on 03/20/17, Congresswoman Speier, of California, stated that Russia "committed acts of war against the United States". She stated this as a premise of a question she asked of (then) FBI Director James B. Comey and Adm. Mike Rogers, director of the NSA. She didn't ask if Russia committed acts of war. She premised her question on this. Congress has the power to declare war. This wasn't a talk show question. She said this while sitting in her committee chair in a televised hearing. This was not the 1st of these types of accusations from her fellow Democrats and it wasn't the last.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Translation: Welfare for inefficient and old technologies.
Enough said.
Translation: Building and buying old technology to 'help' national defense: A pork-barreling project for an industry famous for delivering under-performing products.
"... guarantee loans to industry" ...
Translation: Provide corporate welfare when a new plant is not economically viable.
Will the money for this come from the defense budget or will he imitate Reagan by increasing military funding by 40% to buy products that can't be delivered?
Nope. McCain (2008) and Romney (2012). You are bad at your trolling job Ivan, go back to training school. You failed army reject!
What the hell do you mean "nope"? here. Who should I believe? Your bullshit or my lying eyes?
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
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Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Retarded Russian troll is retarded.
are you retarded? Well, get treated then. Or are you just a Democrat? Not sure if there is a cure for that. Get an education maybe? Oh, well, how about get a library card? That would be a good start.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Do you not see that to prove that Democrats are not the ones beating the drums of war against Russia you are using "Russian" as an insult to act out against someone accusing Democrats of something? You are proving what I claimed: that Democrats are driving the narrative that only a Russian would be against Democrats. This is a Big Lie about having just perpetrated a Big Lie. I hope you are just having fun with it. Because if you actually have enough IQ points to learn how to type and you still don't see the irony of what you are doing... if you actually believe what you are spewing... damn, that's just another proof of what I've been saying for along time. Eloquent (even mildly eloquent like you) idiots are more dangerous than in-eloquent enemies.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
you are a retarded army reject who can't get a job anywhere but the troll house
ok, then.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
No, Reagan hated hostile aggressors AND Soviets, especially when they were the same, so he would hate Putin's Russia.
Nuclear is very powerful! Listen carefully to what the President of the United States of America has to say about that:
Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
We talked about this, APK. Take your meds or stay offline.
A lot are rightfully asking "how is coal even big enough to wield this much power over the republicans?" The fact is though that the republicans grip on this country is much more tenuous than they acknowledge and it's getting thinner. They've spent all these years demonizing the other side and gerrymandering the hell out of everywhere but the reality is that they only have to lose a few points of support in a few key places and the whole mess will shift.
And it isn't even a case of those people will go vote for dems, they just won't bother to vote and that's all it takes, if they even lose enough energy not to show up on November.
America still uses coal-fired steamers or something?
Slashdot is exploring the clickbait effectivness of fake news headlines that combine the words "wartime" and "nuclear". This whole story is nothing but an unattributed rumor.
Derp 'merica Derp
If coal is such a good idea, why don't people use coal to heat Condo's in New York.
Money where your mouth is.
In the AEO2018 Reference Case, coal-fired electricity generation capacity is projected to decline by 65 gigawatts (GW) from 2018 through 2030, with virtually no retirements from 2030 through 2050.
Although no new coal-fired power generation capacity is built in the AEO2018 Reference case, coal-fired electricity generation is expected to remain relatively flat as coal plant retirements slow and utilization of the remaining coal fleet increases from 56% in 2017 to near 70% by 2030—similar to the average utilization rate in the early 2000s.
Colstrip faces years of environmental cleanup, which will most likely provide jobs for the community as the power plant winds down into the 2040s (by current cleanup estimates).
The federal Energy Information Administration has coal in its energy forecast for a few more decades.
Look is has obviously changed in the past and will continue to do so.
From 1990 to 2009, the net capacity of the U.S. coal-fired power plant fleet remained virtually unchanged, increasing by only 7 Gigawatts (MW) or 2.5% during the entire 17-year period. The output of these plants increased from 1990 to 2007 before falling in 2009. This means that although the existing fleet was not growing in size, plants were being run more intensively. This is reflected in the average capacity factor of the fleet, which rose from 59% to 74% from 1990 to 2007, then fell to 64% in 2009. (Capacity factor refers to the ratio of the actual output of a plant to the theoretical maximum output if the plant ran continuously.)
Who shall we believe the EIA even if they are not perfect . Or a lackey who didn't read the links. One of which was paywalled, one a list of possible closures that matches what was said and one that talked about 1 plant that is likely to close, out of 600+
The lackey of a know compulsive liar...
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Where have you been the last 70 years? Until Trump, it has been more the Republicans pushing Russia / the USSR as the enemy ever since I can remember, except for a brief respite after the USSR broke up.
Just like the Founding Daddies envisioned!
Millions of Americans said "THAT GUY!" for President.. and they wonder why we think you're idiots??
How about bailing out coal industries via education for renewable resource applications?!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
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Remember, the Europeans brought us WWI and WWII - conflagrations that killed, literally, tens of millions.
Except, of course, for Harry S Truman, JFK, LBJ, Jimmy Carter all of whom were Democrats and advanced military action more or less against the USSR.
If by "us", you mean the US, then wasn't it the Japanese who brought WWII to us?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
That's OK. Al Gore proved that the Global Warming will kill us all by 2012.
Even though we aren't dead yet for some strange reason, each extra month is a miracle! It is obviously too late to do anything about the Global Warming now. Any day now.
Also remember Nancy Peeloosey prediction that we all die because of the Net Neutrality repeal. or was it the Trump taxcuts? Dreamers? Wikileaks? Armed school guards?
OK Europe and Japan, then.