I always find myself holding the wheel with one hand, my right, crossed over to around 11. My left SOME-times holds the bottom. I'd give myself a knuckle-sammich if the airbag went off, wouldn't I?
THIS one didn't, no. I made an opinionated comment, you responded in poking my sig as if it applied (which, as I already pointed out, going by its source material it doesn't). I'm referring to a different comment made to me by someone else. Perhaps I made it sound confusing, because I think I DID say 'in this thread', implying that it was this very discussion. Apologies for that.
I'm not demanding you agree with me. Maybe you yourself find some worth in using the stuff for any reason, or want to make it clear that others have the choice to do as they please. My argument to that is that if it affects other people's health, creating stronger strains of the flu, other viruses and what not, people SHOULD be more educated as to how they want to fend of sickness for themselves and their kids. I'm certainly not calling for a ban on the gel, nor wish it to be regulated in some way; I use it myself when I go fishing (a big 'no thanks' to having the germs from a cut-up fish, of course). Yea, I'm opinionated. Sometimes I'm wrong, or present my argument too strongly when I should think deeper about it. Anyway... I'm gonna let this one lie, as going on and on about it doesn't do anything but make me/us look wanky. 'K? Maybe that's reverting to boringness, lol, but I'd rather be boring at this point then look like an argumentative toddler.;)
Why not have those convicted and set for execution sign a form, stating that they would/wouldn't want their bodies donated for organ-harvesting or to science? I remember a case from years and years ago, wherein the executed man chose to donate his body to scientists who wanted to make a 3D "travel" from feet to scalp by slicing the body into paper-width pieces and using computer-imaging to put it altogether, as if it was a flip-book. Gruesome, yes, but the executed knew where their body was going. And, seriously, the video displaying the results WAS super-cool.
I doubt every prisoner sentenced to the death penalty would tick 'yes' on the form, but it gives a level of respect in making it an option. I'm sure some would be glad to do it, as they might see it as a small way to forgive themselves of their crimes--if they regret them, anyway, but some honestly do.
It seems as if there are more people here agreeing with you on this, myself included. If we're downmodded, oh well... making serious restrictions as to how sentences are made and executed (no pun intended) FOR executions sounds more reasonable. Keep a man with failing kidneys away from the prison gates, but after a case is decided upon with the defendant getting the death penalty? Why the heck not?
Oh yes, yes, I've seen these! The Star Wars kid I kinda feel for. I think us geeks have ALL fallen victim to acting out our fave scenes from nerdy movies and the like ("This is our perfect opportunity to act like ninjas!" was how my brother at 13 years old put it once when we were hanging out in the clearing of the woods by our house--and yes, he MEANT it, hard), but we're old enough to have avoided worldwide-ridicule. Still, you gotta have a guilty-giggle.
I'm glad they're okay, of course... but I can't help but think how interesting it'd be if, for one moment in my life, I get to yell, "LOOK OUT, RUSSIAN SATELLITE FRAGMENTS ARE HEADING STRAIGHT FOR US!!" Kinda like the drummer in Jackie Chan's 'Rumble In The Bronx' getting to panic and yell, "HOVERCRAFT!!" in order to clear the area before disaster struck.
Okay, have you ever even listened to that skit, or even read up on Carlin's take on parenting? Fuck my going on and explaining it to you, here's a video on his annoyance with over-parenting, and then this excerpt from his book 'Brain Droppings' wherein he explicitly states how drenching oneself in the crap is dangerous. Since I figure you'll keep your snarky attitude and say "why should I bother with what you have to say, you toad?", here, direct quote:
So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it!Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT! And you know something? In spite of all the so called "risky behavior ".... I never get infections. I don't get em. I don't get colds, I don't get flu, I don't get headaches, I don't get upset stomach, And you know why? Cause I got a good strong immune system! And it gets a lot of practice!
Watch/read for yourself then come back to me, saying I shouldn't use a quote when I'm echoing exactly what the guy's saying. How about you at the very least give the source material of a sig a listen-to BEFORE you comment, claiming someone isn't following its message?
Christ. I've already explained to someone in this thread that yes, I should understand there are exceptions that I should keep in the back of my mind when I see someone using the stuff. Only they did it in a diplomatic manner, instead of with snarky-attitude.
I say we apply Drake's to this. If we can do it with extraterrestrial life on other planets, we can do it with anything. I've done it with the question, "How many cell phones are currently playing the ringtone 'Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell' by Das Racist right now?" Any-thing.
Lol, by my saying 'taking me down a notch' is to say I'm appreciative to have a reasonable, well-spoken person point things out to me that I should have been more careful about. I may be opinionated, sometimes overly so, but it getting an intelligent rebuttal instead of the usual snark given, I really do find it easy to admit I could've been wrong. So that was to say 'thanks', really.:)
Let's say the pedo-hacker, good at what he does, has a preference: a young girl, aged 13, blonde, tiny. Let's say he goes on facebook and finds that preference: name, location, school they go to. Let's say he knows how to get into this chip-system, which might just list their names or giveaway-details (which may or may not be the case, but for argument's sake, it does). Oh hey, there's lil' Jenny McVulnerable, waiting outside for the bus stop.
Yea I know, it's not the USUAL, but things like this bring up the UN-usual.
It is as orwellian as putting RFID in my dogs. Your dog will run into traffic, run away in general or get stolen from your yard. A preteen/teenager, doing wrong, can learn from their own mistakes should they skip school; learning process and general roll call, do you speak it?
Now, if they want to do this to an adult, or forced embed it in a human, that is a DIFFERENT issue. Kids are people too, remember, and the more we try to control them, the more creative they're going to get with their ways of getting out of things--and the angrier and more resentful they're going to be about how society/their parents treat them, to boot. And please, I'd say there are more of these supposed "adults" that need a chip on 'em than schoolkids that play hooky every now and again. If I have the choice between surgically implanting a chip into a serial drunk driver/pedophile/etc.'s brain stem and slipping the device in a kid's pocket, I'd go with the former.
Something tells me that these kids' backpacks are gonna be bulging with extra clothes, leaving their parents wondering why every time they hit refresh on creepyorwellianshit.com their kid hasn't moved from the bleachers by the football field for three hours straight. "Well, at least they're at school!" they say as lil' Bobby's wandering around town in their everyday-outfit with half of his class.
Very true that. I didn't mean to offend, honestly. Perhaps I should have stated it better in saying that I've witnessed/overheard people talking about it as if it's an absolute necessity, even if they aren't critically ill. Ie., a pair of women discussing it at the lunch counter at my work, both of them discussing how they use it 10+ a day whenever they touch money, go to the park, eat out, etc. without any mention of "yes, we have (insert big, compromised health issue) so we need to be careful." I'm not one to start chiding people out out of nowhere, especially if it's just something I roll my eyes at; and I can rationalize the mindset of someone who's honestly germaphobic, and accommodate it as I know it's something they can't help. My main *eyeroll* factor if with the soccer mom type who coats their perfectly-healthy selves and kids, not understanding that they're doing more harm than good. And as I commented to another person, if it IS being needlessly used--which in a good number of cases, it very-much-so is, it affects the health-climate of everyone around them. It's how bigger, stronger diseases/sicknesses develop. The harder a virus or bacteria has to work, the better the strain becomes as it evolves. I especially don't like it when it's forced upon me or my family. If my son's doctor's office puts some on him, I don't mind that so much as their working area is rife with disease possibilities. But just being out, joining other kids or in SCHOOL, I don't agree with that, unless--as you said--there's a person IN the building with serious health issues. It's why I don't complain about not packing peanut-based food in my kid's lunch, as a for instance.
My statements can sometimes come off as 'blanketed', when really, no, I don't mean it to include EVERYONE, yet at least using a skosh of caution when discussing my opinions in a public forum might be warranted, lol.:P At any rate, thanks for bringing me down a notch. I'll definitely keep you in mind.:)
If I lived in Japan, I'd walk around with THE stupidest smile ever, eyes wide as saucers, pretending that everything I'm looking at is the most fascinating thing in the universe. I mean, I do this ALREADY, but I'd up the ante severely, all so I can imagine officials watching the surveillance tapes muttering, "WTF is this chick on?"
And it STINKS. I understand certain places want to make it policy to use it, ie., the little child-care drop off at the local grocery store here, but I hate it. Next time I'm gonna lie and say he's allergic.
Yea? Tell me that when their kids are raging sick because of their lack of exposure, go to school and give something to MY kid. He handles it well and doesn't get sick as often, but when he does, it hits hard because it has to be something BIG to get past his defenses. So yea, I'd live and let live if it wasn't a problem put on others, but it is.
I wanna see the smackdown 'twixt facebook and Mac. I'm not big on Apple, but they'd own FB. Like hell they'd change their product from MacBook to MacElectronicDevice.
Am I the only one who gets a titch annoyed with people who carry antibac-hand-gel everywhere to use at the SLIGHTEST of exposure to the world? I'm not talking people who use it when going to the doc's or at the grocery store if they're touching meat and stuff, but every. damned. time they touch any-thing at all. They're not even germaphobic, it just seems the 'in-thing'. Every time I've used it, I feel like I've taken a dive into an six-foot deep alcohol pool, and it burns.
Boss: Well, you seem like you're just what we're looking for. You're hired. Ms. Applicant: Great! When can I start? Boss: (chuckling) Whoa, Nellie, we just need to get through a few things first! Here's a list of things you must relinquish to this office by closing tonight. (hands over list) Ms. Applicant: My diary? Boss: Mmm, the one with the unicorns and rainbows on the cover. I spotted it through my binocs on your bookshelf last night from the parking lot outside your apartment. Ms. Applicant: Ah, perfectly acceptable and law-abiding. (reads on, nods) My underwear drawer, of course. Boss: We need to know if there's leather in there. I'm sure you understand that we can't have any of THAT going on in the office. Ms. Applicant: No, that's absolutely fine. Do you need my list of family and friends in its entirety, as well? Boss: That's on the list... here. (points) We'll need to call each and every one of them and apply our potential-employee questionnaire to them. I can't divulge that to you; I'm sure you understand. Ms. Applicant: Of course, of course. Boss: Your complacency and blindness to our ridiculous rules is very appreciated, sweetie. I'm sure that by this time next week, you'll be our best burger-flipper we've ever had!
What if there weren't fill-ups, but what you'd get anyway minus a couple gallons? Or cutting out one or two days of driving to work and carpooling (my husband does that with my dad to save gas for BOTH of them, as they work in the same city), uses public transport, etc.? Just saying "this is a stupid idea" without putting more thought behind is extremely dismissive, don't you think? I just laid out a base-plan. How it's carried out and plotted requires more than what I'd said, but I'd thought that much was obvious.
Just opinion: what might bring prices down is how consumers come together on the issue. It wouldn't be a permanent fix--unless it became a regular thing--but if we for just one stinkin' day didn't buy gas, altogether, it would show what control we have. Get enough gas in the days before then hold a national boycott. One dumb day. It'll never happen, however, as the American public is ignorant to their own importance as what they can get done as consumers, too complacent and concerned about their own daily lives to care. We'll bitch and moan but do nothing about it. Still, it'd be nice.
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LOL, I said the same thing. Oops...
I always find myself holding the wheel with one hand, my right, crossed over to around 11. My left SOME-times holds the bottom. I'd give myself a knuckle-sammich if the airbag went off, wouldn't I?
THIS one didn't, no. I made an opinionated comment, you responded in poking my sig as if it applied (which, as I already pointed out, going by its source material it doesn't). I'm referring to a different comment made to me by someone else. Perhaps I made it sound confusing, because I think I DID say 'in this thread', implying that it was this very discussion. Apologies for that.
I'm not demanding you agree with me. Maybe you yourself find some worth in using the stuff for any reason, or want to make it clear that others have the choice to do as they please. My argument to that is that if it affects other people's health, creating stronger strains of the flu, other viruses and what not, people SHOULD be more educated as to how they want to fend of sickness for themselves and their kids. I'm certainly not calling for a ban on the gel, nor wish it to be regulated in some way; I use it myself when I go fishing (a big 'no thanks' to having the germs from a cut-up fish, of course). Yea, I'm opinionated. Sometimes I'm wrong, or present my argument too strongly when I should think deeper about it. Anyway... I'm gonna let this one lie, as going on and on about it doesn't do anything but make me/us look wanky. 'K? Maybe that's reverting to boringness, lol, but I'd rather be boring at this point then look like an argumentative toddler. ;)
Why not have those convicted and set for execution sign a form, stating that they would/wouldn't want their bodies donated for organ-harvesting or to science? I remember a case from years and years ago, wherein the executed man chose to donate his body to scientists who wanted to make a 3D "travel" from feet to scalp by slicing the body into paper-width pieces and using computer-imaging to put it altogether, as if it was a flip-book. Gruesome, yes, but the executed knew where their body was going. And, seriously, the video displaying the results WAS super-cool.
I doubt every prisoner sentenced to the death penalty would tick 'yes' on the form, but it gives a level of respect in making it an option. I'm sure some would be glad to do it, as they might see it as a small way to forgive themselves of their crimes--if they regret them, anyway, but some honestly do.
It seems as if there are more people here agreeing with you on this, myself included. If we're downmodded, oh well... making serious restrictions as to how sentences are made and executed (no pun intended) FOR executions sounds more reasonable. Keep a man with failing kidneys away from the prison gates, but after a case is decided upon with the defendant getting the death penalty? Why the heck not?
Oh yes, yes, I've seen these! The Star Wars kid I kinda feel for. I think us geeks have ALL fallen victim to acting out our fave scenes from nerdy movies and the like ("This is our perfect opportunity to act like ninjas!" was how my brother at 13 years old put it once when we were hanging out in the clearing of the woods by our house--and yes, he MEANT it, hard), but we're old enough to have avoided worldwide-ridicule. Still, you gotta have a guilty-giggle.
I'm glad they're okay, of course... but I can't help but think how interesting it'd be if, for one moment in my life, I get to yell, "LOOK OUT, RUSSIAN SATELLITE FRAGMENTS ARE HEADING STRAIGHT FOR US!!" Kinda like the drummer in Jackie Chan's 'Rumble In The Bronx' getting to panic and yell, "HOVERCRAFT!!" in order to clear the area before disaster struck.
The scary thing is, in this day and age... you COULD be on youtube and never find out. Me and the husband have discussed this at great length. Gulp.
Okay, have you ever even listened to that skit, or even read up on Carlin's take on parenting? Fuck my going on and explaining it to you, here's a video on his annoyance with over-parenting, and then this excerpt from his book 'Brain Droppings' wherein he explicitly states how drenching oneself in the crap is dangerous. Since I figure you'll keep your snarky attitude and say "why should I bother with what you have to say, you toad?", here, direct quote:
So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it!Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT! And you know something? In spite of all the so called "risky behavior ".... I never get infections. I don't get em. I don't get colds, I don't get flu, I don't get headaches, I don't get upset stomach, And you know why? Cause I got a good strong immune system! And it gets a lot of practice!
Watch/read for yourself then come back to me, saying I shouldn't use a quote when I'm echoing exactly what the guy's saying. How about you at the very least give the source material of a sig a listen-to BEFORE you comment, claiming someone isn't following its message?
Christ. I've already explained to someone in this thread that yes, I should understand there are exceptions that I should keep in the back of my mind when I see someone using the stuff. Only they did it in a diplomatic manner, instead of with snarky-attitude.
I say we apply Drake's to this. If we can do it with extraterrestrial life on other planets, we can do it with anything. I've done it with the question, "How many cell phones are currently playing the ringtone 'Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell' by Das Racist right now?" Any-thing.
Lol, by my saying 'taking me down a notch' is to say I'm appreciative to have a reasonable, well-spoken person point things out to me that I should have been more careful about. I may be opinionated, sometimes overly so, but it getting an intelligent rebuttal instead of the usual snark given, I really do find it easy to admit I could've been wrong. So that was to say 'thanks', really. :)
Let's say the pedo-hacker, good at what he does, has a preference: a young girl, aged 13, blonde, tiny. Let's say he goes on facebook and finds that preference: name, location, school they go to. Let's say he knows how to get into this chip-system, which might just list their names or giveaway-details (which may or may not be the case, but for argument's sake, it does). Oh hey, there's lil' Jenny McVulnerable, waiting outside for the bus stop.
Yea I know, it's not the USUAL, but things like this bring up the UN-usual.
It is as orwellian as putting RFID in my dogs. Your dog will run into traffic, run away in general or get stolen from your yard. A preteen/teenager, doing wrong, can learn from their own mistakes should they skip school; learning process and general roll call, do you speak it?
Now, if they want to do this to an adult, or forced embed it in a human, that is a DIFFERENT issue. Kids are people too, remember, and the more we try to control them, the more creative they're going to get with their ways of getting out of things--and the angrier and more resentful they're going to be about how society/their parents treat them, to boot. And please, I'd say there are more of these supposed "adults" that need a chip on 'em than schoolkids that play hooky every now and again. If I have the choice between surgically implanting a chip into a serial drunk driver/pedophile/etc.'s brain stem and slipping the device in a kid's pocket, I'd go with the former.
Something tells me that these kids' backpacks are gonna be bulging with extra clothes, leaving their parents wondering why every time they hit refresh on creepyorwellianshit.com their kid hasn't moved from the bleachers by the football field for three hours straight. "Well, at least they're at school!" they say as lil' Bobby's wandering around town in their everyday-outfit with half of his class.
Very true that. I didn't mean to offend, honestly. Perhaps I should have stated it better in saying that I've witnessed/overheard people talking about it as if it's an absolute necessity, even if they aren't critically ill. Ie., a pair of women discussing it at the lunch counter at my work, both of them discussing how they use it 10+ a day whenever they touch money, go to the park, eat out, etc. without any mention of "yes, we have (insert big, compromised health issue) so we need to be careful." I'm not one to start chiding people out out of nowhere, especially if it's just something I roll my eyes at; and I can rationalize the mindset of someone who's honestly germaphobic, and accommodate it as I know it's something they can't help. My main *eyeroll* factor if with the soccer mom type who coats their perfectly-healthy selves and kids, not understanding that they're doing more harm than good. And as I commented to another person, if it IS being needlessly used--which in a good number of cases, it very-much-so is, it affects the health-climate of everyone around them. It's how bigger, stronger diseases/sicknesses develop. The harder a virus or bacteria has to work, the better the strain becomes as it evolves. I especially don't like it when it's forced upon me or my family. If my son's doctor's office puts some on him, I don't mind that so much as their working area is rife with disease possibilities. But just being out, joining other kids or in SCHOOL, I don't agree with that, unless--as you said--there's a person IN the building with serious health issues. It's why I don't complain about not packing peanut-based food in my kid's lunch, as a for instance.
My statements can sometimes come off as 'blanketed', when really, no, I don't mean it to include EVERYONE, yet at least using a skosh of caution when discussing my opinions in a public forum might be warranted, lol. :P At any rate, thanks for bringing me down a notch. I'll definitely keep you in mind. :)
If I lived in Japan, I'd walk around with THE stupidest smile ever, eyes wide as saucers, pretending that everything I'm looking at is the most fascinating thing in the universe. I mean, I do this ALREADY, but I'd up the ante severely, all so I can imagine officials watching the surveillance tapes muttering, "WTF is this chick on?"
And it STINKS. I understand certain places want to make it policy to use it, ie., the little child-care drop off at the local grocery store here, but I hate it. Next time I'm gonna lie and say he's allergic.
Yea? Tell me that when their kids are raging sick because of their lack of exposure, go to school and give something to MY kid. He handles it well and doesn't get sick as often, but when he does, it hits hard because it has to be something BIG to get past his defenses. So yea, I'd live and let live if it wasn't a problem put on others, but it is.
I wanna see the smackdown 'twixt facebook and Mac. I'm not big on Apple, but they'd own FB. Like hell they'd change their product from MacBook to MacElectronicDevice.
Am I the only one who gets a titch annoyed with people who carry antibac-hand-gel everywhere to use at the SLIGHTEST of exposure to the world? I'm not talking people who use it when going to the doc's or at the grocery store if they're touching meat and stuff, but every. damned. time they touch any-thing at all. They're not even germaphobic, it just seems the 'in-thing'. Every time I've used it, I feel like I've taken a dive into an six-foot deep alcohol pool, and it burns.
Imagine if America, Fuck Yeah! played for an American winning team at the Olympics? That'd be so awk... motherfucking awesome.
But you know so much about it. TOO much. *wary look* ;)
Boss: Well, you seem like you're just what we're looking for. You're hired.
Ms. Applicant: Great! When can I start?
Boss: (chuckling) Whoa, Nellie, we just need to get through a few things first! Here's a list of things you must relinquish to this office by closing tonight. (hands over list)
Ms. Applicant: My diary?
Boss: Mmm, the one with the unicorns and rainbows on the cover. I spotted it through my binocs on your bookshelf last night from the parking lot outside your apartment.
Ms. Applicant: Ah, perfectly acceptable and law-abiding. (reads on, nods) My underwear drawer, of course.
Boss: We need to know if there's leather in there. I'm sure you understand that we can't have any of THAT going on in the office.
Ms. Applicant: No, that's absolutely fine. Do you need my list of family and friends in its entirety, as well?
Boss: That's on the list... here. (points) We'll need to call each and every one of them and apply our potential-employee questionnaire to them. I can't divulge that to you; I'm sure you understand.
Ms. Applicant: Of course, of course.
Boss: Your complacency and blindness to our ridiculous rules is very appreciated, sweetie. I'm sure that by this time next week, you'll be our best burger-flipper we've ever had!
What if there weren't fill-ups, but what you'd get anyway minus a couple gallons? Or cutting out one or two days of driving to work and carpooling (my husband does that with my dad to save gas for BOTH of them, as they work in the same city), uses public transport, etc.? Just saying "this is a stupid idea" without putting more thought behind is extremely dismissive, don't you think? I just laid out a base-plan. How it's carried out and plotted requires more than what I'd said, but I'd thought that much was obvious.
Just opinion: what might bring prices down is how consumers come together on the issue. It wouldn't be a permanent fix--unless it became a regular thing--but if we for just one stinkin' day didn't buy gas, altogether, it would show what control we have. Get enough gas in the days before then hold a national boycott. One dumb day. It'll never happen, however, as the American public is ignorant to their own importance as what they can get done as consumers, too complacent and concerned about their own daily lives to care. We'll bitch and moan but do nothing about it. Still, it'd be nice.