well that's new I wonder if they are going to anything like GTK C bindings ?
and I think that a web server applet is a bad idea
(although implemeting a control function for apache DAV would be good)
and the really good news is
Remapping/Naming of Modifier Keys: emulation of traditional Mac keyboard, where Ctrl is called "Command", Meta "Alt", and Alt "Apple", and "Apple" has the function of Ctrl. Let Meta be called "Win" for MS Windows users. Let a user without a Meta key easily select another modifier (e.g. CTRL_R) to act as Meta.
that is a blessing, I hope that others follow the example and provide an alternitive mapping
(RISCOS had it like this and I got on well with it, same as the mac I use)
hey they can stick cameras in public places as far as I am concerned because well if you do something in a public place then you are doing it to the public and can be recorded by the man walking the dog as well as the police
I have no problems with them taping me walking home but if they want to see inside my house or tape what I say to friends then that's a different matter
compiling for (running on) linux is not new
Intel has compilers for IA32 and IA64
ARM has compilers for ARM arch
IBM has optimised GCC for PowerPC (smart move for IBM)
MIPS pays for optimisations + support to GCC (algorithmics)
the difference is that you will never be able compile the kernel with anything other than GCC because it changes so often and in terms of support kernel hackers will tell you to jump if you try reporting bugs that are solely compiler related and not GCC
Compiling for (running on) linux is a matter of sticking to the standards (like ELF) and the ABI all are documented
(they don't change all that often although they changed this year for GCC 3.x )
Really you have to have someone signed up because most people have tried this and then gone back to GCC because its easy and the performance is not all that different !
(people end up inline assembly anyway if they only have one target which is much better than a compiler can do because it does not know what it does at run time while the developer can at least guess)
fun to see that the big vendors are split MIPS + IBM do GCC after trying out comerial compilers while Intel & ARM adopts a dual policy of funding GCC work and also have a closed version
no single silicon vendor ignores GCC it is one of the backbones to *BSD, Linux HP-UX (kernel compiled with GCC) VX-works (you receive hefty manuals about GCC and GDB when fork out for wind dev suite) and lots more
users include NASA, ESA, Chinese Government, WHO and many more
(people lives depend on GCC every second)
if you want to do research then GCC is a good place to start
we all owe a great deal to people who have put their time and effort into the projects and people who demanded to use it in projects
how about walking up and just takeing the disks before they get encoded
because they are not streamed directly to crpto'd disk they are vunerable
security is lax you can walk onto the set if you want you just got to have the balls to tell the managers where to go and have the right colour band around your wrist
most of the laws that they pass in the US expect that it applies to the whole internet
but really the internet is global
say I downloaded something from a china firm with their servers in china there is nothing in the law that says they have to support or even offer me a refund
do they realise this I mean they say spams illegal in places but really who cares because it sure is not in china
do they get that its not a US thing anymore
and you cant legislate for that (or tax it really)
your best case is that they get taken over because they are not going to make any money when up against
ARM (intel& TI), MIPS (NEC, IDT, PMC) and PowerPC (IBM & MOT)
really its nothing more than fancy VLIW machine
in terms of selling it they have not got a chance outside of the low power x86 market
(where legacy apps need x86 otherwise we would use something else witness MS useing ARM and only ARM for the new WinCE XP)
get real they are screwed because they tried to use the best fabs to get one over on intel (TSMC fabs) and failed
and yes transmeta have not got a hope in this area (anyone with any experance in building real embeded systems knows you cant afford 16MB for code morphing or have the fact that it might not execute in 25 cycles )
but really Intel with StrongARM2 (aka Xscale) has the ropes nobody can licence this off intel so ARM's bussiness model goes out the window
and TI who just use ARM to get their DSP going well
(lets face it a phone is just a DSP and so is a MP3 player (watch out empeg))
both of these dont licence so the only thing that ARM has left is ARM7TDMI and derivertives + makeing up new extenions to arch + macrocells
yes ARM is nice but with Intel killing ST and the rest I dont see where any more revenue comes from for ARM the company
+ the fact that all WinCE XP will be Only ARM
(suspect that Intel cuddled up to MS and got them to see reason much like symbian)
just watch out for MIPS
(I saw a dual 64bit 1GHz on one chip which was nice)
and for SOC parts there is always the ex strongARM design team http://www.alchemysemi.com/
which seem to be doing very well with more on chip and lower power than StrongARM + can alter clock speed
lets face it MIPS is one of the oldies but goodies
what cant handle a backup?
Xdrive, co-location servers anything stored on the internet
WHY ?
SIZE matters
most people documents are fine but when a company has 2TBthen things change a bit really a full backup takes most of the night and is a real pain it has to be done to a fast location and also to a cheap device (you want more than one backup dont you!) that means DLT or some other tape then you simply take tape along to fire safe and send a copy to storage offsite so what am I saying ? Tar & gzip are your friend (dont mention veritas;-)
really this is asking where can i store a couple of my personal files which the answer is
WebDAV
linux has DAVfs and there are a couple of utils
this is nice because MacOS suports it as well as windows (those funky office 2k and XP file dialogs have it as a selection )
yes sharp have been developeing a ARM based PDA which looks like a apple newton
yes psion have been developeing a arm based PDA which looks like a newton
infact with palm switching to ARM powered solution all PDA's and Phones (name a recent cell phone that dosent use an ARM) means that APPLE did the right thing (ARM was created when APPLE and ACORN needed cash so ACORN spun off those people and they worked to create a proc for a PDA which became the newton)
funny thing is about 7 YEARs ago I saw the gas man come round to do a service and he carried a newton which did all his schedualing he pluged in the modem and told them the job was done and got messaged the next job address and details
apple canned it now its taken 7years to people get back to that concept !
also the irony is that INTEL manufactor the StrongARM and StrongARM2 (aka Xscale) so between IA64 and StrongARM they have the microprocessor market
history repeats itself make sure you remember the good ideas !
HP engineers are nice because they are into the team thing
I wonder how long until Intel or AMD get down there and start recruiting
realistically Intel needs help with IA64 because it's compiler is not really up to scratch (witness the compaq/digital guys moveing to intel)
AMD needs to get O/S AND Compiler to work on x86-64 realistically the new win2k kernel to work on it
so I dont think that they will be unemployed for long
its a big gaff on HP part because HP-UX was going to be the successor going from PA-RISC to IA64 meaning that customers had very little to worry about compared to True64 customers
the only real big guys not laying off core people seems to be SUN
(remember that alot of linux people got layed off as well recently )
so remember good engineers are never in need of a job just projects that need good engineers the problem is of course finding the true good engineers
hmm suspect that they just didnt want the expense of makeing the units
lets face it as soon as they where taken over they had lots of money and no motivation to keep selling the product
they did the development on the homePNA systems so got alot of revenue through development work
but what really killed them was that ARM went out and did them an core that they could use to do MP3 and WMA decode in the RIO 800 so its mostly hardware now compared to a mostly software solution
like other things the funtionality it got moved into hardware
regards
john jones
p.s. check out the photo of taco on the BBS
p.p.s. ed I am writeing a compiler for Xscale (-;
most people use a standard paint package people who want more do it with visio (why do you think MS took it over ?)
people round here have been useing Xfig for a LONG time and can import the drawings into ANYTHING (most packages have xfig filters if not PostScript is your friend) being able to import it helps alot
yes Gnome has Dia and KDE has viso knockoff but realy Xfig might look clunky but its packed full of features that networking people have been useing for YEARS not a couple of mounths and ALOT of books diagrams have been done in xfig
java has lots of features to run in a sandbox and verifying the bytecodes + grant access if you ask for it
this would have to be added to any other implemtation
fankly I dont need another way of downloading rubish
text is enough to conveiw most information well why do you need anything else?
(pictures are handled by jpeg and PNG )
so WHY ?
games I think are the most use I have played lots of flash and applet golf games on the net but appart from that I have never used applets
oh and I think that phones running a java VM(so you can play games appart from snake) will be more prolific over the next 2 years so that battle is over
"oh google fantastic it got me the results I needed"- researcher
"oh the libraries fantastic they showed me the indexes and then I went and got the best book"- researcher
this is the old way of doing things not anything new
its called Impact Factor this is how often a paper is cited by other papers in their bibliography (an equivalent in a home page would be links section). This then determines how good the paper is and so a journal with a high impact factor is seen as better than one with a low one because people use articles from it a lot. In turn journals then demand more money from the library to buy it or advertiser if they run adverts.
But get this some high brow journals cost $10,000 for a years subs that every library in the land has to stock because they have such high impact factor.
On top of this if you want to publish where do you publish? In a high impact factor journal because your work is going to be seen and often you grant is linked to impact factor. So researchers are so desperate to get their money they give copyright of their work to journals .
And of course this self perpetuates with the best work going to high brow journals the winners are the Publishers not the people doing the work or the libraries that hold the research.
What is needed is to break the cycle is for researchers to publish online to a respected website and to keep copyright of their work and for funding companies / governments to acknowledge these as having an impact factor (may be based on unique viewing of page I suppose ) and the libraries to stop paying them!
Please encourage you local libraries and governments to do this !
yeah great for you being in the US but this is a year old tech in euro 2 years old in jap
why beacuse the feds dont like weak crpto in GSM
(although they know how to break it they dont want to retool all their agents with new tools)
as for the phone it most likely is an ARM7 based phone with a DSP for the codecs
it proberly runs VxWorks from wind (wrs.com) or ITron wich the japanease like very much for some reason
linux already runs on ARM arch so no porting required (70% of shiped uprocessors are ARM so its not hard to find engineers)
no you cant sync it unless you know the custom way they do it best hope is to SMS all your numbers to an email account and pull them out of there (actually it costs less and is quicker just to type them in)
the only real hop is to buy a nokia (wich do MP3 as well) which people have a sync agent for (not sure about the symbian based one though (MP3 player on the symbian based one))
or complain and dont buy it and demand open stanards
(the syncML is not an open standard just one you have to pay for )
mind you syncML has a agent on linux thanks to IBM so that may help
in summary no sorry not until they sort out java and symbian/palm/WinCE phones will we have decent support
BUT NFS is here to stay because of the intall base
The way OpenAFS is going to get anywhere is by provideing INSTALLERS for Win NT, Win 2000 and linux.
Why ?
By provideing a same way in wich to share your data over ONE transport is something people would like (and dont mind paying a bit for) but the relitive ease of which a SMB & NFS enviroments can exist is the choaker.
I would love this to happen so all credit to the engineers on the project.
regards
john jones
p.s. you wont replace NFS for some time as it is very light weight for clients and so good for that small set top box (-;
Slashdot Mirror
they state that they will have C bindings
well that's new I wonder if they are going to anything like GTK C bindings ?
and I think that a web server applet is a bad idea
(although implemeting a control function for apache DAV would be good)
and the really good news is
Remapping/Naming of Modifier Keys: emulation of traditional Mac keyboard, where Ctrl is called "Command", Meta "Alt", and Alt "Apple", and "Apple" has the function of Ctrl. Let Meta be called "Win" for MS Windows users. Let a user without a Meta key easily select another modifier (e.g. CTRL_R) to act as Meta.
that is a blessing, I hope that others follow the example and provide an alternitive mapping
(RISCOS had it like this and I got on well with it, same as the mac I use)
regards
john jones
hey they can stick cameras in public places as far as I am concerned because well if you do something in a public place then you are doing it to the public and can be recorded by the man walking the dog as well as the police
I have no problems with them taping me walking home but if they want to see inside my house or tape what I say to friends then that's a different matter
regards
john jones
compiling for (running on) linux is not new
Intel has compilers for IA32 and IA64
ARM has compilers for ARM arch
IBM has optimised GCC for PowerPC (smart move for IBM)
MIPS pays for optimisations + support to GCC (algorithmics)
the difference is that you will never be able compile the kernel with anything other than GCC because it changes so often and in terms of support kernel hackers will tell you to jump if you try reporting bugs that are solely compiler related and not GCC
Compiling for (running on) linux is a matter of sticking to the standards (like ELF) and the ABI all are documented
(they don't change all that often although they changed this year for GCC 3.x )
Really you have to have someone signed up because most people have tried this and then gone back to GCC because its easy and the performance is not all that different !
(people end up inline assembly anyway if they only have one target which is much better than a compiler can do because it does not know what it does at run time while the developer can at least guess)
fun to see that the big vendors are split MIPS + IBM do GCC after trying out comerial compilers while Intel & ARM adopts a dual policy of funding GCC work and also have a closed version
no single silicon vendor ignores GCC
it is one of the backbones to *BSD, Linux HP-UX (kernel compiled with GCC) VX-works (you receive hefty manuals about GCC and GDB when fork out for wind dev suite) and lots more
users include NASA, ESA, Chinese Government, WHO and many more
(people lives depend on GCC every second)
if you want to do research then GCC is a good place to start
we all owe a great deal to people who have put their time and effort into the projects and people who demanded to use it in projects
regards
john jones
yeah great
how about walking up and just takeing the disks before they get encoded
because they are not streamed directly to crpto'd disk they are vunerable
security is lax you can walk onto the set if you want you just got to have the balls to tell the managers where to go and have the right colour band around your wrist
regards
john jones
wake up vx-works and Itron are some of the most deployed O/S's in the world so what do you call niche ?
ones that the general public uses ?
(ever thought about the O/S in a mobile phone)
or even yourt Set Top Box pluged into your TV
just because it doesnt screem the version and who made it does not make it less of a O/S
regards
john jones
p.s. oh and linux need to sort out threading I found out today (-;
most of the laws that they pass in the US expect that it applies to the whole internet
but really the internet is global
say I downloaded something from a china firm with their servers in china there is nothing in the law that says they have to support or even offer me a refund
do they realise this I mean they say spams illegal in places but really who cares because it sure is not in china
do they get that its not a US thing anymore
and you cant legislate for that (or tax it really)
regards
john jones
your best case is that they get taken over because they are not going to make any money when up against
ARM (intel& TI), MIPS (NEC, IDT, PMC) and PowerPC (IBM & MOT)
really its nothing more than fancy VLIW machine
in terms of selling it they have not got a chance outside of the low power x86 market
(where legacy apps need x86 otherwise we would use something else witness MS useing ARM and only ARM for the new WinCE XP)
get real they are screwed because they tried to use the best fabs to get one over on intel (TSMC fabs) and failed
regards
john jones
yes ARM arch is nice and well designed ISA
and yes transmeta have not got a hope in this area
(anyone with any experance in building real embeded systems knows you cant afford 16MB for code morphing or have the fact that it might not execute in 25 cycles )
but really Intel with StrongARM2 (aka Xscale) has the ropes nobody can licence this off intel so ARM's bussiness model goes out the window
and TI who just use ARM to get their DSP going well
(lets face it a phone is just a DSP and so is a MP3 player (watch out empeg))
both of these dont licence so the only thing that ARM has left is ARM7TDMI and derivertives + makeing up new extenions to arch + macrocells
yes ARM is nice but with Intel killing ST and the rest I dont see where any more revenue comes from for ARM the company
+ the fact that all WinCE XP will be Only ARM
(suspect that Intel cuddled up to MS and got them to see reason much like symbian)
just watch out for MIPS
(I saw a dual 64bit 1GHz on one chip which was nice)
and for SOC parts there is always the ex strongARM design team http://www.alchemysemi.com/
which seem to be doing very well with more on chip and lower power than StrongARM + can alter clock speed
lets face it MIPS is one of the oldies but goodies
regards
john jones
any devent crime syndicates have crypto and look out for things like keyboard taps
so really its a silly thing to say
all the criminals have crypto and really dont care about this
its back to actually solveing crime the old ways instead of recording phones and opening mail
regards
john jones
why not ?
because the important messages are not sent through a U.S. ISP so this does not applie to them
why do you think that the NSA has listening posts in the UK and Australia ?
so it can listen to phone conversations in china, europe and middle east
why do you think they fly planes over china full of black boxs
this is just an attempt of a company to make money out of legislation, that concept is not exactly new
for what its worth I think an ISP should run Altivore at least then they know that it wont screw up their network
regards
john jones
what cant handle a backup?
;-)
Xdrive, co-location servers anything stored on the internet
WHY ?
SIZE matters
most people documents are fine but when a company has 2TBthen things change a bit really a full backup takes most of the night and is a real pain it has to be done to a fast location and also to a cheap device (you want more than one backup dont you!) that means DLT or some other tape then you simply take tape along to fire safe and send a copy to storage offsite so what am I saying ? Tar & gzip are your friend (dont mention veritas
really this is asking where can i store a couple of my personal files which the answer is
WebDAV
linux has DAVfs and there are a couple of utils
this is nice because MacOS suports it as well as windows (those funky office 2k and XP file dialogs have it as a selection )
really its quite simple
regards
john jones
you need to have a sound card with digital out
........
;-)
why ?
because of all the noise (electrickery noise) that your computer + monitor keyboard
then get yourself a decent amp with 5.1 out
why ?
a decent pre/power amp alows much more to be hooked up
I have a seperate DVD player and TV and I like digital radio and analoge tapes
so this way my needs all come out of the same high quality speakers (which tend to be quite cheap £ wise)
get yourself a good amp is my advice
they dont cost that much if you dont go for a sony (-;
look around their are bargins to be had
(the cost of valves is low so why not make your own
regards
john jones
does anyone find this funny ?
yes sharp have been developeing a ARM based PDA which looks like a apple newton
yes psion have been developeing a arm based PDA which looks like a newton
infact with palm switching to ARM powered solution all PDA's and Phones (name a recent cell phone that dosent use an ARM) means that APPLE did the right thing (ARM was created when APPLE and ACORN needed cash so ACORN spun off those people and they worked to create a proc for a PDA which became the newton)
funny thing is about 7 YEARs ago I saw the gas man come round to do a service and he carried a newton which did all his schedualing he pluged in the modem and told them the job was done and got messaged the next job address and details
apple canned it now its taken 7years to people get back to that concept !
also the irony is that INTEL manufactor the StrongARM and StrongARM2 (aka Xscale) so between IA64 and StrongARM they have the microprocessor market
history repeats itself make sure you remember the good ideas !
regards
john jones
HP engineers are nice because they are into the team thing
I wonder how long until Intel or AMD get down there and start recruiting
realistically Intel needs help with IA64 because it's compiler is not really up to scratch (witness the compaq/digital guys moveing to intel)
AMD needs to get O/S AND Compiler to work on x86-64 realistically the new win2k kernel to work on it
so I dont think that they will be unemployed for long
its a big gaff on HP part because HP-UX was going to be the successor going from PA-RISC to IA64 meaning that customers had very little to worry about compared to True64 customers
the only real big guys not laying off core people seems to be SUN
(remember that alot of linux people got layed off as well recently )
so remember good engineers are never in need of a job just projects that need good engineers the problem is of course finding the true good engineers
regards
john "curently trying to get a job" jones
great I have to download a japanese version of redhat just so I can veiw kanji ?
thats where I think many distros fall down I want english as well as japanese and German
just being able to veiw japanease chars is a pain let alone printing them
anyone know an easy way to veiw CJK in a email+ browser ?
regards
john jones
come on its just a standard x86 box your talking about (I think since you messed up the model no.)
lots of companies do it redhat for one (plus lots of consultants)
what would be intresting is if you mean a MIPS box
now I dont think linux-MIPS has even got a maintainer at the mo so I dont know
regards
john jones
this is very U.S. (what else its slashdot they cry)
......
what would be news is if someone in a country where CD copying goes on under the noses of the authoritys
like china or
realistically the U.S. seems to be how long you can drag it out in court
IBM got done for same thing as MS differance IBM lasted for 17 years in court but MS got there in a year and still is not out of it
"we are born in open feilds and die in a dark forest"
regards
john jones
hmm suspect that they just didnt want the expense of makeing the units
lets face it as soon as they where taken over they had lots of money and no motivation to keep selling the product
they did the development on the homePNA systems so got alot of revenue through development work
but what really killed them was that ARM went out and did them an core that they could use to do MP3 and WMA decode in the RIO 800 so its mostly hardware now compared to a mostly software solution
like other things the funtionality it got moved into hardware
regards
john jones
p.s. check out the photo of taco on the BBS
p.p.s. ed I am writeing a compiler for Xscale (-;
most people use a standard paint package people who want more do it with visio (why do you think MS took it over ?)
people round here have been useing Xfig for a LONG time and can import the drawings into ANYTHING (most packages have xfig filters if not PostScript is your friend) being able to import it helps alot
yes Gnome has Dia and KDE has viso knockoff but realy Xfig might look clunky but its packed full of features that networking people have been useing for YEARS not a couple of mounths and ALOT of books diagrams have been done in xfig
so my recomendation is you guessed http://www.xfig.org/
regards
john
how do you sandbox the implementation ?
java has lots of features to run in a sandbox and verifying the bytecodes + grant access if you ask for it
this would have to be added to any other implemtation
fankly I dont need another way of downloading rubish
text is enough to conveiw most information well why do you need anything else?
(pictures are handled by jpeg and PNG )
so WHY ?
games I think are the most use I have played lots of flash and applet golf games on the net but appart from that I have never used applets
oh and I think that phones running a java VM(so you can play games appart from snake) will be more prolific over the next 2 years so that battle is over
regards
john jones
"oh google fantastic it got me the results I needed"- researcher
"oh the libraries fantastic they showed me the indexes and then I went and got the best book"- researcher
this is the old way of doing things not anything new
its called Impact Factor this is how often a paper is cited by other papers in their bibliography (an equivalent in a home page would be links section). This then determines how good the paper is and so a journal with a high impact factor is seen as better than one with a low one because people use articles from it a lot. In turn journals then demand more money from the library to buy it or advertiser if they run adverts.
But get this some high brow journals cost $10,000 for a years subs that every library in the land has to stock because they have such high impact factor.
On top of this if you want to publish where do you publish? In a high impact factor journal because your work is going to be seen and often you grant is linked to impact factor. So researchers are so desperate to get their money they give copyright of their work to journals .
And of course this self perpetuates with the best work going to high brow journals the winners are the Publishers not the people doing the work or the libraries that hold the research.
What is needed is to break the cycle is for researchers to publish online to a respected website and to keep copyright of their work and for funding companies / governments to acknowledge these as having an impact factor (may be based on unique viewing of page I suppose ) and the libraries to stop paying them!
Please encourage you local libraries and governments to do this !
Regards
John Jones
yeah great for you being in the US but this is a year old tech in euro 2 years old in jap
why beacuse the feds dont like weak crpto in GSM
(although they know how to break it they dont want to retool all their agents with new tools)
as for the phone it most likely is an ARM7 based phone with a DSP for the codecs
it proberly runs VxWorks from wind (wrs.com) or ITron wich the japanease like very much for some reason
linux already runs on ARM arch so no porting required (70% of shiped uprocessors are ARM so its not hard to find engineers)
no you cant sync it unless you know the custom way they do it best hope is to SMS all your numbers to an email account and pull them out of there (actually it costs less and is quicker just to type them in)
the only real hop is to buy a nokia (wich do MP3 as well) which people have a sync agent for (not sure about the symbian based one though (MP3 player on the symbian based one))
or complain and dont buy it and demand open stanards
(the syncML is not an open standard just one you have to pay for )
mind you syncML has a agent on linux thanks to IBM so that may help
in summary no sorry not until they sort out java and symbian/palm/WinCE phones will we have decent support
regards
john jones
come on sort it
thats the sort of FUD that gets alot of people angry
LOTS of people (and by this I mean end users) have used token ring drivers with complete success
the poster knew this
so what are they looking for ?
help with their card and hardware ?
(which it seems is the problem)
info needed
kernel version
card ID
machine ID
and maybe a trace of the network
to say IT DONT WORK is cave man like in the extream even kids as young as 7 know that to fix something that you cant see you need to have it described
regards
john jones
p.s. what kind of editor runs this ?
BBC reported that a US statesman as saying this is the second pearl harbour
It is not
think
how many bombs have gone off in london how many lives have been lost in west bank
how many people have died because of veiws of a few
dont go assumeing that this wont happen again and again
the world you live in is full of hate dont add to it
regards
john jones
BUT NFS is here to stay because of the intall base
The way OpenAFS is going to get anywhere is by provideing INSTALLERS for Win NT, Win 2000 and linux.
Why ?
By provideing a same way in wich to share your data over ONE transport is something people would like (and dont mind paying a bit for) but the relitive ease of which a SMB & NFS enviroments can exist is the choaker.
I would love this to happen so all credit to the engineers on the project.
regards
john jones
p.s. you wont replace NFS for some time as it is very light weight for clients and so good for that small set top box (-;