it IS about race, for republicans. down deep, they are the modern minority-haters and have been for decades, now. not forever, (things were reversed previous to that) but now, they are the poster boys of 'if you are not white, straight and christian, we're against you'.
no ideology anyone could have would create this much anger in a group of people - it HAS to be race. america never got right about how to deal with race issues and this pretty much proves it.
I find it cute that others deny this. its the (white) elephant in the room that the other side refuses to admit. and of course they won't admit it, to admit such a thing today is pretty much already on the wrong side of history.
the anti-gay trend in the red states is more proof of 'if you aint a christian you're not one of us and we will shun you' belief. again, pure republican minority hatred.
now, I totally dislike obama these days, but its because of how he turned his back on the liberal ideas and has become a push-over for the power brokers who control him and own him. he never did much good for the liberal cause (partly because he was blocked by the R's, but also because he really didn't TRY all that much. not sure if he was lying to us or just ignorant of how little control he'd have as president).
the R's always hated him, and the D's now hate him for betraying them and their principles. he's not going to be remembered well by history. too bad, there was a lot of potential there, but it was all misused.
perhaps this really is proof: no matter who you put in that office, the office will ruin them.
I do think its time to redo our whole system. if your code base is so old, so tangled, so full of exception code and has more exceptions than rules, its time to scrap it and start over. and yes, I'm arguing for a complete re-do of our laws, our government and it needs to come sooner rather than later if we are to salvage what is left of our once great country.
I'm waiting to hear if this is truly as described.
I cannot believe anyone can make a law (in the US) that denies the ability of people to donate to the cause of their choice. especially a defense fund.
then again, if snowden is declared 'an enemy' I guess even assholes like our president can get away with murder. and yes, murder is what he's pretty much shooting for, one way or another, with snowden.
one thing amuses me and I enjoy it quite a lot: the fact that our executive is so pissed off and annoyed, along with all the other agencies - I rather LIKE THAT! I enjoy seeing them angry and put into a corner where they cannot defend themselves. and so far, they have not defended themselves one bit; we all know who the real traitors and cowards are.
snowden, you tweaked those in the highest levels of power in the world. for that, I say THANK YOU. I wish I could do more to help you - we all owe you so much.
obama - you're an asshole, if this story is true. shame on you! pathetic loser of a president who cannot admit that he and his cronies were wrong, wrong, wrong.
the great Short Attention Span Company(tm) EOLs phones like there's no tomorrow. my older google phone is stuck at android 2.x and will never get updates. I don't care about features, but I'd like kernel, ip-stack and some onboard apps to have fixes for security.
it won't ever happen. we don't really own our phones. and we are suppose to keep landfilling perfectly fine hardware - to keep the monsters in high profit.
even if I ran no apps at all, the os is buggy and full of weaknesses. I'm sure I could be attacked with an old 2.2 android os, probably in just a few minutes time.
this is why I hate phones and have zero interest in spending more money and time on this crap. the ceo's might have gotton it right: use dumb feature phones and be more secure!
OT, but related to your comment: I have been fighting battles with companies in the bay area who want to hire people but only if they can sleaze by via 'contract to hire' (really, its a misspelling: the correct spelling is 'contract to FIRE'). this saves them 3 or 6months of benefits, all the while treating you like an employee (long hours, occasional unpaid weekends, take your work laptop home (yes, contractors are being told this).
companies know its all about denying benefits to americans. mostly its us older guys (ie, the ones who need health insurance the most). and they try to convince you its about 'try before you buy' but that's just a stupid lie. I've known contractors stuck on that role for way more than 6mos. look employers, if it takes you even 3 months to know if the guy you have working for you is good or not, I'd be surprised. 6mos? that's just a cost savings for YOU. lets push the benefits cost down on the employee for as long as we can.
its because none of us in tech have unions anymore. there's no one to fight for our rights. sure, as a kid, you think you don't need them. come back in 20 or 30 yrs when you find that to be untrue for you. its not what you need NOW, its what all of us eventually need. WE NEED UNIONS. and yes, they can be evil, but companies are already the definition of modern evil. it takes a monster to fight a monster and lets have the 2 monsters fight each other rather than one of them fighting ME.
and so, I spend the last 10 years doing contracts, unwillingly, since that is ALL that is offered to me. 30 yrs of software and hardware, doing lots of things, but I have 'dont give this guy a fulltime job with benfits' written all over my forehead. apparently.
the overall name of the american game: become rich, screw everyone you can, deny you are doing anything ethically wrong. seems to be working for the elite. for the rest of us, life was better 20 or 30 yrs ago before all this 'deny you benefits... becase we can!' shit started happening.
if you want to whore yourself out and turn the clock back on privacy and individual rights, sure, go right ahead.
I consider google workers to be whores, too. and facebook. people who can convince themselves that they are doing good work, but really, they are turning back the clock on progress and freedom.
if you work for the surveillance state, you deserve your own private hell. I firmly believe that. I hope I am not ever forced to decide between caving in and working for evil companies vs putting bread on the table. I've seen MORE than my share of being out of work, but so far, I have not had to work for truly evil places. those that willingly choose that, those are the traitors among us.
and there are huge strings attached. you have to promise (writing) not to due them for any reason, ever. you have to obey other rules (never say anything bad about them on forums, etc etc).
and if you are a contractor, you get walked out in 0 or 1 days, no severance, no nothing. last time I was let go (as a contractor) the manager didn't even have the common human courtesy to speak to me or give me the reason for the dismissal. total surprise, came out of nowhere (I was meeting my deadlines and my work was well received). yet, I got a call from the job shop saying 'pack up, tomorrow is your last day. no discussion allowed. bye.'
yes, the US is a fucking nightmare for employment. if you have not seen this YET, you will. get to a certain age and you'll find its nothing BUT this kind of bullshit.
we need a new new deal. companies are going back to their bad old ways, from 100 years ago. slowly but surely, they are. not good for workers anymore. you are a cog, nothing more.
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
there is no loyalty anymore, so why play old games that are no longer valid?
you are a cog. you are just a worker.
just leave on the say you give notice. business is business, tell them you need to do what's best for you and that means leaving today.
they won't give you the same respect they 'expect' from you, so don't give it to them (anymore).
sad that its like this, but IT IS. only newbies and fools have loyalty to companies, now.
a company I was at more than 10 yrs ago ran MS email. some of us ran unix email (I think I was into qmail at the time) and the sysadmin was a friend, so I was left alone and had my linux box do my desktop work. was not forced to use windows. back then, it was atypical, but we used a form of bsd in our products and so the unix guys were not a small minority. still, I was one of the few who used only unix email, for corp stuff.
one day I get an email from some marketing guy, then a few minutes another email from 'the server' saying 'xyz would like to recall email 123' or something like that. too damned funny - the email was sent, it was poped or imaped out and into my qmail system, then into my user agent - and this guy - via the server - is asking me to delete the message.
but - well - I already received and read it! does 'your server' want me to unsee it? is that even possible?;)
no one else saw the email. they went thru exchange and exchange did dutifully delete it before everyone else could even know it was there. but there is no 'reach over and delete' when I imap that thing out and its saved in my maildir.
just too funny. the MS guys really do think the whole world is MS.
no, you do NOT DESERVE any such 'freedom' to hate people based solely on a religious reason.
the idea of civil rights was to step in when businesses were NOT self-policing. time and time again, business owners do the wrong thing (they think they are gods and untouchable) and when society finally gets pissed off enough, then laws are enacted to force bad actors to behave.
except, in this case, they went the wrong way. it was not the will of the people, but the will of a very small minority who demands that everyone play by their 2000 year old set of rules; or at least how they think those rules should be understood and followed.
you know what's right and what's wrong. we don't have to teach you that. you know, in your heart, that discrimination like this is very wrong; but you use some twisted congnative dissonance to convince yourself that its 'a form of freedom to be able to hate anyone you want'. I guess it is, but there's a bright line between hating someone for their belief system and denying them service in a public store or setting. you can hate them all you want - till the cows come home. that's your freedom right there. you are not forced to party with them, befriend them, marry them or go to church with them. that's all allowed in a free society.
but the line stands when you deny them basic rights. it does not take much for a small town to band together and LOCK OUT sales of goods to people who are different from them. and this is exactly where we are headed if this set of laws is allowed to stand.
well, I know 'jesus' as well as anyone does (ie, not at all).
my guess is that his legend would have him stand up against discrimination and hatred.
this is not political. not even close. its about hatred and any other veneer is a false one.
"love others as you would have them love you" would not be in favor of hate-laws.
I don't believe there ever was a jesus, but some of the ideas attributed to hims are quite stellar. too bad no one in any time (modern or ancient) has truly accepted this core belief.
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you sound right, but you are really wrong.
it IS about race, for republicans. down deep, they are the modern minority-haters and have been for decades, now. not forever, (things were reversed previous to that) but now, they are the poster boys of 'if you are not white, straight and christian, we're against you'.
no ideology anyone could have would create this much anger in a group of people - it HAS to be race. america never got right about how to deal with race issues and this pretty much proves it.
I find it cute that others deny this. its the (white) elephant in the room that the other side refuses to admit. and of course they won't admit it, to admit such a thing today is pretty much already on the wrong side of history.
the anti-gay trend in the red states is more proof of 'if you aint a christian you're not one of us and we will shun you' belief. again, pure republican minority hatred.
now, I totally dislike obama these days, but its because of how he turned his back on the liberal ideas and has become a push-over for the power brokers who control him and own him. he never did much good for the liberal cause (partly because he was blocked by the R's, but also because he really didn't TRY all that much. not sure if he was lying to us or just ignorant of how little control he'd have as president).
the R's always hated him, and the D's now hate him for betraying them and their principles. he's not going to be remembered well by history. too bad, there was a lot of potential there, but it was all misused.
perhaps this really is proof: no matter who you put in that office, the office will ruin them.
I do think its time to redo our whole system. if your code base is so old, so tangled, so full of exception code and has more exceptions than rules, its time to scrap it and start over. and yes, I'm arguing for a complete re-do of our laws, our government and it needs to come sooner rather than later if we are to salvage what is left of our once great country.
no, just bootlickers like you, fnord. you're the kind of person who is against him. ie, scum of the earth.
I'm waiting to hear if this is truly as described.
I cannot believe anyone can make a law (in the US) that denies the ability of people to donate to the cause of their choice. especially a defense fund.
then again, if snowden is declared 'an enemy' I guess even assholes like our president can get away with murder. and yes, murder is what he's pretty much shooting for, one way or another, with snowden.
one thing amuses me and I enjoy it quite a lot: the fact that our executive is so pissed off and annoyed, along with all the other agencies - I rather LIKE THAT! I enjoy seeing them angry and put into a corner where they cannot defend themselves. and so far, they have not defended themselves one bit; we all know who the real traitors and cowards are.
snowden, you tweaked those in the highest levels of power in the world. for that, I say THANK YOU. I wish I could do more to help you - we all owe you so much.
obama - you're an asshole, if this story is true. shame on you! pathetic loser of a president who cannot admit that he and his cronies were wrong, wrong, wrong.
"state changes"
I see what you did there.
Anyone holding a security clearance is subject to periodic reinvestigation.
so, clapper was investigated and found to be guilty of lying to congress? when does his sentence in prison start?
look, if you want to be taken seriously here on slash, you have to stop YOUR lying.
serpico was also shunned by his peers and bosses...
you just have to wait a while for history to realize who was really a good guy and who was not.
there's my boy fjord! wondered when he would come along.
he's the slashdot equiv of fark's bevets.
only thing missing is the doctored up tarot card...
listen, Dick-head, the boots that need licking are in DC. shouldn't you be there instead of here?
the great Short Attention Span Company(tm) EOLs phones like there's no tomorrow. my older google phone is stuck at android 2.x and will never get updates. I don't care about features, but I'd like kernel, ip-stack and some onboard apps to have fixes for security.
it won't ever happen. we don't really own our phones. and we are suppose to keep landfilling perfectly fine hardware - to keep the monsters in high profit.
even if I ran no apps at all, the os is buggy and full of weaknesses. I'm sure I could be attacked with an old 2.2 android os, probably in just a few minutes time.
this is why I hate phones and have zero interest in spending more money and time on this crap. the ceo's might have gotton it right: use dumb feature phones and be more secure!
OT, but related to your comment: I have been fighting battles with companies in the bay area who want to hire people but only if they can sleaze by via 'contract to hire' (really, its a misspelling: the correct spelling is 'contract to FIRE'). this saves them 3 or 6months of benefits, all the while treating you like an employee (long hours, occasional unpaid weekends, take your work laptop home (yes, contractors are being told this).
companies know its all about denying benefits to americans. mostly its us older guys (ie, the ones who need health insurance the most). and they try to convince you its about 'try before you buy' but that's just a stupid lie. I've known contractors stuck on that role for way more than 6mos. look employers, if it takes you even 3 months to know if the guy you have working for you is good or not, I'd be surprised. 6mos? that's just a cost savings for YOU. lets push the benefits cost down on the employee for as long as we can.
its because none of us in tech have unions anymore. there's no one to fight for our rights. sure, as a kid, you think you don't need them. come back in 20 or 30 yrs when you find that to be untrue for you. its not what you need NOW, its what all of us eventually need. WE NEED UNIONS. and yes, they can be evil, but companies are already the definition of modern evil. it takes a monster to fight a monster and lets have the 2 monsters fight each other rather than one of them fighting ME.
and so, I spend the last 10 years doing contracts, unwillingly, since that is ALL that is offered to me. 30 yrs of software and hardware, doing lots of things, but I have 'dont give this guy a fulltime job with benfits' written all over my forehead. apparently.
the overall name of the american game: become rich, screw everyone you can, deny you are doing anything ethically wrong. seems to be working for the elite. for the rest of us, life was better 20 or 30 yrs ago before all this 'deny you benefits ... becase we can!' shit started happening.
my $7 pint of IPA will make me drunk enough so that I don't care about screan responce time or filewall rulls.
wait - I think I finally understand this IoT thing.
its really the Internet of Towels.
(to wipe up after pussy).
wouldn't it just be cheaper to, uhmm, get rid of the cat?
(I bet there's an app for that, too)
absolutely correct.
in ALL cases - ALL of them - its ALWAYS ok to 'do the right thing' above all else.
there are local laws and rules and so on. transient stuff that changes over time.
but 'do the right thing' is kind of universal. we all know, to some degree or another, what that means. some call it 'sense of right and wrong'.
snowden broke US laws, but he Did The Right Thing, and for that, he is a hero.
history has many examples of those who dared to break rules and DTRT. its too bad that they are often, only appreciated decades later, after the fact.
no, it will not make a great htpc.
its not open, no one can trust anything google does and there will be a catch, and then it will be eol'd and abandoned.
have people really not been paying attention to all the things google has lost interest in, over time? why would this be any different?
they are not a reliable vendor of anything. they change courses and leave you stranded. and there is always the spying, spying, spying.
I'd never buy any more google based hardware. that would be stupid!
whores makes lots of money.
if you want to whore yourself out and turn the clock back on privacy and individual rights, sure, go right ahead.
I consider google workers to be whores, too. and facebook. people who can convince themselves that they are doing good work, but really, they are turning back the clock on progress and freedom.
if you work for the surveillance state, you deserve your own private hell. I firmly believe that. I hope I am not ever forced to decide between caving in and working for evil companies vs putting bread on the table. I've seen MORE than my share of being out of work, but so far, I have not had to work for truly evil places. those that willingly choose that, those are the traitors among us.
most? not in my experience!
and there are huge strings attached. you have to promise (writing) not to due them for any reason, ever. you have to obey other rules (never say anything bad about them on forums, etc etc).
and if you are a contractor, you get walked out in 0 or 1 days, no severance, no nothing. last time I was let go (as a contractor) the manager didn't even have the common human courtesy to speak to me or give me the reason for the dismissal. total surprise, came out of nowhere (I was meeting my deadlines and my work was well received). yet, I got a call from the job shop saying 'pack up, tomorrow is your last day. no discussion allowed. bye.'
yes, the US is a fucking nightmare for employment. if you have not seen this YET, you will. get to a certain age and you'll find its nothing BUT this kind of bullshit.
we need a new new deal. companies are going back to their bad old ways, from 100 years ago. slowly but surely, they are. not good for workers anymore. you are a cog, nothing more.
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
there is no loyalty anymore, so why play old games that are no longer valid?
you are a cog. you are just a worker.
just leave on the say you give notice. business is business, tell them you need to do what's best for you and that means leaving today.
they won't give you the same respect they 'expect' from you, so don't give it to them (anymore).
sad that its like this, but IT IS. only newbies and fools have loyalty to companies, now.
'say it once.
say it twice.
three time's the charm.'
(the B guy)
a company I was at more than 10 yrs ago ran MS email. some of us ran unix email (I think I was into qmail at the time) and the sysadmin was a friend, so I was left alone and had my linux box do my desktop work. was not forced to use windows. back then, it was atypical, but we used a form of bsd in our products and so the unix guys were not a small minority. still, I was one of the few who used only unix email, for corp stuff.
one day I get an email from some marketing guy, then a few minutes another email from 'the server' saying 'xyz would like to recall email 123' or something like that. too damned funny - the email was sent, it was poped or imaped out and into my qmail system, then into my user agent - and this guy - via the server - is asking me to delete the message.
but - well - I already received and read it! does 'your server' want me to unsee it? is that even possible? ;)
no one else saw the email. they went thru exchange and exchange did dutifully delete it before everyone else could even know it was there. but there is no 'reach over and delete' when I imap that thing out and its saved in my maildir.
just too funny. the MS guys really do think the whole world is MS.
sounds good. a state full of Repo Men!
(can I have my plate-o-shrimp, now?)
no, you do NOT DESERVE any such 'freedom' to hate people based solely on a religious reason.
the idea of civil rights was to step in when businesses were NOT self-policing. time and time again, business owners do the wrong thing (they think they are gods and untouchable) and when society finally gets pissed off enough, then laws are enacted to force bad actors to behave.
except, in this case, they went the wrong way. it was not the will of the people, but the will of a very small minority who demands that everyone play by their 2000 year old set of rules; or at least how they think those rules should be understood and followed.
you know what's right and what's wrong. we don't have to teach you that. you know, in your heart, that discrimination like this is very wrong; but you use some twisted congnative dissonance to convince yourself that its 'a form of freedom to be able to hate anyone you want'. I guess it is, but there's a bright line between hating someone for their belief system and denying them service in a public store or setting. you can hate them all you want - till the cows come home. that's your freedom right there. you are not forced to party with them, befriend them, marry them or go to church with them. that's all allowed in a free society.
but the line stands when you deny them basic rights. it does not take much for a small town to band together and LOCK OUT sales of goods to people who are different from them. and this is exactly where we are headed if this set of laws is allowed to stand.
(after they leave, one clerk says to the other):
"funny! they don't look druish!"
(oblig)
well, I know 'jesus' as well as anyone does (ie, not at all).
my guess is that his legend would have him stand up against discrimination and hatred.
this is not political. not even close. its about hatred and any other veneer is a false one.
"love others as you would have them love you" would not be in favor of hate-laws.
I don't believe there ever was a jesus, but some of the ideas attributed to hims are quite stellar. too bad no one in any time (modern or ancient) has truly accepted this core belief.
see the real definition of 'left'.
#include "I_dont_think_it_means_what_you_think_it_means.h"
no one on the left would support a hate-bill like this. sorry, but you have no clue what left means if you think this.