If I build an extremely rudimentary AI with a temperature sensor, and a programmed response to "move somewhere else" when the temperature is outside of a given range. And a response to "move somewhere else quickly" when the temperature reaches a certain point. And I stick this simple program in a simple robot.
This is intellectual gymnastics. I think you just proved his point.
You're somewhat right, though - pain can be either conscious or subconscious. In humans, and most animals, it's definitely a mix of the two. We're aware of the pain, and we have physical subconscious responses to it.
When I put my hand on a burner, it jerks away. Then because of the awful pain, I put it under the tap or clench an ice pack.
If you can say without a doubt a lobster has no conscious pain handling, then fine, boil them alive - but if you can't, it's better to be humane rather than not.
They couldn't pay their bills because advertising on the 'net is a failing industry. The reason for that is people like you blocking adverts.
I don't click ads. Would you rather have me wasting their bandwidth?
Kiuas already summed it up, below:
The problem is not with the people. People block the ads because they're annoying and hence not very interesting. The problem is the ads themselves. The advertisement tactic used in the net is too much based on the same tactic companies use on the streets: The bigger the better. On the streets this work because the bigger and more colourful the ad is the more chance there is that people will notice it. However, when you make the ads on the net big, colourful and often moving (sometimes even with sound effects) and then fill a webpage with these ads they stop working and instead of arousing interest you're just making people annoyed.
Stardock isn't handing out loans amounting to hundreds of times more money than the assets of the whole company.
We're talking about software development companies, here - not unregulated banks.
I expect Sun, IBM, Microsoft, Blizzard, Stardock, and Valve to be around for a while yet.
I never really knew much about SGI or 3DFX - but maybe that's part of the problem? Any publicity is good publicity, as they say. If every time "server" is mentioned, someone says "Sun" or "Linux", you'll come out ahead in the end, because everyone thinks of you.;)
He'll spend the same amount of time updating the firmware on whatever he buys. Whether he updates it to alternative router firmware, or official firmware, it still (likely) has to be updated from whatever it shipped with.
...are all bringing out computers that leverage Intel's new Nehalem architecture to enable unprecedented amounts of RAM.
I seem to recall some Tyan Phenom boards being available with roughly that much RAM, announced last year. 4 sockets, 8 DIMMs per socket, if I remember right. 32*4GB = 128GB, which is pretty close.
I recognize that it's just buzzwords/marketing and poor research, but they come off like Intel fanboys - like this is the first time 192GB of RAM has been "affordable" - if you can call it that.
Then again, it's computerworld. The last 3 articles of theirs posted to/. were full of logic errors.
Everyone always says "After company X goes bankrupt, it'll be worthless." - but really, what are the odds that Stardock/Valve/Microsoft/Blizzard/etc. will go under?
I think you're all paranoid. These companies have been around for years - they clearly have some smart people leading them.
I remember looking for an obscure Supreme Commander patch(version x.x.xx.xx.xxxx to version x.x.xx.xx.xxxx), and that was one of the few sites that had it. Fileplanet would throw me in a queue for 45 mins, then give me sub-par DL speeds. Filefront always maxed out my 3mbit connection, for every download, and let me download it right away.
They're probably using powerful GPUs to encode the video streams in realtime. It only takes a couple miliseconds to encode a frame with reasonably good quality.
Where you get the huge latency is where you'd expect - sending input and video over the internet.
Offering them as an alternative will help to balance the argument that the company needs to be legal in its software usage, esp if they complain that their people don't know how to use the FOSS, because you can tell them to choose between training time or spending money.
In the case of OpenOffice, it may be neither. OpenOffice is a smaller jump UI-wise from Office 2000 than Office 2007 is.
So training time should be quite minimal for Word/Spreadsheet stuff.
People have this too - although it has to be trained. Most of our extra senses are so underused, that we need to kickstart them somehow, before we become consciously aware of them.
My password is somewhere between 48 and 64 characters/numbers/symbols long. I lost count.
I don't know anything about these fancy xBit encryption doohickeys, but if you can guess my router's password, you deserve a reward. (like a new bot for your botnet)
Last night I played Freecell. I played it for a very long time, hours beyond when I should've. I was like a zombie, playing it until I passed out.
Today I punched a coworker. He was being a dick.
This is conclusive proof that Freecell led to my violence. The hours of failing at Freecell with absolutely no resulting consequence are clearly the reason I thought I could punch my coworker without consequence. My state of mind while playing it(sleepy, foggy) means my mind was not able to understand that consequence-free failures at a card game apply just to card games; it instead applied it to my actions the following morning.
This is further proof that humans are very heavily influenced by their environments and other external factors around them.
I do not believe that I should not be held accountable for punching my co-worker. After all, my environment(including him) conspired against me. I was led to believe that there would not be consequences for my actions, and then to test this hypothesis, he consciously acted like a dick and got himself punched. This was his choice - I just reacted in a logical manner.
If that isn't a conspiracy or entrapment, I don't know what is!
Golf is evil. Haven't you ever seen those documentaries?
The people golfing do their best to hit the guy picking up the balls, with more golf balls. Some golf balls could be travelling faster than a speeding car on a freeway! That's gotta hurt!
No wonder they now have protective golf carts for the job.
But not everyone is that fanatical. Even if one guy votes 50 times, most people won't, which probably puts the average somewhere around 1-4 votes per person.
This is funny, though.:D Congrats - he's now immortalized in history.
I wonder what was running through their heads when they decided to add another chip, and solder it to the board the same way as the chip that was causing RROD's.
We have a lot of green power. For example, BC Hydro (company) generates most of the electricity for BC (province) and several nearby states with hydro-dams. Just look at the link - it says 50% of the power used in Canada comes from Hydro.
The only pollution there is the land you use up to make the dam work... plus construction materials.
Alberta (province) is packed with wind turbines. I've also seen them where I live, on Vancouver Island. (in BC)
There's a new wind farm being built in northern BC. Apparently it'll produce ~144 megawatts.
We have projects like this all over the place. A huge amount of our power comes from green solutions.
Unfortunately, we have distance working against us - we all need cars, and we all have to drive them long distances to get places. Cars are probably our biggest source of pollution.
Even despite our "incredibly dirty oil sands", we're doing better than a lot of other countries.:P We're trying to keep our emissions in check.
The beeping is very annoying though. My motherboards have super loud internal speakers, to make sure you can hear hardware failures and overheating from far away.
I was aware that "/" was root, but not that "/X11" was "root/X11" rather than "/etc/X11" when in the "/etc" dir.
Using the same character for different usage scenarios takes the obviousness out of its usage. On Windows you can do "cd X11" or "cd X11\" and get to the same spot. The backslash just indicates it's a dir, which is redundant for CD, but necessary in some.bat/.cmd scripting.
I'll look up that book.
I've already played with mount and umount.:) I like how they work.
Running gedit from a menu isn't going to raise the privs so I can save xorg.
Pressing Winkey+R (default Alt+F2, I think it was?) is pretty simple to open a run box. If you aren't using keyboard shortcuts for stuff like that, then... o..kay.
You can't see the merit of either having the name of the program listed in the title bar, or having a way to launch it by description?
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If I build an extremely rudimentary AI with a temperature sensor, and a programmed response to "move somewhere else" when the temperature is outside of a given range. And a response to "move somewhere else quickly" when the temperature reaches a certain point. And I stick this simple program in a simple robot.
This is intellectual gymnastics. I think you just proved his point.
You're somewhat right, though - pain can be either conscious or subconscious. In humans, and most animals, it's definitely a mix of the two. We're aware of the pain, and we have physical subconscious responses to it.
When I put my hand on a burner, it jerks away. Then because of the awful pain, I put it under the tap or clench an ice pack.
If you can say without a doubt a lobster has no conscious pain handling, then fine, boil them alive - but if you can't, it's better to be humane rather than not.
But aren't most newspapers packed with BS slants anyway?
Around here (BC, Canada), I can pick up any newspaper and list a story on every page with bullshit slants/info splattered across it.
It's just like slashdot, with summaries exactly the opposite of what the original article stated.
Heh... I'm running Ubuntu on an old computer with a VIA chipset. For this Unichrome Pro IGP, EXA is unstable and I have to use XAA.
Looks like I need a new IGP. :D I'm two generations out of date.
They couldn't pay their bills because advertising on the 'net is a failing industry. The reason for that is people like you blocking adverts.
I don't click ads. Would you rather have me wasting their bandwidth?
Kiuas already summed it up, below:
The problem is not with the people. People block the ads because they're annoying and hence not very interesting. The problem is the ads themselves. The advertisement tactic used in the net is too much based on the same tactic companies use on the streets: The bigger the better. On the streets this work because the bigger and more colourful the ad is the more chance there is that people will notice it. However, when you make the ads on the net big, colourful and often moving (sometimes even with sound effects) and then fill a webpage with these ads they stop working and instead of arousing interest you're just making people annoyed.
Stardock isn't handing out loans amounting to hundreds of times more money than the assets of the whole company.
We're talking about software development companies, here - not unregulated banks.
I expect Sun, IBM, Microsoft, Blizzard, Stardock, and Valve to be around for a while yet.
I never really knew much about SGI or 3DFX - but maybe that's part of the problem? Any publicity is good publicity, as they say. If every time "server" is mentioned, someone says "Sun" or "Linux", you'll come out ahead in the end, because everyone thinks of you. ;)
He'll spend the same amount of time updating the firmware on whatever he buys. Whether he updates it to alternative router firmware, or official firmware, it still (likely) has to be updated from whatever it shipped with.
...are all bringing out computers that leverage Intel's new Nehalem architecture to enable unprecedented amounts of RAM.
I seem to recall some Tyan Phenom boards being available with roughly that much RAM, announced last year. 4 sockets, 8 DIMMs per socket, if I remember right. 32*4GB = 128GB, which is pretty close.
Ahh... here it is: http://www.dvhardware.net/article31242.html
I recognize that it's just buzzwords/marketing and poor research, but they come off like Intel fanboys - like this is the first time 192GB of RAM has been "affordable" - if you can call it that.
Then again, it's computerworld. The last 3 articles of theirs posted to /. were full of logic errors.
But what are the odds?
Everyone always says "After company X goes bankrupt, it'll be worthless." - but really, what are the odds that Stardock/Valve/Microsoft/Blizzard/etc. will go under?
I think you're all paranoid. These companies have been around for years - they clearly have some smart people leading them.
(...Microsoft chairmen excluded. :P )
Yep, true.
I shouldn't have used "all" - but the vast majority have such restrictions.
Still.. how many recent games have "spawn" mode? ;)
What's wrong with filefront?
I remember looking for an obscure Supreme Commander patch(version x.x.xx.xx.xxxx to version x.x.xx.xx.xxxx), and that was one of the few sites that had it. Fileplanet would throw me in a queue for 45 mins, then give me sub-par DL speeds. Filefront always maxed out my 3mbit connection, for every download, and let me download it right away.
I have adblock, so... what ads? :P
I liked FileFront.
They're probably using powerful GPUs to encode the video streams in realtime. It only takes a couple miliseconds to encode a frame with reasonably good quality.
Where you get the huge latency is where you'd expect - sending input and video over the internet.
Technically all retail games have the same restriction.
Just because nobody abides by the EULAs doesn't mean it isn't restricted.
With this new "DRM", steam will be more lenient than retail games - except that, Valve is evil, could go out of business, blah blah.
Seems fine to me.
Offering them as an alternative will help to balance the argument that the company needs to be legal in its software usage, esp if they complain that their people don't know how to use the FOSS, because you can tell them to choose between training time or spending money.
In the case of OpenOffice, it may be neither. OpenOffice is a smaller jump UI-wise from Office 2000 than Office 2007 is.
So training time should be quite minimal for Word/Spreadsheet stuff.
People have this too - although it has to be trained. Most of our extra senses are so underused, that we need to kickstart them somehow, before we become consciously aware of them.
http://hackaday.com/2009/02/05/haptic-compass/
After using his vibrating belt for a while, he knew exactly where he was and what direction he was going, even with it taken off.
Brains are amazing. If you provide them with more info, they figure out how to use it.
My password is somewhere between 48 and 64 characters/numbers/symbols long. I lost count.
I don't know anything about these fancy xBit encryption doohickeys, but if you can guess my router's password, you deserve a reward. (like a new bot for your botnet)
I don't know - I've never asked.
I was out exploring the west coast near Tofino and Ucluelet and saw a strange egg shaped wind turbine on private property.
That got us talking about it, and then we noticed about 3 more small wind turbines in that area.
These aren't megawatt producers, but probably are kilowatt producers. It's nice to see people throwing them up individually.
Huh? Nobody even called me a retard for logic like that? What's slashdot coming to!?
Last night I played Freecell. I played it for a very long time, hours beyond when I should've. I was like a zombie, playing it until I passed out.
Today I punched a coworker. He was being a dick.
This is conclusive proof that Freecell led to my violence. The hours of failing at Freecell with absolutely no resulting consequence are clearly the reason I thought I could punch my coworker without consequence. My state of mind while playing it(sleepy, foggy) means my mind was not able to understand that consequence-free failures at a card game apply just to card games; it instead applied it to my actions the following morning.
This is further proof that humans are very heavily influenced by their environments and other external factors around them.
I do not believe that I should not be held accountable for punching my co-worker. After all, my environment(including him) conspired against me. I was led to believe that there would not be consequences for my actions, and then to test this hypothesis, he consciously acted like a dick and got himself punched. This was his choice - I just reacted in a logical manner.
If that isn't a conspiracy or entrapment, I don't know what is!
IANAL.
Golf is evil. Haven't you ever seen those documentaries?
The people golfing do their best to hit the guy picking up the balls, with more golf balls. Some golf balls could be travelling faster than a speeding car on a freeway! That's gotta hurt!
No wonder they now have protective golf carts for the job.
But not everyone is that fanatical. Even if one guy votes 50 times, most people won't, which probably puts the average somewhere around 1-4 votes per person.
This is funny, though. :D Congrats - he's now immortalized in history.
I wonder what was running through their heads when they decided to add another chip, and solder it to the board the same way as the chip that was causing RROD's.
Fix the RROD's, but add E74. Great.
We have a lot of green power. For example, BC Hydro (company) generates most of the electricity for BC (province) and several nearby states with hydro-dams. Just look at the link - it says 50% of the power used in Canada comes from Hydro.
The only pollution there is the land you use up to make the dam work... plus construction materials.
Alberta (province) is packed with wind turbines. I've also seen them where I live, on Vancouver Island. (in BC)
There's a new wind farm being built in northern BC. Apparently it'll produce ~144 megawatts.
We have projects like this all over the place. A huge amount of our power comes from green solutions.
Unfortunately, we have distance working against us - we all need cars, and we all have to drive them long distances to get places. Cars are probably our biggest source of pollution.
Even despite our "incredibly dirty oil sands", we're doing better than a lot of other countries. :P We're trying to keep our emissions in check.
Will do. :) Seems like this could help a bit.
The beeping is very annoying though. My motherboards have super loud internal speakers, to make sure you can hear hardware failures and overheating from far away.
I may have to unplug them to use this. :P
Hey, a post without flaming in it! :D
I was aware that "/" was root, but not that "/X11" was "root/X11" rather than "/etc/X11" when in the "/etc" dir.
Using the same character for different usage scenarios takes the obviousness out of its usage. On Windows you can do "cd X11" or "cd X11\" and get to the same spot. The backslash just indicates it's a dir, which is redundant for CD, but necessary in some .bat/.cmd scripting.
I'll look up that book.
I've already played with mount and umount. :) I like how they work.
Running gedit from a menu isn't going to raise the privs so I can save xorg.
Pressing Winkey+R (default Alt+F2, I think it was?) is pretty simple to open a run box. If you aren't using keyboard shortcuts for stuff like that, then... o..kay.
You can't see the merit of either having the name of the program listed in the title bar, or having a way to launch it by description?