And all macs are DUAL PROCESSOR, which gives them more (but not double) processing power at the "speed" number which actually has nowhere near the effect on machine speed as the marketing guys at BOTH Inten and Apple would have you think. Oh wait, I forgot, you are bashing a Mac, so therefore you don't know shit about them.
A dual 1GHz Mac is equivalent, if not slightly superior to a 1.5Ghz to 2.0Ghz single Pentium. And that is me being very conservtive to avoid more shitting out of the mouth from people who buy marketing lingo liek it was handed down from god.
I said do a COMPERABLE system. Did I say "my mac is as fast as the top of the line p4?"
NO!! BUT IT'S SO MUCH EAIER TO SPEW CRAP THAN THINK!!!
I'd say my dual 1GHz G4 is about as fast as a 2.1 GHz single processor P4. You may think otherwise... *sigh*
I hope someday there is a cure for "I need to bash what I don't understand" syndrom... then I wouldn't have to post on/., and America wouldn't have to bomb Iraq when a Bush is in office.
As far as my "retard" interface, yesh, the Bash shell is pretty hard to mess up, no messy buttons to press, no contextual menus, so way windows can get lost behing the other ones... tho I miss not having a START button in case I'm too fuckign stupid to know what to do after I turn the damn thing on.
Very interesting topic, and I'm sure some big fish (M$, Sun, etc) will have a LOT to say (donate $$) about this... if it goes the "non-modded is Non-derrivative" way, then M$ et al can pile in GNU stuff at will as the foundation of proprietary OS / Software.
That then begs the quest, is taht bad?? At least then you know *some* of the OS is stable =)
I'd have to say that (IANAL) review of the article / law, it woud seem that you can link w/o violating GNU... as long as you distibute the source to the things you linked to (but not YOUR code taht actually calls it)
that's funny, I bought FOUR in the last 9 months.. a TiBook and G4 dual for home, a G4 for work, and a 17" iMac for my GF for xMas.
I'm going ot go out on a limb and say two things:
1. You have never USED a Mac running OS X (and you probably wouldn't know what to do with a shell, Apache, MySQL, a good GUI, etc anyway)
2. You have never actually built a box (or even better, bought one from Dell, Gateway, etc.) that was FEATURE EXACT and *then* made your "overpriced" out-your-ass comments. Given you cna't compare processor speeds per say (assume 1.5x to 2x speed of G4 == speed of Intel) go ahead. Make sure you include OS, basic productivity SW and so on.
God I hate moronic zealots (both PeeCee *and* Mac) it's fine to dislike somehing based on KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE... but fukcing-a 99% of the people who say "Macs suck, they are overpriced and blah blah blah" have never priced or USED one!!!!
The crap brands tend to be local, so I went low-brow national brand.. guess I could have chosen the Beast or Orange Whips.
My slum beers in Upstate NY were Piels and *shudder* Utica Club... there was another beer, Black Label, that we got once... nobody could finish the first one it was so bad. =)
heh, point take, but a GOOD UI only needs one mouse button (no, I'm not sucking Jobs' wee-wee, honest!!)
One hand hovering over the keyboard to hit one-key sortcuts for 99% of tool selection / macros, etc, and the mouse ONLY to draw / select / paint.
I mostly run PS with ALL toolbars except the color swatches and mixer windows not there... the mouse is very secondary to a trained / practiced user... right-clicking and having to move away fomr what I was jsut drawing / selecting / etc to click (and if I remember my GIMP, then clicking again, and moving further away to select another menu option) is wasteful!
Context menus are good, if done well.... I again stand by the fact that the evil UI robot was heavily involved... =)
Photoshop == UI designed by artists / UI designers for artists / UI desigers using an app who's goal is to create Art / UI elements
GIMP == UI designed by a (very good) programmer who's main goal was offering feature comperability to PS... "they got layers, WE got layers.. oh, I guess I better make a way to access them.. uh, well, I wrote right-click menu code, I'll jsut throw it on there." While "it works", it's (IMNSHO) a far cry from usable
But again, if you like the GIMP, and it does what you want, hells yeah... it's nice to have a choice!!
Besides, after M$ buys Macromedia and takes Flash away from me, I'm sue they will buy Adobe and take Photoshop away... and I'll be begging you for GIMP tips =)
I learned to get across the room by breaking glass on the floor then stripping naked and wrigginlg across it while squeezing lemon juice on my body.
Every time I try to use my "legs" it seems akward.
If you like the GIMP, neat, it's dirt cheap, and it does some stuff that PS does.. but boy howdy, comparing GIP to Photoshop is, well, re-read that first part of my post. I'm a professional designer... I looked into the GIMP when I was going ot leave WInderz for Linux.... I gave it plenty of time and effort, but sorry, the GIMP UI was designed by an evil robot who's only job it was to make a horrible UI. =)
By your statement it's obvious you are in high-school, and therefore not a "Student"
Real Students are watching TV at 11pm while figuring out what bar to go to because you just finished the case of beer you started on a couple hours ago with your buddies.
Then the next morning (and by morning, I mean afternoon) there will be hazy discussions over last night's Fututrama... "I think it was funny... d00d, I'm sooo hungover! I only got $4 left, looks like we goot buy Busch again tonight..."
Developers use Dreamweaver to wrie cross platform code taht integrates with ColdFusion (which can be installed on a variety of platfors, and can connect to a variety of DB servers) and can include Flash components which run on almost all browsers, and can get data form a HUGE variety of platform indepenant sources.
Tomorrow: The Mac versions lag behind the windows versions. The Windows versions get "extended" functionality... but only if CF is running on WinXP, and the DB it connects to is MS SQL Server. You can *still* use other things, but it's a huge pain in the ass.
Next Week: No more Mac versions. Flash plugin is Active-X only, and can get data only from.NET apps and CF runs only on XP, and ONLY connects to M$ SQL server.
I can only hope Macromedia looks beyond quick cash flow and actally gives a shit about the Web. Then again, given the sad state of "profit trumps all other decisions" corporate action the US is going through... *sigh*
PLEASE DON'T SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL MACORMEDIA!!!
Name me a vital piece of software you can't get for the PC.
hrm, lets see... you named GAMES. I use a computer to DO WORK. But to answer your question, how about a stable, secure, non-DRM filled OS that doesn't send data back to Redmond.
Do YOU have that? I didn't think so.
Since "vital" means games to you, let me know when you are done with your paper route and join the rest of the world when yo have to make money.... and when every crash, driver install, etc. costs you money.
Till then, enjoy Counter-Strike, enjoy NWN, enjoy Mechwarrior. I'll enjoy billing my clients larges sums of money do get shit done.
Again, I point out the fact that Iraq has never attacked the US.
Only *one* soverign nation has attacked US soil, and that was Japan. (War of independance aside)
The Al Queda is NOT a country... and it sure as hell isn't based in Iraq.... if you feel the need to bomb someone off the map, it should be Saudi Arabis and Pakistan, but they have "friendly" (meaning friendly to US business interests) regimes, so we overlook the fact that they fund and train the folks in Al Queda.
Iraq is a scapegoat to boost Bush's ratings... if you can't see that, I am sad for you.
last time I checked Iraq has never attaced the US.
Attacking an Arab nation will fuel the fires of terroism even more and will GET us attacked again... but then again, it's easier to drop bombs than to think.
Other than Canada, where can a typical (only english speaking) US citzen move to and work with minimal ammounts of hassle, paperwork, etc.??
I jokingly said if GW won the first time I'd leave. If he wins another one (or gets installed in office like he did this time) I'm actualy going to do it.
Sadly, he'll hold off on his bullshit "war" with Iraq until his strategists say it'll peek his popularity right at election time....
Hold on, let me close Microsoft Office and then pop into my Bash shell and kill my Apache and MySQL processes before I fire up Quake III
Yes, the PC has more games. No doubt. So does playstation2. that's why I have a G4 and a PS2. When I want to work, I use a Mac. When I want to play video games, I use a game console.
Neat that a PC does a half-assed verion of both, but I like using the right tool for the job.
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when it's translated into english, you insesitive clod!
That's funny, we use that term frequently in volleyball tournaments.. 'cept it means "Dead Fucking Last"
Could be how investors in the game come out of the deal... =)
And all macs are DUAL PROCESSOR, which gives them more (but not double) processing power at the "speed" number which actually has nowhere near the effect on machine speed as the marketing guys at BOTH Inten and Apple would have you think. Oh wait, I forgot, you are bashing a Mac, so therefore you don't know shit about them.
A dual 1GHz Mac is equivalent, if not slightly superior to a 1.5Ghz to 2.0Ghz single Pentium. And that is me being very conservtive to avoid more shitting out of the mouth from people who buy marketing lingo liek it was handed down from god.
Would you like me to dumb it down for you more??
thank you for proving my point =)
/., and America wouldn't have to bomb Iraq when a Bush is in office.
I said do a COMPERABLE system. Did I say "my mac is as fast as the top of the line p4?"
NO!! BUT IT'S SO MUCH EAIER TO SPEW CRAP THAN THINK!!!
I'd say my dual 1GHz G4 is about as fast as a 2.1 GHz single processor P4. You may think otherwise... *sigh*
I hope someday there is a cure for "I need to bash what I don't understand" syndrom... then I wouldn't have to post on
As far as my "retard" interface, yesh, the Bash shell is pretty hard to mess up, no messy buttons to press, no contextual menus, so way windows can get lost behing the other ones... tho I miss not having a START button in case I'm too fuckign stupid to know what to do after I turn the damn thing on.
Very interesting topic, and I'm sure some big fish (M$, Sun, etc) will have a LOT to say (donate $$) about this... if it goes the "non-modded is Non-derrivative" way, then M$ et al can pile in GNU stuff at will as the foundation of proprietary OS / Software.
That then begs the quest, is taht bad?? At least then you know *some* of the OS is stable =)
I'd have to say that (IANAL) review of the article / law, it woud seem that you can link w/o violating GNU... as long as you distibute the source to the things you linked to (but not YOUR code taht actually calls it)
that's funny, I bought FOUR in the last 9 months.. a TiBook and G4 dual for home, a G4 for work, and a 17" iMac for my GF for xMas.
I'm going ot go out on a limb and say two things:
1. You have never USED a Mac running OS X (and you probably wouldn't know what to do with a shell, Apache, MySQL, a good GUI, etc anyway)
2. You have never actually built a box (or even better, bought one from Dell, Gateway, etc.) that was FEATURE EXACT and *then* made your "overpriced" out-your-ass comments. Given you cna't compare processor speeds per say (assume 1.5x to 2x speed of G4 == speed of Intel) go ahead. Make sure you include OS, basic productivity SW and so on.
God I hate moronic zealots (both PeeCee *and* Mac) it's fine to dislike somehing based on KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE... but fukcing-a 99% of the people who say "Macs suck, they are overpriced and blah blah blah" have never priced or USED one!!!!
OK, my rant for 2003 is done.
First they point out a Salon piece mentioning "selling out" and now we get an ATi puff piece for a video card taht has been out for months...
If only I had a brain, I could figure out what this meant!!
I was out of college well before Natural Ice =)
lol!
... there was another beer, Black Label, that we got once... nobody could finish the first one it was so bad. =)
The crap brands tend to be local, so I went low-brow national brand.. guess I could have chosen the Beast or Orange Whips.
My slum beers in Upstate NY were Piels and *shudder* Utica Club
heh, point take, but a GOOD UI only needs one mouse button (no, I'm not sucking Jobs' wee-wee, honest!!)
One hand hovering over the keyboard to hit one-key sortcuts for 99% of tool selection / macros, etc, and the mouse ONLY to draw / select / paint.
I mostly run PS with ALL toolbars except the color swatches and mixer windows not there... the mouse is very secondary to a trained / practiced user... right-clicking and having to move away fomr what I was jsut drawing / selecting / etc to click (and if I remember my GIMP, then clicking again, and moving further away to select another menu option) is wasteful!
Context menus are good, if done well.... I again stand by the fact that the evil UI robot was heavily involved... =)
Photoshop == UI designed by artists / UI designers for artists / UI desigers using an app who's goal is to create Art / UI elements
GIMP == UI designed by a (very good) programmer who's main goal was offering feature comperability to PS... "they got layers, WE got layers.. oh, I guess I better make a way to access them.. uh, well, I wrote right-click menu code, I'll jsut throw it on there." While "it works", it's (IMNSHO) a far cry from usable
But again, if you like the GIMP, and it does what you want, hells yeah... it's nice to have a choice!!
Besides, after M$ buys Macromedia and takes Flash away from me, I'm sue they will buy Adobe and take Photoshop away... and I'll be begging you for GIMP tips =)
/me wipes spooge off monitor
Thanks!
I learned to get across the room by breaking glass on the floor then stripping naked and wrigginlg across it while squeezing lemon juice on my body.
Every time I try to use my "legs" it seems akward.
If you like the GIMP, neat, it's dirt cheap, and it does some stuff that PS does.. but boy howdy, comparing GIP to Photoshop is, well, re-read that first part of my post. I'm a professional designer... I looked into the GIMP when I was going ot leave WInderz for Linux.... I gave it plenty of time and effort, but sorry, the GIMP UI was designed by an evil robot who's only job it was to make a horrible UI. =)
I left Windows tho... Mmm, photoshop on OS X.
SOMEONE PORT THE DAMN THING!!!
I'd do it myself, but I'm a loser arty-farty type =)
By your statement it's obvious you are in high-school, and therefore not a "Student"
Real Students are watching TV at 11pm while figuring out what bar to go to because you just finished the case of beer you started on a couple hours ago with your buddies.
Then the next morning (and by morning, I mean afternoon) there will be hazy discussions over last night's Fututrama... "I think it was funny... d00d, I'm sooo hungover! I only got $4 left, looks like we goot buy Busch again tonight..."
You've got a bowling ball that can keep score for you!!
Today:
.NET apps and CF runs only on XP, and ONLY connects to M$ SQL server.
Developers use Dreamweaver to wrie cross platform code taht integrates with ColdFusion (which can be installed on a variety of platfors, and can connect to a variety of DB servers) and can include Flash components which run on almost all browsers, and can get data form a HUGE variety of platform indepenant sources.
Tomorrow:
The Mac versions lag behind the windows versions. The Windows versions get "extended" functionality... but only if CF is running on WinXP, and the DB it connects to is MS SQL Server. You can *still* use other things, but it's a huge pain in the ass.
Next Week:
No more Mac versions. Flash plugin is Active-X only, and can get data only from
I can only hope Macromedia looks beyond quick cash flow and actally gives a shit about the Web. Then again, given the sad state of "profit trumps all other decisions" corporate action the US is going through... *sigh*
PLEASE DON'T SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL MACORMEDIA!!!
hrm, lets see... you named GAMES. I use a computer to DO WORK. But to answer your question, how about a stable, secure, non-DRM filled OS that doesn't send data back to Redmond.
Do YOU have that? I didn't think so.
Since "vital" means games to you, let me know when you are done with your paper route and join the rest of the world when yo have to make money.... and when every crash, driver install, etc. costs you money.
Till then, enjoy Counter-Strike, enjoy NWN, enjoy Mechwarrior. I'll enjoy billing my clients larges sums of money do get shit done.
Again, I point out the fact that Iraq has never attacked the US.
Only *one* soverign nation has attacked US soil, and that was Japan. (War of independance aside)
The Al Queda is NOT a country... and it sure as hell isn't based in Iraq.... if you feel the need to bomb someone off the map, it should be Saudi Arabis and Pakistan, but they have "friendly" (meaning friendly to US business interests) regimes, so we overlook the fact that they fund and train the folks in Al Queda.
Iraq is a scapegoat to boost Bush's ratings... if you can't see that, I am sad for you.
once you chmodded all your files to M$, wouldn't then THEY have to be the ones that chmod them?
Funny thing is, that's pretty much how thier DRM really does work =)
IF M$ wins, Big Brother will end fair use as we know it in the computer world.
If the other guys wins, M$ will buy them and then end fair use as we know it period.
w00t?
screw fuel, imagine driving home from a bar at 2:30am in 3 dimensions...
last time I checked Iraq has never attaced the US.
Attacking an Arab nation will fuel the fires of terroism even more and will GET us attacked again... but then again, it's easier to drop bombs than to think.
Other than Canada, where can a typical (only english speaking) US citzen move to and work with minimal ammounts of hassle, paperwork, etc.??
I jokingly said if GW won the first time I'd leave. If he wins another one (or gets installed in office like he did this time) I'm actualy going to do it.
Sadly, he'll hold off on his bullshit "war" with Iraq until his strategists say it'll peek his popularity right at election time....
yup, you can't do a damn thing on a Mac.
Hold on, let me close Microsoft Office and then pop into my Bash shell and kill my Apache and MySQL processes before I fire up Quake III
Yes, the PC has more games. No doubt. So does playstation2. that's why I have a G4 and a PS2. When I want to work, I use a Mac. When I want to play video games, I use a game console.
Neat that a PC does a half-assed verion of both, but I like using the right tool for the job.