With the possible exceptions of dealing with clients, firing employees, and accusing people of crimes, the cumulative number of exclamation points you should ever use in your business e-mails is exactly 0.
Exclamation points are also plenty appropriate when a project is completed on time and under budget. Since that has never happened in any of the projects I've worked on, I suppose your point still stands.
Whew! Problem solved then? Apparently the Chinese don't have Google!
And I'm sure the GP's response also includes industrial capable solutions with near perfect accuracy, plus a cost analysis to show that the operating cost of these robots will be notably lower than the profits of recycling these materials. Google is indeed the solution to all!...sorry, the snark is strong tonight.
Surely it is trivial for an AI to separate recyclable things from a contaminated waste stream. It can beat the best Go masters on the planet! Surely, this would be much easier problem for it to solve?
Not really, game theory and visual recognition are two different things. The first has a specific solution that takes a ton of processing and machine learning can simplify this processing, the second is hard enough that humans can't even figure it out some times, much less train a machine learning program to a high degree of accuracy. Machine learning should reach this level but we have a lot of work (and $s) before it is there.
A large number of technological methods have bias ( https://cals.arizona.edu/class... ) and the facial recognition algorithms are usually machine learning I believe, they can indeed have quite a bit of bias built in. This bias can be created by the developers not training the system with properly balanced data, which is a technological issue. That bias can be due to actual bias in the world (as you mention) so here the model is right, it is just reflecting real world bias. Understanding the cause is very important.
You may not consider $182,472 a year hitting it big in your country but in a lot of places that would afford you pure luxury.
In places in the US that is true too. Where I am you can live comfortably and still save money with a quarter of that every year, anything more can pretty much go to luxuries.
According to the summary, his (human) manager failed to renew his contract in the new system, during their changeover.
So a machine did not fire him. A human failed to renew his contract, and the machine obediently carried out the steps that it should carry out when that happened.
The narrative about an evil AI here is far more interesting than what actually happened.
This sort of thing has happened more than once for years. We had a project end and the customer was sent a list of people who were still active on other projects and needed their access maintained, instead the contracts person on the customer side terminated the contracts for all of our people. Fortunately we have our own office we work out of most of the time so the effected people could still come into work, and charge the customer during the two weeks it took to get their access back up again. Then another week or two of lost time getting computer access working again as they had to be "new hires" since terminated contract access is terminated permanently.
This sounds more like a failure in the contract to have a clause, I get paid if you screw up my access.
What's Discovery even like; I completely lost interest in the whole franchise after the "re-imagined' of Wrath of Khan.
It could be but mostly it is on the wait and see list these days. I even find myself somewhat nostalgic watching Voyager on Netflix (working on watching all episodes from each series just to do it once in my life), then they have a stupid episode I can hardly sit through, but at least it had the occasional real Star Trek feel.
I haven't had interest in Ford since they did away with adjustable headrests back in the 90s (they only recently came back). Deathtraps if you weren't the proper size for their cars. That coupled with terrible service and a lack-luster line of vehicles in the last 20 years made me look elsewhere. There's a reason Trump sees so many BMW/Mercedes/Audis driving around, GM/Chrysler/Ford don't make any desirable/decent cars especially for the money asked.
I had a 2005 Ford Taurus, it came with adjustable headrest I think. Sold in in 2016, still ran like brand new if you ignore all the rust. My only real issue was it was a used fleet car and that version came without anti-lock brakes (I didn't think that was possible post y2k...). Was a bit tight for a full size car, at least compared to my 2008 Impala. However in what every says about Fords, I wonder how much was I just got lucky.
People who buy Tesla stock now buy it on the expectation that others will continue to find it valuable.
Exactly. They believe the electric car will be a big thing, even if it takes longer time than Musks original schedule.
They are not a failure just because their growth isn't super fast. They still grow, so shorting is stupid.
Yeah, but the stock market is for finding the highest profit company in the next quarter. Potential value ranging from the quarter after to ten years from now (or longer) is not worth anything in the stock market. Any public company knows this and is structured to sacrifice all long term earnings for the next quarter./s
Especially with Ford dropping all of their cars, except the Mustang and the GT(?) and going full truck/crossover/van (any others?) inventory. I know I'm not their demographic but while I previously considered a hybrid fusion, Ford is no longer a brand I have any interest in.
All about trade offs, and I don't think most IoT is worth the trade off. Someone is almost always home at my house. I can get up and switch on/off lights and other stuff in my house rather than doing it from my couch with my smartphone. I'm willing to pay people to come into my house to do things, except for the rare more expensive item like a replacement AC, so a physical key is all I've ever needed to get in and out of my house. I also pretty much never forget to turn off the lights or similar things so remote indications of what is on is pretty useless to me.
Don't get me wrong, there are some useful applications to IoT out there, mostly monitoring devices are what interest me. However most IoT just seems like a very minor convenience item, with the trade off being a security risk that would have to be virtually 0% risk to be a viable trade off with the low value added (IMHO). When you add that these items aren't free, just not worth it for me.
Honestly I typically go by logic and try to calibrate my compass based on what benefits the majority of first people, second animals and third the earth, regardless of how it makes me feel. I've found other people's opinion (elders, educators but also anyone in general) helps to form ideas but I also often have to account for the possibility that their opinions are based a lot on self interest, which is not necessarily a bad thing. For a long time, humanity survived in a condition of scarcity so the selfish communities were the ones to survive the hard times. Today though, this selfishness isn't really needed for survival and leads to failing to see the long term needs of humanity as a whole. Because of this I don't think many people are truly what could be considered evil but are more concerned with their survival, or the survival of their "tribe", against threats that may not exist anymore.
So for me, trying to understand morality is not about understanding why people do the right thing but what is the motivation for doing things some people consider to be wrong, and if these behaviors are truly wrong in how the actions impact other people or if there is a reason why it may be the right thing for that person and situation. I think trying to get someone to do the right thing is kind of futile, when to them it is the right thing. Sometimes we can help them see other perspectives on their actions but that may not always work.
Possibly the same reason why anyone does the right thing, our own sense of morality? Weather the source of that morality is attributed to our religion, our sense of society, family or simply a personal decision to do what we feel is the right thing, all humans have a moral compass that may or may nor work correctly relative to the societal norms.
Except I won't accept an entire countries crypto wealth as payment. But I will take silver and gold.
If your crypt currency is so valuable, then prove it. Go to Walmart and buy something. Any size, any value, but do it with a crypto currency, ANY crypto currency.
If your unable, then it just proves the point that it really has no value.
I said electronic money, not crypto currency. Go to Walmart and try to buy something with gold and silver and see what happens, but they will take digital ones and zeros in the form of credit cards all day long. Does that prove gold and silver has no value?
If I recall correctly, at one time, the US government set the price of gold at $35 per ounce. They also had laws on the book which prevented ordinary citizens from buying and selling gold, except in jewelry, and other items. Don't recall all the ins and outs of this.
Yep this, though I don't know much beyond the generic overview either.
Doesn't the same go for all money since we went off the gold standard?
Isn't that true when we were on the gold standard? The value of gold had to be artificially be held down in order to make gold the standard of trade. Ultimately all any form of money represents is an intermediate form to convert the value of your work into goods you desire, though gold at least has some value in electronics but I think that value is swamped by the perceived value for jewelry.
Yep and hauling around firewood in your pocket does not go very well. Gold and silver as high density value items, that represent the value of what they can be traded for more than intrinsic value, works great. Paper money even better in that it is even more value dense, electronic money is closing on infinitely value dense (I can carry entire country's value on my phone) is amazing, except for how easy it can be manipulated.
Your store currently has higher prices to pay for the free plastic bags it gives you. They aren't really free, you're just indirectly paying for them.
Probably but I don't know any stores in my area that don't give away those free plastic bags. The few high end organic stores that may not give away bags (I don't know honestly) typically import food from other states, rather than using local farms.
It isn't a universal ban on all plastic bags, only disposable grocery/shopping bags that stores hand out for free.
It's perfectly workable.
What do you think everyone uses for kitty litter disposal bags? I refuse to pay for my plastic bags!
Those plastic bags they give away at the fruit/vegetable market/produce departments? I save those for cat litter. One time I ran out so I ordered a roll of them online, so I am never without. $15, don't be a cheapskate.
I'm mostly being sarcastic, but that is hard to determine without smiles these days given what some people (no, never me!) post.
Certified compostable bags that can go in my green bin, to divert all of that kitty litter from landfills.
Compostable waste disposal, that would be nice. Around here the price for recycling is rather high and no compostable separation, and most of my trash is non-recyclable anyway.
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With the possible exceptions of dealing with clients, firing employees, and accusing people of crimes, the cumulative number of exclamation points you should ever use in your business e-mails is exactly 0.
Exclamation points are also plenty appropriate when a project is completed on time and under budget. Since that has never happened in any of the projects I've worked on, I suppose your point still stands.
Whew! Problem solved then? Apparently the Chinese don't have Google!
And I'm sure the GP's response also includes industrial capable solutions with near perfect accuracy, plus a cost analysis to show that the operating cost of these robots will be notably lower than the profits of recycling these materials. Google is indeed the solution to all! ...sorry, the snark is strong tonight.
Surely it is trivial for an AI to separate recyclable things from a contaminated waste stream. It can beat the best Go masters on the planet! Surely, this would be much easier problem for it to solve?
Not really, game theory and visual recognition are two different things. The first has a specific solution that takes a ton of processing and machine learning can simplify this processing, the second is hard enough that humans can't even figure it out some times, much less train a machine learning program to a high degree of accuracy. Machine learning should reach this level but we have a lot of work (and $s) before it is there.
Linus has created literally trillions in economic activity. Singlehanded. But techies worship Musk. Very odd.
I would say enabled, rather than created. But the work Linus and those who developed Linux did is seriously underrated.
A large number of technological methods have bias ( https://cals.arizona.edu/class... ) and the facial recognition algorithms are usually machine learning I believe, they can indeed have quite a bit of bias built in. This bias can be created by the developers not training the system with properly balanced data, which is a technological issue. That bias can be due to actual bias in the world (as you mention) so here the model is right, it is just reflecting real world bias. Understanding the cause is very important.
Machine learning bias: https://towardsdatascience.com...
You may not consider $182,472 a year hitting it big in your country but in a lot of places that would afford you pure luxury.
In places in the US that is true too. Where I am you can live comfortably and still save money with a quarter of that every year, anything more can pretty much go to luxuries.
According to the summary, his (human) manager failed to renew his contract in the new system, during their changeover.
So a machine did not fire him. A human failed to renew his contract, and the machine obediently carried out the steps that it should carry out when that happened.
The narrative about an evil AI here is far more interesting than what actually happened.
This sort of thing has happened more than once for years. We had a project end and the customer was sent a list of people who were still active on other projects and needed their access maintained, instead the contracts person on the customer side terminated the contracts for all of our people. Fortunately we have our own office we work out of most of the time so the effected people could still come into work, and charge the customer during the two weeks it took to get their access back up again. Then another week or two of lost time getting computer access working again as they had to be "new hires" since terminated contract access is terminated permanently.
This sounds more like a failure in the contract to have a clause, I get paid if you screw up my access.
What's Discovery even like; I completely lost interest in the whole franchise after the "re-imagined' of Wrath of Khan.
It could be but mostly it is on the wait and see list these days. I even find myself somewhat nostalgic watching Voyager on Netflix (working on watching all episodes from each series just to do it once in my life), then they have a stupid episode I can hardly sit through, but at least it had the occasional real Star Trek feel.
Yeah, and best of luck to them, I'm just not a customer to their brand choices. Doesn't make the choice bad, just not for me.
I haven't had interest in Ford since they did away with adjustable headrests back in the 90s (they only recently came back). Deathtraps if you weren't the proper size for their cars. That coupled with terrible service and a lack-luster line of vehicles in the last 20 years made me look elsewhere. There's a reason Trump sees so many BMW/Mercedes/Audis driving around, GM/Chrysler/Ford don't make any desirable/decent cars especially for the money asked.
I had a 2005 Ford Taurus, it came with adjustable headrest I think. Sold in in 2016, still ran like brand new if you ignore all the rust. My only real issue was it was a used fleet car and that version came without anti-lock brakes (I didn't think that was possible post y2k...). Was a bit tight for a full size car, at least compared to my 2008 Impala. However in what every says about Fords, I wonder how much was I just got lucky.
We do have an incinerator plant where I live, so I don't think straws are not much of a problem for us.
People who buy Tesla stock now buy it on the expectation that others will continue to find it valuable.
Exactly. They believe the electric car will be a big thing, even if it takes longer time than Musks original schedule.
They are not a failure just because their growth isn't super fast. They still grow, so shorting is stupid.
Yeah, but the stock market is for finding the highest profit company in the next quarter. Potential value ranging from the quarter after to ten years from now (or longer) is not worth anything in the stock market. Any public company knows this and is structured to sacrifice all long term earnings for the next quarter. /s
Especially with Ford dropping all of their cars, except the Mustang and the GT(?) and going full truck/crossover/van (any others?) inventory. I know I'm not their demographic but while I previously considered a hybrid fusion, Ford is no longer a brand I have any interest in.
All about trade offs, and I don't think most IoT is worth the trade off. Someone is almost always home at my house. I can get up and switch on/off lights and other stuff in my house rather than doing it from my couch with my smartphone. I'm willing to pay people to come into my house to do things, except for the rare more expensive item like a replacement AC, so a physical key is all I've ever needed to get in and out of my house. I also pretty much never forget to turn off the lights or similar things so remote indications of what is on is pretty useless to me.
Don't get me wrong, there are some useful applications to IoT out there, mostly monitoring devices are what interest me. However most IoT just seems like a very minor convenience item, with the trade off being a security risk that would have to be virtually 0% risk to be a viable trade off with the low value added (IMHO). When you add that these items aren't free, just not worth it for me.
Honestly I typically go by logic and try to calibrate my compass based on what benefits the majority of first people, second animals and third the earth, regardless of how it makes me feel. I've found other people's opinion (elders, educators but also anyone in general) helps to form ideas but I also often have to account for the possibility that their opinions are based a lot on self interest, which is not necessarily a bad thing. For a long time, humanity survived in a condition of scarcity so the selfish communities were the ones to survive the hard times. Today though, this selfishness isn't really needed for survival and leads to failing to see the long term needs of humanity as a whole. Because of this I don't think many people are truly what could be considered evil but are more concerned with their survival, or the survival of their "tribe", against threats that may not exist anymore.
So for me, trying to understand morality is not about understanding why people do the right thing but what is the motivation for doing things some people consider to be wrong, and if these behaviors are truly wrong in how the actions impact other people or if there is a reason why it may be the right thing for that person and situation. I think trying to get someone to do the right thing is kind of futile, when to them it is the right thing. Sometimes we can help them see other perspectives on their actions but that may not always work.
Obviously we just need to build a bunch of 6" stilts to raise all buildings along the coast. Done.
Now I'm off to disprove this globe earth thing with my lawn chair and 45 helium balloons.
Don't forget the BB gun.
He didn't, but dropped it after the first shot..
Just use a shotgun, will get you back to earth in one cartridge even if you drop it.
Possibly the same reason why anyone does the right thing, our own sense of morality? Weather the source of that morality is attributed to our religion, our sense of society, family or simply a personal decision to do what we feel is the right thing, all humans have a moral compass that may or may nor work correctly relative to the societal norms.
Except I won't accept an entire countries crypto wealth as payment. But I will take silver and gold.
If your crypt currency is so valuable, then prove it. Go to Walmart and buy something. Any size, any value, but do it with a crypto currency, ANY crypto currency.
If your unable, then it just proves the point that it really has no value.
I said electronic money, not crypto currency. Go to Walmart and try to buy something with gold and silver and see what happens, but they will take digital ones and zeros in the form of credit cards all day long. Does that prove gold and silver has no value?
If I recall correctly, at one time, the US government set the price of gold at $35 per ounce. They also had laws on the book which prevented ordinary citizens from buying and selling gold, except in jewelry, and other items. Don't recall all the ins and outs of this.
Yep this, though I don't know much beyond the generic overview either.
Doesn't the same go for all money since we went off the gold standard?
Isn't that true when we were on the gold standard? The value of gold had to be artificially be held down in order to make gold the standard of trade. Ultimately all any form of money represents is an intermediate form to convert the value of your work into goods you desire, though gold at least has some value in electronics but I think that value is swamped by the perceived value for jewelry.
Yep and hauling around firewood in your pocket does not go very well. Gold and silver as high density value items, that represent the value of what they can be traded for more than intrinsic value, works great. Paper money even better in that it is even more value dense, electronic money is closing on infinitely value dense (I can carry entire country's value on my phone) is amazing, except for how easy it can be manipulated.
Your store currently has higher prices to pay for the free plastic bags it gives you. They aren't really free, you're just indirectly paying for them.
Probably but I don't know any stores in my area that don't give away those free plastic bags. The few high end organic stores that may not give away bags (I don't know honestly) typically import food from other states, rather than using local farms.
It isn't a universal ban on all plastic bags, only disposable grocery/shopping bags that stores hand out for free.
It's perfectly workable.
What do you think everyone uses for kitty litter disposal bags? I refuse to pay for my plastic bags!
Those plastic bags they give away at the fruit/vegetable market/produce departments? I save those for cat litter. One time I ran out so I ordered a roll of them online, so I am never without. $15, don't be a cheapskate.
I'm mostly being sarcastic, but that is hard to determine without smiles these days given what some people (no, never me!) post.
Certified compostable bags that can go in my green bin, to divert all of that kitty litter from landfills.
Compostable waste disposal, that would be nice. Around here the price for recycling is rather high and no compostable separation, and most of my trash is non-recyclable anyway.
Stop using practice-babies and have an actual baby instead.
And use cloth, not disposable.
Hey, I'm fighting climate change here!
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