I've had my work laptop go into update mode when I shut down and not realize, or sometimes just hang while trying to shut it down and I've tossed it in my laptop bag. When I get home I'm wondering why my laptop bag feels like an oven...
Talk to me about this. At the 3 letter agency where I work, we had to completely disable remote reboots because of user complaints.
This means that I now have to wait for government shutdowns to do my updates to our user workstations at the last government shutdown wasn't long enough for me to proceed so our workstations are still unpatched for more than a year but we do not use encryption. View my video about this on my highly ranked YouTube channel to learn more about this very important issue . -- Dwayne Johnson's Rampage As A Kaiju ("Weird Beast") Monster Movie
Queue the update and require mandatory daily/weekly machine resets that trigger the update to run. Then if they don't reset for a week or two after a critical update, automatic e-mails to bug them and their manager every day. Eventually a non compliance mark against their work record. Not saying this will work with everyone, but should cover a good number of people.
Not saving is always self-destructive behavior. There's no excuse for that. Bluescreens are rarer than they used to be, but they still happen. Power outages, bumped cables, other people in the house, who knows. Just save. Even if it's a temp thing.
But there's plenty of other valid reasons for being in the middle of something and not wanting it interrupted. Web pages you're reading, stuff that's saved but open as a to-do reminder, or just the delay of the reboot/login/relaunch everything process, which isn't always ideal.
The system should ask. Always. If it's urgent, it should get more demanding, but it should still always ask.
When working on config files that are write locked but I need to make updates at different points while the program runs, and might have to wait overnight to finish the updates and then save the config after the write lock is released. Yeah I can save the file to another location but I've had reasons why that didn't work well, possibly just being stubborn again:) but I can't remember the specific reasons off hand. I know I've had other things during development where I want to make updates, but not save the file until something else is done.
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to. If my OS just up and decided now was a good time to reboot, I would ditch that OS in a heartbeat.
This is not a Windows bashing or Linux advocacy post, this is just my opinion on how ANY OS should work.
I don't know, maybe you can turn that option off in Windows. I haven't used Windows since 7, and I know I could back then. Has MS removed that from Win 10?
-- Brian
Mostly for me because I'm not thrilled with the price to value of most Macs (at least from what I've seen shopping around) and Linux has too many compatibility issues (though is close enough to usable to really annoy me). For example my college uses Google drive. I've gotten that working in Ubuntu but only in streaming mode (IIRC) which had LOUSY update performance to the point of basically being unusable. So for my use, Windows is the least painful option, but not by much.
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
Yep, what the majority of voters want doesn't matter...
Yeah, I know the electoral vote is there for a reason and I'm not sure it should be repealed, something just "feels" weird about it. I'm sure its just me.
It would be nice to see some leadership, from the US maybe, in resolving this absurd situation. It could start by addressing the current issue (economic threats on airlines that describe Taiwan as a country), and ideally... by formally recognising Taiwan. Trump even alluded to that, but... it was just a bit of anti-China rhetoric it seems.
The US has voted out or fired most of its leadership... maybe in a few years things will be different.
OK so maybe I'm just feeling a little bitter but that is the way things seem these days.
I've had very good luck with running Ubuntu on my Lenovo laptops in the past. Had a bit of issue with a wifi driver I got past and a few years back the Nvidia drivers weren't great for Ubuntu but that seems better. Lately though I've been running Ubuntu in a virtual machine as I have too many programs I need Windows for (ex my college uses google drive, which can work in Ubuntu but I only got it to work extremely poorly).
Lenovo's history with spyware and back doors is a concern, but I suspect people are watching Lenovo and similar companies a lot closer than they are watching for simple internet downloaded spyware these days (http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/29396/lenovo-settles-superfish-spyware-lawsuit-for-35m). And other companies like HP and Sony have been found to install Spyware too, so I think Lenovo is just the one being talked about, possibly not even the worst.
My primary reason for Lenovo has been the physical layout of the laptops. I have been able to easily take apart most any Thinkpad and upgrade the hardware. Tore apart my Lenovo the first day as I couldn't find the second hard drive it was supposed to come with... it was there, I just didn't notice it wasn't enabled in drive management. I even swapped out the HD for an SSD in my Thinkpad flex which is less easy to tear apart being a convertible laptop but still better than most manufacturers.
Neither of which are significantly better than the budget laptop I bought years ago.
2 HDD slots, i7-3630QM, 8GB RAM, 17" screen, GTX650M, with more ports.
Obviously 8th gen is better than 3rd gen, 32>8, and an incrementally better graphics card but overall, given that in today's dollars I paid $250 less... and in Canadian dollars not USD. Things are really going backwards.
Part of why I went with a Xeon processor on a refurb Thinkpad P laptop. Haven't actually done any stress tests but the thing feels like a beast of a processor without paying an extreme amount.
Some encrypted USB drives have minor problems with being ejected. I think they have some sort of session information that gets closed out when ejected possibly. Never had this cause major issues with the drive, just leads to windows wanting to disk check it every time I block the drive in after failing to eject it.
Problably wont happen but I keep thinking it would be interesting if the response to one of these fines would just the be company being fined geofencing all of their devices/services and seeing what happens.
Also, enough posts about trump making asinine comments, it stopped being funny in 2016. I am outside US, I am sick of comment section filled with right vs left.
Hows the job market where you live? Those of us not outside the US may have to consider alternatives. And not solely because of Trump these days.
Too many of you say "oh, well, privacy is dead and nobody cares, so why bother even trying?". Well, now it may cost people more money, or get them booted out of their medical coverage entirely, or who knows, get them fired from their job because they'll (potentially) raise the group rates too much? People will suddenly start caring about their privacy and who has access to all the data about their lives. Hit people in the pocketbook and they'll suddenly pay attention to all sorts of things that they said they didn't care about.
Yep, and nice that all the paying attention has done great things to fix the cable monopolies... sorry, slightly bitter here.
I do like how lightweight the Notepad app is relative to Notepad++. I'd prefer they keep Nodepad very simple, though the line endings update is a good idea.
You may have noticed you basically need to be rich to get a degree in America. Not so elsewhere in the world. I'm Australian, imported to Seattle on the strength of 6 yeas uni that cost me 30k.
I'm from the US, been working for 14 years from a 4 year degree that cost me $20k, move onto a master's degree that my company paid for. Costs are higher than they were, but the key to me is going to a good priced state college, rather than a 6 figure a year college that doesn't teach anything more.
A gun trigger isn't hard to operate either, and yet we demand a considerable amount of training (physical as well as legal) in order for someone to carry and use one while on duty.
Having the tool is only half the problem in our over-litigious society. Knowing when you can legally use it is another matter entirely. An operator using the emergency kill switch to shut down an entire gas station because a single pump was not communicating properly? Sadly, they probably would have been fired by the greedy gas station owner for losing out on revenue.
And yet they probably keep their job after losing ~$1,800 in stolen gas, rather than what, $180 in profits from the rest of the pumps? I think one of the big problems is shortsightedness. Not so much in specifically not wanting to shut down the station, and profits, at risk of a much greater loss, more of shortsightedness of the just in time approach to everything and the profit margins cut down to nothing from cut throat competition. A gas station is almost forced to stay open when shutting down for a single day could break them. Not that I have any solutions for that situation...
Is this a correlation that people who own iPhones have money to burn, or more of a correlation that iPhones are solidly in the over priced category, like many other luxury items?
That's literally 4x the range of my current car, which has a smaller gas tank than my previous car but the same range due to greater fuel efficiency.
100L seems monstrously huge for a gas tank to me, and I have a hard time even imagining 4L/100km. I know Volvos are notoriously unsexy cars, but that kind of fuel efficiency might change my mind.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the only Volvo I can find with that gas mileage starts at $63k. Considering I spend about $1,500 a year on gasoline, getting a car that costs that much more than a fair gas milage ICE car (or a better priced hybrid) doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
My Volvo (a car, not a truck) has a 100L tank; it also does 4L/100km so you can easily drive from Stockholm to Munich without refueling, even through huge queues. What kind of sissy cars are sold in the US that your fuel tanks are that small? Sedans rather than station wagons, that's why you can't fit anything and need to buy trucks:D
With base price around $38k and the 2018 V60 having a tank that is 17.8 gallons, I'm not really seeing the benefit to this car. The Chevy Impala has a base price around $10k less with a slightly larger gas tank and about the same MPG. For the few things that don't fit in the car with the seats folded down, I'll rent the Home Depot truck for $19.
Shut down the full station just to fix one bad pump? Maybe the clerk did not know how to full reboot
When I worked at a gas station, I knew where the breaker panel was and we had separate breakers for each pump.
So, the easy solution would have been to just power off the hacked pump.
This, exactly! I don't care what system gets hacked on the internet, turn the power off with a physical switch and there is absolutely nothing the internet can do.
Seriously, I'm not big on the whole let the computer handle everything on important things, particularly something that is potentially safety critical. Manual shut off valves aren't hard.
In a number of Larry Niven sci-fi novels, there are people addicted to brain stimulation, known as "wireheads".
Well, gee, the bus I take often must run through a Larry Niven novel . . . all the "wirehead" passengers seem to be addicted to their smarty-pants-phones.
There is a difference between wanting something to do when you are forced to sit around with nothing but watch buildings go by, and electronic devices interfering with work or normal life. The previous isn't really an addiction but plenty of people do stray into the latter.
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I've had my work laptop go into update mode when I shut down and not realize, or sometimes just hang while trying to shut it down and I've tossed it in my laptop bag. When I get home I'm wondering why my laptop bag feels like an oven...
Talk to me about this. At the 3 letter agency where I work, we had to completely disable remote reboots because of user complaints.
This means that I now have to wait for government shutdowns to do my updates to our user workstations at the last government shutdown wasn't long enough for me to proceed so our workstations are still unpatched for more than a year but we do not use encryption. View my video about this on my highly ranked YouTube channel to learn more about this very important issue
. --
Dwayne Johnson's Rampage As A Kaiju ("Weird Beast") Monster Movie
Queue the update and require mandatory daily/weekly machine resets that trigger the update to run. Then if they don't reset for a week or two after a critical update, automatic e-mails to bug them and their manager every day. Eventually a non compliance mark against their work record. Not saying this will work with everyone, but should cover a good number of people.
Not saving is always self-destructive behavior. There's no excuse for that. Bluescreens are rarer than they used to be, but they still happen. Power outages, bumped cables, other people in the house, who knows. Just save. Even if it's a temp thing.
But there's plenty of other valid reasons for being in the middle of something and not wanting it interrupted. Web pages you're reading, stuff that's saved but open as a to-do reminder, or just the delay of the reboot/login/relaunch everything process, which isn't always ideal.
The system should ask. Always. If it's urgent, it should get more demanding, but it should still always ask.
When working on config files that are write locked but I need to make updates at different points while the program runs, and might have to wait overnight to finish the updates and then save the config after the write lock is released. Yeah I can save the file to another location but I've had reasons why that didn't work well, possibly just being stubborn again :) but I can't remember the specific reasons off hand. I know I've had other things during development where I want to make updates, but not save the file until something else is done.
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to. If my OS just up and decided now was a good time to reboot, I would ditch that OS in a heartbeat.
This is not a Windows bashing or Linux advocacy post, this is just my opinion on how ANY OS should work.
I don't know, maybe you can turn that option off in Windows. I haven't used Windows since 7, and I know I could back then. Has MS removed that from Win 10?
-- Brian
Mostly for me because I'm not thrilled with the price to value of most Macs (at least from what I've seen shopping around) and Linux has too many compatibility issues (though is close enough to usable to really annoy me). For example my college uses Google drive. I've gotten that working in Ubuntu but only in streaming mode (IIRC) which had LOUSY update performance to the point of basically being unusable. So for my use, Windows is the least painful option, but not by much.
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
Yep, what the majority of voters want doesn't matter...
Yeah, I know the electoral vote is there for a reason and I'm not sure it should be repealed, something just "feels" weird about it. I'm sure its just me.
It would be nice to see some leadership, from the US maybe, in resolving this absurd situation. It could start by addressing the current issue (economic threats on airlines that describe Taiwan as a country), and ideally... by formally recognising Taiwan. Trump even alluded to that, but ... it was just a bit of anti-China rhetoric it seems.
The US has voted out or fired most of its leadership... maybe in a few years things will be different.
OK so maybe I'm just feeling a little bitter but that is the way things seem these days.
I believe you can get Lenovo laptops pre-installed with Linux: https://support.lenovo.com/us/...
I've had very good luck with running Ubuntu on my Lenovo laptops in the past. Had a bit of issue with a wifi driver I got past and a few years back the Nvidia drivers weren't great for Ubuntu but that seems better. Lately though I've been running Ubuntu in a virtual machine as I have too many programs I need Windows for (ex my college uses google drive, which can work in Ubuntu but I only got it to work extremely poorly).
Lenovo's history with spyware and back doors is a concern, but I suspect people are watching Lenovo and similar companies a lot closer than they are watching for simple internet downloaded spyware these days (http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/29396/lenovo-settles-superfish-spyware-lawsuit-for-35m). And other companies like HP and Sony have been found to install Spyware too, so I think Lenovo is just the one being talked about, possibly not even the worst.
My primary reason for Lenovo has been the physical layout of the laptops. I have been able to easily take apart most any Thinkpad and upgrade the hardware. Tore apart my Lenovo the first day as I couldn't find the second hard drive it was supposed to come with... it was there, I just didn't notice it wasn't enabled in drive management. I even swapped out the HD for an SSD in my Thinkpad flex which is less easy to tear apart being a convertible laptop but still better than most manufacturers.
Neither of which are significantly better than the budget laptop I bought years ago.
2 HDD slots, i7-3630QM, 8GB RAM, 17" screen, GTX650M, with more ports.
Obviously 8th gen is better than 3rd gen, 32>8, and an incrementally better graphics card but overall, given that in today's dollars I paid $250 less... and in Canadian dollars not USD. Things are really going backwards.
Part of why I went with a Xeon processor on a refurb Thinkpad P laptop. Haven't actually done any stress tests but the thing feels like a beast of a processor without paying an extreme amount.
This is why I purchased a ThinkPad P for my latest laptop. These things are not small, they are not light, they do what I need.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/l...|se|google|365764632477|Lenovo_Thinkpad_P_Series|IIP_NX_Lenovo_ThinkPad_P_Series_SMB&CAWELAID=120030930000068286&CATRK=SPFID-1&CAAGID=42871565940&CATCI=kwd-365764632477&CAPCID=284151630458&CADevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9su3s5C43AIVjMDACh1KNw1UEAAYASAAEgIQ3fD_BwE
Some encrypted USB drives have minor problems with being ejected. I think they have some sort of session information that gets closed out when ejected possibly. Never had this cause major issues with the drive, just leads to windows wanting to disk check it every time I block the drive in after failing to eject it.
Problably wont happen but I keep thinking it would be interesting if the response to one of these fines would just the be company being fined geofencing all of their devices/services and seeing what happens.
Also, enough posts about trump making asinine comments, it stopped being funny in 2016. I am outside US, I am sick of comment section filled with right vs left.
Hows the job market where you live? Those of us not outside the US may have to consider alternatives. And not solely because of Trump these days.
I bet you have never held an original thought in your life. Waiting for someone to tell you into what to think?
Thank you, Mr. Trump, we already know what you think.
Obligatory: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
One of the campy sci fi movie quotes I find truly applicable to nearly everything in life... for better or worse.
Too many of you say "oh, well, privacy is dead and nobody cares, so why bother even trying?". Well, now it may cost people more money, or get them booted out of their medical coverage entirely, or who knows, get them fired from their job because they'll (potentially) raise the group rates too much? People will suddenly start caring about their privacy and who has access to all the data about their lives. Hit people in the pocketbook and they'll suddenly pay attention to all sorts of things that they said they didn't care about.
Yep, and nice that all the paying attention has done great things to fix the cable monopolies... sorry, slightly bitter here.
I do like how lightweight the Notepad app is relative to Notepad++. I'd prefer they keep Nodepad very simple, though the line endings update is a good idea.
You may have noticed you basically need to be rich to get a degree in America. Not so elsewhere in the world. I'm Australian, imported to Seattle on the strength of 6 yeas uni that cost me 30k.
I'm from the US, been working for 14 years from a 4 year degree that cost me $20k, move onto a master's degree that my company paid for. Costs are higher than they were, but the key to me is going to a good priced state college, rather than a 6 figure a year college that doesn't teach anything more.
Manual shut off valves aren't hard.
A gun trigger isn't hard to operate either, and yet we demand a considerable amount of training (physical as well as legal) in order for someone to carry and use one while on duty.
Having the tool is only half the problem in our over-litigious society. Knowing when you can legally use it is another matter entirely. An operator using the emergency kill switch to shut down an entire gas station because a single pump was not communicating properly? Sadly, they probably would have been fired by the greedy gas station owner for losing out on revenue.
And yet they probably keep their job after losing ~$1,800 in stolen gas, rather than what, $180 in profits from the rest of the pumps? I think one of the big problems is shortsightedness. Not so much in specifically not wanting to shut down the station, and profits, at risk of a much greater loss, more of shortsightedness of the just in time approach to everything and the profit margins cut down to nothing from cut throat competition. A gas station is almost forced to stay open when shutting down for a single day could break them. Not that I have any solutions for that situation...
Is this a correlation that people who own iPhones have money to burn, or more of a correlation that iPhones are solidly in the over priced category, like many other luxury items?
That's literally 4x the range of my current car, which has a smaller gas tank than my previous car but the same range due to greater fuel efficiency.
100L seems monstrously huge for a gas tank to me, and I have a hard time even imagining 4L/100km. I know Volvos are notoriously unsexy cars, but that kind of fuel efficiency might change my mind.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the only Volvo I can find with that gas mileage starts at $63k. Considering I spend about $1,500 a year on gasoline, getting a car that costs that much more than a fair gas milage ICE car (or a better priced hybrid) doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
My Volvo (a car, not a truck) has a 100L tank; it also does 4L/100km so you can easily drive from Stockholm to Munich without refueling, even through huge queues. What kind of sissy cars are sold in the US that your fuel tanks are that small? Sedans rather than station wagons, that's why you can't fit anything and need to buy trucks :D
With base price around $38k and the 2018 V60 having a tank that is 17.8 gallons, I'm not really seeing the benefit to this car. The Chevy Impala has a base price around $10k less with a slightly larger gas tank and about the same MPG. For the few things that don't fit in the car with the seats folded down, I'll rent the Home Depot truck for $19.
Shut down the full station just to fix one bad pump? Maybe the clerk did not know how to full reboot
When I worked at a gas station, I knew where the breaker panel was and we had separate breakers for each pump.
So, the easy solution would have been to just power off the hacked pump.
This, exactly! I don't care what system gets hacked on the internet, turn the power off with a physical switch and there is absolutely nothing the internet can do.
Seriously, I'm not big on the whole let the computer handle everything on important things, particularly something that is potentially safety critical. Manual shut off valves aren't hard.
In a number of Larry Niven sci-fi novels, there are people addicted to brain stimulation, known as "wireheads".
Well, gee, the bus I take often must run through a Larry Niven novel . . . all the "wirehead" passengers seem to be addicted to their smarty-pants-phones.
There is a difference between wanting something to do when you are forced to sit around with nothing but watch buildings go by, and electronic devices interfering with work or normal life. The previous isn't really an addiction but plenty of people do stray into the latter.