If the MPAA is dragging Google to court, in an attempt to yank google.com off the web, then I think google.com has every right to respond in kind.
And here's a message for MPAA, RIAA from a lawyer ~200 years ago:
"Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. It would be curious then, if an idea, the fugitive fermentation of an individual brain, could, of Natural Right, be claimed in exclusive and stable property. If Nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.
"Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
"That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by Nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, by Natural Right, be a subject of property."
>>>RIAA and MPAA have managed to get a 'man inside' the DoJ and to harness the power of federal government to protect their interests under the guise of movies and songs being a national security issue
Or as Thom. Jefferson wisely foresaw ~220 years ago:
"Copyrights of this sort can be justified in very peculiar cases only, if at all; the danger being very great that the good resulting from the operation of the monopoly, will be overbalanced by the evil effect of the precedent. And it being possible that the monopoly itself, in its original operation, may produce more evil than good." - He must have used a crystal ball to see RIAA and MPAA colluding with the government to protect their assopoly,.
It's not illegal to quote PUBLIC GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS - So ruled the Supreme Court of these United States
US District Court, Central District of California Fishman Case # 91-6426 HLH (Tx) Continued
Exhibit B
Dismas House, Room 324
141 N. W. 1st Avenue
Dania, Florida 33004
ON CONTROL AND LYING
____________________
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them. When you find an individual is lying to you, you know that the individual is trying to control you. One way or another this individual is trying to control you. That is the mechanism of control. This individual is lying to you because he is trying to control you - because if they give you enough misinformation they will pull you down the tone scale so that they can control you. Conversely, if you see an impulse on the part of a human being to control you, you know very well that that human being is lying to you. Not "is going to", but "is" lying to you.
[last sentence is underlined in original]
Check these facts, you will find they are always true. That person who is trying to control you is lying to you. He's got to tell you lies in order to continue control, because the second you start telling anybody close to the truth, you start releasing him and he gets tougher and tougher to control. So, you can't control somebody without telling them a bunch of lies. You will find that very often Command has this as its greatest weakness. It will try to control instead of leading. The next thing you know, it is lying to the [illegible]. Lie, lie, lie, and it gets worse and worse, and all of a sudden the thing blows up. Well, religion has done this. [Following sentence is underlined] Organised religion tries to control, so therefore must be lying. [end underline] After a while it figures out (even itself) that it is lying, and then it starts down tone scale further and further, and all of a sudden people get down along this spring-like bottom (heresy) and say, "Are we going into apathy and die, or are we going to revolt?" and they revolt, because you can only lie to people so long. Unfortunately there is always a new cycle of lying.
I respond the way I always respond - Obey the Supreme Law of the land (i.e. the constitution). It states the US may only enter a war when the People's House declares the war. Otherwise it is illegal, unconstitutional, and the president should be impeached. (i.e. Bush and JFK would have been taken down for starting their illegal wars.)
It's similar to how TV killed the novel, and youtube killed blockbuster movies. Soon the same will happen with blockbuster games.
Oh wait. That didn't happen. Novels and movies are still made, and so too will games. People don't want just arcade games - they also want deeper games. That's why Space invaders/asteroids clones passed-away to be replaced by Zelda and RPGs and simulations in the late 80s.
Hmmm. It's like I traveled back in time to middle school. My..... what highly-enlightened arguments you have my dear. "You are an asshole and an idiot" is such a profound level of logical ingenuity, that I must hereby defer to you as the "winner" of this debate. Bravo my young middle school friend.
BTW my IQ is much, much higher than the 'idiot' level of 20. Oh and thanks for modding me down as (-1 Troll) to boot. That's just swell. Censorship is so much fun - it reminds me of the old days when the communist governments used jamming to drown-out Radio America, so the eastern europeans could not hear rock-n-roll.
Simple. Buy your "subsidized" Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft console at $50 below actual cost, but make sure not to buy any of their games at full price. Only buy them if they are less than $20 (which is actually a loss for the company).
>>>most maniacal, greedy, authoritarian-minded can get into power.
THIS is why the US is supposed to have separation of powers (federalism) between the Member States and the Union government, so no one maniac can become too powerful, but over time many of us have forgotten that basic principal.
BTW Judge Napolitano calls this "Libido Dominandi" which is a phrase he borrowed from the Romans - lust to dominate - http://freedomwatchonfox.com/
Benjamin Franklin called it avarice and ambition - desire for wealth and power.
>>>You are not the world. You do not represent the interests of the world population. Stick to your jobs, and let the rest of us do ours. >>> The only way you Europeans will be able to make the U.S. listen to this plea, is for the EU to declare war. Or at least the *intent* to declare war, if the US does not back off and let Europe be europe without interference.
.....just thinking about it. I prefer the current interface where I just lay my arm on the table, and barely move at all except to adjust the mouse & click.
Simple. Buy your "subsidized" Sony, nintendo, or microsoft console at $50 below actual cost, but make sure not tot buy any of their games at full price. Only buy them if they are less than $20 (which is actually a loss for the company). .
>>>the other three major U.S. carriers don't give a discount for bringing your own phone.
And why would they? The service cost is the service cost, so why would it be any less just because you use your own phone?
(1) My provider VirginMobile may have given me my phone for free (cost of $40 minus $40 sale price), nevertheless it is still MY phone and will be my phone even after I quit the company. (Just as I kept my Cingular phone after I quit them.)
(2) Contracts are not as binding as you may believe. If the carrier changes the term of the contract, such as raising the price or imposing a 5GB datacap, you have ~60 days to reject the new contract and be released from further payments.
(3) The phone argument does not apply to the PS3, which is neither leased nor subsidized by Sony. It is Your property just as surely as your house or car or TV is your property. There's no reason why we can't jailbreak consoles.
>>>There's a huge difference between downloading the newest Ke$ha song and plagiarizing a source online for your paper
Ke$ha has a new song?
- "Yeah it sounds just like the last one, which sounded like Katy Perry's California Girls, which sounded like Beyonce's first single."
Oh - she's cybercheating then. I'll just grab it off youtube rather than pay for it. Did ya hear her next album will be "country" just like her mum? (Probably ghost-written by Taylor Swifty.)
I used to velocitycheat Until my drivers license was repealed Now I am more discrete And only speed when everyone else does. (Hands poem to english major; "here, make this rhyme and I'll do your Calc 1." Thanks)
RANKING (we engineers/programmers can't be bothered to write our own english words - we only care about logic damnit!) 1 Engineering and technology (72%) 2 Computer sciences and mathematical sciences (71%) 3 Social studies (64%) 4 Business and administrative studies (63%) 5 Law (62%) 6 Creative arts and design (61%) 7 Architecture, Building and Planning (60%) 8 Medicine (58%) 9 Natural sciences (57%) 10 Humanities (46%)
Well of course. My argument would be directed to my representatives (to repeal the unconstitutional law) and my neighbors (to refuse to comply with tyrannical laws).
Also I don't think it's a complete waste to talk to cops. Several thousand of them, called Promise Keepers, have pledged to disobey unjust, unconstitutional acts/orders which are Not laws. Look it up on youtube.
When cops demanded to search the trunk of my car, I refused to comply. I told them straight up, "If you do not have a search warrant, then no, you cannot search." And of course if they tried, any evidence would have been thrown out.
Broadband is defined by frequencies, not bits. So even 512k DSL is still broadband, because it is wider than a phoneline (100 MHz >>> 0.004 MHz) not because it is some arbitrary bitrate.
As for speeds, standard DSL can do 7 Mbit/s if you install a "repeater" every mile. 3 Mbit/s if you install the repeater every 5 miles, and would meet the FCC's current definition of "high speed" internet.
>>>So 99% of all that corn, wheat, pork, beef, chicken just magically springs into existence in those megacorp factories?
Pretty much. The ground is owned by the megacorps, the seeds are owned by the megacorps, and the employees are megacorp employees. 99% of the food produced is not by "farmers" but by the agricultural equivalent of Microsoft or GM or Exxon. Except they call themselves ADM, Monsanto, and so on.
>>>Yes, you own the console, and Sony has been kind enough to grant you a license to use a certain bit of their software on it.
I have a license agreement too. It says Sony has to service my willy at least once a month. If they don't agree to these terms, they may refund my $700 and come to collect the PS3.
End.
Or eat a bullet. I'd like to see the CEO commit suicide. It would make me sad, but then I'd remind myself "he was going to die anyway" so it really doesn't matter in the long term.
Personally I prefer the Tyrant Effect: "Off with his head!" Remove the head of Sony, and his replacement will be scared shitless that the same can happen to him. He will be much more compliant to the wishes of his customers.
And no I'm not being extreme. Someone who makes it his mission to destroy the lives of the citizens deserves nothing less then his OWN destruction. Like happened with Mussolini. And Nicolae CeauÅYescu: "Demonstrators stormed Ceausescu's palace and he and his wife tried to flee Bucharest but they were captured by military forces who had turned against them." - BBC
But an Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. Together they have all the same games as the PS3, minus a few exclusives that are crap and you would not want anyway.
>>>one farmer can feed hundreds or even thousands.
Actually 99% of american food doesn't come from farmers. It is mass-produced in megacorp factories just like all our other products. So when you say you want to subsidize the rural community, you're really subsidizing the employees of that factory, or the local walmart, or mcDonalds. Not farmers.
Slashdot Mirror
With a free rubber bumper that prevents the finger from touching the metal antenna.
Aren't Internet cables considered land lines?
Don't nearly all places have phonelines? 50k may not be as fast as 500k satellite, but it is a lot cheaper (almost free).
If I knew someone without internet I'd just hand them a $50 used laptop with Netzero installed, and let them explore.
If the MPAA is dragging Google to court, in an attempt to yank google.com off the web, then I think google.com has every right to respond in kind.
And here's a message for MPAA, RIAA from a lawyer ~200 years ago:
"Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. It would be curious then, if an idea, the fugitive fermentation of an individual brain, could, of Natural Right, be claimed in exclusive and stable property. If Nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.
"Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
"That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by Nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, by Natural Right, be a subject of property."
>>>RIAA and MPAA have managed to get a 'man inside' the DoJ and to harness the power of federal government to protect their interests under the guise of movies and songs being a national security issue
Or as Thom. Jefferson wisely foresaw ~220 years ago:
"Copyrights of this sort can be justified in very peculiar cases only, if at all; the danger being very great that the good resulting from the operation of the monopoly, will be overbalanced by the evil effect of the precedent. And it being possible that the monopoly itself, in its original operation, may produce more evil than good." - He must have used a crystal ball to see RIAA and MPAA colluding with the government to protect their assopoly,.
It's not illegal to quote PUBLIC GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS - So ruled the Supreme Court of these United States
US District Court, Central District of California
Fishman Case # 91-6426 HLH (Tx) Continued
Exhibit B
Dismas House, Room 324
141 N. W. 1st Avenue
Dania, Florida 33004
ON CONTROL AND LYING
____________________
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can
write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you
can control anybody is to lie to them. When you find an individual
is lying to you, you know that the individual is trying to control
you. One way or another this individual is trying to control
you. That is the mechanism of control. This individual is lying to
you because he is trying to control you - because if they give you
enough misinformation they will pull you down the tone scale so that
they can control you. Conversely, if you see an impulse on the part
of a human being to control you, you know very well that that human
being is lying to you. Not "is going to", but "is" lying to you.
[last sentence is underlined in original]
Check these facts, you will find they are always true. That person
who is trying to control you is lying to you. He's got to tell you
lies in order to continue control, because the second you start
telling anybody close to the truth, you start releasing him and
he gets tougher and tougher to control. So, you can't control
somebody without telling them a bunch of lies. You will find that
very often Command has this as its greatest weakness. It will try to
control instead of leading. The next thing you know, it is lying to
the [illegible]. Lie, lie, lie, and it gets worse and worse, and all
of a sudden the thing blows up. Well, religion has done this.
[Following sentence is underlined] Organised religion
tries to control, so therefore must be lying. [end underline]
After a while it figures out (even itself) that it is lying, and then
it starts down tone scale further and further, and all of a sudden
people get down along this spring-like bottom (heresy) and say,
"Are we going into apathy and die, or are we going to revolt?"
and they revolt, because you can only lie to people so long.
Unfortunately there is always a new cycle of lying.
L. Ron Hubbard
Technique 88
I respond the way I always respond - Obey the Supreme Law of the land (i.e. the constitution). It states the US may only enter a war when the People's House declares the war. Otherwise it is illegal, unconstitutional, and the president should be impeached. (i.e. Bush and JFK would have been taken down for starting their illegal wars.)
Yep.
It's similar to how TV killed the novel, and youtube killed blockbuster movies. Soon the same will happen with blockbuster games.
Oh wait. That didn't happen. Novels and movies are still made, and so too will games. People don't want just arcade games - they also want deeper games. That's why Space invaders/asteroids clones passed-away to be replaced by Zelda and RPGs and simulations in the late 80s.
>>>You are an asshole and an idiot.
Hmmm. It's like I traveled back in time to middle school. My..... what highly-enlightened arguments you have my dear. "You are an asshole and an idiot" is such a profound level of logical ingenuity, that I must hereby defer to you as the "winner" of this debate. Bravo my young middle school friend.
BTW my IQ is much, much higher than the 'idiot' level of 20. Oh and thanks for modding me down as (-1 Troll) to boot. That's just swell. Censorship is so much fun - it reminds me of the old days when the communist governments used jamming to drown-out Radio America, so the eastern europeans could not hear rock-n-roll.
>>>How does one stop supporting this model?
Simple. Buy your "subsidized" Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft console at $50 below actual cost, but make sure not to buy any of their games at full price. Only buy them if they are less than $20 (which is actually a loss for the company).
>>>most maniacal, greedy, authoritarian-minded can get into power.
THIS is why the US is supposed to have separation of powers (federalism) between the Member States and the Union government, so no one maniac can become too powerful, but over time many of us have forgotten that basic principal.
BTW Judge Napolitano calls this "Libido Dominandi" which is a phrase he borrowed from the Romans - lust to dominate - http://freedomwatchonfox.com/
Benjamin Franklin called it avarice and ambition - desire for wealth and power.
>>>You are not the world. You do not represent the interests of the world population. Stick to your jobs, and let the rest of us do ours.
>>>
The only way you Europeans will be able to make the U.S. listen to this plea, is for the EU to declare war. Or at least the *intent* to declare war, if the US does not back off and let Europe be europe without interference.
.....just thinking about it. I prefer the current interface where I just lay my arm on the table, and barely move at all except to adjust the mouse & click.
>>>How does one stop supporting this model?
Simple. Buy your "subsidized" Sony, nintendo, or microsoft console at $50 below actual cost, but make sure not tot buy any of their games at full price. Only buy them if they are less than $20 (which is actually a loss for the company).
.
>>>the other three major U.S. carriers don't give a discount for bringing your own phone.
And why would they? The service cost is the service cost, so why would it be any less just because you use your own phone?
(0) For those who haven't heard, Verizon is punishing high-bandwidth users. The top 5% shall be limited to dialup speeds for two months. See here - http://slashdot.org/submission/1462912/Verizon-Imposes-Limit-on-top-5#comments
(1) My provider VirginMobile may have given me my phone for free (cost of $40 minus $40 sale price), nevertheless it is still MY phone and will be my phone even after I quit the company. (Just as I kept my Cingular phone after I quit them.)
(2) Contracts are not as binding as you may believe. If the carrier changes the term of the contract, such as raising the price or imposing a 5GB datacap, you have ~60 days to reject the new contract and be released from further payments.
(3) The phone argument does not apply to the PS3, which is neither leased nor subsidized by Sony. It is Your property just as surely as your house or car or TV is your property. There's no reason why we can't jailbreak consoles.
>>>There's a huge difference between downloading the newest Ke$ha song and plagiarizing a source online for your paper
Ke$ha has a new song?
- "Yeah it sounds just like the last one, which sounded like Katy Perry's California Girls, which sounded like Beyonce's first single."
Oh - she's cybercheating then. I'll just grab it off youtube rather than pay for it. Did ya hear her next album will be "country" just like her mum? (Probably ghost-written by Taylor Swifty.)
I used to velocitycheat
Until my drivers license was repealed
Now I am more discrete
And only speed when everyone else does.
(Hands poem to english major; "here, make this rhyme and I'll do your Calc 1." Thanks)
RANKING (we engineers/programmers can't be bothered to write our own english words - we only care about logic damnit!)
1 Engineering and technology (72%)
2 Computer sciences and mathematical sciences (71%)
3 Social studies (64%)
4 Business and administrative studies (63%)
5 Law (62%)
6 Creative arts and design (61%)
7 Architecture, Building and Planning (60%)
8 Medicine (58%)
9 Natural sciences (57%)
10 Humanities (46%)
Well of course. My argument would be directed to my representatives (to repeal the unconstitutional law) and my neighbors (to refuse to comply with tyrannical laws).
Also I don't think it's a complete waste to talk to cops. Several thousand of them, called Promise Keepers, have pledged to disobey unjust, unconstitutional acts/orders which are Not laws. Look it up on youtube.
When cops demanded to search the trunk of my car, I refused to comply. I told them straight up, "If you do not have a search warrant, then no, you cannot search." And of course if they tried, any evidence would have been thrown out.
Broadband is defined by frequencies, not bits. So even 512k DSL is still broadband, because it is wider than a phoneline (100 MHz >>> 0.004 MHz) not because it is some arbitrary bitrate.
As for speeds, standard DSL can do 7 Mbit/s if you install a "repeater" every mile. 3 Mbit/s if you install the repeater every 5 miles, and would meet the FCC's current definition of "high speed" internet.
>>>So 99% of all that corn, wheat, pork, beef, chicken just magically springs into existence in those megacorp factories?
Pretty much.
The ground is owned by the megacorps, the seeds are owned by the megacorps, and the employees are megacorp employees. 99% of the food produced is not by "farmers" but by the agricultural equivalent of Microsoft or GM or Exxon. Except they call themselves ADM, Monsanto, and so on.
>>>Yes, you own the console, and Sony has been kind enough to grant you a license to use a certain bit of their software on it.
I have a license agreement too.
It says Sony has to service my willy at least once a month. If they don't agree to these terms, they may refund my $700 and come to collect the PS3.
End.
Or eat a bullet. I'd like to see the CEO commit suicide. It would make me sad, but then I'd remind myself "he was going to die anyway" so it really doesn't matter in the long term.
Sure! Just provide the link to the Ebay or Amazon auction, and I'll start bidding.
'k thx :-)
Steisand effect?
Personally I prefer the Tyrant Effect: "Off with his head!" Remove the head of Sony, and his replacement will be scared shitless that the same can happen to him. He will be much more compliant to the wishes of his customers.
And no I'm not being extreme. Someone who makes it his mission to destroy the lives of the citizens deserves nothing less then his OWN destruction. Like happened with Mussolini. And Nicolae CeauÅYescu: "Demonstrators stormed Ceausescu's palace and he and his wife tried to flee Bucharest but they were captured by military forces who had turned against them." - BBC
>>>Guess I'll just have to buy used.
But an Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. Together they have all the same games as the PS3, minus a few exclusives that are crap and you would not want anyway.
>>>one farmer can feed hundreds or even thousands.
Actually 99% of american food doesn't come from farmers. It is mass-produced in megacorp factories just like all our other products. So when you say you want to subsidize the rural community, you're really subsidizing the employees of that factory, or the local walmart, or mcDonalds. Not farmers.