From the wording in the article it sounds like they actually want string theory to fail. ..
A test in which a theory fails is the most useful sort of test.
. ..despite the fact that we have few alternatives so far.
I cannot accept a theory simply because I don't know what to replace it with. Make the tests, generate failures; and then new theories which take the failures into account. That's how the alternatives come into being in the first place. That's why the "failures" are the most useful.
"Successes" only make us complacent with the state of our knowledge, which might well be wrong anyway. "Failures" let us know where we lack knowledge. Science is not done where we know, but where "here there be dragons." It's about exploring the dark corners of the map, not sitting in our offices diddling with ourselves.
We leave that sort of thing to the engineers.
And think about this:
Who says we need an alternative? The quest for a Unified Field Theory is an asthetic desire on the part of physicists. The universe is well known for taking our asthetic desires and shoving them up our collective arses.
String theory always seemed to be the most complicated mathematical way you could "force" a unified field theory into existence by adding as many dimensions and undefinable, physically meaningless constants as possible.
And the essential problem in trying to falsify it is that it's so bad it's not even wrong.
Well, there's David Geffen, but he's kinda unique; and moved from mailboy to sales to founder.
The American dream is a lie
Well yeah, the current version of working hard to qualify for a mortgage on a cardboard and foam "house" full of rubbish and hanging on until you can qualify for a reverse mortgage and then all of your dreams of money, power and glory will come true in your "golden years" is a lie.
And a very useful one to a handful of people for whom you spend your life working.
However, remember that the original American Dream, the one that brought the immigrants here in droves, was simply to own your land, outright, on which you were secure legally, literally your home being your castle and your lands your estate, and from which you could wrest your own living.
This was in contrast to the conditions from which the immigrants came; that of being a serf or tenant farmer with no property and no rights. Simply owning a piece of real property was, to them, a leap from the bottom of the social order to the top, no matter how poor they were.
There was some truth to this dream.
On the other hand their were always speculators and lawyers hanging around to fuck you out of it, so there has always been a measure of the lie to it.
I'm inclined to argue the point that since the bill of rights states specifically *when* habeas corpus *can* be suspended, and since those times are pretty much martial law, that it can't be suspended at will.
Ah, but we have declared the war to end all peace.
Where in the Constitution does it explicitly state that the government can't do anything the Constitution doesn't spell out?
It doesn't, and don't get the idea that I'm a Libertarian. "The Test" says I'm a leftist. The Constitution spells out what the government must do; and what it must not do. There's a perfectly legitimate field of "might well do" between those.
What good is a tool that cannot be wielded?
Nor am I a Jeffersonian. What good are "rights" if any local "authority" can wish them away? While I believe the Confederacy had the right to democratically secede (democracy is innately a contract of the willing and cannot be imposed by force. Are you listening George?), the nation was not truely formed until the 14th Amendment.
Had its provisions been included in the original document the 13th Amendment would have been axiomatic, which is one of the strongest reasons it was not.
Our forefathers built well, but they did build a compromise. Not were they always able to live up to what they had built
They left that up to us I'm afraid. You know, "The People."
That government of The People, by The People and for The People shall not perish from this Earth.
We do not seem to be up to the task of late. They were afraid of that.
The sad thing is I don't think Hillary or Obama will change the rules.
Contrary to popular opinion Julius Caesar was never Emperor of Rome. He was merely the elected dictator for life. He was assasinated in an attempt to prevent him becoming Emperor and preserve the democratic republic.
But the tide had changed and it was taken for granted that the next ruler of Rome would do so as Emperor. It was merely left to determine what flavor of totalitarian government would be installed.
Well no. Not sent. That was a poor choice of words. "Flee" before the gates slam shut is more like it. At the turn and middle of the last century many of my relatives got their timing wrong.
It not only can happen here, it is happening here. Complete with masses chanting it isn't happening; just like before. Tee Tum! Tee Tum! Tee Tum!
My papers are in order (by current standards, but for all I know I'm No Fly already), but London ain't exactly what it used to be and Paris has proven unreliable. Even places to go are dwindling and ironically it might turn out to be either Granada or Prague.
At least until the Moors and Turks invade.
Forgive me, I know I'm being cynical, but I'm being this cynical because I honestly feel there is legitimate reason to be this cynical.
How can you suspend something that doesn't exist then?
This was more or less Hamilton's argument against a Bill of Rights. He predicted arguments such as this, based on interpretation of the specific "grant" of right.
But as he pointed out, under the Constitution rights are not granted by the Constitution. Rights, in a government of, by and for the people are held by them in the first place, not doled out by a government that is merely their social tool.
The Constitution is not a grant of rights to the people, but The People imposing limits on the powers of government to infringe and usurp their innate rights. If the government is not allowed the power to infringe rights, no code is necessary to enforce them, and no code exists to be warped into its Newspeak antithesis.
The government only has the power attributed to it by The People. Power is to the people. The Constitution is a limit on the government's power, not your rights. Have we got that?
But The People have come to think of government as the source of power and the doler of rights. Essentially Monarchial. That's why even the term "Liberal" now means a grant from the government, rather than the freedom of the people, and why even "Liberal" in the modern socialist sense is a legitimately bad word in terms of American political philosophy. It implys you are a ward/serf of the state. Someone to importune for a handout, when in point of fact the power, money and services are yours, by ownership and by right.
That these people are being allowed to pervert the system in the name of "Conservatism" to install an Orwellian fascist state is a crime against The People. Literally. The People ought to send them to jail. They belong there.
I fear, however, that instead I, and those like me, shall be sent to exile at best; and the wall at worst.
Been nice knowing you; have a happy; and remember, you do not watch the TV Grandpa, the TV watches you. When you least expect it, you're elected, it's your lucky day. Smile! You're on candid camera. We come in peace. Shoot to kill.
If they can make a reasonable electric battery for a car that provide power for trips up to 60 km or so without needing a recharge, transportation could change dramatically.
Yeah, then all we'd need is this shit called "energy."
Well, rocket science is simple at its heart and several centuries old.
But what you are looking for is more than 100 years old nonetheless. One might wonder where it went.
If I can't buy it then it does me no good.
One might also wonder if there were ways of acquiring one's needs without buying them, or at least reducing that which needs to be bought to the commodity level. It seems I can no longer buy a classic, double breasted trenchcoat because "nobody" is wearing them anymore. I do, however, have a sewing machine. Hello, my name is "Nobody."
Yes, a car is a bit more complicated, both physically and legally, but the principal still stands.
And since you're in the realm of dreaming, you might also want to consider if a car is really what you want to buy. Perhaps if we're shifting paradigms and all there is a better one.
Bach's manuscripts were discoverd as butcher's paper.
The music of slaves and the early pre-blues artists in the US South were thought to be crap bythe white plantation owners, and not worthy of preserving.
The old music of Ireland (the stuff we have now as traditional is quite modern as music goes) was deliberately destroyed by Lizzie the Great and Cromwell, to the extent of killing everyone who knew it.
If anyone at the time could have put on the internet. . .
. ..what is not backed up will gain - price- because of its rarity.
Imagine how much you could make if you found a lost Shakespeare sonnet today - discarded by Shakespeare because he thought it was utter crap.
Now imagine that it was utter crap. Do not confuse the collectable value with the innate value. The Internet does not store collectability. It stores information. The sonnet, not the manuscript.
Dannon and Yoplait who together have the majority of the US market and whose products carry the label.
Yes; Dannon and Yoplait are notable for having live and active cultures and are suitable to use as a starter. I've always used Dannon myself, because it is reliable, whereas most commercial stuff is not.
Actually, when making yoghurt, the milk is first pasteurized, and then new lactobacteria are added. It's not pasteurized again and so yoghurt will contain living lactobacteria.
Yeeeeeeeah? That's the way I make it.
There is yoghurt that is pasteurized again, but this is only too prolong its shelf life.
Yeeeeeeeeah? That would be most of the commercial stuff you'll find on . . . shelves. That's why the article is here, innit?
Jesus Christ, are we really that disconnected from our food these days?
Dude, bacteria is what yogurt is. It's milk, spoiled under controled conditions. Conditions that promote the growth of . ..bacteria.
For the past few decades commercial yogurt has been pastuerized, i.e, put under controlled conditions that kill bacteria. Don't do that and your yogurt remains live. That's all there is to it.
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From the wording in the article it sounds like they actually want string theory to fail. . .
.despite the fact that we have few alternatives so far.
A test in which a theory fails is the most useful sort of test.
. .
I cannot accept a theory simply because I don't know what to replace it with. Make the tests, generate failures; and then new theories which take the failures into account. That's how the alternatives come into being in the first place. That's why the "failures" are the most useful.
"Successes" only make us complacent with the state of our knowledge, which might well be wrong anyway. "Failures" let us know where we lack knowledge. Science is not done where we know, but where "here there be dragons." It's about exploring the dark corners of the map, not sitting in our offices diddling with ourselves.
We leave that sort of thing to the engineers.
And think about this:
Who says we need an alternative? The quest for a Unified Field Theory is an asthetic desire on the part of physicists. The universe is well known for taking our asthetic desires and shoving them up our collective arses.
Perhaps there can be only two.
KFG
String theory always seemed to be the most complicated mathematical way you could "force" a unified field theory into existence by adding as many dimensions and undefinable, physically meaningless constants as possible.
And the essential problem in trying to falsify it is that it's so bad it's not even wrong.
KFG
Actually, 80% of CEOs never work as CEOs again...
Well, they'll just have to learn to get by on their severance I guess.
KFG
Same reason why the mail boy will never be CEO...
Well, there's David Geffen, but he's kinda unique; and moved from mailboy to sales to founder.
The American dream is a lie
Well yeah, the current version of working hard to qualify for a mortgage on a cardboard and foam "house" full of rubbish and hanging on until you can qualify for a reverse mortgage and then all of your dreams of money, power and glory will come true in your "golden years" is a lie.
And a very useful one to a handful of people for whom you spend your life working.
However, remember that the original American Dream, the one that brought the immigrants here in droves, was simply to own your land, outright, on which you were secure legally, literally your home being your castle and your lands your estate, and from which you could wrest your own living.
This was in contrast to the conditions from which the immigrants came; that of being a serf or tenant farmer with no property and no rights. Simply owning a piece of real property was, to them, a leap from the bottom of the social order to the top, no matter how poor they were.
There was some truth to this dream.
On the other hand their were always speculators and lawyers hanging around to fuck you out of it, so there has always been a measure of the lie to it.
KFG
. . .the CEO is #1 on the blame list when something goes wrong.
And gets punished with an $80 million severance package and a lateral move to another CEO position.
KFG
Never been to New Zealand but it looks amazing.
Plus polygamy is legal on South Island.
KFG
I'm inclined to argue the point that since the bill of rights states specifically *when* habeas corpus *can* be suspended, and since those times are pretty much martial law, that it can't be suspended at will.
Ah, but we have declared the war to end all peace.
But I'm not a lawyer.
Yeah, you seem reasonably likeable.
KFG
What the hell else is there to do.
Pay taxes and die.
KFG
Where in the Constitution does it explicitly state that the government can't do anything the Constitution doesn't spell out?
It doesn't, and don't get the idea that I'm a Libertarian. "The Test" says I'm a leftist. The Constitution spells out what the government must do; and what it must not do. There's a perfectly legitimate field of "might well do" between those.
What good is a tool that cannot be wielded?
Nor am I a Jeffersonian. What good are "rights" if any local "authority" can wish them away? While I believe the Confederacy had the right to democratically secede (democracy is innately a contract of the willing and cannot be imposed by force. Are you listening George?), the nation was not truely formed until the 14th Amendment.
Had its provisions been included in the original document the 13th Amendment would have been axiomatic, which is one of the strongest reasons it was not.
Our forefathers built well, but they did build a compromise. Not were they always able to live up to what they had built
They left that up to us I'm afraid. You know, "The People."
That government of The People, by The People and for The People shall not perish from this Earth.
We do not seem to be up to the task of late. They were afraid of that.
KFG
The sad thing is I don't think Hillary or Obama will change the rules.
Contrary to popular opinion Julius Caesar was never Emperor of Rome. He was merely the elected dictator for life. He was assasinated in an attempt to prevent him becoming Emperor and preserve the democratic republic.
But the tide had changed and it was taken for granted that the next ruler of Rome would do so as Emperor. It was merely left to determine what flavor of totalitarian government would be installed.
KFG
They don't send people into exile anymore.
Well no. Not sent. That was a poor choice of words. "Flee" before the gates slam shut is more like it. At the turn and middle of the last century many of my relatives got their timing wrong.
It not only can happen here, it is happening here. Complete with masses chanting it isn't happening; just like before. Tee Tum! Tee Tum! Tee Tum!
My papers are in order (by current standards, but for all I know I'm No Fly already), but London ain't exactly what it used to be and Paris has proven unreliable. Even places to go are dwindling and ironically it might turn out to be either Granada or Prague.
At least until the Moors and Turks invade.
Forgive me, I know I'm being cynical, but I'm being this cynical because I honestly feel there is legitimate reason to be this cynical.
KFG
How can you suspend something that doesn't exist then?
This was more or less Hamilton's argument against a Bill of Rights. He predicted arguments such as this, based on interpretation of the specific "grant" of right.
But as he pointed out, under the Constitution rights are not granted by the Constitution. Rights, in a government of, by and for the people are held by them in the first place, not doled out by a government that is merely their social tool.
The Constitution is not a grant of rights to the people, but The People imposing limits on the powers of government to infringe and usurp their innate rights. If the government is not allowed the power to infringe rights, no code is necessary to enforce them, and no code exists to be warped into its Newspeak antithesis.
The government only has the power attributed to it by The People. Power is to the people. The Constitution is a limit on the government's power, not your rights. Have we got that?
But The People have come to think of government as the source of power and the doler of rights. Essentially Monarchial. That's why even the term "Liberal" now means a grant from the government, rather than the freedom of the people, and why even "Liberal" in the modern socialist sense is a legitimately bad word in terms of American political philosophy. It implys you are a ward/serf of the state. Someone to importune for a handout, when in point of fact the power, money and services are yours, by ownership and by right.
That these people are being allowed to pervert the system in the name of "Conservatism" to install an Orwellian fascist state is a crime against The People. Literally. The People ought to send them to jail. They belong there.
I fear, however, that instead I, and those like me, shall be sent to exile at best; and the wall at worst.
Been nice knowing you; have a happy; and remember, you do not watch the TV Grandpa, the TV watches you. When you least expect it, you're elected, it's your lucky day. Smile! You're on candid camera. We come in peace. Shoot to kill.
KFG
If they can make a reasonable electric battery for a car that provide power for trips up to 60 km or so without needing a recharge, transportation could change dramatically.
Yeah, then all we'd need is this shit called "energy."
KFG
This shouldn't be fracking rocket science.
Well, rocket science is simple at its heart and several centuries old.
But what you are looking for is more than 100 years old nonetheless. One might wonder where it went.
If I can't buy it then it does me no good.
One might also wonder if there were ways of acquiring one's needs without buying them, or at least reducing that which needs to be bought to the commodity level. It seems I can no longer buy a classic, double breasted trenchcoat because "nobody" is wearing them anymore. I do, however, have a sewing machine. Hello, my name is "Nobody."
Yes, a car is a bit more complicated, both physically and legally, but the principal still stands.
And since you're in the realm of dreaming, you might also want to consider if a car is really what you want to buy. Perhaps if we're shifting paradigms and all there is a better one.
KFG
You mean like the one designed by Porsche and produced by Lohner, with the advancement of hub motors (like the GM Sunraycer), more than 100 years ago?
KFG
Discarded things are often found.
Bach's manuscripts were discoverd as butcher's paper.
The music of slaves and the early pre-blues artists in the US South were thought to be crap bythe white plantation owners, and not worthy of preserving.
The old music of Ireland (the stuff we have now as traditional is quite modern as music goes) was deliberately destroyed by Lizzie the Great and Cromwell, to the extent of killing everyone who knew it.
If anyone at the time could have put on the internet. . .
KFG
Poster may be bitter about (1) having a finance whose apartment is infested with a cat and (2) being allergic to the damn things.
Well then you should have talked her into just shacking up; and if you think you're allergic now, just wait until she becomes a wife.
KFG
My cats acts like he can't see the food I put in front of him.
Hide it someplace like it's something special you don't want him to get into. It'll be gone in seconds.
KFG
The point is not the money - that was just a way of demonstrating value.
.it would be especially interesting to see what he discarded.
But price and value are unrelated. Find a better way.
. .
The crap; which you wouldn't see if he discarded it. The Internet doesn't change that.
KFG
Is it compatible with Windows Vista's DRM requirements?
The roadmap has it slated for SP4; but I advise reading the EULA very carefully before installing.
And beware the blue haze of death all in your brain.
KFG
. . .what is not backed up will gain - price- because of its rarity.
Imagine how much you could make if you found a lost Shakespeare sonnet today - discarded by Shakespeare because he thought it was utter crap.
Now imagine that it was utter crap. Do not confuse the collectable value with the innate value. The Internet does not store collectability. It stores information. The sonnet, not the manuscript.
KFG
Dannon and Yoplait who together have the majority of the US market and whose products carry the label.
.
Yes; Dannon and Yoplait are notable for having live and active cultures and are suitable to use as a starter. I've always used Dannon myself, because it is reliable, whereas most commercial stuff is not.
Bummer that they've joined the gelatin crowd.
This article is really about them . .
Yeah, just like the National Yogurt Association.
KFG
. . .not sterilize it.
.it even says 'contains live cultures' on it.
I didn't say anything about sterilizing.
. .
No, "it" doesn't.
KFG
Actually, when making yoghurt, the milk is first pasteurized, and then new lactobacteria are added. It's not pasteurized again and so yoghurt will contain living lactobacteria.
Yeeeeeeeah? That's the way I make it.
There is yoghurt that is pasteurized again, but this is only too prolong its shelf life.
Yeeeeeeeeah? That would be most of the commercial stuff you'll find on . . . shelves. That's why the article is here, innit?
KFG
Jesus Christ, are we really that disconnected from our food these days?
.bacteria.
Dude, bacteria is what yogurt is. It's milk, spoiled under controled conditions. Conditions that promote the growth of . .
For the past few decades commercial yogurt has been pastuerized, i.e, put under controlled conditions that kill bacteria. Don't do that and your yogurt remains live. That's all there is to it.
KFG