. ..it looks like you're OK with us polluting willy nilly when we know other byproducts of combustion that turns fossil fuel into air carbon . ..
Balderdash. Your are assigning me personal and political beliefs because of my views on science, because my science point of view does not match your political point of view.
And anyone who has read my posts over any length of time knows this is absolute nonsense. When the shit hits the fan you would be well advised to find me. I can not only keep you alive through a reversion to the stone age, but I'd have fun doing it. The irony of our modern civilization is how incredibly inhuman it is. Our cities are most notable for being entirely devoid of the things necessary to sustain human life, all of which must be provided from outside.
My vision of an ideal culture would be something more akin to Northeast Woodland Native American, with antibiotics and bicycles.
Factories are useful, but I do not need a factory to make my stuff. A sturdy steel knife and axe head are great time savers though.
In the threads where I talk about that and living inside the carbon cycle I get accused of being a tree hugging, hippy luddite.
. ..given us increased rates of cancer and asthma.
But I try not to let my druthers make me stupid. I do not go assigning blame for things I don't like to bad things that are happening without some sort of evidence that they are actually causal.
And correlation is not causation.
There is enlightened selfinterest in this; because if I assign the wrong blame to the bad thing I am very unlikely to find the true blame and keep the bad things from happening; assuming they can be prevented at all.
Preventing bad things from happening is not always possible, and really, they're only "bad" from your own perspective. You may be the center of your universe, but that doesn't imply that you are the center of the universe.
You seem to want the climate to be entirely free from constraints of cause and effect, it can go wherever it wants for no reason at all.
Balderdash. For starters, I don't "want" anything. This goes a long way toward freeing me from whatever the current fashionable hysteria happens to be. For seconds, things happen because of causes. Nothing happens "just because."
That's magic. There is no magic. If there is something to the "paranormal" it isn't paranormal. If it happens, it happens for reason. Reasons are normal.
This is, I think, what you mean by instability
Balderdash. If I stand my bicycle up, it falls over, because it is unstable. This hardly implies that it fell over for no reason.
false equating of weather behavior and climate behavior has been a major part of a well funded attempt to decieve the public
Bingo!
Skeptical about global warming?
I explicitly stated that I was not.
you can still save money by switching to solar
And in other threads I have explicitly stated that it's all about the Sun, all the time. My transportation needs are already 90% covered by solar energy (some non solar energy is used to create my solar energy). Are yours? I have no particular love for the smoke and soot belching monsters I have to share the road with. I'm not even all that fond of roads, per se. I have been an enviromentalist since a small child, before Silent Spring was published.
But I try not to let it make me stupid. My politics do not drive my science.
It's sad that there's a massive following of climate change deniers online. ..
Look up, "The Year Without a Summer."
It was caused by . ..volcanos eruputing. For decades volcanoes have been well understood to cause global cooling by spreading ash into the high atmosphere which reflects solar radiation.
It's sad there's a massive following of the global warming is going to kill us all promoters online and off, to the extent that they've had to warp everything bad that happens, everytime, everywhere, to the effects of global warming.
Even ice ages fercrisakes.
No, I am not a global warming denier. 12,000 years ago Ireland was just emerging from under a sheet of glacial ice. Now there are palm trees in Kerry. Sea levels have risen about 400 feet. Things have clearly warmed up a bit. You'd have to be a kook to deny that. I'm a global climactic instability insistor. It's always, going up, or down; and sometimes even sideways (large, but local, changes. See the Sahara).
The climate will stop changing when the Sun expands and strips away the atmosphere; and not one minute before.
If this really bothers you go build yourself a biodome out beyond the Heliopause, but good luck controling its climate.
Most of which goes to . ..cancer research. Outside of warfare perhaps the biggest money sink in human history. I know this might be hard to grasp, but spending money only implies spending money, not results. Throwing money into a hole just wastes your money.
Money only buys labor and "stuff," not understanding.
And if you're willing to pay $500 for the phone, chances are you'll be willing to pay full price on the plan.
Does spending $2000 on a computer imply you'd have no problem paying $100/month for dialup, you profligate spendthrift you?
Of course not. The reason to pay $500 for a phone is to actually own your own phone and avoid the expensive, locked in, plan subsidizing the cheap phones.
TNSTAAFL; phones cost you $500. Even the "free" ones.
In any case I've never understood the arguement that if you spend what appears to be a lot of money on something you must have lots more, and you're willing to just burn it. In point of fact, when most people spend a lot of money on something the implication is that they don't have much left; and if your desire is to sell them something expensive you should have got there before the other guy.
Shouldn't you need an offending video camera to convict someone of this *anywhere?*
Yes. My first reaction to reading that was, "And the problem is?"
Actually, I've got a decent idea what the problem is, if someone watches your movie taken on the sly with a video camera in a theater replayed in a tiny little window on their computer and their reacition is not, "Whoa! I've got to go buy that so I can see it all proper like":
The problem is that your movie sucks.
They could, of course, solve the problem by making fewer, but better, movies. To not make a movie unless someone actually thinks the end product will be something worthwhile, but once you have reduced a creative endevour to an "industry" the fire in the boiler must be stoked constantly.
The moon landing really happened. The pictures were faked, but to prevent you from seeing the real truth. Here is one of the actual photos of conditions the astronauts found on the moon:
Bonito Mussolini was named after a kind of tuna fish. He was born in the year 1726 and died of natural causes 800 years later'.
And there are students who would mindlessly quote this. It's what we get for "educating" them in mindlessly quoting things; but it serves the higher purpose.
Well, you've rather hit my initial reaction on the head.
To me an intelligent community is one that deploys and manages its community with some semblence of intelligence, creating a general atmosphere of what is often called "livability."
If we use that as our measure than American cities are. . .
Oh, the figures have the gut feel of truth to me. For every Jack Welch there are dozens of dot coms that went bust in a couple of years; leaving their CEOs flipping burgers.
The real question is why shouldn't they be expected to flip burgers after their tenure as CEO is over? Is there something about the job that disables them from being able to work and take care of themselves? Do they get kneecapped or something? Their arms stop functioning?
Why should the 4 to 7 year job of CEO be considered a lifetime sinecure?
It's a job, just like any other. If it goes south on you, go get another one like all the other employees have to.
And really, if you've been making a mil or more for 4 to 7 years and are in danger of becoming destitute over the loss of your job, ever, what we have here is failure to manage personal finances. For God's sake, drive a Chevy and put something away.
In all seriousness, cats are, by nature, sneaky eaters. They kill something and then drag it off somewhere to feast alone. Eating is not a social event for them. It is something to be done in solitude, where there is a feeling of security.
Even after millenia of domestication many cats, given their druthers, would still like the food to be behind the couch, not in front of their face.
Simplicity is the ultimate dogma of science, the thing that it believes without proof and without the possibility of proof, but it has nonetheless shown itself to be useful.
Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler.
For which I can't take personal credit. It's attributed to Pauli.
Last I checked, Mr Popper was a bit of a stubborn about how an experiment can disprove a theory, but it never can prove it!
I take it you didn't get the post-modern science memo.
KFG
Epilog:
When I first tried to post this I got a message saying that "This user does not exist, no matter how much you want him to."
Anecdotal evidence suggested that I do, in fact, exist, since I think, I think, so I attributed the result to experimental error and reran it; failing to falsify my existence in the process.
Of course my methodology could just be so bad it's not even wrong.
I am aware that I'm being a smartass. Nonetheless I am doing so to illustrate a point which is valid.
I'm not sure why there's this impression that CEOs don't work.
Who said they don't work? The question is whether they work effectively, and what happens to them when they do not.
What happens to the kid in the mailroom if he doesn't deliver the mail, no matter how much work he expends in not delivering it? What happens to a salesman who works his ass off to not sell anything?
Where is the salesman's parachute?..the board has institutional investors, outsiders and other shareholder to answer to, and that's exactly what they're there to oversee...
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. . .it looks like you're OK with us polluting willy nilly when we know other byproducts of combustion that turns fossil fuel into air carbon . . .
.given us increased rates of cancer and asthma.
Balderdash. Your are assigning me personal and political beliefs because of my views on science, because my science point of view does not match your political point of view.
And anyone who has read my posts over any length of time knows this is absolute nonsense. When the shit hits the fan you would be well advised to find me. I can not only keep you alive through a reversion to the stone age, but I'd have fun doing it. The irony of our modern civilization is how incredibly inhuman it is. Our cities are most notable for being entirely devoid of the things necessary to sustain human life, all of which must be provided from outside.
My vision of an ideal culture would be something more akin to Northeast Woodland Native American, with antibiotics and bicycles.
Factories are useful, but I do not need a factory to make my stuff. A sturdy steel knife and axe head are great time savers though.
In the threads where I talk about that and living inside the carbon cycle I get accused of being a tree hugging, hippy luddite.
. .
But I try not to let my druthers make me stupid. I do not go assigning blame for things I don't like to bad things that are happening without some sort of evidence that they are actually causal.
And correlation is not causation.
There is enlightened selfinterest in this; because if I assign the wrong blame to the bad thing I am very unlikely to find the true blame and keep the bad things from happening; assuming they can be prevented at all.
Preventing bad things from happening is not always possible, and really, they're only "bad" from your own perspective. You may be the center of your universe, but that doesn't imply that you are the center of the universe.
KFG
You seem to want the climate to be entirely free from constraints of cause and effect, it can go wherever it wants for no reason at all.
Balderdash. For starters, I don't "want" anything. This goes a long way toward freeing me from whatever the current fashionable hysteria happens to be. For seconds, things happen because of causes. Nothing happens "just because."
That's magic. There is no magic. If there is something to the "paranormal" it isn't paranormal. If it happens, it happens for reason. Reasons are normal.
This is, I think, what you mean by instability
Balderdash. If I stand my bicycle up, it falls over, because it is unstable. This hardly implies that it fell over for no reason.
false equating of weather behavior and climate behavior has been a major part of a well funded attempt to decieve the public
Bingo!
Skeptical about global warming?
I explicitly stated that I was not.
you can still save money by switching to solar
And in other threads I have explicitly stated that it's all about the Sun, all the time. My transportation needs are already 90% covered by solar energy (some non solar energy is used to create my solar energy). Are yours? I have no particular love for the smoke and soot belching monsters I have to share the road with. I'm not even all that fond of roads, per se. I have been an enviromentalist since a small child, before Silent Spring was published.
But I try not to let it make me stupid. My politics do not drive my science.
KFG
It's sad that there's a massive following of climate change deniers online. . .
.volcanos eruputing. For decades volcanoes have been well understood to cause global cooling by spreading ash into the high atmosphere which reflects solar radiation.
Look up, "The Year Without a Summer."
It was caused by . .
It's sad there's a massive following of the global warming is going to kill us all promoters online and off, to the extent that they've had to warp everything bad that happens, everytime, everywhere, to the effects of global warming.
Even ice ages fercrisakes.
No, I am not a global warming denier. 12,000 years ago Ireland was just emerging from under a sheet of glacial ice. Now there are palm trees in Kerry. Sea levels have risen about 400 feet. Things have clearly warmed up a bit. You'd have to be a kook to deny that. I'm a global climactic instability insistor. It's always, going up, or down; and sometimes even sideways (large, but local, changes. See the Sahara).
The climate will stop changing when the Sun expands and strips away the atmosphere; and not one minute before.
If this really bothers you go build yourself a biodome out beyond the Heliopause, but good luck controling its climate.
KFG
Sometimes the war on drugs just makes me shake my head.
The war on drugs has nothing to do with drugs, per se.
It's about race, class, Calvanist anti-sensual morality and just plain power mongering social control.
I left something out. What the hell is it?
Oh, yeah, money. You can always learn something by following the money.
KFG
Still no cure for cancer.
.cancer research. Outside of warfare perhaps the biggest money sink in human history. I know this might be hard to grasp, but spending money only implies spending money, not results. Throwing money into a hole just wastes your money.
Why? Because that's hard.
Good to know research money is well spent.
Most of which goes to . .
Money only buys labor and "stuff," not understanding.
KFG
But wait! Don't order yet.
He's already at work inventing the decafinated version.
KFG
He got it straight from John Seigenthaler who aided the midwife at the birth of Mussolini.
In fact, Mussolini got his name because John exclaimed, "Jesus Fucking Christ, it looks and smells like a dead tuna," when Mussolini popped out.
If you don't believe me you can just look it up on Wikipedia for yourself.
KFG
And if you're willing to pay $500 for the phone, chances are you'll be willing to pay full price on the plan.
Does spending $2000 on a computer imply you'd have no problem paying $100/month for dialup, you profligate spendthrift you?
Of course not. The reason to pay $500 for a phone is to actually own your own phone and avoid the expensive, locked in, plan subsidizing the cheap phones.
TNSTAAFL; phones cost you $500. Even the "free" ones.
In any case I've never understood the arguement that if you spend what appears to be a lot of money on something you must have lots more, and you're willing to just burn it. In point of fact, when most people spend a lot of money on something the implication is that they don't have much left; and if your desire is to sell them something expensive you should have got there before the other guy.
KFG
Shouldn't you need an offending video camera to convict someone of this *anywhere?*
Yes. My first reaction to reading that was, "And the problem is?"
Actually, I've got a decent idea what the problem is, if someone watches your movie taken on the sly with a video camera in a theater replayed in a tiny little window on their computer and their reacition is not, "Whoa! I've got to go buy that so I can see it all proper like":
The problem is that your movie sucks.
They could, of course, solve the problem by making fewer, but better, movies. To not make a movie unless someone actually thinks the end product will be something worthwhile, but once you have reduced a creative endevour to an "industry" the fire in the boiler must be stoked constantly.
Feed me, Samuel.
KFG
KFG
The moon landing really happened. The pictures were faked, but to prevent you from seeing the real truth. Here is one of the actual photos of conditions the astronauts found on the moon:
There is nightlife on the Moon
KFG
Bonito Mussolini was named after a kind of tuna fish. He was born in the year 1726 and died of natural causes 800 years later'.
And there are students who would mindlessly quote this. It's what we get for "educating" them in mindlessly quoting things; but it serves the higher purpose.
Bellyfeel is doubleplus good: yes.
KFG
I don't see RAM, how do I put ram on that thing.
The 256k of cache ought to be enough for anybody.
KFG
What the hell is Quality of Life . . .
What you don't get a positive experience of after installing Vista.
KFG
The information is also needed to enroll in benefits programs.
I can get benefits for applying? Cooooooooooooool!
KFG
Like most government programs, they start out with nice intentions but fail terribly when implemented. The US doesn't have an education service.
No, it doesn't, but it is working exactly as designed.
KFG
I wonder how much of it is inside those borders.
Bugger All
KFG
Well, you've rather hit my initial reaction on the head.
To me an intelligent community is one that deploys and manages its community with some semblence of intelligence, creating a general atmosphere of what is often called "livability."
If we use that as our measure than American cities are. . .
Oh. Wait. Nevermind.
Crumb's Short History of America
KFG
Oh, the figures have the gut feel of truth to me. For every Jack Welch there are dozens of dot coms that went bust in a couple of years; leaving their CEOs flipping burgers.
The real question is why shouldn't they be expected to flip burgers after their tenure as CEO is over? Is there something about the job that disables them from being able to work and take care of themselves? Do they get kneecapped or something? Their arms stop functioning?
Why should the 4 to 7 year job of CEO be considered a lifetime sinecure?
It's a job, just like any other. If it goes south on you, go get another one like all the other employees have to.
And really, if you've been making a mil or more for 4 to 7 years and are in danger of becoming destitute over the loss of your job, ever, what we have here is failure to manage personal finances. For God's sake, drive a Chevy and put something away.
KFG
It doesn't explain the cycles. . .
.the cold air is being caused by the jet stream shifting south.
Well, so much for that hypothesis.
. .
And you might want to read up on the difference between convective and radiative heating. Winter is not caused by cold air.
KFG
Obviously people are causing the 100,000 - 41,000 year cycles.
OMG!!! We need to save the Sun!
KFG
In all seriousness, cats are, by nature, sneaky eaters. They kill something and then drag it off somewhere to feast alone. Eating is not a social event for them. It is something to be done in solitude, where there is a feeling of security.
Even after millenia of domestication many cats, given their druthers, would still like the food to be behind the couch, not in front of their face.
KFG
Keep running the experiment; eventually you'll get the outcome you expect.
Then quick, stop and publish, before someone else runs the experiment again.
KFG
Simplicity is the ultimate dogma of science, the thing that it believes without proof and without the possibility of proof, but it has nonetheless shown itself to be useful.
Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler.
KFG
while this is funny. . .
For which I can't take personal credit. It's attributed to Pauli.
Last I checked, Mr Popper was a bit of a stubborn about how an experiment can disprove a theory, but it never can prove it!
I take it you didn't get the post-modern science memo.
KFG
Epilog:
When I first tried to post this I got a message saying that "This user does not exist, no matter how much you want him to."
Anecdotal evidence suggested that I do, in fact, exist, since I think, I think, so I attributed the result to experimental error and reran it; failing to falsify my existence in the process.
Of course my methodology could just be so bad it's not even wrong.
I am aware that I'm being a smartass. Nonetheless I am doing so to illustrate a point which is valid.
..the board has institutional investors, outsiders and other shareholder to answer to, and that's exactly what they're there to oversee...
I'm not sure why there's this impression that CEOs don't work.
Who said they don't work? The question is whether they work effectively, and what happens to them when they do not.
What happens to the kid in the mailroom if he doesn't deliver the mail, no matter how much work he expends in not delivering it? What happens to a salesman who works his ass off to not sell anything?
Where is the salesman's parachute?
Exactly.
KFG