Any other cities with a u and i in it? And would it work the other way, with i and u?/Simon
Just keep using KDE 3.5.x until you want to switch
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What To Expect In KDE 4.1
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From what I've been reading KDE 4.1 still will be a little on the rough side and there are issues with the closed source nvidia driver (get other hardware!).
There's no obligation to use KDE 4.1, since KDE 3.5 will still be there and supported as well. I don't understand the whining from users feeling let down or dissapointed, you always have a choice.
I try using KDE 4.x.x every now and then, I suggest you try the same without a feeling of being forced to use it, just curiosity!
In the long run, I believe KDE 4 will be a very solid platform for desktops for a very long time (until the next big change of course;-)
Ok, longish reply, but I feel I need to get a message out...
In the real world, there are several different workflows for creating documents, some require pictures, some require cooperation with others, some require extensive version control and change tracking, some require cross platform compatibility, some require all of these and more.
The problem with almost all wordprocessors I've tried is that they're not workflow oriented, they just have a document format and try the best they can to accommodate a user interface around it that immitates something that the developers know/like. This doesn't help the world create better document workflows or better document creators!
For my thesis, I used LaTeX and Xfig (and make), this worked ok, but it's not for everyone. Xfig is an old program with a horrible user interface, but it produces wonderful.eps files, which integrate perfectly with LaTeX, which creates wonderful.ps output. It's also remarkably stable in quality and format (it's ascii based, which is always human editable).
Currently, I'm trying to work with OpenOffice.org and Inkscape to create a similar sized document, in cooperation with several people, some of whom refuse to touch openoffice and send me word files with visio images:-( Openoffice doesn't work with SVG files though, and has very limited change tracking. Inkscape is a wonderful vector editing program (though it has some GUI quirks, as most FLOSS has;-), but openoffice, though XML based, cannot handle XML based SVG at all. Neither does it support its own ODG format for including pictures! The handling of pictures and captions is very confusing and unpredictable as well.
In order to have a fully functional document editor (in OO writer) in the real world, it must handle including pictures properly, it MUST support its own ODG format and it SHOULD support SVG fully (at least for display and printing).
One problem with OOo is that a lot of bugs (over 2700) are assigned to bh (Bettina Haberer from Sun) and some of the problems I mentioned are among them and have been open for over 4 years: - 5038; Outline numbering lacks commonly-used abilities (may 19, 2002) - 6191; Right-click accept / reject changes (jun 27, 2002)
I'm sure there are more and of course, not just for this one developer (It's not my intention to pick on Bettina, it's just an example)
For openoffice to progress, it needs to promote developer activity on open bugs and issues, they weren't reported for nothing! To leave such bugs open for 4 years is not respectful to the reporters of the bugs or the users of openoffice.
Sorry for the long post, I just needed to get this off my chest, so thanks for reading...
The end-users need incentives to not polute the (digital) environment, so sending bills in return for sending spam is helpful.
In order to make it acceptable, an ISP could start by dealing out points first (adding or subtracting, like traffic violations cause points to be taken off your license in some countries). They could give positive rewards for not sending spam and eventually charge people when they do send spam.
I don't see any other way, because people just don't learn if it's for free.
I'm a native dutch person and I'm very ashamed to say that the parent is more or less accurate about our current immigration policy:-(
There's a chance that it will improve again, but currently there's a (grassroots/astroturf?) fear campaign against foreigners, mostly focussed on islamic cultured or coloured people, but americans as well (your current president isn't helping your reputation!).
My only apology can be that I didn't vote for this government.
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Steal This Film
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First of all, if I'd had mod-points, I'd mod you overrated.
The documentary is basically showing the Pirate Bay's side of the story, including the political muscle-work of the MPAA/RIAA via the US and Swedish governments to arrest citizens in sweden without any (local) legal basis. (The Pirate Bay was not sharing movies, just meta-data, which doesn't seem to be illegal in Sweden).
I'd say they bring a message that the endless plots to pull money out of the distribution problem of old, is no longer very plausible. There's no way they can keep up suppressing human desire to _Share Culture_ unless they put everyone in prison.
And besides this, they should realise that most people have some sense of quality and taste (even Americans;-) and they will at some point stop buying the crap they put out for people to spend money on. No wonder sales are dropping.
Supply full GPL/BSD licensed source code to the X.org and kernel.org for inclusion in mainline. That will trigger a lot of positive support.
Besides, I don't really see a downside, because who, besides free software lovers, would be motivated to buy something non-nvidia and non-ati at this point?
Just an observation, you guys (native english speakers) should really invent/adopt and use a new word so gratis and libre meanings get totally separated.
I think your language is starting to affect your thinking too much!/Simon (Dutch native speaker)
The thing you're not taking into account is that Debian's security team, while having a professional attitude, are volunteers. Microsoft has more money than it can spend (legally), so has no excuse in terms of "lack of manpower", unless they don't exist on the planet.
Come to think of it, perhaps they're all working at Microsoft? Or maybe Microsoft could help out the Debian guys by funding some FTEs for Debian's security team, since it will help secure the Internet (which runs for a large part on Debian systems anyway;-)
When all is said and done, there is only one key difference between Linux and BSD, the license. Companies like IBM don't mind GPLing their technology for the same reason TrollTech doesn't mind GPLing Qt....If anyone wants to use it in a commercial product, they have to pay IBM, TrollTech, Sleepycat, etc for the right to take the code prorietary. And although your competitors may have access to your source code, they can't do anything with it without releasing their changes so you can benefit from it. When a company GPLs their product, they haven't really given it away.
The problem with this reasoning is that although this process allows others to use and improve the code, the original owner (say IBM) can never use that improvement in their own version unless the changes were given a more charitative license than the GPL. This is because their own product becomes a derivative work of the improvements by a third party.
Otherwise I agree with your interpretation of TFA. The GPL certainly has its uses, especially when protecting the future of a small fish in the ocean full of sharks.
big media companies just don't want to lose their market, which is perfectly understandable, but they are no longer necessary, they should just liquidate and go do something useful with their assets...
people balance their expenses and if you can easily copy music or software and use it without depriving others of the same, that's a very social thing to do and probably very good for the local economy, since then people spend more money in local shops or bars. Maybe people will eat healthier food because they can afford it while using the copied stuff for free.
information is free to copy, so trying to block that is unnatural and wrong.
While I agree with you on the "think before you buy" aspect of your rethoric. In this case I think it could help:
- it reduces the amount of general waste, thus reducing the cost of moving it out of the city. - it reduces the smell of compostable waste in a kitchen, thus making this recycling more attractive - it makes people more aware of their effect on the environment.
Mandrakesoft is doing fine, but now they are making profit again, they should work on getting more people to both fix big annoying bugs that no volunteer can/wants to handle and also get some people to drag the Club out of the desolate mess it's turned into since Deno left.
Mandrakesoft should (and probably does) realise the profit was more of a statement to the world than something that shows long-term health.
If they manage to hire some really good people in the first quarter of 2005, I think Mandrake 11.0 could be really good, but if they don't....:-(
I think mandrake is not "Linux for Newbies" persee, it's quite easy to install, but it does more than that. Their ideals are in some ways quite debian-like pro-GPL and openness, but rpm based. Their urpmi package installer is the only one that comes close to debian's apt system.
But while easy to use and install, it's still very suitable for experts, more so than for example Suse, who expect you to use only graphical tools (Yast) to configure stuff.
The main problem with mandrake is lack of focus and lack of manpower to achieve their ideals more quickly.
Or it means that Linus is a lot smarter than Bush and McBride;-)
And w.r.t. languages, you're forgetting C and assembly;-). And with Russia so close to Finland, I would guess russian isn't complete gobbledygook to him either.
Isn't this because it's not possible to arrest someone who's carrying a gun (or owns a gun without a license)?
I mean, you guys have all these laws that allow everyone to own a gun, but then you get this and you wonder why the president is not accessible anymore (not that he minds of course;-)
If losing a war is what it takes to become wise about the horrors of war and the available pacifistic alternatives, I hope that the US/UK alliance loses (or at least not wins) this war.
But on the other hand, I don't want Saddam to win either. This war just isn't right and any choice is probably a bad one. And staying neutral is probably a bad choice as well...
I hate this world, time to move on to.... Betelgeuse;-)
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Any other cities with a u and i in it? And would it work the other way, with i and u? /Simon
From what I've been reading KDE 4.1 still will be a little on the rough side and there are issues with the closed source nvidia driver (get other hardware!).
There's no obligation to use KDE 4.1, since KDE 3.5 will still be there and supported as well. I don't understand the whining from users feeling let down or dissapointed, you always have a choice.
I try using KDE 4.x.x every now and then, I suggest you try the same without a feeling of being forced to use it, just curiosity!
In the long run, I believe KDE 4 will be a very solid platform for desktops for a very long time (until the next big change of course ;-)
Cheers (and no worries!)
Simon
Ok, longish reply, but I feel I need to get a message out...
.eps files, which integrate perfectly with LaTeX, which creates wonderful .ps output. It's also remarkably stable in quality and format (it's ascii based, which is always human editable).
:-( ;-), but openoffice, though XML based, cannot handle XML based SVG at all. Neither does it support its own ODG format for including pictures! The handling of pictures and captions is very confusing and unpredictable as well.
In the real world, there are several different workflows for creating documents, some require pictures, some require cooperation with others, some require extensive version control and change tracking, some require cross platform compatibility, some require all of these and more.
The problem with almost all wordprocessors I've tried is that they're not workflow oriented, they just have a document format and try the best they can to accommodate a user interface around it that immitates something that the developers know/like. This doesn't help the world create better document workflows or better document creators!
For my thesis, I used LaTeX and Xfig (and make), this worked ok, but it's not for everyone. Xfig is an old program with a horrible user interface, but it produces wonderful
Currently, I'm trying to work with OpenOffice.org and Inkscape to create a similar sized document, in cooperation with several people, some of whom refuse to touch openoffice and send me word files with visio images
Openoffice doesn't work with SVG files though, and has very limited change tracking. Inkscape is a wonderful vector editing program (though it has some GUI quirks, as most FLOSS has
In order to have a fully functional document editor (in OO writer) in the real world, it must handle including pictures properly, it MUST support its own ODG format and it SHOULD support SVG fully (at least for display and printing).
One problem with OOo is that a lot of bugs (over 2700) are assigned to bh (Bettina Haberer from Sun) and some of the problems I mentioned are among them and have been open for over 4 years:
- 5038; Outline numbering lacks commonly-used abilities (may 19, 2002)
- 6191; Right-click accept / reject changes (jun 27, 2002)
I'm sure there are more and of course, not just for this one developer (It's not my intention to pick on Bettina, it's just an example)
For openoffice to progress, it needs to promote developer activity on open bugs and issues, they weren't reported for nothing! To leave such bugs open for 4 years is not respectful to the reporters of the bugs or the users of openoffice.
Sorry for the long post, I just needed to get this off my chest, so thanks for reading...
-Simon
The end-users need incentives to not polute the (digital) environment, so sending bills in return for sending spam is helpful.
In order to make it acceptable, an ISP could start by dealing out points first (adding or subtracting, like traffic violations cause points to be taken off your license in some countries). They could give positive rewards for not sending spam and eventually charge people when they do send spam.
I don't see any other way, because people just don't learn if it's for free.
Simon
I'm a native dutch person and I'm very ashamed to say that the parent is more or less accurate about our current immigration policy :-(
There's a chance that it will improve again, but currently there's a (grassroots/astroturf?) fear campaign against foreigners, mostly focussed on islamic cultured or coloured people, but americans as well (your current president isn't helping your reputation!).
My only apology can be that I didn't vote for this government.
First of all, if I'd had mod-points, I'd mod you overrated.
;-) and they will at some point stop buying the crap they put out for people to spend money on. No wonder sales are dropping.
The documentary is basically showing the Pirate Bay's side of the story, including the political muscle-work of the MPAA/RIAA via the US and Swedish governments to arrest citizens in sweden without any (local) legal basis. (The Pirate Bay was not sharing movies, just meta-data, which doesn't seem to be illegal in Sweden).
I'd say they bring a message that the endless plots to pull money out of the distribution problem of old, is no longer very plausible. There's no way they can keep up suppressing human desire to _Share Culture_ unless they put everyone in prison.
And besides this, they should realise that most people have some sense of quality and taste (even Americans
Cheers
Simon
Why not merge with OpenGraphics? ;-)
/Simon
Could be the start of a completely Open Architecture!
Supply full GPL/BSD licensed source code to the X.org and kernel.org for inclusion in mainline. That will trigger a lot of positive support.
Besides, I don't really see a downside, because who, besides free software lovers, would be motivated to buy something non-nvidia and non-ati at this point?
Cheers
Simon
Just an observation, you guys (native english speakers) should really invent/adopt and use a new word so gratis and libre meanings get totally separated.
/Simon (Dutch native speaker)
I think your language is starting to affect your thinking too much!
Why is this moderated "Funny" instead of "insightful"?
The thing you're not taking into account is that Debian's security team, while having a professional attitude, are volunteers. Microsoft has more money than it can spend (legally), so has no excuse in terms of "lack of manpower", unless they don't exist on the planet.
;-)
Come to think of it, perhaps they're all working at Microsoft? Or maybe Microsoft could help out the Debian guys by funding some FTEs for Debian's security team, since it will help secure the Internet (which runs for a large part on Debian systems anyway
Cheers
Simon
The problem with this reasoning is that although this process allows others to use and improve the code, the original owner (say IBM) can never use that improvement in their own version unless the changes were given a more charitative license than the GPL. This is because their own product becomes a derivative work of the improvements by a third party.
Otherwise I agree with your interpretation of TFA. The GPL certainly has its uses, especially when protecting the future of a small fish in the ocean full of sharks.
Bingo, spot on!
big media companies just don't want to lose their market, which is perfectly understandable, but they are no longer necessary, they should just liquidate and go do something useful with their assets...
people balance their expenses and if you can easily copy music or software and use it without depriving others of the same, that's a very social thing to do and probably very good for the local economy, since then people spend more money in local shops or bars. Maybe people will eat healthier food because they can afford it while using the copied stuff for free.
information is free to copy, so trying to block that is unnatural and wrong.
Talking about opensource software from NASA, has someone ported winvn to Linux yet?
tnx
Simon
How can you steal music when you're just listening to it...?
;-)
Or were you mistyping "don't listen to metal"
While I agree with you on the "think before you buy" aspect of your rethoric. In this case I think it could help:
/Simon
- it reduces the amount of general waste, thus reducing the cost of moving it out of the city.
- it reduces the smell of compostable waste in a kitchen, thus making this recycling more attractive
- it makes people more aware of their effect on the environment.
Nothing is ever black or white.
Where is Godwin's law when you need it?
Or does this prove that Slashdot is not Usenet?
Mandrakesoft is doing fine, but now they are making profit again, they should work on getting more people to both fix big annoying bugs that no volunteer can/wants to handle and also get some people to drag the Club out of the desolate mess it's turned into since Deno left.
:-(
;-) /Simon
Mandrakesoft should (and probably does) realise the profit was more of a statement to the world than something that shows long-term health.
If they manage to hire some really good people in the first quarter of 2005, I think Mandrake 11.0 could be really good, but if they don't....
All IMHO of course
I think mandrake is not "Linux for Newbies" persee, it's quite easy to install, but it does more than that. Their ideals are in some ways quite debian-like pro-GPL and openness, but rpm based. Their urpmi package installer is the only one that comes close to debian's apt system.
But while easy to use and install, it's still very suitable for experts, more so than for example Suse, who expect you to use only graphical tools (Yast) to configure stuff.
The main problem with mandrake is lack of focus and lack of manpower to achieve their ideals more quickly.
Or it means that Linus is a lot smarter than Bush and McBride ;-)
;-). And with Russia so close to Finland, I would guess russian isn't complete gobbledygook to him either.
And w.r.t. languages, you're forgetting C and assembly
This is the most insightful message I've read in a long while!
:-(
;-)
And I just my moderation points 5 min. ago
life sucks
Isn't this because it's not possible to arrest someone who's carrying a gun (or owns a gun without a license)?
;-)
I mean, you guys have all these laws that allow everyone to own a gun, but then you get this and you wonder why the president is not accessible anymore (not that he minds of course
Or am I being to cynical?
Ha, mine uses LyX! Beat That!
If losing a war is what it takes to become wise about the horrors of war and the available pacifistic alternatives, I hope that the US/UK alliance loses (or at least not wins) this war.
;-)
But on the other hand, I don't want Saddam to win either. This war just isn't right and any choice is probably a bad one. And staying neutral is probably a bad choice as well...
I hate this world, time to move on to.... Betelgeuse
I've rarely used second hand disks, but even if I did I'd just not look at what's on it. It's kind of like not looking in the neighbour's trashkan...
Of course, that's no excuse for companies to leave sensitive data from their customers on their leftovers!
Simon