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Top 10 Linus Quotes on SCO
An anonymous reader noted LinuxWorld running an entertaining little Top Ten SCO-related "Linusisms. If you're new to the story, you might find these insightful... but you're reading this site on a sunday, so you probably will find them more amusing than informative.
and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux.
Ewwww! Gross! TMI, Linus!
Anything worth doing is worth doing badly -- G.K. Chesterton
"Quite frankly, I found it mostly interesting in a Jerry Springer kind of way. White trash battling it out in public, throwing chairs at each other. SCO crying about IBM's other women. ... Fairly entertaining"
My wife and I watch Jerry Springer, and just the other day I said it reminded me of SCO. Coincidence? I think not.
Linus' 11th Quote:
"Who was smoking crack when they put my Top Ten SCO Barbs on a web server running SCO? Two comments and its already slashdotted!"
Kevin Mack's Top 10 Linus SCO quotes (in reverse order):
... Fairly entertaining"
[thanks to Dee-Ann LeBlanc for the link.]
10. Not About IP
"None of the SCO accusations have anything to do with IP rights; they're all about contracts between IBM and SCO. All the IP rights blathering by SCO was just that -- blathering"
9. Custody Battle
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
8. Lottery
"we have to sadly decline taking business model advice from a company that seems to have squandered all its money (that it made off a Linux IPO, I might add, since there's a nice bit of irony there), and now seems to play the US legal system as a lottery."
7. Copyright Law
"So . . . when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against 'financial gain', that notion that the GPL has of 'exchange of receipt of copyrighted works' is actually EXPLICITLY ENCODED in the US copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor."
6. Raelians
"SCO is playing it like the Raelians [the organization backed by Clonaid's founder, known as Rael], saying, 'We'll show you proof in a few weeks, through an expert panel that we trust.' Let's see if there is any baby or not."
5. Jerry Springer
"Quite frankly, I found it mostly interesting in a Jerry Springer kind of way. White trash battling it out in public, throwing chairs at each other. SCO crying about IBM's other women.
4. Stealing Cars In Bright Daylight
"Do you steal a car in the bright daylight with a lot of people around? Or do you steal a car, go for a joyride at 4 am in the morning when there aren't a lot of people around. With open source, there is a lot of daylight. A lot of people looking at the code. You don't really go around and steal things."
3. Constitution and Marriage
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution"
2. Smoking
"They are smoking crack."
And number one, according to Mack...
1. Please Grow Up
"we find your references to a negotiating table somewhat confusing, since there doesn't seem to be anything to negotiate about. SCO has yet to show any infringing IP in the Open Source domain, but we wait with bated breath for when you will actually care to inform us about what you are blathering about."
..Keep an eye on Freshmeat for the next day or so.
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but you're reading this site on a sunday, so you probably will...
not be able to access the site
Don't Panic
Our guy is one witty bastard.
I was watching that video someone took in the stands of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer doing that Matrix spoof, and the people gigglechuckling like idiots as that unimaginative crap unfolded. It's hard not to take as a guilty pleasure that we can hold our software's creator to a higher standard of comedy, in addition to software quality, pricing options, etc.
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Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...
Pure comedy gold! The scary thing is that it even sounds like something Darl would do!
Didn't someone post a link to a T-shirt with quote #3 on it on GrokLaw?
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You could probably make linus very happy.
So . . . when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against 'financial gain', that notion that the GPL has of 'exchange of receipt of copyrighted works' is actually EXPLICITLY ENCODED in the US copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor. (My emphasis.)
AHA! So you ADMIT that US copyright law was dreamed up by commies in drug-induced stupors (a.k.a. Hollywood/MPAA).
Irene KHAAAAAAN!
That's one of my favorite quotes.
I'm pretty sure McBride saw it coming from everybody else except Linus.
SCO at this point is like a ordering a pizza. Except, when the delivery guy gets to your door, he's forgotten the pizza, the 2-liter, the breadsticks, and the ticket. Instead of going back for the stuff though, he keeps banging on your door, threatening to call the cops if you don't pay up now. And he wants a tip. Or he is sooo keying your car. Watch him. He'll do it, damn it. He's crazy like that. Crazy baby. He'll do it man. He means it this time.........craaaaaaazy.......
Mod Points: Helping you keep your opinion to yourself.
Probably be less painful to boot.
2."They are smoking crack."
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"They are smoking crack" It is short simple and to the point.
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The guy standing there with his arms crossed just looks pissed.
(His Internal Monologe: "Those SOBs think I want Windows in my datacenter? Fuckers. I will Bablefish all their Word files to German...")
Linus, as awesome as I thought he was before, has definitely risen from "personal hero" to "demigod."
Any company that attempts to hijack an entire open operating system as its own deserves whatever punishments and/or mockery Linus and legislation can dole out.
Esoteric reference.
Drop the lawsuit and we will stop picking on you.
drop your suit, however and we will expatriate you to Neverland.
Contest winners for SCO slur contest:
3. SCUM
2. SCrOtum
and the winner is ...
1. Miserable fat SCO bastards!!!
I've been swashdotted -- Elmer Fudd
And Darl and the rest of the SCO gang have certainly made themselves public figures. Or laughingstocks, at least.
It seems as if Marcelo Tosatti, new kernel maintainer, will say some interesting things, not really Linus things though, more like Bush things ;)
Having that mentioned, I pretend to: - Fix pending problems which might required more intrusive modifications during 2.4.24. New drivers will be accept during this period (for example, Cyclades PC300 driver, input userlevel driver support, or other sane driver which might come up). - From 2.4.25 on, fix only critical/security problems.
Nor are we "Morons Confused by Sun Equipment".
What about SCO interns?
Apparently you've missed all of the real gems aimed squarely in either his or our direction from the SCO execs. (There are only two industries that have users, computers and drugs).
Think before you speak.
Careful. SCO might sue you for saying this.
We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are.
-- Anais Nin
I kept nodding my head in agreement as I read through these, and thinking, if it was Richard Stallman, I would have run across at least one that really bugged me by the end, but then it hit me:
Jerry Springer!
Let's see - Darl can sue for defamation for being compared to Springer. Springer can sue for being compared to Darl. Both can then sue each other for the comments each made over the first suit. None of the lawsuits will be worth a hill of beans, but that's no guarentee these days. Even if they don't, both could try to milk it for publicity a dozen other ways. (Can't you just see Jerry inviting Linus and Darl to appear together on his show? With a "supprise guest" claiming to be Darl's love-child/Linus's Stripper Ex-girlfriend?)
In legal matters, it's a good rule: Don't mention Jerry Springer, Rosanne Barr, Rush Limbaugh, Carmen Electra, Kato or Don Imus if they are not already involved.
Who is John Cabal?
Pretty fucking pathetic when you sit back and read the garbage SCO has spewed, and also very sad that it's coming from people who have far more money than most of us will ever have.
Ironic that the U.S. legal system that was founded on principles of personal responsibility now rewards immaturity and greed.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
"So . . . when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against 'financial gain', that notion that the GPL has of 'exchange of receipt of copyrighted works' is actually EXPLICITLY ENCODED in the US copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor."
That's exactly the sort of logic some drugged up leftist commie-hippy would use!I'm looking California... but feeling Minnesota...
"You see, I told you inciteful wasn't a word"
Here is to a midly amusing SCO story instead of the crapola it usally is (much like playing Rouge Leader and finding out that there ARE good Star Wars games)
There is nothing wrong with being gay. It's getting caught where the trouble lies.
What they had at No. 3
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution"
"With open source, there is a lot of daylight. A lot of people looking at the code. You don't really go around and steal things."
With open source, lots of people are looking at the code. If there's a bug, people will find it (well, that's the theory, at least).
I'm not convinced that lots of people are looking at where the code came from. To take FreeBSD Update as an example, I've engaged in lots of lengthy discussions about technical issues, but nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"
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Speaking as a born-in-the-1960s leftie commie hippy, who has done some of his best coding in a drug-induced stupor, I must strenuously object to this slur. C'mon, Linus, just because you moved from Helsinki to Los Angeles, you don't have to let go of *all* your Euro-libertarian ideals. :-) )
(I seem to remember reading -- on one of your very own web pages -- that the original Linux kernel was fueled by quite a bit of beer, right? So let's not diss altered states of consciousness too quickly.
D'oh, where did I leave my asbestos underwear?!?
If you search for Linux Quotes on google you'll find that linus has mad a lot of funny statements over the years...I always love reading his old mailing list entries!
Good Article!
I wait with bated breath for when you will actually care to inform us about what you are blathering about.
".. Alan Cox gets up, and tackles Zwane, who goes down in the mud. Oops. They were on the same side. I guess Alan got caught up in the rush. Jasper tries to take advantage of the situation, but slips in the mud, and goes down in a heap with Alexander..." :P
Definetly my favourite Linus quote
I wait with bated breath for when you will actually care to inform us about what you are blathering about. No, wait....I don't.
SCO should be sued by pine trees for character defamation.
I was beginning to have DTs.
But now that I got my dose fo SCO I'm ok.
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
Is Linux a child or a prostitute?
I guess the code really has matured and open source is taking on a whole new meaning.
--"It's Bradford Company, slash your last name, dot your first name"
"9. Custody Battle
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
Yeah, I have to admit, I got a little excited when my Suse 9 professional DVD's arrived in the mail. I just couldn't help it.
Now, can someone help me find my razor? I can't seem to see all of a sudden and it's time to shave my palms again..
"Ironic that the U.S. legal system that was founded on principles of personal responsibility now rewards immaturity and greed."
That is the chance you take when you value freedom over Iron-fisted government rule. You have to watch out for creeping bureaucracy. There are provisions to reset the whole mess, I just hope we can limp along for a few more decades before we have to remove all of the scum from power and start over.
The opposite of democracy is bureaucracy.
Darl's brother Darl will trot out the Chewbacca defense in the closing arguments,
then the IBM suits will trot out our Hero in Shining Armor's
Top 10 SCO Barbs and totally destroy the Chebacca defense.
It will be a bloodbath.
I say that they allow camera's in the court room, this will be entertainment on a stellar scale.
Focus on SCO's theft of the work of thousands of people. Use words like "theft", and "stolen". Keep mentioning that SCO did not write Linux and has only the limited rights to it given them by the General Public License. Those rights don't include converting it to a proprietary product.
What SCO is doing used to be called "conversion" in law, but is now just called theft. Conversion is the "unauthorized exercise of dominion, by one person over the property of another, in a manner inconsistent with his rights of possession." Borrowing or renting something and then reselling it is conversion.
believed that male-to-male love was the highest form of love. i don't think they were too worried about how many women were there.
I would think that a decent webcast of the court proceedings (sans nudity) would be popular in the geek community. It wouldn't make TV, but this, if it ever gets to trial, is going to be one heck of a show.
Slander is not simply something that negatively affects their reputation. The standards are different for public figures as another person said. THe truth can also not be slanderous.
The ultimate requirement however is the plaintiff must have suffered some material loss as a result of the slander. SCO only seems to be benefiting from this (less so now).
If you're new to the story, you might find these insightful..
Ya, right. Nothing SCO is neither NEWs nor insightful anymore. it's always last weeks broadcast recycled with a new twist - like reality shows (FearFactor, Survivor, etc). Same old story, same 'brave' souls, only NOW ITS IN THE AMAZON!!!
You are confusing me with someone who cares.
#1 SCO stories
Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. -- Mark Harrold
If you like Linus (or Linux) I suggest reading Just For Fun, if you haven't already.
I think I think, therefore I think I am.
... that Darl McBride is a seagull?
Infuriate left and right
Let Darl and Disney battle it out over the "IP rights" to Mine Mine Mine Mine Mine ...
Heck, throw in Microsoft Minesweeper (tm), we could have a three way battle where there is no confusion about having to choose one to root for. Just let them battle.
Infuriate left and right
I am surprised the list did not contain the quote from Linus "I allege that SCO is full of it"
My next sig will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush
That's the way the Latins did it!
Greco-Roman Wrestling!
It seems I can't see the ad you're describing.
Curse Firebird/AdBlock and my hosts file!
Every time this story comes up, I feel compelled to point out that historically, people who were on the "right" side didn't necessarily prevail over others who had more resources and money on the line.
Even though IBM is a formidible presence with plenty of resources, there are a lot of very influential, resource-rich companies whose future may depend upon the outcome of this case leaning to SCO in one form or another. Don't think we won't see a lot more counter-momentum from the Microsofts and Oracles waiting in the wings. We can't take for granted that common sense will prevail.
Continuing to poke fun at the lunacy of SCO's challenge is entertaining and helpful in endorsing the frivolity of this charge, but the tech community should also prepare for the worst and use even more of their energy to ensure that this case can be won, even under the influence of judges who may not be as objective as we hope.
Here's some linux quotes. Few of them are Linus's quotes on SCO, but SCO is mentioned quite often.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
For the slow Sunday afternoon readers, I've got a funny pic + comment on King Darl on my website here.
(Big hint, he's not signed in).
Needle Nardle Noo
Nah, he's more like the white goop that dropped from one of the seagulls onto the docks as Marlin and Dory were trying to get away from the pelican.
Just as I bought my Darl McBride quotes t-shirt!
"With the US legal system, it's always hard to tell what the hell is going to happen," Torvalds says. "So I can't just dismiss the lawsuit as the complete crapola I think it is."
Source: Wired
The Magic 8 ball can also come up 'Outlook Good' and will with about equal frequency.
Unless someone's cracked your website and changed some bits of the source code, of course...
You should add the following loop to make your function complete:
while($COURT_CASE != 'thrown_out') {
if($REQUEST['proof']) {
ignore_request();
}
}
There's one mod point well spent. That was hilarous.
Marcelo is the 2.4 tree maintainer like AC was (or still is?) the 2.2 tree maintainer. Linus turns the trees over to there maintainers once they reach a point of stability.
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I'm not convinced that lots of people are looking at where the code came from. To take FreeBSD Update as an example, I've engaged in lots of lengthy discussions about technical issues, but nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"
If they take it from one public codebase (e.g. Linux to *BSD, it'd get noticed if it was on a large scale, or a rip-off of a specific functionality. If it comes from source code you have access to through work, escrow agreements, stolen code (e.g. Doom 3) and similar, well who else could check? Only other people with the source.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise, you mostly need to trust that people have the rights to the code they show. If I gave you a book/song/video clip I said I made, you'd normally trust that too, wouldn't you? But not if I came with an entire Hollywood production, then you'd ask questions. Same with code too, if someone "dropped" large amounts of code into a codebase, questions would get asked.
Kjella
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Are you turning an optometrist?
I agree that the crest of the wave that says "Windows is the next big thing on servers" is probably close to passing, and free OSes will probably be the next big wave. However, the ad looks to be targeted at those who didn't catch the Windows wave in the first place.
...that we seem to be developing here? Linus is a smart guy, but these comments don't strike me as particularly witty (anybody can say "this person is smoking crack"), some analogies were flawed, and publicly referring to poor people exploited on TV as white trash is just arrogant.
The implication they are trying to make is that Unix and its sysadmins are obsolete washed up fuddy-duddies, and they need to migrate to Windows now before they get laid off.
They are also targeting manager types with these ads. The ads imply that their Unix guy can be coerced to help with the Windows migration by providing SFU. Eventually, as the old Unix fart retires or understands to quit, the servers will be managed 100% in the one true Windows way.
If your company is indeed migrating to Windows, and you can't influence the company enough to switch to Linux instead, I would suggets finding a better job and letting the f*ckers "make it happen" themselves. Your company doesn't deserve your help!
Save your wrists today - switch to Dvorak
It is good for people to think that way because it's true, thank you. SCO's attempted theft is outrageous. Slashdot has been good enough to point to FSF and other people who have done a nice job of destroying SCO's bogus claims.
Having a sense of humor is important too. Linus, has a reasonably good one while also having more of his property at stake than many. It's good that he's laughing off SCO's bullshit. I would not be so witty in his place.
So, what's missing? Slashdot's doing it's job, the lawyers are doing their job and Linus is doing his job. It's good to remember what's important and I doubt this Sunday afternoon's laugh is going to make anyone forget those things. All of this is going to be over when SCO fails to come up with anything in the next 30 days.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
knot holes are funny
Linus's custody battle quote really sums up the dispute well. SCO thinks they have rights to Linux becuase they see Linux as an unauthorized form of unix. They believe this even if all the Linux code was written without seeing any unix source code. Although the immediate litigation is focused on IBM, since there are contracts that may or may not have been violated by IBM (as Linus pointed out in an earlier quote), the overall war is an attempt to claim rights to Linux, and thus get paid for its use. In a free society one would think if Linux did not copy any code from unix (which is likely the case), SCO has no hold on Linux. However, the US is NOT a free society for business. There are any number of laws that limit practices of businesses, and Linux may get caught up in these laws, since busnesses are using Linux, as well as donating towards its development.
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Almost is not good enough. We know which way these guys are going to go. Once they get there, they love it. I know lots of 55+ year old people who love Linux and other free software. However, the ad looks to be targeted at those who didn't catch the Windows wave in the first place.
What windows wave? Microsoft suckered a few big dumb companies with their "standardized" platform BS, but it's hardly been an overwhelming wash out in server land. The desktop fiasco has been more than enough to squash M$'s efforts at mail serving, data warehousing, etc. at all but the most terminal companies.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
/me lights up pipe
Don't forget timezones, it's Monday here in OZ
What we have just witnessed is Open Source at work.
I think all of you should be careful. SCO will be claiming you stole the code from their own DarlBot.
In other words, it was in the law before RMS thought about it.
I guess the code really has matured and open source is taking on a whole new meaning.
Your bad. That should open sores
buddum TSSSSSH ..
I admire the consist usage of the non-alliterative form. What Ho!
I admire your always-renewed insistance on using pedantic expression on Slashdot, a well-known site for the poorly educated and the mentally disadventaged, despite the numerous, spectacular failures you seem to think of as funny posts.
In short, you're more boring than boring Boris McBored, winner of last year's Mister Boring competition.
Informed? I try.
But cheerlead?
As a long time crack smoker, I take great offensive in putting SCO
in the same league as my other crack smoking colleagues.
We may be high, but we still have standards.
/\Long live the BOFH!/\
they see Linux as an unauthorized form of unix.
It's wierd that SCO is all upset about a Unix workalike when they started their business creating a Unix workalike.
While things like NUMA might be trade secrets, the basic design of Unix, from the 1974 ACM paper by Thompson & Ritchie, through Bach's Design (which I'm reading now), Vahalia's Internals and McKusick et al.'s Design & Implementation of 4.4 BSD are methods and practices very much in the public domain of computer science. SCO can't undo what previous owners of the Unix source & design did thirty years later.
I'd pay to see Darl getting whacked over the head with a chair, though. In the case of IBM Vs SCO being Springer-like, I'd say it would probably be a heavy iron chair... possibly with sharp protrusions.
I shouldn't have to point this out (we're all programmers, right?), but = is assignment of variable, while == is test.
So in the code segment:$linuxcode is assigned to $scocode, and litigate() will always be called whether the two were equal or not. Also, the code above shows that SCO themselves distributed Linux.
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How appropriate of them to have a gull as the state bird.
Is it Utah that has a state ban on whaling, or was that Arizona?
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However he certainly doesn't have the corporate image to upkeep like Gates, Ballmer, McBride, whoever.
You're being sarcastic, right?
Some corporate image.
But you're right that those guys are very "corporate". Their antics are for money. Linus is making the world a little better.
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It is called karma whoring and trolling. I win!
1. Set up 5 accounts back in 1998 to 1999.
2. Hold long conversations with yourself
3. ????
4. Find Anonymous Cowards who know you to post feeble shit like the above.
5. Profit, er, just pass time between classes.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
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