Your Web site, http://www.zdopensource.com, advertises the event as "the only event this year that can help you to assess the real potential for Linux and other open source software as a solution for your businesses.", yet the ZDNet Web team do not seem to think that open source software is good enough for Web content creation.
When viewing the page with Netscape Communicator 4.08 on a Linux machine, I see the following text:
"Focused on the ?mainstreaming? of open source software..."
These question marks are the result of using authoring tools under Microsoft Windows, where so-called "smart quotes" are given special locations in the character set. More standards-compliant character sets do not have these proprietary extensions, and so substitute the missing symbols with question marks.
A discussion on the phenomenon can be read at http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/06/0220242.shtm l and a variety of tools for repairing the damage caused by your proprietary tools can be had at http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ .
Removing the copyright protection on Windows will have one effect: more people will use Windows and upgrade to the latest versions. It then follows that since Microsoft is the only one with any real idea of how the APIs really work, that Microsoft apps will increase their foothold. This is a non-solution. Opening the APIs on a fundamental level (read: releasing source code) is the only way for application developers to exist on anything close to the oft-mentioned "level playing field". --
Mike Maher is a frat-brat type who, during LinuxWorld, acted like a complete git and then bragged about it to the world. He published a slanderous story about a friend of mine, in which he claimed that his Red Hat business cards were getting him laid.
I'm so glad that you folks are all hashing this out here instead of subscribing to the aforementioned list. Think of all the spam that the license-discuss people don't need to deal with, now! --
I worked for Ockman in the extremely early days of Penguin. I got better.
As for the Chilean girlfriend, he mentioned her on many occasions--even wanted to set up a branch office of Penguin in Chile. This was back in the days when he wasn't paying for his colo space and was booted out of the office space he was mooching from a friend.
At the time, he also bragged to me that he had some designs on our co-worker and office manager. He made it sound as though he and Alyson had a fairly open relationship. I stayed out of it, but I feel rather sorry for all those that he is involved with. --
Penguin Computing flat out rocks. Sam Ockman's hardware/software talent was really held back at VA Research and it is really cool to see his talents put to good use at Penguin. His designs are rock solid. Oh and Sam gets jiggy with the Time Warp, too.
Time warp, eh? As in, this server announcement was meant to go out on April 1, but managed instead to go out on April 8?
I say that we all need to go have a good re-read of the penguincomputing.org web site! --
Well, this little April Fool managed to get some of the facts wrong. First off, Linus lives in Santa Clara, not LA. Trust me, Northern California is a completely different state from Southern California. --
The transcontinental telegraph put the pony express out of business.
This illustrates the latency/bandwidth issue perfectly! While folks could send out more and more ponies to increase bandwidth, the latency was still there--there was still a lower bound on the time it took to send the minimal amount of information.
The telegraph was, in comparison, hideously low-bandwidth. Most folks only got to send short messages, such as:
UPDATE: OUR PLAN HAS FAILED STOP JOHN DENVER IS NOT TRULY DEAD STOP HE LIVES ON IN HIS MUSIC STOP PLEASE ADVISE FULL STOP ...and the response... SENDING ANOTHER COMET STOP DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT GO AGAIN TO SAN DIEGO FOR HENCHMEN STOP EFFICIENCY REQUIRES ALSO MOP UP ABBA ON THIS ROUND FULL STOP
While this is useful for conveying information in a timely manner, it doesn't lend itself to the sort of epistlary communication that makes it into the anthologies.
Thus, something like a networked game requires short, low-latency packets of information to update player status and object action. Email, on the other hand, puts a certain delay on the transmission of a message, though it is equally swift with a 12-page rant as it is with a short one-liner.
One could also look at TCP and UDP as putting an emphasis on bandwidth or latency, respectively. TCP is used for sending long streams of data with error-correction and all sorts of goodies, while UDP is used for blindly tossing out quick datagrams in the hope that the lower overhead will be useful. --
I find it amusing that this article was served by an ASP. "YOUR server should run Linux!" they say. Notice that they make no claims about their own servers. --
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The point is not to have a set of Unix utils in/bin that are written in Perl. The point is to give someone some code to paste into his or her Perl program to avoid having to do things like `date` and `wc -l/foo/bar`. I for one support this effort, as my Perl programs suffer mainly from the overhead involved in using backticks. --
You could always use the upper-case "Ya" character from the Russian character set. I grew up speaking Russian as a child and always thought it was "Toys Ya Us". --
Start an event of your own. You see, we're in California, and so we started an event in California. Silly, I know, but it's easier for us to get to. There are also events in New York City, Japan, The Netherlands, France, and New Zealand. Now that isn't the whole world, but it's getting closer. If you're genuinely concerned about the lack of an event in your area, feel free to start one. --
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The motion also included a request for a "death penalty sanction" if I don't disclose my "idea" to DSC.
A similar test could be performed in the opposite direction--pit a machine with decent buffered UARTs and Windows 3.1 with an external 56k modem against a Win98 box with a WinModem. Note how slowly the machine runs while "downloading the Internet" or whatever these morons call it. Make it illegal to sell WinModems. --
Yes, as a matter of fact he did. He told me this on many occasions. Supposedly there are still Beastie Boys lyrics hidden in the comments for some of the pages. --
He wasn't slandering anyone. He just stated the fact that Sam Ockman was never a VP of VA. If anything, stating his position as an employee of VA would strengthen the validity of this assertion. Have a cookie. --
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Subject: zdopensource.com
Your Web site, http://www.zdopensource.com, advertises the event as "the only event this year that can help you to assess the real potential for Linux and other open source software as a solution for your businesses.", yet the ZDNet Web team do not seem to think that open source software is good enough for Web content creation.
When viewing the page with Netscape Communicator 4.08 on a Linux machine, I see the following text:
"Focused on the ?mainstreaming? of open source software..."
These question marks are the result of using authoring tools under Microsoft Windows, where so-called "smart quotes" are given special locations in the character set. More standards-compliant character sets do not have these proprietary extensions, and so substitute the missing symbols with question marks.
A discussion on the phenomenon can be read at http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/06/0220242.sht
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V and A were the initials of the two founders. One I have forgotten, but the A was for Larry Augustin.
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Removing the copyright protection on Windows will have one effect: more people will use Windows and upgrade to the latest versions. It then follows that since Microsoft is the only one with any real idea of how the APIs really work, that Microsoft apps will increase their foothold. This is a non-solution. Opening the APIs on a fundamental level (read: releasing source code) is the only way for application developers to exist on anything close to the oft-mentioned "level playing field".
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Mike Maher is a frat-brat type who, during LinuxWorld, acted like a complete git and then bragged about it to the world. He published a slanderous story about a friend of mine, in which he claimed that his Red Hat business cards were getting him laid.
This boy is pure sleaze.
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I'm so glad that you folks are all hashing this out here instead of subscribing to the aforementioned list. Think of all the spam that the license-discuss people don't need to deal with, now!
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I worked for Ockman in the extremely early days of Penguin. I got better.
As for the Chilean girlfriend, he mentioned her on many occasions--even wanted to set up a branch office of Penguin in Chile. This was back in the days when he wasn't paying for his colo space and was booted out of the office space he was mooching from a friend.
At the time, he also bragged to me that he had some designs on our co-worker and office manager. He made it sound as though he and Alyson had a fairly open relationship. I stayed out of it, but I feel rather sorry for all those that he is involved with.
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Time warp, eh? As in, this server announcement was meant to go out on April 1, but managed instead to go out on April 8?
I say that we all need to go have a good re-read of the penguincomputing.org web site!
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Of course, Santa Clara is a completely different beast from San Francisco.
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Well, this little April Fool managed to get some of the facts wrong. First off, Linus lives in Santa Clara, not LA. Trust me, Northern California is a completely different state from Southern California.
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This illustrates the latency/bandwidth issue perfectly! While folks could send out more and more ponies to increase bandwidth, the latency was still there--there was still a lower bound on the time it took to send the minimal amount of information.
The telegraph was, in comparison, hideously low-bandwidth. Most folks only got to send short messages, such as:
(This is an excerpt from the CrackMonkey FAQ)While this is useful for conveying information in a timely manner, it doesn't lend itself to the sort of epistlary communication that makes it into the anthologies.
Thus, something like a networked game requires short, low-latency packets of information to update player status and object action. Email, on the other hand, puts a certain delay on the transmission of a message, though it is equally swift with a 12-page rant as it is with a short one-liner.
One could also look at TCP and UDP as putting an emphasis on bandwidth or latency, respectively. TCP is used for sending long streams of data with error-correction and all sorts of goodies, while UDP is used for blindly tossing out quick datagrams in the hope that the lower overhead will be useful.
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But Al Gore did invent the Internet!
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I hereby invoke Godwin's Law. This conversation is now over. One point goes to your opponent.
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For crying out loud, isn't there a demoronizer filter in here?
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I find it amusing that this article was served by an ASP.
"YOUR server should run Linux!" they say. Notice that they make no claims about their own servers.
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The point is not to have a set of Unix utils in /bin that are written in Perl. The point is to give someone some code to paste into his or her Perl program to avoid having to do things like `date` and `wc -l /foo/bar`. I for one support this effort, as my Perl programs suffer mainly from the overhead involved in using backticks.
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You could always use the upper-case "Ya" character from the Russian character set. I grew up speaking Russian as a child and always thought it was "Toys Ya Us".
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This is the real Sam Ockman.
This is the real Todd Andersen.
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Start an event of your own. You see, we're in California, and so we started an event in California. Silly, I know, but it's easier for us to get to.
There are also events in New York City, Japan, The Netherlands, France, and New Zealand. Now that isn't the whole world, but it's getting closer.
If you're genuinely concerned about the lack of an event in your area, feel free to start one.
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A similar test could be performed in the opposite direction--pit a machine with decent buffered UARTs and Windows 3.1 with an external 56k modem against a Win98 box with a WinModem. Note how slowly the machine runs while "downloading the Internet" or whatever these morons call it. Make it illegal to sell WinModems.
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Yes, as a matter of fact he did. He told me this on many occasions. Supposedly there are still Beastie Boys lyrics hidden in the comments for some of the pages.
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He wasn't slandering anyone. He just stated the fact that Sam Ockman was never a VP of VA. If anything, stating his position as an employee of VA would strengthen the validity of this assertion.
Have a cookie.
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It's amusing to see Sam stoop to these sorts of astroturf (like grass-roots, but without real roots) tactics.
Check out the real Penguin Computing here.
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Sam Ockman is the true king of DNS administration, too!
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Maybe, but I'll bet Bruce knows how to set up DNS.
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