Those are all literally people saying things. We have no way to verify those things.
People who were there say it is so. That should be enough in the absence of evidence to the contrary. Plus, if anyone has stronger evidence, they're in no rush to prove things to you (assuming you're not a judge or arbitration expert on the case). Even if you were open minded and not throwing out evidence already, who would care to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt to some guy living in his parents' basement that it happened. There have been thousands of examples of sexism in silicon valley. You demand more evidence? Get gender reassignment surgery and go investigate for yourself.
You might inform them that Lyft is no better. The claim that democrats are just as bad as republicans some loony liberals spout makes my head hurt, but this is pretty clear: Lyft is not any better.
Also, yes, if Uber lasts more than a few weeks after this and doesn't do more shit, everyone will forget about it. It's been, what, a few hours since this guy stepped down after months of denying he's causing problems?
Dudes online have an urge to imagine we got where we are based on merit, not gender. When we hear about sexism, that challenges that just world fallacy. The standard operating procedure of dudebros to continue ignoring it is to demand evidence of each specific new accusation, ignoring all the other millions of cases. Then, when evidence is found, we say it's not good enough for the supreme court of dudes opinions online.
FFS all the adults here know silicon valley is run by frat boy types, there's ample evidence if you were paying attention even to just slashdot comments, let alone stories.
Oh boo hoo hoo, milo yogurt and ann coulter couldn't speak on a college campus because of protests. A republican student murdered another student for being black. If you're upset about liberals shutting down free speech but not the massive rise in right-wing hate crimes across the country, are you even fooling yourself? You hate liberals, you don't have a fucking reason other than they're not like you.
I mean, this is a thing that makes you breath fire like a dragon - if anyone thinks that can be good for them, they have much bigger problems than what sort of approval the government gives. This isn't ratings on car seats, where a consumer has no ability to independently verify the manufacturers' claims. This is something that obviously can't be any good for you and yet adults choose to do it anyway... leave 'em be... where's my beer?
I would argue e-cigs are not obviously unhealthy to consumers. Smokers TODAY are convinced cigs aren't unhealthy for you. e-cigs were and are specifically sold as "healthier for you." Your average consumer does not have genomic damaging testing microfluidic arrays. This is a key example of things that SHOULD be regulated so that health costs don't skyrocket.
It is noteworthy that it appears the exposure here was 5 minutes. This wouldn't exactly mimic the effects of tar residue or polonium sitting around on your lung cells for years, building up damage. Note that I have not actually read the article, just skimmed the abstract, I'm at work ATM. I have no idea if these sensors would be able to accurately test that.
I'm not sure why this is modded flamebait. For one thing, no, they're flameless. For another it's accurate. Who the fuck thought "Yeah, another delivery vehicle for the chemical that defines addiction, that's something we should allow. What? We don't know whether it's less lethal than cigarettes? I'm sure it's fine. Besides, the government needs to save it's resources to fight the evil that is marijuana."
I assume the people who made these decisions have already taken it to the bank though. It's the sucker employees and later investors who are getting the shaft for decisions they didn't make. Worth remembering that corporations aren't individuals, you can't just shrug it off saying "they reap what they sow."
The Chinese government is investing in it, we just indicated we won't be going forward. The private sector here isn't likely to seriously try to compete against the Chinese government without competitive investments from our side.
The U.S. has no energy policy and prefers free market solutions
Yes, that is the problem, you're describing again why China is going to win this one.
Thus the role of the U.S. in CO2 reduction is grossly overstated.
I think a better way to take it would be as a ceremonial kickoff to actions that WILL be detrimental. The science you mentioned is going to require government funding as an investment. That should be the US, and investing in it would secure our energy and place as a world power. Trump isn't going to do that, he's going to cut taxes to the rich. Instead? It's going to be China that is the cutting edge of green energy tech. It's going to be China that exports such green energy to third world nations to make them allies. It's going to be China that leads the world.
The EPA is also rolling back protections of any other type. Climate change is only the best publicized pollution, the stuff that receives less attention is also on the to do list.
"Make America Great Again" continues to be pretty funny.
various people got arrested for things like sneak attacks with a bike lock to the head
Again, you're complaining about trivial crimes compared to the murders and hate crimes the right is pulling. If you're going to criticize the left, where's the criticism of the far worse right?
A not inconsiderable number were fake, especially the most notorious
Are you denying that there have been an increase in right-wing hate crimes without any evidence to support that claim becasue some of them were faked?
There have been some accusations from the right wing about leftists attacking them that turned out false, so I guess we can dismiss all the claims about liberals trying to silence rightists too.
You say you want me to understand why the american left lost you, and you call yourself the american left. You give no reasons, but whine about me not being politically correct to the right wing.
So no, I don't think I need it spelled out, it is crystal clear what is going on. Remember to vote December of 2026 and good luck to you.
You should put that on t-shirts and sell it to those "Democrats" who always want to impeach presidents when the other party wins the elections...
"Always" is a disingenuous word to use here. We're in unprecedented territory here. George W Bush, the previous republican president, had pretty specific causes. Warrant-less wiretapping, the patriot act, misleading to get us into two wars... We're not talking "He gave us healthcare! THROW HIS ASS INTO JAIL!"
and who demonstrate their love of free speech by doing their best to disrupt and silence those who disagree with them.
The far left wing did shut down a few high-profile speakers at college campuses, it didn't silence them. For that to happen, Milo had to go making pedo comments. Ann Coulter is still spewing her brand of hate-speech, as is her right. The right wing is silencing people who disagree with them with violence.
Depends on who we're talking about and what they did.. If they were the people who committed "violence"* in the protests, they knew what they were doing and knew the were breaking some laws and yes should have thought of this. If it was people showing up to chant and hold signs, and the "crimes" they committed were bogus crap made up, of course they wouldn't think to use burner phones. Hopefully these are the first camp and not the second camp, but I'm not optimistic enough to believe the US government wouldn't say "You were standing next to a guy who smashed a starbucks window, five years minimum."
(* Smashing windows and setting unoccupied cars on fire is certainly criminal and awful. In this case had the black hats actually cared about any noble goals, they would have realized that damaging property undermined any message. This is exactly why "have a guy in a mask sneak into the other side and start throwing bottles" is an effective cointelpro technique. So it's bad, but you just can't convince me property damage is violence.)
With smartphones and social media to distract them are you kidding? They'd love to work in auto plants while posting selfies on twitter. Millennials would be the most contented generation ever if they had the same low-skilled, highly paid job opportunities with great benefits, cheap houses, and no student loans boomers had.
Honestly, that makes some sense. He proved that empty chest pounding buffoonery online has no real negative consequences even in terms of foreign relations. Clearly no one is going to buy AMD simply because Intel made a dumb bluff.
I assume if someone's loudly proclaiming they'll totally come at you with their super huge big spiked stick, that they in fact have a very tiny, limp noodle.*
Are intel's patents and legal team so pathetic that they need to resort to twitter-level insults?
Democrats are not the one obstructing an investigation into whether or not our government has been corrupted at the highest levels. They're awful people if you like, whatever helps you sleep at night, but they're not the topic.
We don't rule ourselves based on what the rest of the world thinks
We don't rule ourselves based on what our own citizens think either, so sure, we're not a world democracy, but we're not a democracy either. Anyway my point was universal health care is a good idea and everyone else can see it.
The US comes from a LONG individualistic culture (as opposed to Europe, etc) and tradition and many of the proposed solutions butt heads with that, hence the debate and lack of a quick solution.
Fuck culture. We come from a culture of slavery. Culture is one aspect of who we are at the moment, not a sacred tradition justifying itself in the future. Universal health care would cost less for everyone, is a good idea, and in no way erodes your individualism.
Well, the US has done a LOT to clean up its act in this area, I think it's not a bad idea to see and ensure other countries step up and do their part in a verifiable way, before we put ourselves under even more regulation/fiscal/business stress...since we are in competition economically with those other countries.
It's not a bad idea, we should sign a treaty with other countries to make sure everyone is on the same page. We could meet in Paris in 2015 to agree on such a thing. If the US senate is composed of sane people not religiously opposed to anything the president does, we could have them ratify it too. If not, well, something needs to be done, so we'll work around them. Not the best plan, but our children are counting on us and we can't straight up murder the assholes obstructing climate progress.
Frankly, until they address what is pretty much the WORST polluter for greenhouse gasses, animal food production (cow farts, etc)....I'm not putting quite all my stock in having us shut down our energy industries. Get them to address that and then I"ll pay a bit more attention, as that that is pretty much the world's largest hazard to date.
You're looking for excuses. Does energy production emit carbon? Yes. is it easier to capture carbon from smokestacks and use alternative energy sources than it is to clean up cow farts? Yes it fucking is.
I have no doubts the Russians tried to meddle, but that's an entirely different thing than one of the presidential candidates trying to collude and work with them...and there just seems to be little to no evidence of that at this time. But, with 2 congressional investigations going, if it is there, they should find it, if not...drop it and let the govt move on to do the work it was elected to do.
How on earth do you have faith that either of the GOP controlled congresses are going to investigate anything?
Waahhh, I sound crazy to someone online who can't read very well.
There's no proof, and I doubt the election was decided by the Russians. But it merits looking into in the context of Trump's shady dealings with the Russians. The fact that there's no serious investigation into Trump "because republicans?" That's a criminally dysfunctional government.
AC: "I want to choose your party's candidate!"
Party: "Are you a member of our party?"
AC: "NO, I'M INDEPDENDENT, YOU BOTH ARE EQUALLY BAD!"
Party: "Okay... well do you want to participate in the primary?"
AC: "Yes!"
Party: "Okay... so you want to join the party?"
AC: "NEVER! I HATE YOU BOTH!"
Party: "Well, you'll have to sign this paper in order to participate."
AC: "TYRANNY!!!"
FFS, why is this so hard? There's no test to registering for a party, you don't need to tell your hipster friends you sold your soul to the GOP or democrats. It's a very short form. You don't even need to put a stamp on it! And immediately after the primary, you can un-register from that party to regain your precious political independence!
My GOP congressmen have been hiding from their constituents rather than answer questions about whether or not they're going to end our healthcare because boo Obama.
If they're harassed and abused by this, cheers to that. If they are the ones abusing us via facebook now, how would I be able to tell? Zero answers on trumpcare on facebook's new thing is still the same number as we had before.
"In order to fight terrorism we will commence terrified running around and tossing away our freedom..."
“With today’s terrorism, you can’t trust anybody,” one passenger said.
I'll show that fucking unamerican asshole some terrorism. IF YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYONE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING OUT OF A FUCKING STEEL BUNKER SHOWING YOUR WORTHLESS ASSHOLE TO A REPORTER WHO MIGHT BE WITH ISIS YOU SPINELESS IGNORANT COWARDLY FUCK!?!
While I'm a strictly windows and android guy, I have to give apple some credit. Their cannot reasonably be considered to make "knock offs" given what they did with smartphones and tablets. I can't think of one of their products I'd consider "bland" objectively.
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Those are all literally people saying things. We have no way to verify those things.
People who were there say it is so. That should be enough in the absence of evidence to the contrary. Plus, if anyone has stronger evidence, they're in no rush to prove things to you (assuming you're not a judge or arbitration expert on the case). Even if you were open minded and not throwing out evidence already, who would care to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt to some guy living in his parents' basement that it happened. There have been thousands of examples of sexism in silicon valley. You demand more evidence? Get gender reassignment surgery and go investigate for yourself.
You might inform them that Lyft is no better. The claim that democrats are just as bad as republicans some loony liberals spout makes my head hurt, but this is pretty clear: Lyft is not any better.
Also, yes, if Uber lasts more than a few weeks after this and doesn't do more shit, everyone will forget about it. It's been, what, a few hours since this guy stepped down after months of denying he's causing problems?
"Regardless of evidence" such as Uber saying yes, there is sexism here, but there is everywhere else too so why not join?
Evidence like an engineer who worked there saying there was sexism?
Dudes online have an urge to imagine we got where we are based on merit, not gender. When we hear about sexism, that challenges that just world fallacy. The standard operating procedure of dudebros to continue ignoring it is to demand evidence of each specific new accusation, ignoring all the other millions of cases. Then, when evidence is found, we say it's not good enough for the supreme court of dudes opinions online.
FFS all the adults here know silicon valley is run by frat boy types, there's ample evidence if you were paying attention even to just slashdot comments, let alone stories.
Oh boo hoo hoo, milo yogurt and ann coulter couldn't speak on a college campus because of protests. A republican student murdered another student for being black. If you're upset about liberals shutting down free speech but not the massive rise in right-wing hate crimes across the country, are you even fooling yourself? You hate liberals, you don't have a fucking reason other than they're not like you.
I mean, this is a thing that makes you breath fire like a dragon - if anyone thinks that can be good for them, they have much bigger problems than what sort of approval the government gives. This isn't ratings on car seats, where a consumer has no ability to independently verify the manufacturers' claims. This is something that obviously can't be any good for you and yet adults choose to do it anyway... leave 'em be... where's my beer?
I would argue e-cigs are not obviously unhealthy to consumers. Smokers TODAY are convinced cigs aren't unhealthy for you. e-cigs were and are specifically sold as "healthier for you." Your average consumer does not have genomic damaging testing microfluidic arrays. This is a key example of things that SHOULD be regulated so that health costs don't skyrocket.
It is noteworthy that it appears the exposure here was 5 minutes. This wouldn't exactly mimic the effects of tar residue or polonium sitting around on your lung cells for years, building up damage. Note that I have not actually read the article, just skimmed the abstract, I'm at work ATM. I have no idea if these sensors would be able to accurately test that.
I'm not sure why this is modded flamebait. For one thing, no, they're flameless. For another it's accurate. Who the fuck thought "Yeah, another delivery vehicle for the chemical that defines addiction, that's something we should allow. What? We don't know whether it's less lethal than cigarettes? I'm sure it's fine. Besides, the government needs to save it's resources to fight the evil that is marijuana."
I assume the people who made these decisions have already taken it to the bank though. It's the sucker employees and later investors who are getting the shaft for decisions they didn't make. Worth remembering that corporations aren't individuals, you can't just shrug it off saying "they reap what they sow."
Why, corporations are already investing in it.
The Chinese government is investing in it, we just indicated we won't be going forward. The private sector here isn't likely to seriously try to compete against the Chinese government without competitive investments from our side.
The U.S. has no energy policy and prefers free market solutions
Yes, that is the problem, you're describing again why China is going to win this one.
Thus the role of the U.S. in CO2 reduction is grossly overstated.
We're the second biggest emitter behind China and are far worse than them in terms of per capita. We have the most fat to trim. So no, meaningful carbon reductions should absolutely fall to the US. Another reason the US is going to lose allies worldwide and China will pick them up.
Correct. This is just political mastrubation.
I think a better way to take it would be as a ceremonial kickoff to actions that WILL be detrimental. The science you mentioned is going to require government funding as an investment. That should be the US, and investing in it would secure our energy and place as a world power. Trump isn't going to do that, he's going to cut taxes to the rich. Instead? It's going to be China that is the cutting edge of green energy tech. It's going to be China that exports such green energy to third world nations to make them allies. It's going to be China that leads the world.
The EPA is also rolling back protections of any other type. Climate change is only the best publicized pollution, the stuff that receives less attention is also on the to do list.
"Make America Great Again" continues to be pretty funny.
various people got arrested for things like sneak attacks with a bike lock to the head
Again, you're complaining about trivial crimes compared to the murders and hate crimes the right is pulling. If you're going to criticize the left, where's the criticism of the far worse right?
A not inconsiderable number were fake, especially the most notorious
Are you denying that there have been an increase in right-wing hate crimes without any evidence to support that claim becasue some of them were faked?
There have been some accusations from the right wing about leftists attacking them that turned out false, so I guess we can dismiss all the claims about liberals trying to silence rightists too.
You say you want me to understand why the american left lost you, and you call yourself the american left. You give no reasons, but whine about me not being politically correct to the right wing.
So no, I don't think I need it spelled out, it is crystal clear what is going on. Remember to vote December of 2026 and good luck to you.
You should put that on t-shirts and sell it to those "Democrats" who always want to impeach presidents when the other party wins the elections...
"Always" is a disingenuous word to use here. We're in unprecedented territory here. George W Bush, the previous republican president, had pretty specific causes. Warrant-less wiretapping, the patriot act, misleading to get us into two wars... We're not talking "He gave us healthcare! THROW HIS ASS INTO JAIL!"
and who demonstrate their love of free speech by doing their best to disrupt and silence those who disagree with them.
The far left wing did shut down a few high-profile speakers at college campuses, it didn't silence them. For that to happen, Milo had to go making pedo comments. Ann Coulter is still spewing her brand of hate-speech, as is her right. The right wing is silencing people who disagree with them with violence.
Depends on who we're talking about and what they did.. If they were the people who committed "violence"* in the protests, they knew what they were doing and knew the were breaking some laws and yes should have thought of this. If it was people showing up to chant and hold signs, and the "crimes" they committed were bogus crap made up, of course they wouldn't think to use burner phones. Hopefully these are the first camp and not the second camp, but I'm not optimistic enough to believe the US government wouldn't say "You were standing next to a guy who smashed a starbucks window, five years minimum."
(* Smashing windows and setting unoccupied cars on fire is certainly criminal and awful. In this case had the black hats actually cared about any noble goals, they would have realized that damaging property undermined any message. This is exactly why "have a guy in a mask sneak into the other side and start throwing bottles" is an effective cointelpro technique. So it's bad, but you just can't convince me property damage is violence.)
You mean six months. Assuming the drug actually works that is. The delays come in proving it works.
Millennials' employment problems aren't "not having a job." They're competing with a more experienced generation that isn't retiring at the age when previous generations did, and they're competing for fewer jobs.
With smartphones and social media to distract them are you kidding? They'd love to work in auto plants while posting selfies on twitter. Millennials would be the most contented generation ever if they had the same low-skilled, highly paid job opportunities with great benefits, cheap houses, and no student loans boomers had.
Honestly, that makes some sense. He proved that empty chest pounding buffoonery online has no real negative consequences even in terms of foreign relations. Clearly no one is going to buy AMD simply because Intel made a dumb bluff.
I assume if someone's loudly proclaiming they'll totally come at you with their super huge big spiked stick, that they in fact have a very tiny, limp noodle.*
Are intel's patents and legal team so pathetic that they need to resort to twitter-level insults?
(* penis penis peeeennniiisss)
We don't rule ourselves based on what the rest of the world thinks
We don't rule ourselves based on what our own citizens think either, so sure, we're not a world democracy, but we're not a democracy either. Anyway my point was universal health care is a good idea and everyone else can see it. The US comes from a LONG individualistic culture (as opposed to Europe, etc) and tradition and many of the proposed solutions butt heads with that, hence the debate and lack of a quick solution.
Fuck culture. We come from a culture of slavery. Culture is one aspect of who we are at the moment, not a sacred tradition justifying itself in the future. Universal health care would cost less for everyone, is a good idea, and in no way erodes your individualism.
Well, the US has done a LOT to clean up its act in this area, I think it's not a bad idea to see and ensure other countries step up and do their part in a verifiable way, before we put ourselves under even more regulation/fiscal/business stress...since we are in competition economically with those other countries.
It's not a bad idea, we should sign a treaty with other countries to make sure everyone is on the same page. We could meet in Paris in 2015 to agree on such a thing. If the US senate is composed of sane people not religiously opposed to anything the president does, we could have them ratify it too. If not, well, something needs to be done, so we'll work around them. Not the best plan, but our children are counting on us and we can't straight up murder the assholes obstructing climate progress.
Frankly, until they address what is pretty much the WORST polluter for greenhouse gasses, animal food production (cow farts, etc)....I'm not putting quite all my stock in having us shut down our energy industries. Get them to address that and then I"ll pay a bit more attention, as that that is pretty much the world's largest hazard to date.
You're looking for excuses. Does energy production emit carbon? Yes. is it easier to capture carbon from smokestacks and use alternative energy sources than it is to clean up cow farts? Yes it fucking is.
I have no doubts the Russians tried to meddle, but that's an entirely different thing than one of the presidential candidates trying to collude and work with them...and there just seems to be little to no evidence of that at this time. But, with 2 congressional investigations going, if it is there, they should find it, if not...drop it and let the govt move on to do the work it was elected to do.
How on earth do you have faith that either of the GOP controlled congresses are going to investigate anything?
Waahhh, I sound crazy to someone online who can't read very well.
There's no proof, and I doubt the election was decided by the Russians. But it merits looking into in the context of Trump's shady dealings with the Russians. The fact that there's no serious investigation into Trump "because republicans?" That's a criminally dysfunctional government.
MOD PARENT UP, THE ROCK'S POLITICAL CAREER IS DOOMED BECAUSE OF PARTY REGISTRATION!
That is definitely what will keep the rock from presidency. Can you imagine if Trump had at one point registered as say a democrat?!?!
AC: "I want to choose your party's candidate!"
Party: "Are you a member of our party?"
AC: "NO, I'M INDEPDENDENT, YOU BOTH ARE EQUALLY BAD!"
Party: "Okay... well do you want to participate in the primary?"
AC: "Yes!"
Party: "Okay... so you want to join the party?"
AC: "NEVER! I HATE YOU BOTH!"
Party: "Well, you'll have to sign this paper in order to participate."
AC: "TYRANNY!!!"
FFS, why is this so hard? There's no test to registering for a party, you don't need to tell your hipster friends you sold your soul to the GOP or democrats. It's a very short form. You don't even need to put a stamp on it! And immediately after the primary, you can un-register from that party to regain your precious political independence!
My GOP congressmen have been hiding from their constituents rather than answer questions about whether or not they're going to end our healthcare because boo Obama.
If they're harassed and abused by this, cheers to that. If they are the ones abusing us via facebook now, how would I be able to tell? Zero answers on trumpcare on facebook's new thing is still the same number as we had before.
“With today’s terrorism, you can’t trust anybody,” one passenger said.
I'll show that fucking unamerican asshole some terrorism. IF YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYONE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING OUT OF A FUCKING STEEL BUNKER SHOWING YOUR WORTHLESS ASSHOLE TO A REPORTER WHO MIGHT BE WITH ISIS YOU SPINELESS IGNORANT COWARDLY FUCK!?!
While I'm a strictly windows and android guy, I have to give apple some credit. Their cannot reasonably be considered to make "knock offs" given what they did with smartphones and tablets. I can't think of one of their products I'd consider "bland" objectively.
You appear to be suffering from the Seinfeld is unfunny disease.