Could you use the optical out on a nice sound card, pipe them to the optical in and record the 'analog' stream effectively getting a perfect 'analog' burn?
Well, again I have to say that your scope is to broad,
"if I can consider myself a member of the "open source community", yet reserve the fruits of my labor for myself "
True that action is outside of the difinition I provided for communism, but that is also you acting outside of the O.S. society, so still, as far as the O.S. society is concerned, it operates according to the definition give.
I think our disconnect is that you think I'm saying all open source developers are communist, I am certainly not, what i am saying is that the Open Source movement/society operates in a communist fashion, the rest of your time can be spent repressing peasants and selling nik naks, but that doesn't change the way your involved in the O.S. society.
O.K., so you got me on the democratic republic thing, still, I do not subscribe to your definition of communism necessarily, the one I gave IS a dictionary definition communism: A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
"collective ownership of property" that sounds a lot like most of the open source licenses,
"the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members" that certainly sounds like open source developers, and "all members" does not mean everyone in the country/continent/world, it means "all members" of the society, the society in this case being the open source movement.
So, I still stand that open source meets this definition, I agree it does not meet the criteria you set out, but I think your definition is really aimed at Geovernments, not societies.
Well, wouldn't you agree that just because not everyone in America votes, it's still a democracy? I should think that just because some people in a community don't contribute (and I still think simply using the products is contributing, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a community working for the good of the community, and not necessarily direct personal gain.
Its all a bit pedantic at this level of abstraction though.
Sure, but they're probably hiding under the banner of 'were not using identities, just demographics'.
This is a very bad excuse, the demographics of where 8 year old girls are likely to be found without supervision certainly would be a bad thing, identities or not.
These corporates should stop pretending that demogrphics are innocent.
I know that shopping habits are not the same as child stalking, I'm just saying that children should be protected from demogrphic modeling.
Do you think that a site which is regularly blocked for no reason (there are many many) could potentially sue a censorware company for creating a 'barrier to entry' or some such thing?
It is equivalant to the censorware company standing outside of your door and not letting people in, especially in the context of a school or library where even though the site, and the user are participating in fair use as per guidelines, the censorware prevents the transaction.
Run on sentances are my spesh-eee-ality
That's one of the most moronic things I've ever heard 'Felling Bored'.
Child / youth demographics are key, and worth everything to advertisers? Have you ever watched television? how many of those commercials are aimed at children.
Definately represent at the next board meeting, and petitions are good as well. I'm sure the parents wouldn't like this to much, do you have a P.T.A. you can speek to?
communism:
A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
sound familiar.
hey,
"all members of society must contribute to society according to their ability to do so"
Perhaps that would be an ideal communism, also have you considered that "the vast majority of the users of Linux, Apache" who are "passive consumers" are in fact contributing to the best of there ability simply by using the product? creating a market for these products.
This is some lovely reactionary flaming your doing.
They are suggesting that Open Source is communist (which it kind of is), and we all know how much Americans hate communists, so this argument may sway minds.
America, where democracy equals facist repression of communism.
With all the hubub about my razor and toaster being on the net, why isn't hub/dhcp in the ouse the standard for discussion?
Does my toaster really need a unique I.P.?
Slashdot Mirror
Heh,
I run a 1.2 win 200 system, and mozilla loads in 3 seconds.
lamp77
I saw similar ads for planet of the apes.
Also, they work on mozilla.
That's not true,
for 4 years I've not had a home phone, I simply give my cell number in the cases you've mentioned.
>if it was just an Air-feed (ie: reg TV), then
>you can't steal it.
In the U.K. you pay a t.v. tax just to watch the Air feed progs. Violation is persecutable.
try this one
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Could you use the optical out on a nice sound card, pipe them to the optical in and record the 'analog' stream effectively getting a perfect 'analog' burn?
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
I believe mysql actually comes with myodbc drivers. pop them in and away you go.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
I agree, i think that's nonsense.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
oh well, we disagree.
/discussion
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Well, again I have to say that your scope is to broad,
"if I can consider myself a member of the "open source community", yet reserve the fruits of my labor for myself "
True that action is outside of the difinition I provided for communism, but that is also you acting outside of the O.S. society, so still, as far as the O.S. society is concerned, it operates according to the definition give.
I think our disconnect is that you think I'm saying all open source developers are communist, I am certainly not, what i am saying is that the Open Source movement/society operates in a communist fashion, the rest of your time can be spent repressing peasants and selling nik naks, but that doesn't change the way your involved in the O.S. society.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
I actually have the original, who was the singer? it was some 80's glam rock band wasn't it?
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Also, I think your farmer using linux, and giving his crops in return, is really more the cornerstone of a bartering society, not communist.
Barter is also good.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
O.K., so you got me on the democratic republic thing, still, I do not subscribe to your definition of communism necessarily, the one I gave IS a dictionary definition
communism: A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
"collective ownership of property" that sounds a lot like most of the open source licenses,
"the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members" that certainly sounds like open source developers, and "all members" does not mean everyone in the country/continent/world, it means "all members" of the society, the society in this case being the open source movement.
So, I still stand that open source meets this definition, I agree it does not meet the criteria you set out, but I think your definition is really aimed at Geovernments, not societies.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Well, wouldn't you agree that just because not everyone in America votes, it's still a democracy? I should think that just because some people in a community don't contribute (and I still think simply using the products is contributing, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a community working for the good of the community, and not necessarily direct personal gain.
Its all a bit pedantic at this level of abstraction though.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
uh, that's the way upc codes currently work big guy.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Sure, but they're probably hiding under the banner of 'were not using identities, just demographics'.
This is a very bad excuse, the demographics of where 8 year old girls are likely to be found without supervision certainly would be a bad thing, identities or not.
These corporates should stop pretending that demogrphics are innocent.
I know that shopping habits are not the same as child stalking, I'm just saying that children should be protected from demogrphic modeling.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Do you think that a site which is regularly blocked for no reason (there are many many) could potentially sue a censorware company for creating a 'barrier to entry' or some such thing? It is equivalant to the censorware company standing outside of your door and not letting people in, especially in the context of a school or library where even though the site, and the user are participating in fair use as per guidelines, the censorware prevents the transaction. Run on sentances are my spesh-eee-ality
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
That's one of the most moronic things I've ever heard 'Felling Bored'. Child / youth demographics are key, and worth everything to advertisers? Have you ever watched television? how many of those commercials are aimed at children.
Definately represent at the next board meeting, and petitions are good as well. I'm sure the parents wouldn't like this to much, do you have a P.T.A. you can speek to?
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
communism: A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members. sound familiar.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
hey, "all members of society must contribute to society according to their ability to do so" Perhaps that would be an ideal communism, also have you considered that "the vast majority of the users of Linux, Apache" who are "passive consumers" are in fact contributing to the best of there ability simply by using the product? creating a market for these products. This is some lovely reactionary flaming your doing.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
They are suggesting that Open Source is communist (which it kind of is), and we all know how much Americans hate communists, so this argument may sway minds. America, where democracy equals facist repression of communism.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
Wins out again over best intentions I guess. I may get it however.
"Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people."
On my system, I see mozilla sitting at 24 mg. and IE at ~10 mg. displaying the same page. Quite a difference.
With all the hubub about my razor and toaster being on the net, why isn't hub/dhcp in the ouse the standard for discussion? Does my toaster really need a unique I.P.?
They didn't stand a chance, ODBC errors all over the place. Smoked