It wouldn't make sense for them not to...Remote Desktop is a perfect way to deal with any must-be-local issues. I assume that all server management programs can be run remotely, since they ran a server manager that identified all locally-running Xserves.
Probably something similar to their old Mac Manager Server.
And telnet's disabled by default, you have to ssh in:P
At the risk of a "me too" post, I heartily agree with your idea of putting signs in Latin as well. Whoever is around at that time might still have access to some of the same historical works we have today and might have already done the same end-work necessary to understand them that we did.
Sounds interesting... and certain sounds like an idea that I recall being explored by some SF short-stories I read when I was young....
The establishment of a cult of protectors makes a lot of sense... there's the serious possibility of even our best efforts to make a warning trans-societally effective failing. One way to prevent that is to establish a group charged with updating/maintaining those warnings in a manner adaptable to the culture/surroundings at the time.
The Seldon Plan could't predict everything... hence Hari established the Second Foundation.
Anyone have a link to more information about this?
Oh yeah... it's a far, far better thing for the radiaton containers to leak and POLLUTE THE OCEANS than have it cause another 100ft of radioactivity in a barren desert without a water table.
A very good system IMO which allowed one to link to a specific version of an article, and allowed the reader to see the progress and revisions of a story if they were smart enough to notice the numbers at the top. As long as their internal database stayed up to date, the front page always linked to the latest version.
During and after 9/11, articles were updated so frequently that the major stories (on all news sites) became "newest information" pages rather than articles per-se. Since then, I've noticed hardly any articles posted using the old systems, with revisions now being made in place.
CNN please bring back the old method! It made sense and was a fair method of dealing with this issue!
Hey, any additional fodder for my efforts to convince my boss to move over to completely open-source technologies is fine with me! It's really heartening to hear a company like IBM say that though. More reinforcement that this paradigm is here to stay, and isn't just some sort of post-modern fad.
Actually, that's probably the only thing on the site that's true. The first Apple I *did* in fact sell for $666. In the early days, the Steves had quite a sense of humor. Did you know also that Apple was incorporated on April 1?
"At it's "heart" Slashdot may be free, but they live in a world of non-free bandwidth."
You mean in the same way labour is non-free for software corporations?
No, i mean "in a world of non-free bandwidth charges". They have to pay someone for the bandwidth they're using. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, but this has nothing to do with IP issues.
I think one of the main things that attracts people to slashdot is that it is not commercial and there is a sense of community (a very twisted one at that). Slashdot is a great FREE site and thats as far as it goes. I wish you guys all the success but I really don't think it will make much money. Slashdot is never consistent (which is a terrible business model) , so how can you expect to make a business out of it? Business involves planning and consistency. I for one don't want to pay for a service that at is heart is free and should always be free.
At it's "heart" Slashdot may be free, but they live in a world of non-free bandwidth.
Think of it this way: The Church is not supposed to be worldly, but the priest still has to go to VONS for food, the janitor has to live somewhere, and the church must still (sometimes) pay rent on the land the church is on. Yes a Church shouldn't have to deal with prosaic issues like that, they do. Therefore, it's important that the community is willing to pay their tithing when the plate goes around.
It'd be great if they didn't have to pay bandwidth fees because they're a "free-at-heart public open source discussion forum" or something, but they do.
So click an ad or fork over $5 - don't just pass the plate every week.
A Portuguese academic has some rather interesting (and exhaustively researched) ideas on Atlantis, stating basically that the legends of Atlantis actually refer to the large area south of China, west of India, and near Indonisia which would have been an above-water continent during the last Ice Age. (There's a nice map available here. I wonder how close this is to the recent discovery?
Maybe you feel that is is because you physically hold the paper, but all your "intuitive" responses to paper (screwing it up, writing on it, passing it to someone) are all learned.
I would disagree with that... Man has been painting and marking on flat surfaces for tens of thousands of years. Even the dumbest of chimps will tend to make marks on paper if given a crayon, a blank sheet, and some free time.
All primates will pass things from entity to entity. Hell, even my cats pass playthings to each other.
At least some of this must be inate for homo sapiens at this point.
I should add to this that the need to sit down at a computer and instantly know where everything is/should be is more a function of "mass management" than anything else.
Standardization is good for the IT worker who has to "manage" 300 machines, but it's bad (because it doesn't promote individual - custom - work organization) for the person who actually uses the machine.
Unix was designed around the "big server, small user" metaphor. Personal computers that didn't come out of IBM and MS were designed around the "single machine, single user" concept where the user is supposed to have FULL control of the machine.
As another aside, I've known people whose (virtual) desktops were disaster areas, but they could find anything they needed WITHOUT using Sherlock or the Find command. Why? Because a) they put the documents there, and b) the documetns they didn't put there were easily identifiable and few in number.
a) speaks to why forcing a user to pur their documents in "My Documents" or their home directory is a Bad Thing, and/usr/bin/,/sbin,/etc... is the bane of Unix, and b) speaks to why Windows, with it's 1000's of files in the c:\winnt\ directory named like license plates, is no better for the user. Try poking around in a Mac OS 9 Extensions folder for example. Everything is clearly labelled and self-evident in purpose, even in the heyday of the 7.5 System Folder bloat.
The point of all this? I don't know.. I felt like ranting. But shouldn't the user be the master of the computer, and not the other way around?
If I recall, one of the various user interface paradigms Apple was working on in the 80's-90's (circa Taligent and Pink) was an interface specifically called "Piles" based on some of this research.
While that never saw the light of day, the lessons learned from that research made their way into the Standard Macintosh bibles of user interface design. To wit:
"Users can make messes, Applications aren't allowed to." - Inside Macintosh VI
This is, IMHO, one reason why the classic Mac OS interface was so amazing. You (the user) had complete freedom in organizing the documents on your computer however you wished. Spacially, color-based, or sorted. You could store your documents in whatever made sense to you, without the operating system declaring the Right Place for documents (ie, home directory, etc.. a la Windows and Unix).
Some people's Macs made sense only to their user, which is just how it should be - considering that it's a PC.. a PERSONAL COMPUTER.
Now with Apple moving to unix underpinnings which, thanks to the rigidness and inflexibility built into unix, don't allow for this type of "personal organization", it's difficult to find a system design that understands this.
This is the NUMBER ONE problem "old-school" Mac OS users have with Mac OS X - being told that they have to organize things in a certain way (ie, "in your home directory") and the thing that people coming to Mac OS X from a standard unix background don't (can't) understand.
I don't feel like pouring through all the trolls to see if anyone posted this linke earlier, but here's the proper link for the US Government Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS)
I seem to recall reading somewhere that back in 1997 Disney was seriously looking at doing the first season of Sailor Moon as a live action movie. In fact, they'd even gone so far as to involve Geena Davis as a potential Queen Beryl (or was it that she had proposed it -- i don't remember).
Anyone have any info on why that failed? Or how it might relate to/be affected by this?
(Honestly, I've never *ever* realized exactly why DBZ is so popular. From what I've heard you either "get" this series or you don't. I guess I don't.)
Rather than having "horton-101-sd-ca-wd.domain.com", or worse yet: "hort101sdca.domain.com" it might be simpler to use the DNS heirarchy more completely.
Hostname "horton-101.sd.ca.domain.com" Especially for really large organizations geographically separated, or if you've got lots of separate clusters. Why dirty up your main address space when you can use "redhat01.cluster-12.domain.com"
At our ISP we've recently started rebuilding all of our servers. As we go, we're renaming them to character names from BSSM (Japanese vers. of Sailor Moon ) like: "makoto" or "usagi.XXXXX.com". Should be good for a while.:)
In general, a genre of science fiction would tend to work, as scifi stories tend to have large numbers of "named things" in them for some reason. (Just thing of all the planets mentioned at some point in the Foundation series).
Famous literature is a good source as well. How about cluster of Caddy, Benjy, Jason, and Quentin? We'll be naming the "important boxes", ie a primary name server, after the author, with the backup or subsidary boxes named after characters in books they've written. It's a pretty easy method to come up with new names, and if you're an IB student you'll have no problem recognizing what cluster a specific machine belongs to:)
Quite frankly, the few of his own reports he does post nowadays are right far more often than they're wrong. A typical pattern is that he posts a quick paragraph or two about something, then a few days later he'll link to some story in the Washington Post about it saying the exact same thing.
One of the best things he does nowadays is simply scan the foreign or lesser-known news wires or services for interesting or important stories that haven't broken in the US yet.
"Breaking News" on CNN.com is a joke, especially since the pink slips in their internet department. If you want to know what's breaking *now*, visit Drudge. There's a reason the site gets 40 hits/second.
I agree that Apple needs to focus it's attention on the Consumer Portable. If they pull this off effectively, it will be a MAJOR cash cow and publicity gernerator for them (bigger than the iMac). If they stumble, it could prove to be a big embarrassment. Apple is right for focusing on the up-and-coming school season portable instead of the Palm-deal.
As much as I really wish they'd come out with a Newton replacement soon...
AppleScript is really the best of both worlds here. It is a command line interface to a purely graphical environment. Remember that Windows and UNIX are at their base, CLI's with a GUI spattered ontop of it. The Mac OS is pure GUI. There's no "native" or "underneath" CLI to work on. If you want one, you have to make it yourself, and it runs On TOP of the GUI.
That does't mean that CLI's ontop of GUI's aren't useful... I spend the better part of my day using AppleScript to create turnkey systems for the computer lab I work for... it's great. Of course, this is purely proprietary to the Mac OS, and it requires significant effort by the 3rd party Mac programmers to make their programs "scriptable". but there's a tremendous pay off.
Proprietyary schemes show that a CLI interface ontop of a GUI *can* make sense, but I wouldn't trust MS would an Open Source one.
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It wouldn't make sense for them not to...Remote Desktop is a perfect way to deal with any must-be-local issues. I assume that all server management programs can be run remotely, since they ran a server manager that identified all locally-running Xserves.
Probably something similar to their old Mac Manager Server.
And telnet's disabled by default, you have to ssh in
At the risk of a "me too" post, I heartily agree with your idea of putting signs in Latin as well. Whoever is around at that time might still have access to some of the same historical works we have today and might have already done the same end-work necessary to understand them that we did.
Plus it's just cool =)
Sounds interesting... and certain sounds like an idea that I recall being explored by some SF short-stories I read when I was young....
The establishment of a cult of protectors makes a lot of sense... there's the serious possibility of
even our best efforts to make a warning trans-societally effective failing. One way to prevent that is to establish a group charged with updating/maintaining those warnings in a manner adaptable to the culture/surroundings at the time.
The Seldon Plan could't predict everything... hence Hari established the Second Foundation.
Anyone have a link to more information about this?
Oh yeah... it's a far, far better thing for the radiaton containers to leak and POLLUTE THE OCEANS than have it cause another 100ft of radioactivity in a barren desert without a water table.
Prior to the immediately-updating news requirements caused by the 9/11 attacks, CNN had a very reasonable method for dealing with this.
The initial story created had an URL like http://www.cnn.com/2000/books/news/07/07/harrypot
A very good system IMO which allowed one to link to a specific version of an article, and allowed the reader to see the progress and revisions of a story if they were smart enough to notice the numbers at the top. As long as their internal database stayed up to date, the front page always linked to the latest version.
During and after 9/11, articles were updated so frequently that the major stories (on all news sites) became "newest information" pages rather than articles per-se. Since then, I've noticed hardly any articles posted using the old systems, with revisions now being made in place.
CNN please bring back the old method! It made sense and was a fair method of dealing with this issue!
I really like the closing quote from the article:
Hey, any additional fodder for my efforts to convince my boss to move over to completely open-source technologies is fine with me! It's really heartening to hear a company like IBM say that though. More reinforcement that this paradigm is here to stay, and isn't just some sort of post-modern fad.
Actually, that's probably the only thing on the site that's true. The first Apple I *did* in fact sell for $666. In the early days, the Steves had quite a sense of humor. Did you know also that Apple was incorporated on April 1?
Consider this line changed to:
So click an ad and honestly evaluate the product, or fork over $5 - don't just pass the plate every week.
=)
"At it's "heart" Slashdot may be free, but they live in a world of non-free bandwidth."
You mean in the same way labour is non-free for software corporations?
No, i mean "in a world of non-free bandwidth charges". They have to pay someone for the bandwidth they're using. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, but this has nothing to do with IP issues.
I think one of the main things that attracts people to slashdot is that it is not commercial and there is a sense of community (a very twisted one at that). Slashdot is a great FREE site and thats as far as it goes. I wish you guys all the success but I really don't think it will make much money. Slashdot is never consistent (which is a terrible business model) , so how can you expect to make a business out of it? Business involves planning and consistency. I for one don't want to pay for a service that at is heart is free and should always be free.
At it's "heart" Slashdot may be free, but they live in a world of non-free bandwidth.
Think of it this way: The Church is not supposed to be worldly, but the priest still has to go to VONS for food, the janitor has to live somewhere, and the church must still (sometimes) pay rent on the land the church is on. Yes a Church shouldn't have to deal with prosaic issues like that, they do. Therefore, it's important that the community is willing to pay their tithing when the plate goes around.
It'd be great if they didn't have to pay bandwidth fees because they're a "free-at-heart public open source discussion forum" or something, but they do.
So click an ad or fork over $5 - don't just pass the plate every week.
Now how can you honestly say D.I.Y. is dead when young boy scouts are still doing things like this for their badges =)
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/n1782_v297
(on a serious note, I agree with the article - and it's a very sad trend to see happen)
A Portuguese academic has some rather interesting (and exhaustively researched) ideas on Atlantis, stating basically that the legends of Atlantis actually refer to the large area south of China, west of India, and near Indonisia which would have been an above-water continent during the last Ice Age. (There's a nice map available here. I wonder how close this is to the recent discovery?
The site overall is worth a look at http://www.atlan.org/
It's nice to see some of this guy's theories get validated! =)
No... tell us how you really feel
I would disagree with that... Man has been painting and marking on flat surfaces for tens of thousands of years. Even the dumbest of chimps will tend to make marks on paper if given a crayon, a blank sheet, and some free time.
All primates will pass things from entity to entity. Hell, even my cats pass playthings to each other.
At least some of this must be inate for homo sapiens at this point.
I should add to this that the need to sit down at a computer and instantly know where everything is/should be is more a function of "mass management" than anything else.
Standardization is good for the IT worker who has to "manage" 300 machines, but it's bad (because it doesn't promote individual - custom - work organization) for the person who actually uses the machine.
Unix was designed around the "big server, small user" metaphor. Personal computers that didn't come out of IBM and MS were designed around the "single machine, single user" concept where the user is supposed to have FULL control of the machine.
As another aside, I've known people whose (virtual) desktops were disaster areas, but they could find anything they needed WITHOUT using Sherlock or the Find command. Why? Because a) they put the documents there, and b) the documetns they didn't put there were easily identifiable and few in number.
a) speaks to why forcing a user to pur their documents in "My Documents" or their home directory is a Bad Thing, and
b) speaks to why Windows, with it's 1000's of files in the c:\winnt\ directory named like license plates, is no better for the user. Try poking around in a Mac OS 9 Extensions folder for example. Everything is clearly labelled and self-evident in purpose, even in the heyday of the 7.5 System Folder bloat.
The point of all this? I don't know.. I felt like ranting. But shouldn't the user be the master of the computer, and not the other way around?
If I recall, one of the various user interface paradigms Apple was working on in the 80's-90's (circa Taligent and Pink) was an interface specifically called "Piles" based on some of this research.
While that never saw the light of day, the lessons learned from that research made their way into the Standard Macintosh bibles of user interface design. To wit:
This is, IMHO, one reason why the classic Mac OS interface was so amazing. You (the user) had complete freedom in organizing the documents on your computer however you wished. Spacially, color-based, or sorted. You could store your documents in whatever made sense to you, without the operating system declaring the Right Place for documents (ie, home directory, etc.. a la Windows and Unix).
Some people's Macs made sense only to their user, which is just how it should be - considering that it's a PC
Now with Apple moving to unix underpinnings which, thanks to the rigidness and inflexibility built into unix, don't allow for this type of "personal organization", it's difficult to find a system design that understands this.
This is the NUMBER ONE problem "old-school" Mac OS users have with Mac OS X - being told that they have to organize things in a certain way (ie, "in your home directory") and the thing that people coming to Mac OS X from a standard unix background don't (can't) understand.
I don't feel like pouring through all the trolls to see if anyone posted this linke earlier, but here's the proper link for the US Government Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS)
http://gets.ncs.gov/
I seem to recall reading somewhere that back in 1997 Disney was seriously looking at doing the first season of Sailor Moon as a live action movie. In fact, they'd even gone so far as to involve Geena Davis as a potential Queen Beryl (or was it that she had proposed it -- i don't remember).
Anyone have any info on why that failed? Or how it might relate to/be affected by this?
(Honestly, I've never *ever* realized exactly why DBZ is so popular. From what I've heard you either "get" this series or you don't. I guess I don't.)
Rather than having "horton-101-sd-ca-wd.domain.com", or worse yet: "hort101sdca.domain.com" it might be simpler to use the DNS heirarchy more completely.
Hostname "horton-101.sd.ca.domain.com" Especially for really large organizations geographically separated, or if you've got lots of separate clusters. Why dirty up your main address space when you can use "redhat01.cluster-12.domain.com"
and "Just think of all the planets..."
"preview" is a good thing
At our ISP we've recently started rebuilding all of our servers. As we go, we're renaming them to character names from BSSM (Japanese vers. of Sailor Moon ) like: "makoto" or "usagi.XXXXX.com". Should be good for a while. :)
:)
In general, a genre of science fiction would tend to work, as scifi stories tend to have large numbers of "named things" in them for some reason. (Just thing of all the planets mentioned at some point in the Foundation series).
Famous literature is a good source as well. How about cluster of Caddy, Benjy, Jason, and Quentin? We'll be naming the "important boxes", ie a primary name server, after the author, with the backup or subsidary boxes named after characters in books they've written. It's a pretty easy method to come up with new names, and if you're an IB student you'll have no problem recognizing what cluster a specific machine belongs to
Quite frankly, the few of his own reports he does post nowadays are right far more often than they're wrong. A typical pattern is that he posts a quick paragraph or two about something, then a few days later he'll link to some story in the Washington Post about it saying the exact same thing.
One of the best things he does nowadays is simply scan the foreign or lesser-known news wires or services for interesting or important stories that haven't broken in the US yet.
"Breaking News" on CNN.com is a joke, especially since the pink slips in their internet department. If you want to know what's breaking *now*, visit Drudge. There's a reason the site gets 40 hits/second.
I agree that Apple needs to focus it's attention on the Consumer Portable. If they pull this off effectively, it will be a MAJOR cash cow and publicity gernerator for them (bigger than the iMac). If they stumble, it could prove to be a big embarrassment. Apple is right for focusing on the up-and-coming school season portable instead of the Palm-deal.
As much as I really wish they'd come out with a Newton replacement soon...
Great video... but Wierd Al looks so *wierd* without his "trademark" glasses and frazzled hair...
AppleScript is really the best of both worlds here. It is a command line interface to a purely graphical environment. Remember that Windows and UNIX are at their base, CLI's with a GUI spattered ontop of it. The Mac OS is pure GUI. There's no "native" or "underneath" CLI to work on. If you want one, you have to make it yourself, and it runs On TOP of the GUI.
That does't mean that CLI's ontop of GUI's aren't useful... I spend the better part of my day using AppleScript to create turnkey systems for the computer lab I work for... it's great. Of course, this is purely proprietary to the Mac OS, and it requires significant effort by the 3rd party Mac programmers to make their programs "scriptable". but there's a tremendous pay off.
Proprietyary schemes show that a CLI interface ontop of a GUI *can* make sense, but I wouldn't trust MS would an Open Source one.