Remember, it isn't socialism if the money is taken to the poor and given to the rich.
It's only "bad" when it happens the other way around. I mean, surely the poor don't need the money, since they are used to having none. The rich in contrast have amply proven their unbounded need for more money, so it is only logical that the government should strive to give them as much moolah as possible (e.g. bailouts, income tax cuts, state tax cuts, capital gains tax cuts, oil exploration subsidies, free land for mining within federal parks, etc.)
There were equally convincing arguments when we chose seven digit phone numbers, 16 digit account numbers, and 32 bit IP numbers.
Yet we ended up running of each one of those. The reason why is that once an identifier succeeds, its use gets extended beyond its original purpose. For example, phone numbers were supposed to be one per household, yet my household with only two adults has seven phone numbers attached to it.
I'm so glad they made the ID a fixed length 16-digit number. Experience shows that we are very good at predicting the total number of IDs ever to be needed.
Plus 54 bits should be more than enough, so no need to make the number extensible, thus wasting one precious bit as a field extension identifier.
Last two girlfriends, one a total geek, the other a more standard technophobe had pink high in their list of requirements for a laptop. Of course the geeky one wants a fast pink computer that can run Mint off the shelf, while the technophobe one is just happy letting me choose.
I don't know about laptops, but for dell desktops we have bought consumer and business oriented desktops and the business models last about twice as long as the cheaper consumer lines. YMMV, ASDA, etc.
But the could structure the deal differently. A basic fee of say $20 a month and then a minor fee of $0.50-$1 per GB. It would take a lot of downloading to reach an exorbitant charge.
to take issue with Fox, which is no more ore less biased than msnbc, et al...
Sorry, but Fox is the only news organization that has explicitly told its reporters that it is ok to lie.
This "everyone does it" business is just not true anymore. It used to be, but for the last decade or so Republicans and their supporters have taken the lead in uncivil discourse.
and western culture seems to revel in tearing down anyone successful for the most pety things
nah, this is just an affectation from people on the left.
Red necks compare the size of their gun collections, holier-than-thou leftists compare the size of their outrage to minor social transgressions, as in:
- What, you used the word "seminal"? aren't you aware of its 5th century B.C. possibly sexist origins?? Shame on you!
- Oh yeah? Well I think he should resign.
- Well, I think he should resign _and_ all his writings should be expunged from the historical record.
You might be right. However, I looked for previous change pages on the web site, but couldn't find them.
That's a simple statement of fact,
If you had better examples you should have sent them. Don't blame me for your crappy examples.
that doesn't change the fact that their measurements are crude
That has never been in discussion. We all agree that the signal is crappy. My only objection was with the statement that was "absolutely meaningless".
The other problems, which you haven't addressed are:...
It's pretty much the other way around. You need to argue why those changes are significant enough to matter. It's not like search engines one day give one count of popularity and the next a completely different one. So why should we believe that regular maintenance would radically change the results, particularly in ways that affect the ranking?
Maybe you don't see it because you've got blinders on?
Or maybe that is an irrelevant fine tuning of the method in regards to other languages.
I'm not interested in arguing with people that won't admit the most basic errors in their positions.
Lower your caffeine intake dude. I was ready to admit an error when I went to look at the changes pages, thinking I would see major shifting in methodology. Instead I saw one rather irrelevant change for an aberrant language (in terms of name) called Go.
You give bad evidence, I won't change my mind, you give good evidence and I change my mind.
TIOBE rankings can go through wild swings from month to month as they change their methodologies.
It is my understanding that they simply search for "X programming" for all X values in the set of programming languages. Thus the self-consistency claim. You are saying that they change that?
It's akin to placing a single temperature sensor near the AC in a huge warehouse
Excellent example. When you see the sensor suddenly go down, this means the AC just went on, hence the warehouse was hot. On the other hand when you see the sensor start going up, this means the AC just switched off, which means it just finished cooling. So there you go, I just showed you how it indeed reflects the temperature of the warehouse, but through an inverse and intermittent relation.
In other words - if they were checking 20 other search terms, such as 'foo development, 'foo developers', 'foo language', etc. - and averaging them out - then maybe it has some sort of a meaning.
No it actually wouldn't, unless you have a reason to believe that Java programmers would type Java programming more frequently that Lisp programmers would type Lisp programming.
And even then we could still recover a signal from the measurement. Say, for the sake of the argument Lisp programmers are 10x less likely to type "Lisp programming" than Java programmers. Still an increase in the number of such queries reflects an increase in the interest in Lisp.
It is clear you have no experience extracting information from noisy sources, and you confuse your inability to do such an extraction with an absence of information on the source itself.
The way it is now, I stand by my comment that it's absolutely meaningless.
I didn't expect otherwise. The way you wrote your hyperbole in all caps suggests that you are the type of person who lets their emotions override their rational thoughts.
You overplayed your hand. Had you said "not very meaningfull", you would have been right, but you went for hyperbole and end up being wrong. Even a noisy signal carries quite a bit of information.
For one, since the methodology is self-consistent, a change in relative position even in this flawed ranking is with very high probability paralleled by a move (though not necessarily a swap) in the actual ranking in the actual index with the proper absolute rankings.
By the way, around here, at a puerly anecdotical level, we've seen a raise in interest on C/C++ and a relative drop on Java.
Also, B12 production does not necessarily require animal protein. If that was the case, herbivores would be screwed.
This is a specious argument. Herbivores are equipped with a completely different digestive system. For example, they can thrive on grass whereas we humans can't.
So no problems there. Just make sure your diet has some fortified foods (get some vitamin D as well to be on the safe side) and you're done.
Which is exactly what I said. A vegan diet is deficient on certain nutrients and thus needs to be supplemented.
I'm quoting the paper from the ADA which states there is a documented B12 deficiency in vegans.
It's from bacteria.
From bacteria in the gut that process ingested animal protein.
Really though, a veg*n diet can be bad or good.
Not when it comes to B12. This is a scientific fact proven in numerous studies, hence the universal recommendation that vegans take supplements. Ever heard of Veg-1? This is a suplement created by vegans for vegans.
There have been many studies on this, and outside of a few well known programs, they are most definitely not profit centers. Even according to the NCAA own figures
Less than 7 percent of Division I athletics programs had positive net revenue between 2004 and 2010. In the Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), only 22 of 120 schools showed positive net revenue for the 2010 fiscal year, eight more than in 2009.
For FBS schools, the median [subsidy] amount was $9.8 million in 2010
From the American Dietetic Association position paper on the subject where vegan diets are considered appropriate:
However, vegans and some other vegetarians may have lower intakes of vitamin B-12, calcium, vitamin D, zinc, and long-chain n-3 fatty acids.
Oh, oh. A vegan diet has a hard time fulfilling the above dietetic requirements. But not to worry. If you eat all day non-stop you can make up for that:
Research indicates that an assortment of plant foods eaten over the course of a day can provide all essential amino acids and ensure adequate nitrogen retention and use in healthy adults; thus, complementary proteins do not need to be consumed at the same meal (8).
How about other components such as EPA and DHA which are important for cardiovascular health as well as eye and brain development. Surely vegans are fine since the ADA says those diets are "appropriate"
Vegetarians, and particularly vegans, tend to have lower blood levels of EPA and DHA than nonvegetarians (15). DHA supplements derived from microalgae are well absorbed and positively influence blood levels of DHA, and also EPA through retroconversion (16).
Oops. The ADA suggestion is that you take supplements in the form of fortified soy milk..
How about B12? According to the ADA. the very "appropriate" vegan diet just cannot give you enough B12:
For vegans, vitamin B-12 must be obtained from regular use of vitamin B-12-fortified foods.
So the diet is appropriate so long as you take supplements to make up for its inappropriateness. Ok, got it.
Sorry but a correlation of 0.4 cannot be called "very weak". Clearly brain size is not the dominant factor, but a correlation of 0.4 suggest brain size is definitely a factor, though not a determinant one.
His simplistic view of abortion which equates a four celled zygote with a human being.
His simplistic (and sociopathic) proposal of letting uninsured sick people die, all the while proclaiming the "sanctity of life" in his abortion platform.
Providing tax credits and deductions for all medical expenses, which is what has lead to the most expensive health care system in the world (we pay about twice as much for equivalent level of care).
Vetoing any unbalanced budget Congress sends to his desk. It is perfectly ok to go into debt for investment and long term purposes. At a personal level we call it student loans and mortgages. It would stupid to ban this and it is stupid to ban government debt.
Return to the gold standard which is the singular largest cause of the decline of the British empire.
Opposing all unfunded mandates and unnecessary regulations on small businesses and entrepreneurs. Such as for example, the fact that you must provide fire sprinklers, or heck, even toilets in your work place. It is a mandate and it is unfunded.
Proposing the removal of the Fed without detailing what will replace it, which judging from other countries would likely be the same institution but now 100% government owned. But wait, wasn't he in favor of market solutions to begin with?
Proposing the abolition of the welfare state as a solution to the immigration problem. Hasn't he noticed that immigrants come to America by far mostly for the promise of work even if it means the worst occupations at the lowest salaries and not because of welfare?
Recent immigrants do tend to collect school lunches for their kids and other such income based subsidies for the first portion of their stay here, since they tend to arrive with nothing but their shirt on their back. Two decades after they arrive their poverty rates are the same as those for the general population.
You get the picture. Almost all of his proposals are simplistic and wrong.
If you're looking for a pacifist to take the presidency, then you're shit out of luck.
I am not. I don't know about you but I don't want a bleeding heart coward in the White House calling Hillary at 3am in the morning in a panic. I want a commander in chief who can pick and choose wars according to moral reasoning and strategic considerations.
Actually it is. Just read what happened to SeaLand when you remove the threat of a law imposing democratically elected government.
I'm not saying the government is perfect, or the solution to every problem. I am saying that certain things can only be done by a government, such as law enforcement, education and defense.
It has been extensively proven that these cannot be provided bu the free market. Whenever governments disappear you end up with situations like Somalia, Afghanistan or the Middle Ages in Europe: essentially a Mad Max world.
Right, because is not like he promised during the elections that we would be out... oh wait he did.
OFA prevented the Iraqi government from local prosecution of US troops for crimes committed in Iraq.
That only determined the size of a leftover contingent. Had the US deemed it necessary to stay in Iraq we had the firepower to replace the present government with one that allowed us to stay.
Do you remember Manuel Noriega of Panama? He "booted" US troops from the Panama Canal. How did that work out for him?
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Remember, it isn't socialism if the money is taken to the poor and given to the rich.
It's only "bad" when it happens the other way around. I mean, surely the poor don't need the money, since they are used to having none. The rich in contrast have amply proven their unbounded need for more money, so it is only logical that the government should strive to give them as much moolah as possible (e.g. bailouts, income tax cuts, state tax cuts, capital gains tax cuts, oil exploration subsidies, free land for mining within federal parks, etc.)
There were equally convincing arguments when we chose seven digit phone numbers, 16 digit account numbers, and 32 bit IP numbers.
Yet we ended up running of each one of those. The reason why is that once an identifier succeeds, its use gets extended beyond its original purpose. For example, phone numbers were supposed to be one per household, yet my household with only two adults has seven phone numbers attached to it.
I'm so glad they made the ID a fixed length 16-digit number. Experience shows that we are very good at predicting the total number of IDs ever to be needed.
Plus 54 bits should be more than enough, so no need to make the number extensible, thus wasting one precious bit as a field extension identifier.
Last two girlfriends, one a total geek, the other a more standard technophobe had pink high in their list of requirements for a laptop. Of course the geeky one wants a fast pink computer that can run Mint off the shelf, while the technophobe one is just happy letting me choose.
I don't know about laptops, but for dell desktops we have bought consumer and business oriented desktops and the business models last about twice as long as the cheaper consumer lines. YMMV, ASDA, etc.
But the could structure the deal differently. A basic fee of say $20 a month and then a minor fee of $0.50-$1 per GB. It would take a lot of downloading to reach an exorbitant charge.
to take issue with Fox, which is no more ore less biased than msnbc, et al...
Sorry, but Fox is the only news organization that has explicitly told its reporters that it is ok to lie.
This "everyone does it" business is just not true anymore. It used to be, but for the last decade or so Republicans and their supporters have taken the lead in uncivil discourse.
and western culture seems to revel in tearing down anyone successful for the most pety things
nah, this is just an affectation from people on the left.
Red necks compare the size of their gun collections, holier-than-thou leftists compare the size of their outrage to minor social transgressions, as in:
- What, you used the word "seminal"? aren't you aware of its 5th century B.C. possibly sexist origins?? Shame on you!
- Oh yeah? Well I think he should resign.
- Well, I think he should resign _and_ all his writings should be expunged from the historical record.
They routinely go beyond that,
You might be right. However, I looked for previous change pages on the web site, but couldn't find them.
That's a simple statement of fact,
If you had better examples you should have sent them. Don't blame me for your crappy examples.
that doesn't change the fact that their measurements are crude
That has never been in discussion. We all agree that the signal is crappy. My only objection was with the statement that was "absolutely meaningless".
The other problems, which you haven't addressed are:...
It's pretty much the other way around. You need to argue why those changes are significant enough to matter. It's not like search engines one day give one count of popularity and the next a completely different one. So why should we believe that regular maintenance would radically change the results, particularly in ways that affect the ranking?
Maybe you don't see it because you've got blinders on?
Or maybe that is an irrelevant fine tuning of the method in regards to other languages.
I'm not interested in arguing with people that won't admit the most basic errors in their positions.
Lower your caffeine intake dude. I was ready to admit an error when I went to look at the changes pages, thinking I would see major shifting in methodology. Instead I saw one rather irrelevant change for an aberrant language (in terms of name) called Go.
You give bad evidence, I won't change my mind, you give good evidence and I change my mind.
This Month's Changes in the Index This month the following changes have been made to the definition of the index:
TIOBE rankings can go through wild swings from month to month as they change their methodologies.
It is my understanding that they simply search for "X programming" for all X values in the set of programming languages. Thus the self-consistency claim. You are saying that they change that?
It's akin to placing a single temperature sensor near the AC in a huge warehouse
Excellent example. When you see the sensor suddenly go down, this means the AC just went on, hence the warehouse was hot. On the other hand when you see the sensor start going up, this means the AC just switched off, which means it just finished cooling. So there you go, I just showed you how it indeed reflects the temperature of the warehouse, but through an inverse and intermittent relation.
In other words - if they were checking 20 other search terms, such as 'foo development, 'foo developers', 'foo language', etc. - and averaging them out - then maybe it has some sort of a meaning.
No it actually wouldn't, unless you have a reason to believe that Java programmers would type Java programming more frequently that Lisp programmers would type Lisp programming.
And even then we could still recover a signal from the measurement. Say, for the sake of the argument Lisp programmers are 10x less likely to type "Lisp programming" than Java programmers. Still an increase in the number of such queries reflects an increase in the interest in Lisp.
It is clear you have no experience extracting information from noisy sources, and you confuse your inability to do such an extraction with an absence of information on the source itself.
The way it is now, I stand by my comment that it's absolutely meaningless.
I didn't expect otherwise. The way you wrote your hyperbole in all caps suggests that you are the type of person who lets their emotions override their rational thoughts.
ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS
You overplayed your hand. Had you said "not very meaningfull", you would have been right, but you went for hyperbole and end up being wrong. Even a noisy signal carries quite a bit of information.
For one, since the methodology is self-consistent, a change in relative position even in this flawed ranking is with very high probability paralleled by a move (though not necessarily a swap) in the actual ranking in the actual index with the proper absolute rankings.
By the way, around here, at a puerly anecdotical level, we've seen a raise in interest on C/C++ and a relative drop on Java.
Also, B12 production does not necessarily require animal protein. If that was the case, herbivores would be screwed.
This is a specious argument. Herbivores are equipped with a completely different digestive system. For example, they can thrive on grass whereas we humans can't.
So no problems there. Just make sure your diet has some fortified foods (get some vitamin D as well to be on the safe side) and you're done.
Which is exactly what I said. A vegan diet is deficient on certain nutrients and thus needs to be supplemented.
You may want to check the original source of B12.
I'm quoting the paper from the ADA which states there is a documented B12 deficiency in vegans.
It's from bacteria.
From bacteria in the gut that process ingested animal protein.
Really though, a veg*n diet can be bad or good.
Not when it comes to B12. This is a scientific fact proven in numerous studies, hence the universal recommendation that vegans take supplements. Ever heard of Veg-1? This is a suplement created by vegans for vegans.
Even there it isn't. Surprisingly enough, the entire athletic department operates at a net loss.
There have been many studies on this, and outside of a few well known programs, they are most definitely not profit centers. Even according to the NCAA own figures
Less than 7 percent of Division I athletics programs had positive net revenue between 2004 and 2010. In the Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), only 22 of 120 schools showed positive net revenue for the 2010 fiscal year, eight more than in 2009.
For FBS schools, the median [subsidy] amount was $9.8 million in 2010
From the American Dietetic Association position paper on the subject where vegan diets are considered appropriate:
However, vegans and some other vegetarians may have lower intakes of vitamin B-12, calcium, vitamin D, zinc, and long-chain n-3 fatty acids.
Oh, oh. A vegan diet has a hard time fulfilling the above dietetic requirements. But not to worry. If you eat all day non-stop you can make up for that:
Research indicates that an assortment of plant foods eaten over the course of a day can provide all essential amino acids and ensure adequate nitrogen retention and use in healthy adults; thus, complementary proteins do not need to be consumed at the same meal (8).
How about other components such as EPA and DHA which are important for cardiovascular health as well as eye and brain development. Surely vegans are fine since the ADA says those diets are "appropriate"
Vegetarians, and particularly vegans, tend to have lower blood levels of EPA and DHA than nonvegetarians (15). DHA supplements derived from microalgae are well absorbed and positively influence blood levels of DHA, and also EPA through retroconversion (16).
Oops. The ADA suggestion is that you take supplements in the form of fortified soy milk..
How about B12? According to the ADA. the very "appropriate" vegan diet just cannot give you enough B12:
For vegans, vitamin B-12 must be obtained from regular use of vitamin B-12-fortified foods.
So the diet is appropriate so long as you take supplements to make up for its inappropriateness. Ok, got it.
MRI show very weak correlation (R-squared ~ 0.4)
Sorry but a correlation of 0.4 cannot be called "very weak". Clearly brain size is not the dominant factor, but a correlation of 0.4 suggest brain size is definitely a factor, though not a determinant one.
What "simplistic solutions"?
Recent immigrants do tend to collect school lunches for their kids and other such income based subsidies for the first portion of their stay here, since they tend to arrive with nothing but their shirt on their back. Two decades after they arrive their poverty rates are the same as those for the general population.
You get the picture. Almost all of his proposals are simplistic and wrong.
If you're looking for a pacifist to take the presidency, then you're shit out of luck.
I am not. I don't know about you but I don't want a bleeding heart coward in the White House calling Hillary at 3am in the morning in a panic. I want a commander in chief who can pick and choose wars according to moral reasoning and strategic considerations.
"Let the government do it" is so much more deep.
Actually it is. Just read what happened to SeaLand when you remove the threat of a law imposing democratically elected government.
I'm not saying the government is perfect, or the solution to every problem. I am saying that certain things can only be done by a government, such as law enforcement, education and defense.
It has been extensively proven that these cannot be provided bu the free market. Whenever governments disappear you end up with situations like Somalia, Afghanistan or the Middle Ages in Europe: essentially a Mad Max world.
Obama did not leave, Obama got booted.
Right, because is not like he promised during the elections that we would be out... oh wait he did.
OFA prevented the Iraqi government from local prosecution of US troops for crimes committed in Iraq.
That only determined the size of a leftover contingent. Had the US deemed it necessary to stay in Iraq we had the firepower to replace the present government with one that allowed us to stay.
Do you remember Manuel Noriega of Panama? He "booted" US troops from the Panama Canal. How did that work out for him?
If you cannot see the flaw in Ron Paul's simplistic solutions I don't know what to say.
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. ---Henry Louis Mencken