This came up on the linux-kernel mailing list two years ago during a thread on TCP MD5 stuff to avoid this very problem. Why is it just now making a splash?
Wow, I never thought a kernel hacker would have that much intimate knowledge of how BGP works. I was already a big fan of Alan Cox, but my appreciation of him has grown slightly by reading this (prescient) email.
Without this, it's trivial to exploit, in fact we already have source code provided by the NCISS. Input a few IPs and BGP's TCP port number, and wham you take down a peering session.
Thanks for the info. I still debate the validity of the whole "trivial to exploit" argument. Any CCIE worth his salt is already using loopback interfaces for their peering session and performing proper ingress/egress filtering, especially on the peering interface.
Yeah. The biggest problem here is the ease with which one could DoS the BGP-4 protocol.
Actually, if any backbone providers are getting a BGP feed and not doing any type of ingress/egress filtering they are asshats and deserve to be knocked offline, if only so that their Cisco engineers can be fired and they can get some compentent help to fix the problem.
Really, this issue is not going to take the internet backbone down. Most of the major backbone providers are smart enough to know that you don't just accept BGP traffic on any interface that claims to be from the IP address of your peer.
But Apple is a bunch cut-throat-DMCA-loving-money-grabbing capitalists like Microsoft, just without the monopoly, and Steve Jobs eats his chocolate one bite at a time, just like everyone else.
You know, if you really want people to take your comments seriously, you might cut out the anti-corporate, anti-capitalist rhetoric. Just because Apple makes a profit doesn't make them an "evil company". You know, Steve Jobs has to put food on the table too, and I happen to think that Apple makes the world a slightly better place by taking some of my computing headaches away.
Ever notice how the same posters that make anti-capitalist comments are always the ones bitching about lack of Ogg support in $VENDOR product? I think it's a communist conspiracy to replace all of our "encumbered" formats with a more communist friendly and free format like Ogg.:-) Tongue firmly in cheek, but it does seem a strange coincidence.
There seem to be two camps of people here: Those that appreciate the shuffle, and those that would rather listen to full albums the way they were recorded. I myself firmly fall into both camps. A lot of music that I like nowadays can be shuffled quite easily, and it doesn't lose much of it's meaning. On the other hand, there are a lot of albums that are definitely designed to be listened to in sequence. Some of the first CDs I ever listened to were like this: Pink Floyd - The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon. Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses. Definitely mix CDs where a DJ is beatmatching music should not be shuffled.
Well, the iPod and iTunes can shuffle individual songs, and complete albums. I found it useful to put mine on the Album shuffle, that way I still hear every album all the way through, in the order it was intended, but I also hear random albums, so I get a chance to hear music I haven't listened to in a while.
Strictly speaking, a shuffle play shouldn't be random. Like a dealing from a shuffled deck of cards, once it's played one song, it shouldn't play that one again until it's finished them all and reshuffles.
I dunno what kind of MP3 or CD players you are using, but I've never seen one that was truly random. They all shuffle. Wouldn't you be annoyed if you put your CD player on shuffle/random and it played the same song twice in a row?
Although your reply is quite eloquent, you fail to prove that the system of life is somehow outputting more energy than it receives. In all cases, there is some external energy source, (aka the Sun) which is feeding energy into a somewhat efficient closed-loop system. The external source implies that there is no such thing as "zero-point" energy.
I think what you're trying to say is "you can always borrow energy from future potential energy", but that still doesn't negate the first law of thermodynamics. You will never be able to reach 100% or greater energy output in any given system.
Man! Who are they stealing credit cards from, Bill Gates?
What kind of credit card has a multi-million dollar credit limit?
Actually, I'm just guessing, but I bet they would have used one of those phony cashier's checks for a purchase that large. No credit card company would accept a $1.6 million charge without making a few phone calls to verify things first.
Sniffing/Injecting drugs bad. Smoking pot and drinking beer good.
That's pretty much my philosophy. I don't really count weed or beer as drugs simply because they are made from plants and aren't over-processed. Other drugs like coke, heroin, and meth, even though they're derived from plants originally (coca, opium, and mau huang, respectively) are over-processed to the point where there are really only a few chemicals left.
I agree with you on the point that most people I know that use needles were already pretty messed up and just "graduated" to it. I think there are some statistics out there that show that intraveneous drug users are less likely to quit or more likely to relapse.
I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.
Damn! I thought watching Cartman dressed up as Britney Spears dancing with a cardboard cutout of Justin Timberlake last night was about the funniest thing I've ever seen.
As a non-drug user, how exactly does one have sex with coke? Or is there another definition for banging that proves how little I know?
In this context "banging" means "to inject intravenously". It's just street slang for using needles.
As far as the grandparent post is concerned:
There is a good reason why most people that do drugs don't use needles. If you want to get immediately addicted and not be able to quit, go right ahead. Other methods have a much lower absorbtion rate, so you won't get nearly as messed up. There is also something about using needles that tends to increase the addiction factor for most people. I know because I've had a few friends that did drugs intravenously and they were totally unable to quit. We used to have this saying that we stole from a Pringle's commercial, and it seemed to apply really well:
"Once you pop, you just can't stop."
As always, YMMV, but I highly recommend staying away from needles. Better yet, just stay away from drugs period.
Turn them into digital picture frames. This gentleman turned his PowerBook 100 into a Digital Picture Frame for relatively little cost. If I had a leftover PowerBook that would be one of my first projects.
This law implies that everything is a zero-sum game. If it was literally true (and not only for select systems) it would imply that life is a zero-sum game - whatever you gain must be torn from something else and in the end everything turns to dust. The very inevitable bleakness of such conclusion suggests there is a flaw in the argument (as most science is usually neutral whenever emotions are concerned).
Are you arguing against the First Law of Thermodynamics? You've got to be crazy. Show me one case where the rule doesn't apply, and don't say "sentience", because we all know that the brain burns energy. The brain actually uses about 25% of your body's total energy output.
I think you misunderstand the purpose of a Resolution. A Resolution is not legally binding in any way. It is simply a means for them to express an opinion as a whole -- a kind of "open letter", if you will, expressing the point of view of the majority of the legislative body.
Thanks for the clarification. That certainly makes more sense, but they are still asshats for wasting taxpayer money and time needlessly.
It IS the stifling of free speech, both directly and by intimidation. Moreover, it is wrong. Morally and legally.
I agree with you 100% that it is morally reprehensible that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon have been denied work because of their political views. When I was growing up my parents used to tell me "see how nice it is that we live in America and can say anything we want to without fear of retribution?" Well, it just isn't true folks.
The problem is: There's nothing illegal about it. The Baseball HoF is not a government institution, and thus, is not bound by the constitution. While it may be morally reprehensible to politicize baseball in this way, there's nothing illegal about what he did.
The South Carolina House of Representatives Again, they may have been wrong, but they didn't inhibit anyone's right to free speech.
The other two complaints aside, the SC HoR most definitely deserved the reward. They committed one of the most blatantly offensive acts by not only censuring the Dixie Chicks for expressing a constitutionally protected political viewpoint, but actually caused financial harm to the Dixie Chicks by forcing them to perform a concert for the US armed forces at no charge.
From the article: Just one week after Maines' statement, South Carolina State Representative Catherine Ceips introduced a House Resolution calling upon the Dixie Chicks to publicly apologize for the statement and perform a free concert for American troops stationed in South Carolina when the group began a tour in Greenville, South Carolina on May 1st. The Resolution called the comments "unpatriotic," "unnecessary," and "anti-American." The measure passed the House on a 50-35 vote.
Just how exactly is using government authority to financially harm individuals that engage in "unpatriotic" but constitutionally protected speech not deserving?
IMO, they are one of the most deserving recipients of the award.
The only party I thought was not deserving of the award was the Arizona State License Commission, who denied a pro-life group who wanted to make a specialty license plate that read "Choose Life". The reason why they are undeserving of this reward is that government has the ability to supress a religious or moral point of view if the message might be perceived as being government sponsored.
If I were driving behind a car with a license plate that said "Choose Life - Arizona", I most certainly would believe that the message was government sponsored and would be offended that my tax dollars were paying to propogate a special interest's moral and religious beliefs. Therefore the Arizona State License Commission was in their rights to ban the offending plates.
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Sun has recently started using Blue LEDs to represent another condition: Safe to remove/unplug.
This is highly useful in situations where a system board needs to be removed while the system is in operation. Dynamic Reconfiguration allows you to map out the system board that is in use, and the blue LED on the system board lights to let you know that it has been powered down and is safe to remove.
I'm all for using blue LEDs to represent a different type of status than standard (green-power, yellow-attention, red-emergency), just please don't use them for power indicators... annoying.
It is difficult for me to believe that S&P would cut someone's rating to junk status if they had that kind of money lying around.
I think S&P bases their credit ratings more on stock performance than actual data. If you check around, you'll see that Sun has quite a healthy chunk of cash on hand that they saved from the internet bubble buying frenzy of the late 90's.
Sun had $5B in the bank before this deal. They won't be out of business that soon. The reason why Sun isn't two worried about it's low stock price is that they still have large cash reserves and can stay afloat for a while.
My Godly self wants porn out of my face because my sinful self does want it.
It sounds like you've got some personal problems if you feel that you can't control yourself and that the temptation of seeing Janet Jackson's exposed breast is going to influence you to sin.
When will Christianity realize that the human body (created in the image of God, according to the Bible) is a beautiful thing, not to be hid, but appreciated for it's beauty. When will Christianity admit that the sex act is a profoundly beautiful experience and is something to be shared with others in this world, not repressed.
It is this basic "hate your sinning self because you were born in sin" philosophy that offends me the most about Christianity. Would any just and benevolent God tell his "children" that their bodies which he created were evil and should be hidden behind layers of clothing at all times? The logical fallacy of trying to do "good acts" with an "evil body" just blows my mind. It reminds me of Galileo being censured by the Vatican and forced to admit that the universe revolves around the earth.
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This came up on the linux-kernel mailing list two years ago during a thread on TCP MD5 stuff to avoid this very problem. Why is it just now making a splash?
Wow, I never thought a kernel hacker would have that much intimate knowledge of how BGP works. I was already a big fan of Alan Cox, but my appreciation of him has grown slightly by reading this (prescient) email.
Without this, it's trivial to exploit, in fact we already have source code provided by the NCISS. Input a few IPs and BGP's TCP port number, and wham you take down a peering session.
Thanks for the info. I still debate the validity of the whole "trivial to exploit" argument. Any CCIE worth his salt is already using loopback interfaces for their peering session and performing proper ingress/egress filtering, especially on the peering interface.
And what's ICMP, chopped liver?
ICMP is a UDP based protocol.
Yeah. The biggest problem here is the ease with which one could DoS the BGP-4 protocol.
Actually, if any backbone providers are getting a BGP feed and not doing any type of ingress/egress filtering they are asshats and deserve to be knocked offline, if only so that their Cisco engineers can be fired and they can get some compentent help to fix the problem.
Really, this issue is not going to take the internet backbone down. Most of the major backbone providers are smart enough to know that you don't just accept BGP traffic on any interface that claims to be from the IP address of your peer.
One password to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them!
Well, yes. But you have to pass it through a couple of filters, auto-pitch-tune it and slap a barely dressed teenager into a film clip.
/dev/random | less | more | /usr/bin/pitch-tune | /bin/daemon/brittney > cdrecord /dev/scd0
bigboss@riaastudio$ cat
Aahh... that would explain the complete crap that we're hearing on the radio today. It's all generated by a shell script.
But Apple is a bunch cut-throat-DMCA-loving-money-grabbing capitalists like Microsoft, just without the monopoly, and Steve Jobs eats his chocolate one bite at a time, just like everyone else.
:-) Tongue firmly in cheek, but it does seem a strange coincidence.
You know, if you really want people to take your comments seriously, you might cut out the anti-corporate, anti-capitalist rhetoric. Just because Apple makes a profit doesn't make them an "evil company". You know, Steve Jobs has to put food on the table too, and I happen to think that Apple makes the world a slightly better place by taking some of my computing headaches away.
Ever notice how the same posters that make anti-capitalist comments are always the ones bitching about lack of Ogg support in $VENDOR product? I think it's a communist conspiracy to replace all of our "encumbered" formats with a more communist friendly and free format like Ogg.
There seem to be two camps of people here: Those that appreciate the shuffle, and those that would rather listen to full albums the way they were recorded. I myself firmly fall into both camps. A lot of music that I like nowadays can be shuffled quite easily, and it doesn't lose much of it's meaning. On the other hand, there are a lot of albums that are definitely designed to be listened to in sequence. Some of the first CDs I ever listened to were like this: Pink Floyd - The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon. Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses. Definitely mix CDs where a DJ is beatmatching music should not be shuffled.
Well, the iPod and iTunes can shuffle individual songs, and complete albums. I found it useful to put mine on the Album shuffle, that way I still hear every album all the way through, in the order it was intended, but I also hear random albums, so I get a chance to hear music I haven't listened to in a while.
Strictly speaking, a shuffle play shouldn't be random. Like a dealing from a shuffled deck of cards, once it's played one song, it shouldn't play that one again until it's finished them all and reshuffles.
I dunno what kind of MP3 or CD players you are using, but I've never seen one that was truly random. They all shuffle. Wouldn't you be annoyed if you put your CD player on shuffle/random and it played the same song twice in a row?
Although your reply is quite eloquent, you fail to prove that the system of life is somehow outputting more energy than it receives. In all cases, there is some external energy source, (aka the Sun) which is feeding energy into a somewhat efficient closed-loop system. The external source implies that there is no such thing as "zero-point" energy.
I think what you're trying to say is "you can always borrow energy from future potential energy", but that still doesn't negate the first law of thermodynamics. You will never be able to reach 100% or greater energy output in any given system.
Man! Who are they stealing credit cards from, Bill Gates?
What kind of credit card has a multi-million dollar credit limit?
Actually, I'm just guessing, but I bet they would have used one of those phony cashier's checks for a purchase that large. No credit card company would accept a $1.6 million charge without making a few phone calls to verify things first.
Sniffing/Injecting drugs bad. Smoking pot and drinking beer good.
That's pretty much my philosophy. I don't really count weed or beer as drugs simply because they are made from plants and aren't over-processed. Other drugs like coke, heroin, and meth, even though they're derived from plants originally (coca, opium, and mau huang, respectively) are over-processed to the point where there are really only a few chemicals left.
I agree with you on the point that most people I know that use needles were already pretty messed up and just "graduated" to it. I think there are some statistics out there that show that intraveneous drug users are less likely to quit or more likely to relapse.
For those who don't know, Family Guy will be back early next year for a fourth series.
Fourth series? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Family Guy has only had two seasons, and the first one was only a partial season (not a full 24 episodes).
I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.
Damn! I thought watching Cartman dressed up as Britney Spears dancing with a cardboard cutout of Justin Timberlake last night was about the funniest thing I've ever seen.
As a non-drug user, how exactly does one have sex with coke? Or is there another definition for banging that proves how little I know?
In this context "banging" means "to inject intravenously". It's just street slang for using needles.
As far as the grandparent post is concerned:
There is a good reason why most people that do drugs don't use needles. If you want to get immediately addicted and not be able to quit, go right ahead. Other methods have a much lower absorbtion rate, so you won't get nearly as messed up. There is also something about using needles that tends to increase the addiction factor for most people. I know because I've had a few friends that did drugs intravenously and they were totally unable to quit. We used to have this saying that we stole from a Pringle's commercial, and it seemed to apply really well:
"Once you pop, you just can't stop."
As always, YMMV, but I highly recommend staying away from needles. Better yet, just stay away from drugs period.
I have a bunch of PowerBook 170's and 180's...
Turn them into digital picture frames. This gentleman turned his PowerBook 100 into a Digital Picture Frame for relatively little cost. If I had a leftover PowerBook that would be one of my first projects.
This law implies that everything is a zero-sum game. If it was literally true (and not only for select systems) it would imply that life is a zero-sum game - whatever you gain must be torn from something else and in the end everything turns to dust. The very inevitable bleakness of such conclusion suggests there is a flaw in the argument (as most science is usually neutral whenever emotions are concerned).
Are you arguing against the First Law of Thermodynamics? You've got to be crazy. Show me one case where the rule doesn't apply, and don't say "sentience", because we all know that the brain burns energy. The brain actually uses about 25% of your body's total energy output.
I think you misunderstand the purpose of a Resolution. A Resolution is not legally binding in any way. It is simply a means for them to express an opinion as a whole -- a kind of "open letter", if you will, expressing the point of view of the majority of the legislative body.
Thanks for the clarification. That certainly makes more sense, but they are still asshats for wasting taxpayer money and time needlessly.
It IS the stifling of free speech, both directly and by intimidation. Moreover, it is wrong. Morally and legally.
I agree with you 100% that it is morally reprehensible that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon have been denied work because of their political views. When I was growing up my parents used to tell me "see how nice it is that we live in America and can say anything we want to without fear of retribution?" Well, it just isn't true folks.
The problem is: There's nothing illegal about it. The Baseball HoF is not a government institution, and thus, is not bound by the constitution. While it may be morally reprehensible to politicize baseball in this way, there's nothing illegal about what he did.
He's still an asshat.
The South Carolina House of Representatives Again, they may have been wrong, but they didn't inhibit anyone's right to free speech.
The other two complaints aside, the SC HoR most definitely deserved the reward. They committed one of the most blatantly offensive acts by not only censuring the Dixie Chicks for expressing a constitutionally protected political viewpoint, but actually caused financial harm to the Dixie Chicks by forcing them to perform a concert for the US armed forces at no charge.
From the article: Just one week after Maines' statement, South Carolina State Representative Catherine Ceips introduced a House Resolution calling upon the Dixie Chicks to publicly apologize for the statement and perform a free concert for American troops stationed in South Carolina when the group began a tour in Greenville, South Carolina on May 1st. The Resolution called the comments "unpatriotic," "unnecessary," and "anti-American." The measure passed the House on a 50-35 vote.
Just how exactly is using government authority to financially harm individuals that engage in "unpatriotic" but constitutionally protected speech not deserving?
IMO, they are one of the most deserving recipients of the award.
The only party I thought was not deserving of the award was the Arizona State License Commission, who denied a pro-life group who wanted to make a specialty license plate that read "Choose Life". The reason why they are undeserving of this reward is that government has the ability to supress a religious or moral point of view if the message might be perceived as being government sponsored.
If I were driving behind a car with a license plate that said "Choose Life - Arizona", I most certainly would believe that the message was government sponsored and would be offended that my tax dollars were paying to propogate a special interest's moral and religious beliefs. Therefore the Arizona State License Commission was in their rights to ban the offending plates.
Sun has recently started using Blue LEDs to represent another condition: Safe to remove/unplug.
This is highly useful in situations where a system board needs to be removed while the system is in operation. Dynamic Reconfiguration allows you to map out the system board that is in use, and the blue LED on the system board lights to let you know that it has been powered down and is safe to remove.
I'm all for using blue LEDs to represent a different type of status than standard (green-power, yellow-attention, red-emergency), just please don't use them for power indicators... annoying.
It is difficult for me to believe that S&P would cut someone's rating to junk status if they had that kind of money lying around.
I think S&P bases their credit ratings more on stock performance than actual data. If you check around, you'll see that Sun has quite a healthy chunk of cash on hand that they saved from the internet bubble buying frenzy of the late 90's.
Sun had $5B in the bank before this deal. They won't be out of business that soon. The reason why Sun isn't two worried about it's low stock price is that they still have large cash reserves and can stay afloat for a while.
Parent obviously didn't bother to RTFA because Schwarz is talking about selling software, not hardware, at Walmart.
My Godly self wants porn out of my face because my sinful self does want it.
It sounds like you've got some personal problems if you feel that you can't control yourself and that the temptation of seeing Janet Jackson's exposed breast is going to influence you to sin.
When will Christianity realize that the human body (created in the image of God, according to the Bible) is a beautiful thing, not to be hid, but appreciated for it's beauty. When will Christianity admit that the sex act is a profoundly beautiful experience and is something to be shared with others in this world, not repressed.
It is this basic "hate your sinning self because you were born in sin" philosophy that offends me the most about Christianity. Would any just and benevolent God tell his "children" that their bodies which he created were evil and should be hidden behind layers of clothing at all times? The logical fallacy of trying to do "good acts" with an "evil body" just blows my mind. It reminds me of Galileo being censured by the Vatican and forced to admit that the universe revolves around the earth.