"...there was in fact Russian interference." That's like saying a butterfly flapping its wings in Spain contributed to Hurricane Harvey. Thirteen wage slaves working in a Russian troll farm is cause for the ongoing hysteria and circus? If so, this country is totally screwed.
A picture-based system is only as strong as the protection of its cipher, which can be compromised in its storage medium (i.e., somewhere, somehow there's a key saying "dog" equals "bomb"). With OpenML, which is meant to be a turnkey solution for mitigating complexity, the cipher is the hidden layers. The interesting aspect here is that the state of the art in AI can't fully explain how those hidden layers arrive at their probabilistic results. Hence a potentially strong system.
Admittedly, this concern may be a bridge too far even for the tinfoil hat crowd. But...
If I were a bad guy, knew that intelligence agencies have compromised electronics down to the firmware and hardware levels and needed to securely communicate with other bad guys, then I'd develop image + label data to train Google's service to spit out plaintext results from certain image sets. My compatriots would run images of dogs, cats, etc. through OpenML and receive labels like "Bomb" "Building" "Corner" "Columbus" "Central Park".
Good luck to the good guys when trying to pick up such e-mail traffic.
I now realize I wasn't explicit enough, as i thought this has become common knowledge: tech companies abuse the H1-B program to illegally import not high skill talent but low wage talent. All done under a very official, government sanctioned program..
My cynicism meter went to 11 when I saw a headline about large tech companies banding together ostensibly for the benefit of illeg... errr, "Dreamers".
My first reaction was, "How do they benefit financially with the status quo?" But then I realized this question is of secondary significance. The primary question is, "How does this help distract from the importing of illegal labor via H1-B's?" And then pieces fell into place.
I wonder whether a hundred years from now people will be shaking their heads and saying, "I can't believe people were allowed to go into space without active shielding from ionizing radiation."...kind of like we shake our heads today after reading about how people worked with microwaves in the 40's and 50's or with x-rays half a century prior to that.
Absent a fundamental breakthrough in propulsion technology (i.e., really energy generation tech), shielding spacecraft with 3 cm to 5 cm layers of lead, thorium, etc. seems impractical if getting from Point A to Point B within a reasonable amount of time is a desired outcome. We'll have to develop active shielding tech that mitigates exposure not only to photons in the x-ray and gamma ray range but also relativistic sub-atomic particles. Not easy.
What follows assumes a B2B or B2D (D = developer, which is a unique creature in its own right) product.
Host a multi-tiered version of your open source software. The value add for which people will pay is twofold: 1. The stack from infrastructure to business software is taken care of and presumably "just works"; 2. The subject matter expertise required for accommodating advanced or nuanced use cases.
Tier A = Free, Tier B = $[x] per month, Tier C = $[y] per month and so forth.
There are so many variables that go into determining comp packages... performance reviews and aggregate internal statistics (e.g., male vs. female comp) are easily discoverable, but they are just two data points among many. For example, I read an article written by a female television news reporter who discussed her first job out of college. She discovered that her male peer with same credentials, role, etc. was making a few thousand dollar more per year. She opted to ask her boss about the discrepancy, and her boss told her that her peer received more "because he asked."
I found just that one anecdote so revealing about the myriad factors that go into pay decisions.
I would have thought Silicon Valley would have supported this proposal. More (legal) high-skilled domestic labor means downward pressure on wages.
What exactly are tech leaders railing against?? Higher wages in the future for their gardeners and nannies?
I love the optimism and derring-do. But I suspect Elon and his minions have zero experience with East Coast public works unions. Didn't NYC recently open a new subway station that took something like 20 years and a trillion dollars to finish (I exaggerate only slightly)?
Anyone other than me believe that Apple, Samsung et al. (at a minimum) didn't look the other way before the Wikileaks dump? The OS-level issues really were unknowns for a long enough time that the CIA and other agencies could develop and deploy a playbook for hacking high value targets? What about the other elephant in the room... firmware?
What's wrong with socialism? Really? How's this for an answer: decades of empirical evidence. Take a trip to Venezuela for a glimpse of socialism's end state.
Exclude the well-intentioned people in the Socialist Republic of California and your popular vote comment goes out the window. Thank God for the electoral college.
Aye, this is a valid point that people here have overlooked or are blissfully unaware of.
Perhaps drinking a bit of seawater tainted with ingredients from Fukushima may be orders of magnitude less harmful radiation-wise than eating a banana (when measured across, say, one day), but if the human body cannot excrete the ingredients, then the human body is up the creek without a paddle.
Check out Section 1.4 in this write-up about the body's ability to process and excrete cesium: https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/...
So. In a nutshell: if something like cesium 137 accumulates and accumulates in your body over time, then even minute doses can become problematic for your longevity. For whatever it's worth, I've been laying off sushi since 2010.
This request is almost certainly being driven by the legal mechanics in Verizon's acquisition of Yahoo. The deal is in rough shape because of the security breach revelation, and Yahoo's bankers and lawyers likely want to go back to VZ with tangible evidence of nothing-to-see-here-folks.
I feel like this is a seance with Hugo Chavez's ghost. Check out current conditions in Venezuela to see how "investments in society" are panning out. We have decades of empirical evidence proving that promises of free sht always, always, always end up in tears. And yet there are always people who crawl out of the woodwork claiming "We know how to do it right this time!" and "Don't you want to live in a civil society?" etc., etc., etc. Never underestimate the power of sloth within populations and the insatiable appetite for the proverbial free lunch.
She's indeed smart enough to have realized that. But wouldn't it have been so much better had the reason been her realization that giving away free sht is simply bad policy?
Joining this thread a bit late, but I thought I had to mention this.. Security hasn't yet been mentioned as a reason for using assembly.
Let's say you need a hardened general computing device with a handful of basic apps running on it. Start with the device's BIOS, and then move on to HW components' firmware (e.g., SSD drive). Then audit the OS (e.g., minimalist version of a Linux distro), and finally begin coding the app(s) of interest with an assembly compiler you trust (not trivial!).
Huge, inefficient undertaking... realistically one within the domain of only gov't entities. But this is unfortunately what is needed in today's era of compromised BIOS, firmware, operating systems and even compilers that automatically insert "beacons" and countless other crap.
In 1985 my father threw an x86 assembly book on my desk after I complained I couldn't run Sierra's Kings Quest series on his rig optimized for AutoCAD with a Hercules monographics card (i.e., only CGA, EGA and VGA supported by Sierra). So I learned assembly, and it took me months to display my first pixel in "graphics" mode. Point being: going through this exercise, I was able to count and account for every byte in the.exe or.com executables.
Thanks. Just logged in and saw IGW's mindless drivel. You beat me to the punch.
IGW - Before you and your fuckin' idiot ilk spew shit out of that sewer of your mouth about racism, ask yourself whether you actually know what the fuck you're talking about.
I'll take a shot at this from an economics point of view...
The number of cretins claiming there are not enough domestic tech workers is legion (e.g., Ellison, Zuckerberg), and these cretins are spending money hand over fist buying up politicians who want to increase H1-B visas.
I don't wish to turn this into an H1-B discussion, but the Cliff's Notes version is: more H1-B visas = downward pressure on tech wages, as Sanjay in Hyderabad does your job for pennies on the dollar.
If you increase the domestic supply of tech talent, then you'll undercut a key argument for increasing H1-B's. You may still end up see some wage headwinds but not nearly as much as if foreign workers flood the U.S. market place.
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If France owns the trademark on "France", then I own the trademark on "homo sapiens" and "human".
The Chinese aren't concerned with polluting and possibly endangering inhabited swathes of the planet? I'm shocked - shocked - to find such sentiment!
"...there was in fact Russian interference." That's like saying a butterfly flapping its wings in Spain contributed to Hurricane Harvey. Thirteen wage slaves working in a Russian troll farm is cause for the ongoing hysteria and circus? If so, this country is totally screwed.
A picture-based system is only as strong as the protection of its cipher, which can be compromised in its storage medium (i.e., somewhere, somehow there's a key saying "dog" equals "bomb"). With OpenML, which is meant to be a turnkey solution for mitigating complexity, the cipher is the hidden layers. The interesting aspect here is that the state of the art in AI can't fully explain how those hidden layers arrive at their probabilistic results. Hence a potentially strong system.
Admittedly, this concern may be a bridge too far even for the tinfoil hat crowd. But...
If I were a bad guy, knew that intelligence agencies have compromised electronics down to the firmware and hardware levels and needed to securely communicate with other bad guys, then I'd develop image + label data to train Google's service to spit out plaintext results from certain image sets. My compatriots would run images of dogs, cats, etc. through OpenML and receive labels like "Bomb" "Building" "Corner" "Columbus" "Central Park".
Good luck to the good guys when trying to pick up such e-mail traffic.
I now realize I wasn't explicit enough, as i thought this has become common knowledge: tech companies abuse the H1-B program to illegally import not high skill talent but low wage talent. All done under a very official, government sanctioned program..
My cynicism meter went to 11 when I saw a headline about large tech companies banding together ostensibly for the benefit of illeg... errr, "Dreamers".
My first reaction was, "How do they benefit financially with the status quo?" But then I realized this question is of secondary significance. The primary question is, "How does this help distract from the importing of illegal labor via H1-B's?" And then pieces fell into place.
I wonder whether a hundred years from now people will be shaking their heads and saying, "I can't believe people were allowed to go into space without active shielding from ionizing radiation." ...kind of like we shake our heads today after reading about how people worked with microwaves in the 40's and 50's or with x-rays half a century prior to that.
Absent a fundamental breakthrough in propulsion technology (i.e., really energy generation tech), shielding spacecraft with 3 cm to 5 cm layers of lead, thorium, etc. seems impractical if getting from Point A to Point B within a reasonable amount of time is a desired outcome. We'll have to develop active shielding tech that mitigates exposure not only to photons in the x-ray and gamma ray range but also relativistic sub-atomic particles. Not easy.
What follows assumes a B2B or B2D (D = developer, which is a unique creature in its own right) product.
Host a multi-tiered version of your open source software. The value add for which people will pay is twofold:
1. The stack from infrastructure to business software is taken care of and presumably "just works";
2. The subject matter expertise required for accommodating advanced or nuanced use cases.
Tier A = Free, Tier B = $[x] per month, Tier C = $[y] per month and so forth.
Lighten up, Francis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
There are so many variables that go into determining comp packages... performance reviews and aggregate internal statistics (e.g., male vs. female comp) are easily discoverable, but they are just two data points among many. For example, I read an article written by a female television news reporter who discussed her first job out of college. She discovered that her male peer with same credentials, role, etc. was making a few thousand dollar more per year. She opted to ask her boss about the discrepancy, and her boss told her that her peer received more "because he asked." I found just that one anecdote so revealing about the myriad factors that go into pay decisions.
I would have thought Silicon Valley would have supported this proposal. More (legal) high-skilled domestic labor means downward pressure on wages. What exactly are tech leaders railing against?? Higher wages in the future for their gardeners and nannies?
I love the optimism and derring-do. But I suspect Elon and his minions have zero experience with East Coast public works unions. Didn't NYC recently open a new subway station that took something like 20 years and a trillion dollars to finish (I exaggerate only slightly)?
Anyone other than me believe that Apple, Samsung et al. (at a minimum) didn't look the other way before the Wikileaks dump? The OS-level issues really were unknowns for a long enough time that the CIA and other agencies could develop and deploy a playbook for hacking high value targets? What about the other elephant in the room... firmware?
What's wrong with socialism? Really? How's this for an answer: decades of empirical evidence. Take a trip to Venezuela for a glimpse of socialism's end state.
Exclude the well-intentioned people in the Socialist Republic of California and your popular vote comment goes out the window. Thank God for the electoral college.
Aye, this is a valid point that people here have overlooked or are blissfully unaware of. Perhaps drinking a bit of seawater tainted with ingredients from Fukushima may be orders of magnitude less harmful radiation-wise than eating a banana (when measured across, say, one day), but if the human body cannot excrete the ingredients, then the human body is up the creek without a paddle. Check out Section 1.4 in this write-up about the body's ability to process and excrete cesium: https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/... So. In a nutshell: if something like cesium 137 accumulates and accumulates in your body over time, then even minute doses can become problematic for your longevity. For whatever it's worth, I've been laying off sushi since 2010.
Twitter facing an IRS audit and SEC scrutiny in 3... 2... 1...
This request is almost certainly being driven by the legal mechanics in Verizon's acquisition of Yahoo. The deal is in rough shape because of the security breach revelation, and Yahoo's bankers and lawyers likely want to go back to VZ with tangible evidence of nothing-to-see-here-folks.
I feel like this is a seance with Hugo Chavez's ghost. Check out current conditions in Venezuela to see how "investments in society" are panning out. We have decades of empirical evidence proving that promises of free sht always, always, always end up in tears. And yet there are always people who crawl out of the woodwork claiming "We know how to do it right this time!" and "Don't you want to live in a civil society?" etc., etc., etc. Never underestimate the power of sloth within populations and the insatiable appetite for the proverbial free lunch.
She's indeed smart enough to have realized that. But wouldn't it have been so much better had the reason been her realization that giving away free sht is simply bad policy?
Joining this thread a bit late, but I thought I had to mention this.. Security hasn't yet been mentioned as a reason for using assembly. Let's say you need a hardened general computing device with a handful of basic apps running on it. Start with the device's BIOS, and then move on to HW components' firmware (e.g., SSD drive). Then audit the OS (e.g., minimalist version of a Linux distro), and finally begin coding the app(s) of interest with an assembly compiler you trust (not trivial!). Huge, inefficient undertaking... realistically one within the domain of only gov't entities. But this is unfortunately what is needed in today's era of compromised BIOS, firmware, operating systems and even compilers that automatically insert "beacons" and countless other crap. In 1985 my father threw an x86 assembly book on my desk after I complained I couldn't run Sierra's Kings Quest series on his rig optimized for AutoCAD with a Hercules monographics card (i.e., only CGA, EGA and VGA supported by Sierra). So I learned assembly, and it took me months to display my first pixel in "graphics" mode. Point being: going through this exercise, I was able to count and account for every byte in the .exe or .com executables.
Thanks. Just logged in and saw IGW's mindless drivel. You beat me to the punch. IGW - Before you and your fuckin' idiot ilk spew shit out of that sewer of your mouth about racism, ask yourself whether you actually know what the fuck you're talking about.
I'll take a shot at this from an economics point of view... The number of cretins claiming there are not enough domestic tech workers is legion (e.g., Ellison, Zuckerberg), and these cretins are spending money hand over fist buying up politicians who want to increase H1-B visas. I don't wish to turn this into an H1-B discussion, but the Cliff's Notes version is: more H1-B visas = downward pressure on tech wages, as Sanjay in Hyderabad does your job for pennies on the dollar. If you increase the domestic supply of tech talent, then you'll undercut a key argument for increasing H1-B's. You may still end up see some wage headwinds but not nearly as much as if foreign workers flood the U.S. market place.
Well thank goodness China came in and killed its way to stability!