Not exactly post-PC if it works in exactly the same way and still runs Windows. In fact this is going back to the days of mainframes with everything running on a central server. Wow what an amazing advance. I feel so technologically backward. Next you'll be claiming virtualization is some amazing new concept.
Give me a call when you can easily develop for the iPad on the iPad. Or when you can develop complex server applications on a Galaxy S3. PCs are going away in the consumer world (to the detriment of anyone who wants to create anything outside work without forking out a fortune), but PCs are going nowhere in the office where you need a large screen or two to efficiently do your job and a decent keyboard to do accurate typing.
We are not whiny buggy whip holders, we are the people that work in real organisations, where the needs are more complex than Facebook access and where legacy applications abound. When you futurists can come up with a decent device for doing complex work that is a realistic alternative to the PC then you can criticise those of us who actually know something. Until then get the fuck off my lawn.
The claim was that Microsoft introduced the GUI to the masses but it depends how you define the masses really. Remember that Apple also sold to businesses as well so their sales figures are bound to be better than the Amiga's. Commodore never really penetrated the corporate market, but the Amiga 500 and 1200 were a fraction of the price of Macs and PCs at the time and sold tremendously well in Europe to what I would consider "the masses", i.e. ordinary people. I didn't know anyone with a Mac in the early 90s but I knew a lot of Amiga and Atari ST owners because they were about 300GBP and the Mac was more like 2000GBP.
It makes things that you used to know the location of but rarely used much more difficult to find. Like Fields in Word. They're now called QuickParts. Why? QuickParts means fuck all to anyone but some lunatic in Microsoft. The ribbon in Dynamics CRM 2011 now takes up about a quarter of the screen real estate on the Outlook client which makes it much more cumbersome to use on a laptop screen than CRM 4.
I understand why the ribbon exists on a complex piece of software like Word or Excel (although the implementation is very poor, especially for expert users) but why they feel the need to shoehorn it into every piece of software they put out irrespective of whether it makes sense or not is just nuts.
Microsoft's UI design teams seem to be determined to annoy their customers with every iteration of their software.
Nor do I. However a large amount of jobless people is a serious social problem, and unlike roman_mir, who never leaves his house, I'm a bit concerned about the effect a large amount of jobless, starving people would have on my safety.
That is not what I said but then you have to take any argument that doesn't support devil take the hindmost free market dogma and twist it. I said it's understandable that people who are disadvantaged by technological changes would oppose it. Anyone not lacking in empathy like you are knows this.
That doesn't mean I think we should hold back technology, nor does it mean I'm happy for people to be on welfare their entire lives. Your solution appears to be to let people disadvantaged by technological changes starve on the streets or commit crimes just to eat, my solution would be offer people a bursary to retrain in skills the market does need.
There's always a shortage of tradesmen in this country but for some reason my government would much rather pay the unemployed a fortune to sit at home than the 5000GBP to train them to do something useful.
You know what makes me laugh about you libertarians. You are the most selfish bastards I've ever come across, but you have this belief that charity, i.e. generosity, something you can't understand, will replace government social programmes
If you could come up with a proposal for feeding and housing all those people who lose their income then you'd be on to a winner. Opposing progress is perfectly understandable when progress will make you jobless and therefore unable to feed, clothe and house yourself. And don't say 'retrain'. That costs money and time, and in the meantime the rent or mortgage isn't being paid.
The consumer PC is dying. The corporate PC however is still huge and shows little sign of disappearing despite a few retards on here pretending you can run everything in a browser.
And then lots of websites won't work. I'm happy with cookies required for site function. I'm happy with third-party cookies that allow things like Verified by Visa to work. I'm not happy with third-party tracking cookies and would like the option to not be tracked. As the free market refuses to offer this, I'm happy that the EU has stepped in.
One could just say that Apple is equally indifferent to what you want to do with something you own after you've paid.
Except that they actively prevent me using my property in the way I want to use it unless I pay them an extra fee or invalidate the warranty. That's not indifference.
How do I get somewhere to live without paying for it? If I don't get a mortgage then I'll have to pay someone else's mortgage instead in the form of rent which is a worse option.
It only ain't true because you cut the bit out about having to pay $99 a year for your freedom.
Apple has never classified their iOS devices as portable computers. They have always classified them as secondary devices.
I don't care what Apple chooses to call something I own. It's mine as soon as I give them the money and they give me the phone. They don't impose any restrictions on the iMac which is why I have one and if they were dumb enough to do that I wouldn't buy another.
Apple disagrees with you there. They are concerned about the total ecosystem and always have been. They see Apple users as a community and a society. Where your actions affect others and visa versa.
Somehow I doubt that they see Apple users in such a benevolent way. They are concerned with the total ecosystem because it makes them more money. In any case I don't need a supposedly benevolent dictatorship determining what's good for me. That's for me to decide, not them.
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Not exactly post-PC if it works in exactly the same way and still runs Windows. In fact this is going back to the days of mainframes with everything running on a central server. Wow what an amazing advance. I feel so technologically backward. Next you'll be claiming virtualization is some amazing new concept.
Give me a call when you can easily develop for the iPad on the iPad. Or when you can develop complex server applications on a Galaxy S3. PCs are going away in the consumer world (to the detriment of anyone who wants to create anything outside work without forking out a fortune), but PCs are going nowhere in the office where you need a large screen or two to efficiently do your job and a decent keyboard to do accurate typing.
We are not whiny buggy whip holders, we are the people that work in real organisations, where the needs are more complex than Facebook access and where legacy applications abound. When you futurists can come up with a decent device for doing complex work that is a realistic alternative to the PC then you can criticise those of us who actually know something. Until then get the fuck off my lawn.
I really hope that you get your Libertaria...and then you get sick and are unable to pay for it.
The claim was that Microsoft introduced the GUI to the masses but it depends how you define the masses really. Remember that Apple also sold to businesses as well so their sales figures are bound to be better than the Amiga's. Commodore never really penetrated the corporate market, but the Amiga 500 and 1200 were a fraction of the price of Macs and PCs at the time and sold tremendously well in Europe to what I would consider "the masses", i.e. ordinary people. I didn't know anyone with a Mac in the early 90s but I knew a lot of Amiga and Atari ST owners because they were about 300GBP and the Mac was more like 2000GBP.
That was Commodore.
Not useless, just much harder to use than Spotlight or the search in XP.
Mac OS X has had that for a while. It's called Spotlight.
Neurons? Sentient galaxies?
It makes things that you used to know the location of but rarely used much more difficult to find. Like Fields in Word. They're now called QuickParts. Why? QuickParts means fuck all to anyone but some lunatic in Microsoft. The ribbon in Dynamics CRM 2011 now takes up about a quarter of the screen real estate on the Outlook client which makes it much more cumbersome to use on a laptop screen than CRM 4.
I understand why the ribbon exists on a complex piece of software like Word or Excel (although the implementation is very poor, especially for expert users) but why they feel the need to shoehorn it into every piece of software they put out irrespective of whether it makes sense or not is just nuts.
Microsoft's UI design teams seem to be determined to annoy their customers with every iteration of their software.
Careful, that's heresy around here. You'll get patronised to death by people telling you everything runs in the browser now, even though it doesn't.
Those on benefits in my country don't tend to vote thereby nullifying your argument.
LOL genocide is your answer. Brilliant. What a fucking psycho you are.
It's a British English expression. Look it up.
Nor do I. However a large amount of jobless people is a serious social problem, and unlike roman_mir, who never leaves his house, I'm a bit concerned about the effect a large amount of jobless, starving people would have on my safety.
You really hate people don't you.
That is not what I said but then you have to take any argument that doesn't support devil take the hindmost free market dogma and twist it. I said it's understandable that people who are disadvantaged by technological changes would oppose it. Anyone not lacking in empathy like you are knows this.
That doesn't mean I think we should hold back technology, nor does it mean I'm happy for people to be on welfare their entire lives. Your solution appears to be to let people disadvantaged by technological changes starve on the streets or commit crimes just to eat, my solution would be offer people a bursary to retrain in skills the market does need.
There's always a shortage of tradesmen in this country but for some reason my government would much rather pay the unemployed a fortune to sit at home than the 5000GBP to train them to do something useful.
You know what makes me laugh about you libertarians. You are the most selfish bastards I've ever come across, but you have this belief that charity, i.e. generosity, something you can't understand, will replace government social programmes
If you could come up with a proposal for feeding and housing all those people who lose their income then you'd be on to a winner. Opposing progress is perfectly understandable when progress will make you jobless and therefore unable to feed, clothe and house yourself. And don't say 'retrain'. That costs money and time, and in the meantime the rent or mortgage isn't being paid.
If it was a local app it would last as long as you wanted it to last I think is the point.
The consumer PC is dying. The corporate PC however is still huge and shows little sign of disappearing despite a few retards on here pretending you can run everything in a browser.
And then lots of websites won't work. I'm happy with cookies required for site function. I'm happy with third-party cookies that allow things like Verified by Visa to work. I'm not happy with third-party tracking cookies and would like the option to not be tracked. As the free market refuses to offer this, I'm happy that the EU has stepped in.
Except that they actively prevent me using my property in the way I want to use it unless I pay them an extra fee or invalidate the warranty. That's not indifference.
Why are Microsoft apologists so clueless?
http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm
How do I get somewhere to live without paying for it? If I don't get a mortgage then I'll have to pay someone else's mortgage instead in the form of rent which is a worse option.
Taking a stand doesn't pay the mortgage.
It only ain't true because you cut the bit out about having to pay $99 a year for your freedom.
I don't care what Apple chooses to call something I own. It's mine as soon as I give them the money and they give me the phone. They don't impose any restrictions on the iMac which is why I have one and if they were dumb enough to do that I wouldn't buy another.
Somehow I doubt that they see Apple users in such a benevolent way. They are concerned with the total ecosystem because it makes them more money. In any case I don't need a supposedly benevolent dictatorship determining what's good for me. That's for me to decide, not them.