For business use, you would rather use something that is a juicy target to those that can and will disrupt your business instead of something that is less of a target and simply requires a little administration that can be outsourced, "consulted", automated, etc?
[Windows has] got engineers behind it working against those attacks to make it better and safer. I don't see that in the Linux community, and I'm deathly afraid that when a Linux worm comes around and actually makes some splash in the news media, there won't be a fix in time to stop it.
You don't see it in the Linux community because you are either not paying attention or you're not a part of that community/user-base. I see quick turn-around times on security flaws and holes whenever one is discovered. Using Fedora Core, I even get a little flashing icon that tells me these updates are available. My copy of Windows XP Pro hasn't had a "critical update" from MS in quite a while and I manually check Windows Update at least once a week. Unfortunately, MS is known for leaving gaping holes while sitting on the fixes (never releasing them, releasing them after the damage is done, waiting to bundle it with a service pack, etc.).
Your point about vulnerabilities not being reported until a patch is available is fairly far from the truth and saying that the wait time between a report and an available patch is longer for Linux than MS is a little on the FUD side. Care to back these fears of yours up with facts?
By the way, Slashdot and Linux are not the same thing - neither are they the same 'community'. There is a lot of crossover, but not all Slashdot users are Linux users. Some use Windows, BSD, Max and other operating systems. If I have a Linux problem, I don't come here. If I had a Linux 'bitch', I wouldn't come here.
I don't think that anyone is missing the point of think tanks. The organizations themselves (think tanks and those they work with) attempt to portray an air of authority and an "outsiders" perspective on political, economic and social issues. Think tank employees are often quoted in the media, used as talk/debate show guests, etc. Quotes and statistics published by these think tanks are used to back arguments and support viewpoints - some of which influence public policy.
I know, I know. Most of you won't believe that people can act on principle, or that ideas about morality can be true or false. I understand. I went to college, too.
Weak. Usually the broad-sweeping generalization of college students is that they are TOO idealistic. You must've gone to a depressing school.
And... no I don't believe you. A person named "Capitalist" defending "Center for the Moral Defense of Capitalism" which is funded by "Microsoft".
The person that wrote that sounds a little bitter. It sounds like a typical "I thought this was cool before you" post. And.... manga being "rebellious"? Wow, I thought there were more important things to be rebellious about than the choice of your comic book with requisite product tie-ins.
I like manga as much as the next geek but it's just an entertainment medium used to sell other merchandise.
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Sun needs to embrace SWT or make something better ( thats not hard )
Cool!! Where's the web page for your implementation?
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Great post, I agree with it overall.
However: Your final comment about businesses avoiding Perl 'scripters' like the plague is telling that your experiences have most likely been limited to the script kiddie types.... [snip for space's sake]....touch your PHP code.
Actually my experience is with businesses large and small and the scripters being professionals. I speak as a professional myself, with experience in both Perl and PHP. My "avoiding like the plague" statement comes from said businesses own dealings with Perl scripters, not my own. You know the PHBs? They see Perl as too chaotic, difficult to plan for, maybe even too esoteric (yes, this will be true as long as there are hordes of unemployed.NET and Java programmers out there) etc. Note that I am *not* saying that PHP is viewed in a more favorable light, except in the time needed to complete a project or prototype.
I understand the technical merits and downfalls of both Perl and PHP (I have used both extensively in multiple professional settings) and I agree that in many ways Perl is superior from a technology standpoint.... but the poster I was replying to was falling back to the standard argument of using the typical (in his mind) scripter of X language being inferior to a scripter of Y language. He uses that to show that X language is inferior technology when his arguments have nothing to do with technology but methodology. He was the one bringing up the "leeter" argument and that's one of those idiotic attitudes that just needs to die.
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First of all, your post is as inflammatory as the one you're calling a troll.
Debugging someone else's code in a language that enforces structured programming pragmas as little as possible is a nightmare. I know this because I do it on a regular basis.
Yeah, it's kind of like going in and having to maintain a "Perl Guru"'s messy overly-terse Perl code. What a nightmare, all right!!
BTW, there is no need to be a "guru" to write Perl programs. An understanding of the syntax, as well as basic structured programming/OO principles is all that is necessary to create fast, reusable, and reliable Perl code. The problem is that frequently people lack the latter, so they jump on a language like PHP which lets them get away with not having to know such things. Such people view PHP as superior and Perl programmers as pretentious language snobs because they can do in 5 minutes in PHP what would have taken them an hour to learn how to do in Perl. That in no way invalidates the viewpoint of the Perl snob. PHP is a half-ass hack of a language that happens to be preferred by the majority of half-ass hacks of programmers out there.
Haha. I love the Perl zealots:). Your emphasis that Perl is good *if* "basic structured programming/OO principles" are applied. Well, really? When comparing the merits of two languages, you should assume that "basic structured programming/OO principles" are equivalent when using either language. Pointing to these "principles" and claiming that Perl scripters have some sort of patent on them is absurd. It applies to any language. Don't compare the script writer's methodologies when you're comparing language. It just makes you sound elitist.
Note, this is not a flame at PHP developers. I know some really good ones. I'm flaming people who suggest that PHP is a better language because it doesn't make you learn anything about software design principles. That's precisely the reason I avoid other people's PHP code whenever possible and don't recommend its use in a business environment where software infrastructure quality counts towards the bottom line.
When did someone "suggest that PHP is a better language because it doesn't make you learn anything about software design principles"? Where did you read that?
As far as being used in a business environment... most businesses I have dealt with avoid Perl like the plague. It leaves too much up to the "principles" of the Perl scripter. Sorry, businesses don't need that.
I personally consuming at least a half dozen egg yolks a day (5 times the USRDA maximum) and have a cholesterol level in the bottom 5% of Americans.
What kind of diet are you adhering to? You eat at least 6 eggs per day? I hope you're at least taking a supplement to go along with your steady diet of yolks.
I bet that not only your hat, but your underwear is made of tinfoil. Any post with "NSA", "Nazis", "John Lennon", "FBI", "MKUltra", "Carnivore", "Echelon" and "1984" in it is hard to take seriously. You should be a Hollywood screenwriter.
There's a workaround for the storing of URLs in Mozilla (and Firefox). It's been in since the rewrite. While you are at the page you want to store, simply press the CTRL key and the D key at the same time. When you want to get back to that article the next day, press the ALT key and the B key at the same time. You will see your article there. Experience the power of open source!
For what platforms will the game be available? The game will be available on PCs and the Macs. We are developing both versions simultaneously and will be shipping them at the same time, as with our other recent games.
Temple of Elemental Evil also incorporated a D2-like hardcore mode called "Ironman". It's the only way I could play it, for all of the reasons you mentioned.
There is also a small segment of the MMO community that wants a game with similar rules. The rest of the MMO players seem to view 'permadeath' as disgusting and unfun. I guess they want no real challenge in their march to 1000th level and the Vorpal Sword of Bunny Killing.
Trials of Ascension, Atriarch, Realms of Torment, Frontier 1859 and a few more MMOs being developed by smaller studios all plan to include some form of permadeath. Not all permanent deaths in these games come about through combat (some are by aging, jury trials for bad players, etc).
Also, while I've never played it, Star Wars Generation had permadeath for the Jedi class but I understand that's been removed. Let's also not forget the many MUDs that have permadeath as part of the basic play rules.
Publishers shy away from permadeath for fear of driving away subscribers. Most players don't like permadeath because they take their games too seriously and have no idea what a thrill it is when you absolutely must survive and don't get endlessly resurrected. The probably play their games with cheat codes as well.
Actually, I have been through jury selection and I was eliminated in the first round of weeding out the unwanted jurors. That has nothing to do with my post.
What I was attempting to say is: If it's of your opinion that our legal system is broken due in part to a pool of ignorant jurors, then when it comes time for you to go through jury selection do your best to ensure you are selected. Funny how so many people think they are smarter than everyone else.
Add twelve people not smart enough to get out of jury duty and you have yet another millionaire malpractice attorney in the making
It may be the case that some people believe serving on jury *duty* fulfills one of their obligations to society. If that's difficult to comprehend, think of it this way: those smart people who feel strongly that the typical juror is of inferior intelligence and excessively gullible should, if they are the smart ones, sit on a jury so that the decisions turn out according to their enlightened notion of justice. Isn't that what the smart people do?
Not to nitpick, but when the previous post used the term "Western States" he was using this definition of "state":
5 a : a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially : one that is sovereign b : the political organization of such a body of people
"Doing well", "being happy", "happy with current job" etc have nothing to do with "my own". It has to do with corporate whims which are completely beyond my control.
I don't know, look at these statistics. Yes, it's a small sample group but more interesting to me is that it's my peer group!!!
1 - I lost my job 2 - I move in with a friend in a different city while looking for a new job. My friend gets laid off due to restructuring. 3 - A month later my girlfriend is laid off due to consolidation. 4 - I wait for the rest of my relatives and friends to lose thier jobs.
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err "Macs" came out "Max".
Now, now...
For business use, you would rather use something that is a juicy target to those that can and will disrupt your business instead of something that is less of a target and simply requires a little administration that can be outsourced, "consulted", automated, etc?
[Windows has] got engineers behind it working against those attacks to make it better and safer. I don't see that in the Linux community, and I'm deathly afraid that when a Linux worm comes around and actually makes some splash in the news media, there won't be a fix in time to stop it.
You don't see it in the Linux community because you are either not paying attention or you're not a part of that community/user-base. I see quick turn-around times on security flaws and holes whenever one is discovered. Using Fedora Core, I even get a little flashing icon that tells me these updates are available. My copy of Windows XP Pro hasn't had a "critical update" from MS in quite a while and I manually check Windows Update at least once a week. Unfortunately, MS is known for leaving gaping holes while sitting on the fixes (never releasing them, releasing them after the damage is done, waiting to bundle it with a service pack, etc.).
Your point about vulnerabilities not being reported until a patch is available is fairly far from the truth and saying that the wait time between a report and an available patch is longer for Linux than MS is a little on the FUD side. Care to back these fears of yours up with facts?
By the way, Slashdot and Linux are not the same thing - neither are they the same 'community'. There is a lot of crossover, but not all Slashdot users are Linux users. Some use Windows, BSD, Max and other operating systems. If I have a Linux problem, I don't come here. If I had a Linux 'bitch', I wouldn't come here.
I don't think that anyone is missing the point of think tanks. The organizations themselves (think tanks and those they work with) attempt to portray an air of authority and an "outsiders" perspective on political, economic and social issues. Think tank employees are often quoted in the media, used as talk/debate show guests, etc. Quotes and statistics published by these think tanks are used to back arguments and support viewpoints - some of which influence public policy.
I know, I know. Most of you won't believe that people can act on principle, or that ideas about morality can be true or false. I understand. I went to college, too.
Weak. Usually the broad-sweeping generalization of college students is that they are TOO idealistic. You must've gone to a depressing school.
And... no I don't believe you. A person named "Capitalist" defending "Center for the Moral Defense of Capitalism" which is funded by "Microsoft".
Nice try, though.
IIRC, UT2004 uses Ogg Vorbis due to it being royalty free and smaller than straight PCM.
The game, City of Heroes, uses Ogg V for audio.
The person that wrote that sounds a little bitter. It sounds like a typical "I thought this was cool before you" post. And.... manga being "rebellious"? Wow, I thought there were more important things to be rebellious about than the choice of your comic book with requisite product tie-ins.
I like manga as much as the next geek but it's just an entertainment medium used to sell other merchandise.
Sun needs to embrace SWT or make something better ( thats not hard )
Cool!! Where's the web page for your implementation?
Great post, I agree with it overall.
.NET and Java programmers out there) etc. Note that I am *not* saying that PHP is viewed in a more favorable light, except in the time needed to complete a project or prototype.
However:
Your final comment about businesses avoiding Perl 'scripters' like the plague is telling that your experiences have most likely been limited to the script kiddie types.... [snip for space's sake]....touch your PHP code.
Actually my experience is with businesses large and small and the scripters being professionals. I speak as a professional myself, with experience in both Perl and PHP. My "avoiding like the plague" statement comes from said businesses own dealings with Perl scripters, not my own. You know the PHBs? They see Perl as too chaotic, difficult to plan for, maybe even too esoteric (yes, this will be true as long as there are hordes of unemployed
I understand the technical merits and downfalls of both Perl and PHP (I have used both extensively in multiple professional settings) and I agree that in many ways Perl is superior from a technology standpoint.... but the poster I was replying to was falling back to the standard argument of using the typical (in his mind) scripter of X language being inferior to a scripter of Y language. He uses that to show that X language is inferior technology when his arguments have nothing to do with technology but methodology. He was the one bringing up the "leeter" argument and that's one of those idiotic attitudes that just needs to die.
First of all, your post is as inflammatory as the one you're calling a troll.
:). Your emphasis that Perl is good *if* "basic structured programming/OO principles" are applied. Well, really? When comparing the merits of two languages, you should assume that "basic structured programming/OO principles" are equivalent when using either language. Pointing to these "principles" and claiming that Perl scripters have some sort of patent on them is absurd. It applies to any language. Don't compare the script writer's methodologies when you're comparing language. It just makes you sound elitist.
... most businesses I have dealt with avoid Perl like the plague. It leaves too much up to the "principles" of the Perl scripter. Sorry, businesses don't need that.
Debugging someone else's code in a language that enforces structured programming pragmas as little as possible is a nightmare. I know this because I do it on a regular basis.
Yeah, it's kind of like going in and having to maintain a "Perl Guru"'s messy overly-terse Perl code. What a nightmare, all right!!
BTW, there is no need to be a "guru" to write Perl programs. An understanding of the syntax, as well as basic structured programming/OO principles is all that is necessary to create fast, reusable, and reliable Perl code. The problem is that frequently people lack the latter, so they jump on a language like PHP which lets them get away with not having to know such things. Such people view PHP as superior and Perl programmers as pretentious language snobs because they can do in 5 minutes in PHP what would have taken them an hour to learn how to do in Perl. That in no way invalidates the viewpoint of the Perl snob. PHP is a half-ass hack of a language that happens to be preferred by the majority of half-ass hacks of programmers out there.
Haha. I love the Perl zealots
Note, this is not a flame at PHP developers. I know some really good ones. I'm flaming people who suggest that PHP is a better language because it doesn't make you learn anything about software design principles. That's precisely the reason I avoid other people's PHP code whenever possible and don't recommend its use in a business environment where software infrastructure quality counts towards the bottom line.
When did someone "suggest that PHP is a better language because it doesn't make you learn anything about software design principles"? Where did you read that?
As far as being used in a business environment
Get your psychotropics ready, people!!! It's time for a trip through space.
I personally consuming at least a half dozen egg yolks a day (5 times the USRDA maximum) and have a cholesterol level in the bottom 5% of Americans.
What kind of diet are you adhering to? You eat at least 6 eggs per day? I hope you're at least taking a supplement to go along with your steady diet of yolks.
I bet that not only your hat, but your underwear is made of tinfoil. Any post with "NSA", "Nazis", "John Lennon", "FBI", "MKUltra", "Carnivore", "Echelon" and "1984" in it is hard to take seriously. You should be a Hollywood screenwriter.
There's a workaround for the storing of URLs in Mozilla (and Firefox). It's been in since the rewrite. While you are at the page you want to store, simply press the CTRL key and the D key at the same time. When you want to get back to that article the next day, press the ALT key and the B key at the same time. You will see your article there. Experience the power of open source!
From the FAQ:
For what platforms will the game be available?
The game will be available on PCs and the Macs. We are developing both versions simultaneously and will be shipping them at the same time, as with our other recent games.
Temple of Elemental Evil also incorporated a D2-like hardcore mode called "Ironman". It's the only way I could play it, for all of the reasons you mentioned.
There is also a small segment of the MMO community that wants a game with similar rules. The rest of the MMO players seem to view 'permadeath' as disgusting and unfun. I guess they want no real challenge in their march to 1000th level and the Vorpal Sword of Bunny Killing.
Trials of Ascension, Atriarch, Realms of Torment, Frontier 1859 and a few more MMOs being developed by smaller studios all plan to include some form of permadeath. Not all permanent deaths in these games come about through combat (some are by aging, jury trials for bad players, etc).
Also, while I've never played it, Star Wars Generation had permadeath for the Jedi class but I understand that's been removed. Let's also not forget the many MUDs that have permadeath as part of the basic play rules.
Publishers shy away from permadeath for fear of driving away subscribers. Most players don't like permadeath because they take their games too seriously and have no idea what a thrill it is when you absolutely must survive and don't get endlessly resurrected. The probably play their games with cheat codes as well.
You also forgot my all-time favorite "gotta go lay some cable".
Actually, I have been through jury selection and I was eliminated in the first round of weeding out the unwanted jurors. That has nothing to do with my post.
What I was attempting to say is: If it's of your opinion that our legal system is broken due in part to a pool of ignorant jurors, then when it comes time for you to go through jury selection do your best to ensure you are selected. Funny how so many people think they are smarter than everyone else.
Add twelve people not smart enough to get out of jury duty and you have yet another millionaire malpractice attorney in the making
It may be the case that some people believe serving on jury *duty* fulfills one of their obligations to society. If that's difficult to comprehend, think of it this way: those smart people who feel strongly that the typical juror is of inferior intelligence and excessively gullible should, if they are the smart ones, sit on a jury so that the decisions turn out according to their enlightened notion of justice. Isn't that what the smart people do?
"A Viper with a competent driver would eat your electric car alive, then throw up on it, then crap it back out."
Nice imagery there, but I think you forgot a step between throw up and crap.
1 - Eat your electric car alive
2 - Throw up on it
3 - ????
4 - Crap it back out
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Clever
Not to nitpick, but when the previous post used the term "Western States" he was using this definition of "state":
5 a : a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially : one that is sovereign b : the political organization of such a body of people
(Courtesy Merriam-Webster Online)
That is just wrong.
"Doing well", "being happy", "happy with current job" etc have nothing to do with "my own". It has to do with corporate whims which are completely beyond my control.
I don't know, look at these statistics. Yes, it's a small sample group but more interesting to me is that it's my peer group!!!
1 - I lost my job
2 - I move in with a friend in a different city while looking for a new job. My friend gets laid off due to restructuring.
3 - A month later my girlfriend is laid off due to consolidation.
4 - I wait for the rest of my relatives and friends to lose thier jobs.
What, are you prone to suicidal tendencies or something?