Just wanted to let you know that FC1 runs just fine on an 800MHz Duron/384MB. That is my work desktop and I use it everyday. Sure it is not as fast as my Athlon 1.2 desktop or my P4 2.2 laptop, but it is fast enough to get my work done. Sure OO can take 10 seconds or so to load, but so what . Once OO is up it runs fine. I just leave it running. Right now I have OO, Mozilla (web & email), several konsoles, and IE 6 (under CrossOver Office) running. Top shows that all 384 MB of RAM is used but some of that is cache.
I also have two almost identical dual P3-500/1GB systems with SCSI disks. The systems are identical except for the video cards. W2K machine has 64MB video card, Linux system has 4MB video card. The Linux system (Slackware 9.1/KDE 3.2) feels slightly faster at basic OS tasks (browse HD, open simple text files, login,etc). P3-500 is plenty fast enough to run Linux on.
In conclusion, 800MHz/256MB is enough to run FC1 with KDE. It may not be screamingly fast, but to browse the web, send email, and work with office documents it is plenty fast.
You may want to keep tabs on CXBX, the Xbox Emulator. See this story for more details. My computer is not much faster than my XBox and only runs Linux so it is of no use to me.
I used to run ReiserFS on all my partitions. I had one drive that contained the OS and one drive that contained all my user data. The drive with the user data was an IBM DeskStar (DeathStar) drive. When the drive went south it ate the entire ResierFS filesystem with it. There were only a few bad blocks on the HD but one of them was the superblock (or whatever ResierFS calls it). If I had used Ext3 I could have used a different superblock to at least get some of my data back.
I ended up loosing ~20GB of data. Since then I have not used ReiserFS for anything.
I currently use XFS on my primary home desktop, JFS on my laptop and CD burning computer, and ext3 on my car ogg player. So far (~12 months) no problems. I am keeping my fingers crossed though.
The vest I wore as a pogue was definately the "big ol' shoulder pad looking kevlar vest." The "new" vests had pockets for ballistic plates, but they were essentially the same vest I wore. I have never seen the other vest you posted a link to.
In case anyone was wondering, in the Marine Corps, pogue is a (usually derogitory) term used to describe any non-combat MOS (Military Occupational Specialty). i.e. I was a computer tech during my term of service...a pogue, not a rifleman.
Infonaut, you have touched on a very important point that I did not mention...heat dissipation. The kevlar vest I wore ('96-'00 USMC) were hot. We had many people who wore them when they ran simply to sweat more. The old/current (not sure which anymore) vests are difficult to deal with. However (IMHO) they are much better than nothing. Thankfully I was never in a postition to need the vest, but I was thankful I had it.
As a former member of the US armed forces I had to wear a kevlar vest from time to time. The vests I wore hindered movement considerably. They were not that heavy, but the inflexibility was the worst part. As I was finishing my term new vest were just making their way into use that incorporated ballistic plates (steel I think, maybe ceramic) to actually stop bullets. The vest I wore were only said to stop fragments not a direct bullet impact. The downside to the newer vests was heavier weight. If they can make the vest more flexible, lighter weight, and have better stopping great.
Our service members need every advantage they can get. Wether or not you agree with the politics that puts our troops in harms way a person must be very anti-American to not want them all to come home again.
That is all for my rant. Time to go home for the day.:)
I wasn't sure whether to mod your post as Interesting or Funny (based on the last line). Oh well. Guess I'll just post and lose the ability to moderate in this discussion.:)
Car industry market predictions include factors of customer loyalty--why would computer sales be any different?
I do not think the comparison between car manufacturer loyalty and computer manufacturer loyalty is valid.
ex. If I buy a Ford pickup, I can haul things in the bed of it. If I buy a Chevy truck I can haul things in the bed of it. The same idea applies to cars/minivans/SUVs/etc.
On the other hand, if I buy a Mac, I can run software made for OSX. Any previously purchased Windows software is wasted money. The loss of money invested in the Windows platform is the thing that I think will hold Apple back.
The Linux users have already borken the link with the Windows platform and are therefore free to choose whichever hardware/software they want.
Another poster stated that if you post in a discussion your previous moderation (in that discussion) is undone. I am not sure, but I think I will check the next time I have mod points.
I do not know if your moderations are undone. I reread the FAQ and either I missed that (likely) or it just does not specify. Either way, it is possible to post to a discussion after you have moderated in that discussion. Once you post, I don't think your moderation is undone, but the mod points you used are definately gone and you may no longer moderate in that discussion.
Once you can no longer moderate a discussion you may still moderate other discussions.
I made my comment for the parent of my post that said:
They can't comment if they moderate now, can they?
I think it could have been better said as:
They can't moderate once they comment, now can they?
[OT]
Do you remember when you signed up for slashdot? I have been trying to figure out when I signed up. I first had an internet connection in Feb '97. I think I started reading slashdot shortly after, but did not sign up as a user for quite some time.
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Not just another "migration" story
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Rome Moving to Linux
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· Score: 3, Insightful
After reading the article, those involved are being quite realistic about this test. They are investigating changes for political reasons, but they also expect long term monetary savings.
From the article: (emphasis mine)
Political issues to part, to pass from the software owner that free one would have tradursi in a good saving of money for the communal cases. "But
this probably will happen alone in the medium period", specifies the Gramaglia city council member. "In the short term, what it is saved on the licences rispende in the formation of the staff, that will have to learn to use the new instruments. There are 9500 employs to you communal, by now, that they use the computer ".
This is good for the viability of Linux on the desktop. Object studies of using Linux for desktop machines will highlight weaknesses that can be addressed.
They can't comment if they moderate now, can they?
One small correction: you can moderate until you post. You can post in any discussion. Once you post though, you can no longer moderate that discussion.
On the panoramic picture: We goofed. It should not have been that red.
The other photographs are taken with the infa-red instead of visible red filter. Iron dominated the visible red spectrum. To allow a better analysis of the compounds found infa-red light is used instead.
I have to agree.:) I don't use the internet for communication with my friends and family. The majority of them live in the same town and the others I visit when work takes me their way.
At first I was going to give you a Funny mod, but I think it would have been meta-moderated into oblivion.
At work I have been implementing a WAN between all our retail locations. One of them is out away from any city and serviceable only with satelite.
After doing some checking into the way satellite works I came to the conclusion that just about everyone you speak to at Hughes (owners of DirectTV & DirectPC) has no idea how their system works. You can call and speak to them (or a myriad of resellers), but them do not have a clue. I was finally able to get in touch with an engineer at Hughes.
The engineer seemed to have a clue and told me that just about every type of VPN would be crap across satellite. The reason he gave was that the signal was already encrypted (3DES I think). The overhead of encrypting an encrypted signal was more than the sat modem could handle.
My experince with it shows the same thing. For any type of VPN work stay away from satellite. SSH over sat. was not terrible, but it wasn't much better than the 28.8 modem I was replacing.
After working with DSL, Cable, and partial T-1 lines for all other retail offices the satellite is the worst in terms of reliability. In the ~3 months it has been installed it has gone down twice for a couple of hourseach time. The outages have been on clear days. Hughes claims the problem has been with their NOC. (I don't want to start on how poor their NOC must be.)
Are Slashdot readers actually reading this story? What with Linux, BSD, and rant in the title it must be good.:)
I guess that is what I get for working on Friday afternoon instead of reading Slashdot. It is time for the afternoon sun to wash out my monitor anyway, so I have to take a break.
I hear quite a bit of complaining on Slashdot about Microsoft and their software/business practices. The complaints may have some merit, but I think a no-cost tool that helps integrate Windows and *nix is great.
Diversity is the only way to survive. If Linux (or any OS) dominates to the extent Microsoft has we all lose. I think Microsoft is starting to see that. They may be simply acting like they want interoperability, but if it makes my job (mixed *nix/windows admin) easier without costing my employer more than I am all for it.
BTW I have a copy of v3.0 that I got for the cost of shipping. Those who must admin Windows systems but enjoy the tools availble on *nix should definately check it out.
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Re:Help: re-introducing myself to the intracacies.
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Kernel 2.6.1 Released
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· Score: 4, Informative
When I went from 2.4.xx t 2.6.0-testxx (on a Gentoo 1.4 system) I downloaded the 2.6.x kernel and checked in Documentation\Changes. That file will list several packages and the minimum version needed. It also has the command to check the version and the site to download updated packages. Once you have verified that you have the correct versions of extra software compile the new 2.6.x kernel. Boot it and see what breaks. Of course you want to keep a backup of your current working 2.4.x kernel to boot.
As for breaking half your apps: no. I built my Gentoo system under a 2.4.x kernel and now run a 2.6.x kernel with no problems.
This is a long shot by far, but, hey, this is Salshdot.
1) SCO sues Google.
2) SCO gets a preliminary injuction against Google.
3) Google replaces their search engine page with links describing the stupidity of the case.
What kind of impact do you think that would have on SCO investors?
My bank had online billpay and banking that worked fine from Mozilla (since 1.0.x or so). Recently they merged with a much larger bank and have integrated their online services. Now Mozilla works to access my account and see my balance, but I am unable to actually submit a payment. To get to the point, I am looking into other banks because they are unwilling to even consider fixing the "upgrade."
So, what bank do you know works with Mozilla, or Konq?
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mmmmmm...crypto analyst at work? :)
Just wanted to let you know that FC1 runs just fine on an 800MHz Duron/384MB. That is my work desktop and I use it everyday. Sure it is not as fast as my Athlon 1.2 desktop or my P4 2.2 laptop, but it is fast enough to get my work done. Sure OO can take 10 seconds or so to load, but so what . Once OO is up it runs fine. I just leave it running. Right now I have OO, Mozilla (web & email), several konsoles, and IE 6 (under CrossOver Office) running. Top shows that all 384 MB of RAM is used but some of that is cache.
I also have two almost identical dual P3-500/1GB systems with SCSI disks. The systems are identical except for the video cards. W2K machine has 64MB video card, Linux system has 4MB video card. The Linux system (Slackware 9.1/KDE 3.2) feels slightly faster at basic OS tasks (browse HD, open simple text files, login ,etc). P3-500 is plenty fast enough to run Linux on.
In conclusion, 800MHz/256MB is enough to run FC1 with KDE. It may not be screamingly fast, but to browse the web, send email, and work with office documents it is plenty fast.
Cheers,the_crowbar
You're right. My computer does have some use. I guess I should have worded that a bit differently. :)
the_crowbarYou may want to keep tabs on CXBX, the Xbox Emulator. See this story for more details. My computer is not much faster than my XBox and only runs Linux so it is of no use to me.
the_crowbar
I used to run ReiserFS on all my partitions. I had one drive that contained the OS and one drive that contained all my user data. The drive with the user data was an IBM DeskStar (DeathStar) drive. When the drive went south it ate the entire ResierFS filesystem with it. There were only a few bad blocks on the HD but one of them was the superblock (or whatever ResierFS calls it). If I had used Ext3 I could have used a different superblock to at least get some of my data back.
I ended up loosing ~20GB of data. Since then I have not used ReiserFS for anything.
I currently use XFS on my primary home desktop, JFS on my laptop and CD burning computer, and ext3 on my car ogg player. So far (~12 months) no problems. I am keeping my fingers crossed though.
the_crowbar
The vest I wore as a pogue was definately the "big ol' shoulder pad looking kevlar vest." The "new" vests had pockets for ballistic plates, but they were essentially the same vest I wore. I have never seen the other vest you posted a link to.
In case anyone was wondering, in the Marine Corps, pogue is a (usually derogitory) term used to describe any non-combat MOS (Military Occupational Specialty). i.e. I was a computer tech during my term of service...a pogue, not a rifleman.
the_crowbar
Infonaut, you have touched on a very important point that I did not mention...heat dissipation. The kevlar vest I wore ('96-'00 USMC) were hot. We had many people who wore them when they ran simply to sweat more. The old/current (not sure which anymore) vests are difficult to deal with. However (IMHO) they are much better than nothing. Thankfully I was never in a postition to need the vest, but I was thankful I had it.
Cheers,the_crowbar
As a former member of the US armed forces I had to wear a kevlar vest from time to time. The vests I wore hindered movement considerably. They were not that heavy, but the inflexibility was the worst part. As I was finishing my term new vest were just making their way into use that incorporated ballistic plates (steel I think, maybe ceramic) to actually stop bullets. The vest I wore were only said to stop fragments not a direct bullet impact. The downside to the newer vests was heavier weight. If they can make the vest more flexible, lighter weight, and have better stopping great.
Our service members need every advantage they can get. Wether or not you agree with the politics that puts our troops in harms way a person must be very anti-American to not want them all to come home again.
That is all for my rant. Time to go home for the day. :)
the_crowbarI wasn't sure whether to mod your post as Interesting or Funny (based on the last line). Oh well. Guess I'll just post and lose the ability to moderate in this discussion. :)
the_crowbar
I do not think the comparison between car manufacturer loyalty and computer manufacturer loyalty is valid.
ex. If I buy a Ford pickup, I can haul things in the bed of it. If I buy a Chevy truck I can haul things in the bed of it. The same idea applies to cars/minivans/SUVs/etc.
On the other hand, if I buy a Mac, I can run software made for OSX. Any previously purchased Windows software is wasted money. The loss of money invested in the Windows platform is the thing that I think will hold Apple back.
The Linux users have already borken the link with the Windows platform and are therefore free to choose whichever hardware/software they want.
Another poster stated that if you post in a discussion your previous moderation (in that discussion) is undone. I am not sure, but I think I will check the next time I have mod points.
the_crowbarI do not know if your moderations are undone. I reread the FAQ and either I missed that (likely) or it just does not specify. Either way, it is possible to post to a discussion after you have moderated in that discussion. Once you post, I don't think your moderation is undone, but the mod points you used are definately gone and you may no longer moderate in that discussion.
Once you can no longer moderate a discussion you may still moderate other discussions.
I made my comment for the parent of my post that said:
I think it could have been better said as:[OT]
Do you remember when you signed up for slashdot? I have been trying to figure out when I signed up. I first had an internet connection in Feb '97. I think I started reading slashdot shortly after, but did not sign up as a user for quite some time.
the_crowbarAfter reading the article, those involved are being quite realistic about this test. They are investigating changes for political reasons, but they also expect long term monetary savings.
From the article: (emphasis mine)
This is good for the viability of Linux on the desktop. Object studies of using Linux for desktop machines will highlight weaknesses that can be addressed.
the_crowbarOne small correction: you can moderate until you post. You can post in any discussion. Once you post though, you can no longer moderate that discussion.
the_crowbarOn the panoramic picture: We goofed. It should not have been that red.
The other photographs are taken with the infa-red instead of visible red filter. Iron dominated the visible red spectrum. To allow a better analysis of the compounds found infa-red light is used instead.
<joke>No conspiracy here. Move on.</joke>
the_crowbarI have to agree. :) I don't use the internet for communication with my friends and family. The majority of them live in the same town and the others I visit when work takes me their way.
At first I was going to give you a Funny mod, but I think it would have been meta-moderated into oblivion.
Your port does, however, deserve a Funny mod.the_crowbar
At work I have been implementing a WAN between all our retail locations. One of them is out away from any city and serviceable only with satelite.
After doing some checking into the way satellite works I came to the conclusion that just about everyone you speak to at Hughes (owners of DirectTV & DirectPC) has no idea how their system works. You can call and speak to them (or a myriad of resellers), but them do not have a clue. I was finally able to get in touch with an engineer at Hughes.
The engineer seemed to have a clue and told me that just about every type of VPN would be crap across satellite. The reason he gave was that the signal was already encrypted (3DES I think). The overhead of encrypting an encrypted signal was more than the sat modem could handle.
My experince with it shows the same thing. For any type of VPN work stay away from satellite. SSH over sat. was not terrible, but it wasn't much better than the 28.8 modem I was replacing.
After working with DSL, Cable, and partial T-1 lines for all other retail offices the satellite is the worst in terms of reliability. In the ~3 months it has been installed it has gone down twice for a couple of hourseach time. The outages have been on clear days. Hughes claims the problem has been with their NOC. (I don't want to start on how poor their NOC must be.)
Just FYI.the_crowbar
We (the US) are just now starting to get laws that protect us from marketing that we "have taken steps to prevent."
Look at the national Do-Not-Call list and the recent CAN-SPAM laws. Then look at their effectiveness.
I only have my cell phone and no longer receive telemarketing calls, but my ~400+ spam emails a day have not decreased at all.
Your first statement that "Legislation sucks" is very true. However, I think it should be re-worked to: "Legislation sucks, and is rarely effective."
the_crowbarOnly 31 comments so far and it is slashdotted.
Are Slashdot readers actually reading this story? What with Linux, BSD, and rant in the title it must be good. :)
I guess that is what I get for working on Friday afternoon instead of reading Slashdot. It is time for the afternoon sun to wash out my monitor anyway, so I have to take a break.
</worthless_post>the_crowbar
Lost?
No. We (computer users) are losing. It is possible to change things around.
the_crowbar
I hear quite a bit of complaining on Slashdot about Microsoft and their software/business practices. The complaints may have some merit, but I think a no-cost tool that helps integrate Windows and *nix is great.
Diversity is the only way to survive. If Linux (or any OS) dominates to the extent Microsoft has we all lose. I think Microsoft is starting to see that. They may be simply acting like they want interoperability, but if it makes my job (mixed *nix/windows admin) easier without costing my employer more than I am all for it.
BTW I have a copy of v3.0 that I got for the cost of shipping. Those who must admin Windows systems but enjoy the tools availble on *nix should definately check it out.
the_crowbar
When I went from 2.4.xx t 2.6.0-testxx (on a Gentoo 1.4 system) I downloaded the 2.6.x kernel and checked in Documentation\Changes. That file will list several packages and the minimum version needed. It also has the command to check the version and the site to download updated packages. Once you have verified that you have the correct versions of extra software compile the new 2.6.x kernel. Boot it and see what breaks. Of course you want to keep a backup of your current working 2.4.x kernel to boot.
As for breaking half your apps: no. I built my Gentoo system under a 2.4.x kernel and now run a 2.6.x kernel with no problems.
the_crowbar
This is a long shot by far, but, hey, this is Salshdot.
1) SCO sues Google.
2) SCO gets a preliminary injuction against Google.
3) Google replaces their search engine page with links describing the stupidity of the case.
What kind of impact do you think that would have on SCO investors?
the_crowbar
Thanks for the info. I am on the other side of the continent though. If I ever move to Cali I will keep that in mind.
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My bank had online billpay and banking that worked fine from Mozilla (since 1.0.x or so). Recently they merged with a much larger bank and have integrated their online services. Now Mozilla works to access my account and see my balance, but I am unable to actually submit a payment. To get to the point, I am looking into other banks because they are unwilling to even consider fixing the "upgrade."
So, what bank do you know works with Mozilla, or Konq?
Thanks,
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