The OS does not come free. The license fee is part of the purchase price of the system.
SCO is not trying to compete in the OS market. They are intefering with IBMs move from AIX, for which they pay substantial licensing fees to SCO for use of System V code, to Linux. If IBM ditches AIX for Linux that would put a big hole in SCOs revenue. Consequently SCO have dreamt up the curious notion that they can collect licensing fees for Linux.
It's a scam to enhance shareholder value and to a certain extent, for the time being, it's working.
The amount of energy derived from the sugar in your blood could not exceed the amount of energy in the food you ate to put the sugar in your body in the first place. This is something that bugged me a little with the humans-as-batteries Matrix scenario. All those humans had to be fed something to keep them alive and the food could probably have been converted to power or stored without the use of a human body. Also, why was it necessary to keep the minds of the human batteries alive? Why not just surgically or chemically suppress brain activity or even genetically engineer a new breed of brainless humans (Epsilon Minus Semi-Morons ??) to use as batteries? And why, in the Matrix Reloaded, were agents driving conventional cars able to keep up with Trinity when she was riding a Ducati? Do you have any idea how fast those bikes are? This isn't some Harley cruiser. The acceleration is breathtaking and the top speed is probably somewhere in the vicinity of 300Kmh. I think it was a 996 she was riding. Here are some mouth watering specs I googled for the 996.
Well, without wanting to sound like a ranting crazy man who should be locked up to protect the public, the average user should be killed and I don't mean in a humane way like any of that lethal injection fancy man carry on, I'm talking about blunt knives and sticks and bear traps and bleeding and horror and oh the humanity and cover them in honey and throw 'em in a pit full of half starved rabid badgers and then see what they think of the Linux desktop experience and while I'm at it you know Gnome and KDE work just fine on BSD and Solaris and just about anywhere that Windows isn't running so we're not really talking about the Linux desktop experience at all, this is bigger than Linux, this is Unix, this is Posix, hell this probably even has something to do with SCO who as we know invented everything or at least thought of it first or maybe IBM thought of it first but are contractually bound not to let you know about it because it might have a deleterious effect on their dwindling market share so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
....I'd like to offer an informed and intelligent opinion.
Usability of Windows vs. anything always seems to be judged by people who are regular Windows users and are curious to try something new and who then criticise the alternative for not being sufficiently intuitive, by which they mean 'I know how to do this in Windows and in KDE/Gnome/OSX/whatever it's different and that's bad because I fear change.'.
Linux offers a much better interface than Windows. I run a shell, I type commands, they do stuff. I don't need to download and install Cygwin to make the machine useful.
All that desktop window dressing is just a means of displaying multiple terminals. Everybody knows that.
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Yeah, cause if you were forced to indent your code it might become slightly more readable which would marginally diminish the obfuscation inherent to all Perl code.
I suspect the initial popularity of Perl was due largely to it having been much better than the alternatives available in the late 1980s. And it's still better than the alternatives that were available in the late 1980s. The continued popularity is driven by an established userbase of guru Perl coders who aren't willing to budge and new users who pick it up because it's so popular it must be good.
I would rather use Java than Perl. And I'd rather be eaten by a crocodile than use Java.
I've replaced a dead battery and a faulty hard-disk and repaired a broken wire which powered the display back-light, all outside warranty at my own expense.
The parts I've purchased (battery and HD) combined cost slightly less than Apple Care would have at the time I bought my iBook, but swapping the HD and fixing the display problem required completely disassembling the iBook, which is actually pretty difficult and, given my lack of technical expertise, could have been disastrous.
I was about to post the same thing. This is a seriously useful book. Some excellent examples which will enabled a C programmer familiar with the standard tools (ummm, GCC and a text editor) to write a skeleton driver and hook it into the kernel in no time. Then all that stands between you and freedom is stealing an intergalactic space craft.
I always figured Gates & Balmer would be first with their backs to the wall when the revolution comes, but I'm starting to think Darl McBride could be a serious contender.
It's a good idea, but while I have a copy of the Linux source right here on the very machine I'm using to type this message, I don't have, nor can I easily aquire, a copy of the SCO code.
Of course if for some reason I found myself in posession of the code which they allege has been copied I'd be spending a whole heap of time diffing and grepping and such like.
I used to walk absolutely everywhere irrespective of the weather. I was thin, healthy and felt good.
I am no longer single and it is very difficult to talk a woman into walking 20kms in the rain when we have a perfectly serviceable car, access to PT and enough disposable income to justify all too frequent use of taxis.
Now I am not so thin, not so healthy and I'm always out of breath when I get to the top of the stairs.
If you have a girlfriend leave her. And start walking.
They could probably be made to run OSX without too much work. There are existing non Apple PPC boards which are reputed to run OSX either stand alone or through MacOnLinx.
The problem is licensing. The EULA for OSX stipulates that OSX may only be run on Apple hardware.
I don't object to paying for software. The problem is that with Microsoft, as with any major vendor of proprietary software, you don't pay for software. You pay for a license to posses and use a single binary copy of the software on the vendor's terms. You don't get the source nor documentation of the file formats for documents created by the software.
Word doesn't do what I want, doesn't run on the OS I choose to use and saves files in a format which can't be reliably read by any software I use.
LaTeX is harder to learn and to use as a beginner, but it produces exactly what I want and if, due to a bug in the code, it failed me I could get the source, fix it and share the solution with other LaTeX users without fear of prosecution.
Incidentally, did you pay for your copy of Word? I've known a lot of people who use Word/Office. I've never met anybody who actually paid for it. I suspect most of Microsoft's revenue comes from OEM installs of Windows on new machines and corporate and govt. site licenses.
I often transfer files to a friend's OS9 Mac from my Linux laptop using HTTP. File transfers the other way are a pain, though I could install netatalk on my laptop or put a simple webserver or ftp server on his machine I suppose. Actually Python has a standard modules for serving http so if I installed Python I could knock up a simple little server, throw in a bit of CGI magic and...... create a really complicated solution where maybe there were simpler alternatives. Still, I will do it right now.
In the office we link Linux PCs and OSX Macs using NFS. Our OSX home dirs are served via NFS from a Linux server and all the Macs automagically mount a big shared repository of apps, files, etc from the Linux box.
And we solve the OS9 and Windows connectivity problems by just not installing those OSes in the first place.
Getting back to the original point, the one thing all OSes are pretty much guaranteed to have in common is TCP/IP and a browser. Browsers are good. You can transfer files. Authentication is not required but is easily added with the likes of Apache.htaccess magic. And once you're connected to the intraweb you can use them to look at naked ladies.
Actually OSX IE was it's OS9 cousin. It's just a carbonised build of the old OS9 app. That's why the interface was so un-Aqua and laughably crapulous and may perhaps have explained it's relative instability.
Mozilla suffered the same problem. They've started building Mach-o binaries now, instead of CFM, but the UI still smacks of Carbon. Ditto versions of Opera I've seen running under OSX.
A gecko browser has less speed potential (among other things) then a native browser.
I really don't understand what you mean here. Gecko is a rendering engine. The code Apple used from Konqueror is a rendering engine. Compile either one under OSX and you have a natively compiled rendering engine.
I'm using an iBook right now. It's great. It sure won't build Intel binaries though. ThinkPad. Used a borrowed one for a little while. Not as sexy as an iBook. Who'd root a laptop anyway? Very solid machine the ol' ThinkPad. I'd seriously consider buying one when the iBook retires.
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The OS does not come free. The license fee is part of the purchase price of the system.
SCO is not trying to compete in the OS market. They are intefering with IBMs move from AIX, for which they pay substantial licensing fees to SCO for use of System V code, to Linux. If IBM ditches AIX for Linux that would put a big hole in SCOs revenue. Consequently SCO have dreamt up the curious notion that they can collect licensing fees for Linux.
It's a scam to enhance shareholder value and to a certain extent, for the time being, it's working.
The amount of energy derived from the sugar in your blood could not exceed the amount of energy in the food you ate to put the sugar in your body in the first place. This is something that bugged me a little with the humans-as-batteries Matrix scenario. All those humans had to be fed something to keep them alive and the food could probably have been converted to power or stored without the use of a human body. Also, why was it necessary to keep the minds of the human batteries alive? Why not just surgically or chemically suppress brain activity or even genetically engineer a new breed of brainless humans (Epsilon Minus Semi-Morons ??) to use as batteries? And why, in the Matrix Reloaded, were agents driving conventional cars able to keep up with Trinity when she was riding a Ducati? Do you have any idea how fast those bikes are? This isn't some Harley cruiser. The acceleration is breathtaking and the top speed is probably somewhere in the vicinity of 300Kmh. I think it was a 996 she was riding. Here are some mouth watering specs I googled for the 996.
Well, without wanting to sound like a ranting crazy man who should be locked up to protect the public, the average user should be killed and I don't mean in a humane way like any of that lethal injection fancy man carry on, I'm talking about blunt knives and sticks and bear traps and bleeding and horror and oh the humanity and cover them in honey and throw 'em in a pit full of half starved rabid badgers and then see what they think of the Linux desktop experience and while I'm at it you know Gnome and KDE work just fine on BSD and Solaris and just about anywhere that Windows isn't running so we're not really talking about the Linux desktop experience at all, this is bigger than Linux, this is Unix, this is Posix, hell this probably even has something to do with SCO who as we know invented everything or at least thought of it first or maybe IBM thought of it first but are contractually bound not to let you know about it because it might have a deleterious effect on their dwindling market share so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
....I'd like to offer an informed and intelligent opinion.
Usability of Windows vs. anything always seems to be judged by people who are regular Windows users and are curious to try something new and who then criticise the alternative for not being sufficiently intuitive, by which they mean 'I know how to do this in Windows and in KDE/Gnome/OSX/whatever it's different and that's bad because I fear change.'.
Linux offers a much better interface than Windows. I run a shell, I type commands, they do stuff. I don't need to download and install Cygwin to make the machine useful.
All that desktop window dressing is just a means of displaying multiple terminals. Everybody knows that.
Yeah, cause if you were forced to indent your code it might become slightly more readable which would marginally diminish the obfuscation inherent to all Perl code.
I suspect the initial popularity of Perl was due largely to it having been much better than the alternatives available in the late 1980s. And it's still better than the alternatives that were available in the late 1980s. The continued popularity is driven by an established userbase of guru Perl coders who aren't willing to budge and new users who pick it up because it's so popular it must be good.
I would rather use Java than Perl. And I'd rather be eaten by a crocodile than use Java.
Didn't I already win this competition?
With my awesome t-shirt design.
Which you can check out right here.
Hazzaaaaa! You da man!
Now GNU-Darwin is a major free software project....
GNU = GPL = Free.
Darwin = APSL = open source.
There's a big difference.
I've replaced a dead battery and a faulty hard-disk and repaired a broken wire which powered the display back-light, all outside warranty at my own expense.
The parts I've purchased (battery and HD) combined cost slightly less than Apple Care would have at the time I bought my iBook, but swapping the HD and fixing the display problem required completely disassembling the iBook, which is actually pretty difficult and, given my lack of technical expertise, could have been disastrous.
Or not. On second thoughts perhaps not a good idea. Still, it's your call.
I was about to post the same thing. This is a seriously useful book. Some excellent examples which will enabled a C programmer familiar with the standard tools (ummm, GCC and a text editor) to write a skeleton driver and hook it into the kernel in no time. Then all that stands between you and freedom is stealing an intergalactic space craft.
I always figured Gates & Balmer would be first with their backs to the wall when the revolution comes, but I'm starting to think Darl McBride could be a serious contender.
It's a good idea, but while I have a copy of the Linux source right here on the very machine I'm using to type this message, I don't have, nor can I easily aquire, a copy of the SCO code.
Of course if for some reason I found myself in posession of the code which they allege has been copied I'd be spending a whole heap of time diffing and grepping and such like.
I used to walk absolutely everywhere irrespective of the weather. I was thin, healthy and felt good.
I am no longer single and it is very difficult to talk a woman into walking 20kms in the rain when we have a perfectly serviceable car, access to PT and enough disposable income to justify all too frequent use of taxis.
Now I am not so thin, not so healthy and I'm always out of breath when I get to the top of the stairs.
If you have a girlfriend leave her. And start walking.
I have absolutely no idea who Anna Falchi is, but thanks to Google I now know what she looks like naked.
Thank you Google.
Thank you Slashdot.
Thank you the Internet.
They could probably be made to run OSX without too much work. There are existing non Apple PPC boards which are reputed to run OSX either stand alone or through MacOnLinx.
The problem is licensing. The EULA for OSX stipulates that OSX may only be run on Apple hardware.
I don't object to paying for software. The problem is that with Microsoft, as with any major vendor of proprietary software, you don't pay for software. You pay for a license to posses and use a single binary copy of the software on the vendor's terms. You don't get the source nor documentation of the file formats for documents created by the software.
Word doesn't do what I want, doesn't run on the OS I choose to use and saves files in a format which can't be reliably read by any software I use.
LaTeX is harder to learn and to use as a beginner, but it produces exactly what I want and if, due to a bug in the code, it failed me I could get the source, fix it and share the solution with other LaTeX users without fear of prosecution.
Incidentally, did you pay for your copy of Word? I've known a lot of people who use Word/Office. I've never met anybody who actually paid for it. I suspect most of Microsoft's revenue comes from OEM installs of Windows on new machines and corporate and govt. site licenses.
HTTP is probably your best bet.
...... create a really complicated solution where maybe there were simpler alternatives. Still, I will do it right now.
.htaccess magic. And once you're connected to the intraweb you can use them to look at naked ladies.
I often transfer files to a friend's OS9 Mac from my Linux laptop using HTTP. File transfers the other way are a pain, though I could install netatalk on my laptop or put a simple webserver or ftp server on his machine I suppose. Actually Python has a standard modules for serving http so if I installed Python I could knock up a simple little server, throw in a bit of CGI magic and
In the office we link Linux PCs and OSX Macs using NFS. Our OSX home dirs are served via NFS from a Linux server and all the Macs automagically mount a big shared repository of apps, files, etc from the Linux box.
And we solve the OS9 and Windows connectivity problems by just not installing those OSes in the first place.
Getting back to the original point, the one thing all OSes are pretty much guaranteed to have in common is TCP/IP and a browser. Browsers are good. You can transfer files. Authentication is not required but is easily added with the likes of Apache
I'm sure I'll bear that in mind when Microsoft releases a GPL version of Office that runs on Linux. In the meantime I think I'll stick with LaTeX.
Also, that would be 'easier' or perhaps 'more easy'.
Actually OSX IE was it's OS9 cousin. It's just a carbonised build of the old OS9 app. That's why the interface was so un-Aqua and laughably crapulous and may perhaps have explained it's relative instability.
Mozilla suffered the same problem. They've started building Mach-o binaries now, instead of CFM, but the UI still smacks of Carbon. Ditto versions of Opera I've seen running under OSX.
A gecko browser has less speed potential (among other things) then a native browser.
I really don't understand what you mean here. Gecko is a rendering engine. The code Apple used from Konqueror is a rendering engine. Compile either one under OSX and you have a natively compiled rendering engine.
And then we could change the name of the language to ++ since it would no longer be a superset of C.
Objective C is not an attempt to enhance C++. It is an object oriented extension to C which borrows a lot of good things from Smalltalk.
One mouse button?
My iBook has five buttons and a scroll wheel all right here on this little USB mouse I've got plugged into it. You must have bought the wrong model.
I'm using an iBook right now. It's great.
It sure won't build Intel binaries though.
ThinkPad. Used a borrowed one for a little while.
Not as sexy as an iBook. Who'd root a laptop anyway?
Very solid machine the ol' ThinkPad.
I'd seriously consider buying one when the iBook retires.
paralell port?