I am really unable to see how this would work. It is a great idea, but if it was just you and some others that started handing these to prospective employers, they simply wouldn't hire you.
I don't work in the computer industry at all so I cannot claim do know exactly how it works, but I have trouble imagining a company signing something like this unless it was drawn up by their lawyers, and allowed them to exploit the situation in their interests, and not the employee. After all, they are the ones that hold all of the cards. You are just a prospective employee, and there are plenty of them around that won't tell them they have to sign this document...
Not to say that this isn't a really good idea. I just feel that you cannot offer something like this for an employer to voluntarily sign on an individual-employee basis. Why would they do something like this unless they absolutely had to?
If you were part of a computer industy-wide union, it would be different. If it was in a union/company contract, then it would be manditory that the company sign it upon hiring you or anybody else.
I am guessing that a vast majority of people in the computer industry probably do not want to be unionized, and that is fine. I am not saying that it is the only way or even the best way to go. I just don't think that you can get something like this accepted without that amount of bargaining power to back you up.--
Sure, free speech and individual thought are nice programs in and of themselves or whatever, but upon doing further studying of the scientology program packages one finds that it also removes any and all versions of money you have installed.
Warning, this also includes any money derivitives such as stock, bond, paycheck, cash, and has even been known in some instances to empty user bank account directories as well.
(Kind of reminds you of middle ages, where Roman Catholics only those who could afford it... Same as many of the "popular" CULTS and televangelists seem to do today. Sometimes it seems like everybody who wants to save my soul also wants to aquire more money than God...)
I guess I will remain a pagan because salvation is too expensive:)
I don't mean to insinuate that this is a troll, but is there any chance somebody could post the relevent link to the msnbc article on this? I searched for "xboy" and came up with nothing. Also a brief browsing of the xbox articles themselves didn't show any mention of this system.
Like I said, my search was brief so I may have just missed it, but it would be much easier to take this article at face value if it had the article it apparently quotes linked url-wise.
My apologies if I did miss something blatently obvious. If I did point it out, as I would like to see the original article. Heck, maybe this is supposed to be funny and I am just lacking in sense of humour today...
Microsoft may not be holding up anyting intentionally, but there users are unknowingly holding this up if what you say is correct. There are WAY more people running Windows9x/Millenium than there are people running Win2k.
Also, Whistler of course may be an operating system, but it is not a RELEASED operating system market-and-consumer-wise. It is still beta software, and will have to go final and be on store shelves before Joe Windows9x User even knows that it exists, let alone decides to upgrade to it/buy a new computer with it pre installed.
Anyhow, that all means MS has released a total of two OS's to consumers since 2000. ONE of them has built in IPv6 support. One DOESN'T. That doesn't add up to all of them. Of course, you actually pointed this out yourself...... So why are you even bothering to counter FUD with more FUD?
Sure, being able to play backups of console games would make me more likely to buy the console, and probably sells more consoles with the net and technology savvy crowd, but what do you think it does to the sales of the actual GAMES?
If a third party developer's games don't sell well on a certain console system, the developer probably won't support said system for very long...
Now consider the fact that most console systems seem to be sold at a loss that must be recuperated with game and licensing fees by the console maker, and you can see the problem.
Having a millions of console sales is great, but if you don't get the millions of games sold to go along with it, the console will become a failed venture in the eyes of the developers and eventually even the console maker's stockholders.
For windows I believe it is the hosts file, which is c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (hosts being the filename) on my win2k box. All windows versions use the hosts file, though for win9x i think they are located elsewhere. Maybe just in c:\windows even.
I have not seen Orguss, but I have watched Orguss 02, which I assume is the second Orguss series and thought it wasn't too too bad.
You can actually view Orguss 02 on the web. It is dubbed, but I still found it fun to watch. You can find Orguss 02, as well as some other short series or single episodes that have all been released by Manga Entertainment in North America at this site ( http://www.sputnik7.com/vod/anime/index.jsp ).
Sure, all the anime that is there is dubbed, and you must be able to play Real media files or Microsoft.asf's, but the fact that it seems to be legit through a partnership between Sputnik7 Manga Entertainment or the like makes it pretty cool in my opinion. Free anime can't be an entirely bad idea:)
I didn't have a computer during the wolfenstien era, but I sure did spend too much time gibbing everybody's favorite purple dinosaur with the the BarnyDoom mod:).
Well, I am really supposed to keep my mouth shut, but I will tell you one thing. Don't tell anyone else, ok?...Not only does the new Doom have barrels *and* crates, but it has radioactive and explosive barrels *and* crates!
You can tell by my blatent overuse of bold and italics that these two technologies combined obviously represent a tremedous leap forward in how we play computer games!
I wish the blinking tag worked so I could explain this better :-(
Liscencing fees for the BC technology will start with the sale of your soul and go up from there.
Sounds like Black Heaven to me. The Japanese title i think may be "Kacho Oji" but I could be way off. I know it is anime, but I am not sure if it was inspired or based on manga or just an original animation.
I like anime. I like comic books. I like wine sometimes. Same with beer.
You know what I have found about liking something? You start off by pretty much loving everything you can get your hands on of it, but then after a while you start to develop a more discerning taste.
For instance, when I started reading comics a few years ago, I read anything and everything I had money to buy. I ended up collecting a few series that I now recall in hindsight as pretty much being utter mainstream crap. Now my taste in comic books is a bit more honed and I tend to pick up less mainstream series and more collected series on non superhero stuff such as Sin City, Bone, Transmetropolitan, and so on. As my grasp of comics as a whole broaden, my tastes in comics slowly became more acute, so that I focus on what I love, and ignore what I feel may be crap.
Anime is the same way. I have been watching various anime for a few years now, and my idea of what I like and look fore has narrowed down. I still watch the crap from time to time, because here in North America we are limited to what has been imported and translated generally. Since I am guessing most of us don't have a firm grasp of Japanese (baka!?!), it can be hard to get around this. But I still manage to find more stuff I like then stuff I dislike. I guess that is why I like anime so much and didn't just give up and look for something else...
Now with wine and beer, I like pretty much anything I can get my hands on (especially after I have already had a few, but that is another story). My taste for these two alcoholic beverages is fairly new, so I am unable to discern between what is just alright and what is really, really good. My father knows much more about wines and talks about zinfandel and bordeaux and all I can ask in response are simple things such as whether the wine is white or red, dry or sweet, and if I am feeling especially intellectual, what year it was bottled in.
My point is when you first get into liking any art form or cultural genre or beverage, if you enjoy what you see or imbibe, you enjoy pretty much anything you see or imbibe. As you are exposed to more and varied of the sub forms and such, you begin to develop a taste of your own, and start to decide what you want more of and what you will avoid like the plague. Anime may be an old idea to some by now, but many of us are just getting our first sip. I mean first taste. I mean first view of the animation style from the culture that actually developed it.
you want an impotent OS that can't do anything illegal even if you wanted to than go to Win98."
This is not true. When I last ran Windows98, MANY of the operations it performed were illegal.
Luckily, soon after the illegal operations were performed, screens of blue showed up and closed everything down, forcing a reboot of all operations.
Are you absolutely sure it is going to be open source? I have rather large doubts of that. I think it will be modifiable to the extent that id's games are, but not totally "here is the game, here is all the code for it" sort of thing. I have never heard that in my following of the news.
"Major snoops and people who are that invasive about information use should be deprived from it for the very reason that the asked for it!"
I wish that would work.
The reason people generally want to look over everybody else's shoulder in situations like this is because they don't have enough information on computers/the interenet and how and why they are used in the first place. Then they hear about how it can be abused and how it is 'blackening hearts' and decide that they must protect us from ourselves.
If people would research things on their own instead of getting all riled up over some questionable statistics and soundbites this would happen less often than it does.
I am glad my parents allowed me to make many of my own moral decisions, instead of peeping in on what me and my friends(!) were doing every single minute of every single day. Of course my parents were confident that they had taught me enough to could make reasonable judgements on my own. I may have not always chosen correctly society-wise, but I also never did anything to get thrown in prison either. Not by a long shot.
This father obviously does't trust his son or his son's friend any further than he can throw them. If he is that worried, he should be homeschooling his son and sheltering him from every little evil imagined or otherwise.
Keeping a tight reign on your sons and daughters is one thing, you don't have to become a paranoid schizophrenic over whether or not they are spending every single second obeying the law to the letter and being upstanding citizens that we all hope they will be.
Also, I am annoyed even more over the fact that this man is allowed to view the logfiles pertaining to everyone who used a computer at the school. If he absolutely had to view logs, they should have been limited to the times at which it could be proven his son was the user.
More than anything, I think this father needs to be reminded that he too was a kid once, and that he probably stuck his hands in the proverbial cookie jar himself every once in a while. Does he really think he ended up worse off for that freedom?
"The male lead looks like he's fresh from a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers casting call. It just seems "seriously wrong"."
Actually, that would be the actor that also played the dumb twit of a newsie Jimmy Olsen in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman a while back.
I really have no clue why anybody would want to use him in anything more substantial than a toothpaste ad, but I guess that is just me.
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Making this a law sort of scares me. Aren't PDA's coming to the point of being highly useful as a laptop replacement?
Also, do you have a choice on which laptop you get and who you buy it from? There is a technical institute where I live in Calgary, Canada where some engineering students have to buy a laptop through the school. This of course bloated the price rather extensively from what I have heard.
So, how long would it take before some of the universities started doing the same thing? Or even worse, what happens if they do that but only allow you to sign a high priced lease agreement on the laptop?
And to add paranoia to that last part, who owns the rights to the laptop then? Who would decide what you are and are not allowed to do with the laptop then? You or them?
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Note: This is not as refined and lucid as it should be, but it may still have a point. Just don't hold your breath.
Let me start off by saying to consider me any sort of enginneer would be laughable, so I may have this completely wrong.
While I read the posts made by people in this discussion, I tried to relate the idea to other forms of media.
Reverse engineering a program means pulling it apart to see how it works on the inside, but how would that translate with a movie, music, or book? To me it would seem that in these mediums reverse enginneering is quite common. You could deconstuct or analyze any of these and in the underlying basic "code" you would end up with a very general principal containing characters, plot, theme, etc.
As a wanna-be writer, I try and deconstuct everything I take in, be it the movie I watched last night, the book I was reading this morning, or the song I listened to on the way to work. I try and get a feel for what the artist is saying through their work. And sometimes you need more information then is placed directly in front of you order to do that. In order to see the larger picture of what is going on you may have to read between the lines a little. . .
Hell, one of the things that makes a piece of media meaningful to me is when I find it so profound and engaging that I start to wonder "how did they come to that conclusion?". I may even take it a step further and think: "what if this happened? What would the effect be then?"
To me, that directly correlates with what I believe is the basic purpose and goal of reverse engineering. Screwing around with things leads to a better understanding and somtimes a greater appreiciation of how things work. It also allows for greater innovation and improvement. If nobody understood the underlying principle of the wheel, would we as a species ever have progressed to where we are now?
The Entertainment industry does everything I do with movies, books, and music, only they even take it a step further. Heard any pop music that didn't sound like other pop music lately? Or watch a "blockbuster" summer disaster movie that was unlike any other? I swear, it seems like some of those flicks even use the same dog, which somehow always manages to make it to safety while other actual characters perish in patriotic, sacrificing, or possibly deserving ways.
I may not like how much of the movies, music, and books all end up feeling the same tired, cliche idea borrowed from other movies, music, and books. That doesn't make me file a lawsuit against anybody in the entertainment industry though.
If I remember correctly, the premise for "Survivor" was hardly original. Did the "oringal" creater of the idea recieve any royalty checks from the American Producers? Did he have his name in the end credits? Better yet: did they bother to even try sending a cease and decist letter upon hearing of the American "hack" of their idea?
This entire post may just be a mindless leap to the wrong conclusion, but I do believe it also goes some way in explaining why the acronyms of the month (MPAA/RIAA/DMCA/whatever) say lines of computer code differ from lines of other media in the fact they are not speech.
If they did treat it the same as other media, they would be far greater hypacrites then all of us that use the protocol of the month (Napster/Gnutella/HTTP) to fight the power in the name of the artist. Hell, they would be far greater pirates as well.
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I am really unable to see how this would work. It is a great idea, but if it was just you and some others that started handing these to prospective employers, they simply wouldn't hire you. I don't work in the computer industry at all so I cannot claim do know exactly how it works, but I have trouble imagining a company signing something like this unless it was drawn up by their lawyers, and allowed them to exploit the situation in their interests, and not the employee. After all, they are the ones that hold all of the cards. You are just a prospective employee, and there are plenty of them around that won't tell them they have to sign this document... Not to say that this isn't a really good idea. I just feel that you cannot offer something like this for an employer to voluntarily sign on an individual-employee basis. Why would they do something like this unless they absolutely had to? If you were part of a computer industy-wide union, it would be different. If it was in a union/company contract, then it would be manditory that the company sign it upon hiring you or anybody else. I am guessing that a vast majority of people in the computer industry probably do not want to be unionized, and that is fine. I am not saying that it is the only way or even the best way to go. I just don't think that you can get something like this accepted without that amount of bargaining power to back you up.--
Sure, free speech and individual thought are nice programs in and of themselves or whatever, but upon doing further studying of the scientology program packages one finds that it also removes any and all versions of money you have installed. Warning, this also includes any money derivitives such as stock, bond, paycheck, cash, and has even been known in some instances to empty user bank account directories as well. (Kind of reminds you of middle ages, where Roman Catholics only those who could afford it... Same as many of the "popular" CULTS and televangelists seem to do today. Sometimes it seems like everybody who wants to save my soul also wants to aquire more money than God...) I guess I will remain a pagan because salvation is too expensive :)
Why give a comment on the post? It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really... (first flame?)
I don't mean to insinuate that this is a troll, but is there any chance somebody could post the relevent link to the msnbc article on this? I searched for "xboy" and came up with nothing. Also a brief browsing of the xbox articles themselves didn't show any mention of this system. Like I said, my search was brief so I may have just missed it, but it would be much easier to take this article at face value if it had the article it apparently quotes linked url-wise. My apologies if I did miss something blatently obvious. If I did point it out, as I would like to see the original article. Heck, maybe this is supposed to be funny and I am just lacking in sense of humour today...
Microsoft may not be holding up anyting intentionally, but there users are unknowingly holding this up if what you say is correct. There are WAY more people running Windows9x/Millenium than there are people running Win2k. Also, Whistler of course may be an operating system, but it is not a RELEASED operating system market-and-consumer-wise. It is still beta software, and will have to go final and be on store shelves before Joe Windows9x User even knows that it exists, let alone decides to upgrade to it/buy a new computer with it pre installed. Anyhow, that all means MS has released a total of two OS's to consumers since 2000. ONE of them has built in IPv6 support. One DOESN'T. That doesn't add up to all of them. Of course, you actually pointed this out yourself... ... So why are you even bothering to counter FUD with more FUD?
Sure, being able to play backups of console games would make me more likely to buy the console, and probably sells more consoles with the net and technology savvy crowd, but what do you think it does to the sales of the actual GAMES? If a third party developer's games don't sell well on a certain console system, the developer probably won't support said system for very long... Now consider the fact that most console systems seem to be sold at a loss that must be recuperated with game and licensing fees by the console maker, and you can see the problem. Having a millions of console sales is great, but if you don't get the millions of games sold to go along with it, the console will become a failed venture in the eyes of the developers and eventually even the console maker's stockholders.
For windows I believe it is the hosts file, which is c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (hosts being the filename) on my win2k box. All windows versions use the hosts file, though for win9x i think they are located elsewhere. Maybe just in c:\windows even.
I have not seen Orguss, but I have watched Orguss 02, which I assume is the second Orguss series and thought it wasn't too too bad. You can actually view Orguss 02 on the web. It is dubbed, but I still found it fun to watch. You can find Orguss 02, as well as some other short series or single episodes that have all been released by Manga Entertainment in North America at this site ( http://www.sputnik7.com/vod/anime/index.jsp ). Sure, all the anime that is there is dubbed, and you must be able to play Real media files or Microsoft .asf's, but the fact that it seems to be legit through a partnership between Sputnik7 Manga Entertainment or the like makes it pretty cool in my opinion. Free anime can't be an entirely bad idea :)
I didn't have a computer during the wolfenstien era, but I sure did spend too much time gibbing everybody's favorite purple dinosaur with the the BarnyDoom mod :).
Of course. It is just coming out on Macs first apparently. No big deal.
Well, I am really supposed to keep my mouth shut, but I will tell you one thing. Don't tell anyone else, ok? ...Not only does the new Doom have barrels *and* crates, but it has radioactive and explosive barrels *and* crates!
You can tell by my blatent overuse of bold and italics that these two technologies combined obviously represent a tremedous leap forward in how we play computer games !
I wish the blinking tag worked so I could explain this better :-(
Liscencing fees for the BC technology will start with the sale of your soul and go up from there.
Thank you for the correction. It was not very smart of me to post it in the first place before I had even read the interview.
Sounds like Black Heaven to me. The Japanese title i think may be "Kacho Oji" but I could be way off. I know it is anime, but I am not sure if it was inspired or based on manga or just an original animation.
I like anime. I like comic books. I like wine sometimes. Same with beer. You know what I have found about liking something? You start off by pretty much loving everything you can get your hands on of it, but then after a while you start to develop a more discerning taste. For instance, when I started reading comics a few years ago, I read anything and everything I had money to buy. I ended up collecting a few series that I now recall in hindsight as pretty much being utter mainstream crap. Now my taste in comic books is a bit more honed and I tend to pick up less mainstream series and more collected series on non superhero stuff such as Sin City, Bone, Transmetropolitan, and so on. As my grasp of comics as a whole broaden, my tastes in comics slowly became more acute, so that I focus on what I love, and ignore what I feel may be crap. Anime is the same way. I have been watching various anime for a few years now, and my idea of what I like and look fore has narrowed down. I still watch the crap from time to time, because here in North America we are limited to what has been imported and translated generally. Since I am guessing most of us don't have a firm grasp of Japanese (baka!?!), it can be hard to get around this. But I still manage to find more stuff I like then stuff I dislike. I guess that is why I like anime so much and didn't just give up and look for something else... Now with wine and beer, I like pretty much anything I can get my hands on (especially after I have already had a few, but that is another story). My taste for these two alcoholic beverages is fairly new, so I am unable to discern between what is just alright and what is really, really good. My father knows much more about wines and talks about zinfandel and bordeaux and all I can ask in response are simple things such as whether the wine is white or red, dry or sweet, and if I am feeling especially intellectual, what year it was bottled in. My point is when you first get into liking any art form or cultural genre or beverage, if you enjoy what you see or imbibe, you enjoy pretty much anything you see or imbibe. As you are exposed to more and varied of the sub forms and such, you begin to develop a taste of your own, and start to decide what you want more of and what you will avoid like the plague. Anime may be an old idea to some by now, but many of us are just getting our first sip. I mean first taste. I mean first view of the animation style from the culture that actually developed it.
you want an impotent OS that can't do anything illegal even if you wanted to than go to Win98." This is not true. When I last ran Windows98, MANY of the operations it performed were illegal. Luckily, soon after the illegal operations were performed, screens of blue showed up and closed everything down, forcing a reboot of all operations.
Are you absolutely sure it is going to be open source? I have rather large doubts of that. I think it will be modifiable to the extent that id's games are, but not totally "here is the game, here is all the code for it" sort of thing. I have never heard that in my following of the news.
So what happens if an ant attempts a jump from orbit? And what if Bugs Bunny hands the ant an anvil instead of a chute?
Making this a law sort of scares me. Aren't PDA's coming to the point of being highly useful as a laptop replacement? Also, do you have a choice on which laptop you get and who you buy it from? There is a technical institute where I live in Calgary, Canada where some engineering students have to buy a laptop through the school. This of course bloated the price rather extensively from what I have heard. So, how long would it take before some of the universities started doing the same thing? Or even worse, what happens if they do that but only allow you to sign a high priced lease agreement on the laptop? And to add paranoia to that last part, who owns the rights to the laptop then? Who would decide what you are and are not allowed to do with the laptop then? You or them? -----
Note: This is not as refined and lucid as it should be, but it may still have a point. Just don't hold your breath.
Let me start off by saying to consider me any sort of enginneer would be laughable, so I may have this completely wrong.
While I read the posts made by people in this discussion, I tried to relate the idea to other forms of media.
Reverse engineering a program means pulling it apart to see how it works on the inside, but how would that translate with a movie, music, or book? To me it would seem that in these mediums reverse enginneering is quite common. You could deconstuct or analyze any of these and in the underlying basic "code" you would end up with a very general principal containing characters, plot, theme, etc.
As a wanna-be writer, I try and deconstuct everything I take in, be it the movie I watched last night, the book I was reading this morning, or the song I listened to on the way to work. I try and get a feel for what the artist is saying through their work. And sometimes you need more information then is placed directly in front of you order to do that. In order to see the larger picture of what is going on you may have to read between the lines a little. . .
Hell, one of the things that makes a piece of media meaningful to me is when I find it so profound and engaging that I start to wonder "how did they come to that conclusion?". I may even take it a step further and think: "what if this happened? What would the effect be then?"
To me, that directly correlates with what I believe is the basic purpose and goal of reverse engineering. Screwing around with things leads to a better understanding and somtimes a greater appreiciation of how things work. It also allows for greater innovation and improvement. If nobody understood the underlying principle of the wheel, would we as a species ever have progressed to where we are now?
The Entertainment industry does everything I do with movies, books, and music, only they even take it a step further. Heard any pop music that didn't sound like other pop music lately? Or watch a "blockbuster" summer disaster movie that was unlike any other? I swear, it seems like some of those flicks even use the same dog, which somehow always manages to make it to safety while other actual characters perish in patriotic, sacrificing, or possibly deserving ways.
I may not like how much of the movies, music, and books all end up feeling the same tired, cliche idea borrowed from other movies, music, and books. That doesn't make me file a lawsuit against anybody in the entertainment industry though.
If I remember correctly, the premise for "Survivor" was hardly original. Did the "oringal" creater of the idea recieve any royalty checks from the American Producers? Did he have his name in the end credits? Better yet: did they bother to even try sending a cease and decist letter upon hearing of the American "hack" of their idea?
This entire post may just be a mindless leap to the wrong conclusion, but I do believe it also goes some way in explaining why the acronyms of the month (MPAA/RIAA/DMCA/whatever) say lines of computer code differ from lines of other media in the fact they are not speech.
If they did treat it the same as other media, they would be far greater hypacrites then all of us that use the protocol of the month (Napster/Gnutella/HTTP) to fight the power in the name of the artist. Hell, they would be far greater pirates as well.
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