In all my years of having girlfriends and frequenting slashdot, I've never had a girlfriend that TALKED! Occasionally they whistle, but that's escaping air from a leak and you have to buy another. You could plug her with duct tape, but that's just sick. I'll have to check around and see if I can find one of these new models for myself!
I have one of the Gateway 6971 all-in-ones. I paid the $15 or whatever to get the Windows 8 upgrade. My computer before this one was a 24 inch iMac I'd had for 5 years. I have to say that I don't regret the change at all. When it comes to reading a website, I'm more likely to reach up and scroll than even use the scroll wheel on the mouse. When I'm playing music or watching videos, I don't have to be sitting at my computer desk. All I have to be able to do is touch the screen. The article is right. It complements the mouse and keyboard and allows for more relaxed use of the computer.
There are several reasons why I've chosen proprietary in the past over open source. There are reasons why I'm running Mac OS X instead of Linux, and why I use the Gimp instead of Photoshop.
First, the price of the software has something to do with it. I can't see spending $100 or more on a piece of software unless it's the OS itself. This is a what I do when I'm not at work, not a paying job. So, if it's a question between a free Gimp, where things are often hard to do, some features are missing, etc. and hundreds for Photoshop, there is no question. I go with free because proprietary isn't affordable.
But, if it's the choice of a sub-$100 program and open source, there are several factors:
1. Does the software have the features I'm looking for RIGHT NOW?
I'm not talking about developers talking about adding the features. I'm not talking about poorly implemented features that they promise to get working well in the future. Can the software do what I want it to do right now? If the proprietary version I'm trying to communicate with is using a protocol and your software is using an outdated/works sometimes or with interaction on their behalf protocol....are you really an option?
2. How does the software LOOK?
Sit down and look at open source vs. proprietary solutions sometimes. Open source software often looks like a flashback to the 80s, while the proprietary is clean, crisp and beautiful. Fonts and UI add to your everyday enjoyment.
3. How easy is it to use vs. proprietary?
I don't want to learn a special scripting language to use a piece of software. I don't want to go through 10 steps to accomplish what I can in one with the proprietary solution. I don't want to have to google and then edit text files to accomplish what reading a prompt and clicking or checkmarking cïan do in a proprietary solution.
These things are all worth money to me. As long as they are, there will be cases where I chose proprietary over open source. I'm not a long bearded, hawaiian shirt wearing activist screaming "Free as in beer". I'm a person who uses his computer to do things and enjoy himself. The easier it is to do those things and the more pleasurable the experience, the more I enjoy myself.
There's something about children which seems to turn people's brains off, allowing them to both spout and believe unbelievably stupid statements without recognizing them as such. Must be some kind of hormonal thing.
Actually, I think there is something about people who have never had children thinking that they know it all and are great fonts of wisdom. Then, they get a kid and realize that they don't know jack...or they choose not to vaccinate their kids. I see why you're so defensive..
Unless you happen to be a medical expert of sufficient calibre to run the experiments yourself, you rely on others to supply you accurate knowledge about the subject.
Yes, but if you decide People Magazine, the internet, or whatever is more trustworthy than your pediatrician, you are not responsible enough to have kids - at the very least, you need to change pediatricians.
This isn't a case of people not knowing, this is a case of people making a choice: they choose not to vaccinate their children. They risk their children's lives because of something they've read on the net or wherever else instead of listening to the advice of practically any pediatrician they come into contact with. Again, these people should have their children taken away from them.
When it comes to something that may seriously harm your child, whether it be vaccines or the illnesses the vaccines prevent against, it is your responsibility as a parent to not go off half-cocked and to make extremely sure that you have all the facts before you make a decision regarding the welfare of your child. If you're not up to that responsibility, then you shouldn't have custody of your kids. Plain and simple.
Exactly. The issue here wasn't whether Firefox would work or not. The issue here was he was told not to use it and refused to comply.
There really is no difference here between this and a student saying "No, I've decided I'm not going to get on the school bus to go to the field trip. I met this awesome guy in the bathroom of the mall and I'm going with him in his car instead".
All I know is that I'm 36 and have never been particularly graceful with sending text messages. They always took a long time. I tried a fixed keyboard instead of a numeric and it didn't seem to help all that much. The Iphone keyboard seems to be perfect for me. I don't have to worry if I pressed hard enough. I don't have to worry what letters 9 is. I can just type my text and get it over with.
You act like bsd is comparable to linux for the average end user. It's not. Ok...so say I wanted to run BSD instead of linux. Can I pop in an install dvd, have all of my hardware recognized and configured, and be dropped into kde or gnome, depending on what I chose?
Do I have nice programs available from the default install like SuSE or Fedora give me...so I don't have to use the command line and can take care of my machine from the GUI?
Your average non-geek user doesn't want to spend a large portion of his time using his computer working with config files trying to get things working right. They just want it to work. The free BSDs lose those people to Mac OS or linux.....not the other way around, no matter what developer issues are out there. You have to remember, the average user is not a developer.
I was on the forums for Lonelygirl15. I met a girl there and we started talking. A couple of months later she moved across the country to move in with me. We're now engaged. I have to say though, on a lot of internet forums and chat rooms, you have nothing to distract you. It's ALL about conversation. I probably knew more about her when she came than I did ANY girlfriend I met the traditional way.
Is this the same Bonita that used to do webcam chat and has braids in her hair? Her last name rhymes with randy? I find it hard to believe there are two in the same place.
If you say you have had no problems with it, then you really shouldn't start off your next sentence about a bug that's a show stopper for you and caused you to reinstall the previous OS.
If it is, then you should blame Redhat, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. for adding these patches first...way before SuSE.
While you're at it, blame Gnome and Michael Icaza for Mono....surely THAT is worse than these patches..AND he had an agreement with Microsoft to develop it!
Read the article. This functionality has been available in Debian, Fedora Core, and Ubuntu already. SuSE is just finally adding it...a little behind the others. So, tell me again how this is Microsoft playing a trick...by distracting SuSE from patching so they're the last one to implement what may be an important feature to businesses?
I understand people hate Microsoft. But, how is this any different than the mono project and their microsoft deal?
Microsoft advertises on slashdot as well.
Microsoft is, in the end, just a company. It may be a monopoly, but it is just a company. It's not going to destroy linux if one company makes a deal with another one. Linux is an operating system that spans MANY companies. If anything, this may get linux into more of those pro-windows IT shops. The ones that aren't pro-windows won't care about the deal either way.
It just seems odd to me that people are foaming at the mouth over this.
You know, it gets to me when Americans think it's cute or right to stick these people back in igloos or teepees (depending on the climate) and telling them to suffer through life the same as their ancestors did.
You're not suffering like your ancestors did. So, why should they?
A lot of these indigenous people have snowmobiles now...they're a vast improvement over sled dogs. They have heaters and all the luxuries of home. You know what? THEY LIKE IT.
I heard...I think on NPR...the other day about these indigenous people and global warming. They were like "Hey! We're looking forward to it! We all need jobs and this would allow money to come into our area"
I was born in 1970. I had the normal toys for that time period....tonka trucks, weebles, those little balsa gliders...
What I remember most about my childhood is being bored out of my mind. Sure, I had toys and I'd play with them. But, after 30 minutes, you're sick of rolling a truck around on the ground. Weebles wobble....but after about 5 minutes you really don't care. I wanted toys that would DO something. This required batteries though...and batteries would wear down..leaving the toy sitting around.
I remember me and my friends sitting around just long enough to figure out who in the neighborhood would let us into the air conditioned house....then going there and sitting down...hopefully watching TV.
The Atari 2600 was a GODSEND. I don't blame these kids today. I envy them. I wish that was MY childhood
You know, I heard all the hype about Ubuntu. I heard how great it was, how it was the microsoft killer..so I downloaded and installed Kubuntu which, according to them, was ubuntu with kde.
ummm yeah. It may be great for the slackware crowd, but Ubuntu is NOWHERE near the stability and ease of use of SuSE or Redhat. Just the configuration tools in Redhat and SuSE set them far far apart from ubuntu.
If you don't want a clean and polished interface...if you don't want centralized configuration that does the job and does it well...if you don't want consistency across the desktop....then yes, Ubuntu is for you!
I'm just waiting to see everyone saying that slackware is going to take the desktop market by storm now...
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Ok... two observations:
1. Ain't nobody got time for that!
2. Who, reading this article on slashdot, would not find a way to plugin and use their electronics while camping for an entire week?
In all my years of having girlfriends and frequenting slashdot, I've never had a girlfriend that TALKED! Occasionally they whistle, but that's escaping air from a leak and you have to buy another. You could plug her with duct tape, but that's just sick. I'll have to check around and see if I can find one of these new models for myself!
Thank God my hearing isn't worth a crap and I don't have yet another thing to geek over.
As long as Frank Sinatra doesn't sound like Donald Duck, I'm cool with it.
I have one of the Gateway 6971 all-in-ones. I paid the $15 or whatever to get the Windows 8 upgrade. My computer before this one was a 24 inch iMac I'd had for 5 years. I have to say that I don't regret the change at all. When it comes to reading a website, I'm more likely to reach up and scroll than even use the scroll wheel on the mouse. When I'm playing music or watching videos, I don't have to be sitting at my computer desk. All I have to be able to do is touch the screen. The article is right. It complements the mouse and keyboard and allows for more relaxed use of the computer.
There are several reasons why I've chosen proprietary in the past over open source. There are reasons why I'm running Mac OS X instead of Linux, and why I use the Gimp instead of Photoshop.
First, the price of the software has something to do with it. I can't see spending $100 or more on a piece of software unless it's the OS itself. This is a what I do when I'm not at work, not a paying job. So, if it's a question between a free Gimp, where things are often hard to do, some features are missing, etc. and hundreds for Photoshop, there is no question. I go with free because proprietary isn't affordable.
But, if it's the choice of a sub-$100 program and open source, there are several factors:
1. Does the software have the features I'm looking for RIGHT NOW?
I'm not talking about developers talking about adding the features. I'm not talking about poorly implemented features that they promise to get working well in the future. Can the software do what I want it to do right now? If the proprietary version I'm trying to communicate with is using a protocol and your software is using an outdated/works sometimes or with interaction on their behalf protocol....are you really an option?
2. How does the software LOOK?
Sit down and look at open source vs. proprietary solutions sometimes. Open source software often looks like a flashback to the 80s, while the proprietary is clean, crisp and beautiful. Fonts and UI add to your everyday enjoyment.
3. How easy is it to use vs. proprietary?
I don't want to learn a special scripting language to use a piece of software. I don't want to go through 10 steps to accomplish what I can in one with the proprietary solution. I don't want to have to google and then edit text files to accomplish what reading a prompt and clicking or checkmarking cïan do in a proprietary solution.
These things are all worth money to me. As long as they are, there will be cases where I chose proprietary over open source. I'm not a long bearded, hawaiian shirt wearing activist screaming "Free as in beer". I'm a person who uses his computer to do things and enjoy himself. The easier it is to do those things and the more pleasurable the experience, the more I enjoy myself.
Pshhhh haven't you heard? Gravity is just a theory....
Actually, I think there is something about people who have never had children thinking that they know it all and are great fonts of wisdom. Then, they get a kid and realize that they don't know jack...or they choose not to vaccinate their kids. I see why you're so defensive..
Yes, but if you decide People Magazine, the internet, or whatever is more trustworthy than your pediatrician, you are not responsible enough to have kids - at the very least, you need to change pediatricians.
This isn't a case of people not knowing, this is a case of people making a choice: they choose not to vaccinate their children. They risk their children's lives because of something they've read on the net or wherever else instead of listening to the advice of practically any pediatrician they come into contact with. Again, these people should have their children taken away from them.
When it comes to something that may seriously harm your child, whether it be vaccines or the illnesses the vaccines prevent against, it is your responsibility as a parent to not go off half-cocked and to make extremely sure that you have all the facts before you make a decision regarding the welfare of your child. If you're not up to that responsibility, then you shouldn't have custody of your kids. Plain and simple.
*Father*
Awesome PETA, do you now recognize the fact you've taken your hypocrisy to a whole new level now by sponsoring animal testing?
Maybe now they'll stop sponsoring ALF and blowing up labs...yeah, right.
Exactly. The issue here wasn't whether Firefox would work or not. The issue here was he was told not to use it and refused to comply.
There really is no difference here between this and a student saying "No, I've decided I'm not going to get on the school bus to go to the field trip. I met this awesome guy in the bathroom of the mall and I'm going with him in his car instead".
All I know is that I'm 36 and have never been particularly graceful with sending text messages. They always took a long time. I tried a fixed keyboard instead of a numeric and it didn't seem to help all that much. The Iphone keyboard seems to be perfect for me. I don't have to worry if I pressed hard enough. I don't have to worry what letters 9 is. I can just type my text and get it over with.
I can understand a week, but honestly...if you're leaving your customers vulnerable for over a month, they might start looking elsewhere
Exploits should be a high concern for any company
You act like bsd is comparable to linux for the average end user. It's not. Ok...so say I wanted to run BSD instead of linux. Can I pop in an install dvd, have all of my hardware recognized and configured, and be dropped into kde or gnome, depending on what I chose?
Do I have nice programs available from the default install like SuSE or Fedora give me...so I don't have to use the command line and can take care of my machine from the GUI?
Your average non-geek user doesn't want to spend a large portion of his time using his computer working with config files trying to get things working right. They just want it to work. The free BSDs lose those people to Mac OS or linux.....not the other way around, no matter what developer issues are out there. You have to remember, the average user is not a developer.
I was on the forums for Lonelygirl15. I met a girl there and we started talking. A couple of months later she moved across the country to move in with me. We're now engaged. I have to say though, on a lot of internet forums and chat rooms, you have nothing to distract you. It's ALL about conversation. I probably knew more about her when she came than I did ANY girlfriend I met the traditional way.
Is this the same Bonita that used to do webcam chat and has braids in her hair? Her last name rhymes with randy? I find it hard to believe there are two in the same place.
I thought she went back to India.
If you say you have had no problems with it, then you really shouldn't start off your next sentence about a bug that's a show stopper for you and caused you to reinstall the previous OS.
You think this is great? Wait until his parents get the electric bill. Then the excitement really begins.
If it is, then you should blame Redhat, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. for adding these patches first...way before SuSE.
While you're at it, blame Gnome and Michael Icaza for Mono....surely THAT is worse than these patches..AND he had an agreement with Microsoft to develop it!
Read the article. This functionality has been available in Debian, Fedora Core, and Ubuntu already. SuSE is just finally adding it...a little behind the others. So, tell me again how this is Microsoft playing a trick...by distracting SuSE from patching so they're the last one to implement what may be an important feature to businesses?
I understand people hate Microsoft. But, how is this any different than the mono project and their microsoft deal?
Microsoft advertises on slashdot as well.
Microsoft is, in the end, just a company. It may be a monopoly, but it is just a company. It's not going to destroy linux if one company makes a deal with another one. Linux is an operating system that spans MANY companies. If anything, this may get linux into more of those pro-windows IT shops. The ones that aren't pro-windows won't care about the deal either way.
It just seems odd to me that people are foaming at the mouth over this.
You know, it gets to me when Americans think it's cute or right to stick these people back in igloos or teepees (depending on the climate) and telling them to suffer through life the same as their ancestors did.
You're not suffering like your ancestors did. So, why should they?
A lot of these indigenous people have snowmobiles now...they're a vast improvement over sled dogs. They have heaters and all the luxuries of home. You know what? THEY LIKE IT.
I heard...I think on NPR...the other day about these indigenous people and global warming. They were like "Hey! We're looking forward to it! We all need jobs and this would allow money to come into our area"
I was born in 1970. I had the normal toys for that time period....tonka trucks, weebles, those little balsa gliders...
What I remember most about my childhood is being bored out of my mind. Sure, I had toys and I'd play with them. But, after 30 minutes, you're sick of rolling a truck around on the ground. Weebles wobble....but after about 5 minutes you really don't care. I wanted toys that would DO something. This required batteries though...and batteries would wear down..leaving the toy sitting around.
I remember me and my friends sitting around just long enough to figure out who in the neighborhood would let us into the air conditioned house....then going there and sitting down...hopefully watching TV.
The Atari 2600 was a GODSEND. I don't blame these kids today. I envy them. I wish that was MY childhood
You haven't been reading...this is an onboard chipset
You know, I heard all the hype about Ubuntu. I heard how great it was, how it was the microsoft killer..so I downloaded and installed Kubuntu which, according to them, was ubuntu with kde.
ummm yeah. It may be great for the slackware crowd, but Ubuntu is NOWHERE near the stability and ease of use of SuSE or Redhat. Just the configuration tools in Redhat and SuSE set them far far apart from ubuntu.
If you don't want a clean and polished interface...if you don't want centralized configuration that does the job and does it well...if you don't want consistency across the desktop....then yes, Ubuntu is for you!
I'm just waiting to see everyone saying that slackware is going to take the desktop market by storm now...