I get the feeling that outside the US there's the perception that every other person over here is strapped up. People have guns yes, but the people that do generally have them in their house and the majority are hunting rifles/shotguns not handguns. Running into a person with a concealed carry permit is not that common of an occurrence and I have lived both in the south and the North, both rural and city both places. The idea that someone might have a gun doesn't really cross the mind of anyone over here when it comes to drunken sports fights any more then the idea that someone might have a knife would over there.
If you use the Kinect sensor with a platform other than Xbox 360, Xbox 360 S, or Windows (with the SDK Beta), you void the warranty you received when you purchased the Kinect sensor device.
So, Even though you saw all those cool demos a few months ago using 'unlicensed' software, you're not allowed to run them, and they could be punished for software licence violations.
If you consider them refusing to fix something you broke by running software platforms they haven't tested "punishing" you, I guess.
Is anyone really surprised banks and bankers are the problem? They're middlemen to the extreme. Not only do they not create any wealth, they actually get in the way of honest wealth creation.
Really? Banks provide loans that allow MANY small businesses to get off the ground. Without pooling the wealth of of the local community you won't have enough resources for individuals to make those loans because it will be too risky and they don't have the time, skills or knowledge in order to properly evaluate those risks and make those loans. Banks are about as much as a useless middleman as a butcher is the middleman in your food consumption.
Minecraft is a really big corporation now? That's like what, 10 people tops? So if someone comes into your neighborhood of 50 people and starts lighting houses on fire that's your own fault because that many people should be able to defend themselves?
Actually your both right (at least for the USA). Your reason is important, and GP's reason is as well. The founding father's specifically made references in their writings and speeches to their fear of "mob rule" from a direct democracy. Why do you think we have the electoral college? It's not because it's impossible to apply the populations votes directly toward a candidate once they've already been counted. It was meant to be another check on the mob to keep them from electing some populist bimbo that had duped the citizenry into voting for him even though they weren't qualified. And yes, it was also a compromise between the small states and large.
No matter how it's protected it's a new attack vector, and one that if compromised, means you can't trust any money in the system. One break and all that money is suspect...JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, anytime I write or click anything Slashdot's awesome scripting pushes me up to the top of the page so I cant see whatwtf I'm typing anymore. This is too frusterating to deal with, I give up.
That puts way too much trust in the client. Both the person's intentions, and the machine's durability. There's a reason why your debit card doesn't just have money tokens literally on the card.
I'm a moderately conservative middle-aged white guy with a professional job, and I HATE cops.
A white middle/upper class professional hates a group of blue collar low income people who are put in a position of authority over him? I'm shocked I say, SHOCKED!
Really? You honestly can't think of ANYTHING Anonymous might have done to make people interested in finding out who they are? I feel like Barr was stupid in the same way someone is stupid if they decided to shout "You're a Pussy, and I'm going to pwn you with all my evidence which I have currently on me with no copies!" at a crime lord in front of his gang with no one else around in the middle of the night. But it's still illegal to shoot stupid people. Likewise, DoS attacks, defacing websites, stealing emails and deleting backup servers are all illegal actions regardless of whether the stupid person "deserved" it or not.
Do you even understand the difference between the charges of "assault" and "aggravated assault"? They vary greatly by locality but I assure you that they come with completely different punishments.
Yes, but I get the feeling you don't. Aggravated Assault doesn't mean you assaulted someone because they aggravated you and they deserved it if that's what you're thinking. Aggravated Assault is actually the more serious of the two offenses. It means you assaulted someone in an even more serious way, like with a gun or with intent to murder, maim or rape the victim rather then just slapping them upside the head in a bar fight. If you did already know this perhaps you could make your point more clear because I really don't see how this applies to the situation at all.
Man, that movie would've been a lot funnier if they just started slaughtering every smartass who spoke up just to teach the rest a lesson.
Wait, did I say "funnier"? Sorry, I meant "more true to what would actually happen if there was anything like this demonic evil fascist dictatorship going on that everyone keeps talking about".
You're that same kid that read the first few pages of Lord of the Flies and then wrote a report on how great it was with all the kids living on an island make making Robinson Crusoe like shelters aren't you? At the end of the movie every single one of them is literally crucified along the road, cross after cross down the road, hanging there to teach everyone else a lesson.
(Emphasis mine). I don't know how certain members of Anonymous found themselves on the receiving end of Aaron Barr's maligned attacks on them but I don't see their reaction to such as all too out of line. Barr went after Anonymous [wired.com] and it's not entirely clear to me why persecution of Anonymous is sought.
Really? You honestly can't think of ANYTHING Anonymous might have done to make people interested in finding out who they are? I feel like Barr was stupid in the same way someone is stupid if they decided to shout "You're a Pussy, and I'm going to pwn you with all my evidence which I have currently on me with no copies!" at a crime lord in front of his gang with no one else around in the middle of the night. But it's still illegal to shoot stupid people. Likewise, DoS attacks, defacing websites, stealing emails and deleting backup servers are all illegal actions regardless of whether the stupid person "deserved" it or not.
..but there was a lot of NIMBY paranoia about flywheels breaking loose and roaming the countryside.
God, am I the only one who wants to live in a world where this actually happens and you see a bunch of ME's from the power plant with yellow hard hats on sprinting after it yelling "Shit-shit-shit-SHIT! -*crushes car* - SORRY! - shit-shit-shit-shit!"
Welcome to the "free market". Where a rising tide swamps all but the biggest boats.
Jesus Christ, irregardless of your understanding of economics you should at least be able to figure out that boats float. All of them. Like it's their job or something. That's the whole reason why the quote is "A rising tides lifts all boats".
I'm not exactly sure why you decide a device is entirely useless if by your definition it forces any would-be terrorists to take their weapons and shove them up their ass. Honestly, that sounds like the best weapon ever.
Not that I think this is a good site location, but in your hypothetical, if there's no people or organized government around to do so who cares? In such a post-apocalyptical world no ones going to care about a little nuclear waste winding up in the ocean when there's a zombie ripping their face off to get to their delicious brains.
My guess is they have more prisoners than computers, which is why they work in shifts. No need to hire extra people to fill potholes when you have abundant slave labor.
Anyone who chose to become a Sony customer in the last decade -- or at least since the rootkit fiasco -- should have known they would get screwed. By Sony, if nobody else.
I'm not saying the hackers are blameless, but is anyone really surprised at this?
Does anyone REALLY believe that even 10% of parents buying a gaming console for their child has any idea WTF the "rootkit fiasco" is? I think saying the average person "should have known" that an obscure event (yes, in the real world the rootkit fiasco is not on par with 9/11) burned into the memories of a small subculture that held onto it for years would eventually come back to hurting customers of that company is a little redic.
America really should never have been a superpower; it was an accident of history. The only reason America became a superpower is because of WWI and WWII; Europe was devastated in those two wars, and America got rich rebuilding them, as we were the only industrialized nation left standing (except maybe for Australia, but they didn't have much industrial capacity like America did).
Yes, it was also an accident of Geography that America was full of natural resources, farm-able land, and room to expand. And an accident of politics and colonialism that led to America's freedom of speech and religion which was a big early draw for immigration. But yea, if you discount the massive natural resources, the great natural protective barriers of the Oceans, the political climate that cause immigration, the policies that kept her out of European wars as long as possible, and the huge industrial base is used to help win those wars, I don't see why America ever should have become a super power. I mean, it's not even the Country with the most letters in it's name.
Whether the 3443 deaths due to drowning in a swimming pool is due to foreign action or a simple accident is simply irrelevant. Does it matter to the dead person if they died due to malicious intent or due to an accident? Of course not -- they are still dead! Is the pain of being separated from someone you love any less because it was just an accident? Of course not! The only difference is that in an accidental drowning, you actually have to deal with the pain of loss because you don't have someone to take it out on -- which I would argue only compounds the problem.
No, it's not irrelevant unless your advocating for the redesigning of how humans and society works. People have never worked this way and they never will. And the reason for that is because any people who do evolve to work that way (willing to write off large segments of their in-group getting killed by outsiders with no response because that would cost more) tend to get killed by groups willing to make the "irrational" decision of fighting back and deserted by members that would rather belong to a group that offers protection. The chief (and some would say only) job of a society/government is to protect the group from outsiders. A member getting themselves killed by drowning isn't expected to illicit a reaction from the government, but when outsiders come and kill members of the group the government is expected to strike back both in revenge and a show of force to discourage future attacks. And the first part of that is always going to outweigh the second. I'm not saying it's completely right, but I do think it does serve an evolutionary purpose, and I do think it's a large unchangeable state of operation as far as humans are concerned so positing ridiculous ideas like telling people they just shouldn't care about such an attack is never going to help. Instead you should at least try to work within the realm of human reality to make the change you want to see happen.
What's going on in Pakistan right now, in the wake of the raid that killed bin Laden? The Pakistani army is pissed at us (rightfully so, IMHO) because we invaded their sovereign territory and assassinated someone living in their country. We've publicly embarrassed and insulted them, and we've shown that we can take out anyone we want inside their country. Hmmm...so what happens when Pakistan decides that they need to hurt us back for the way we've embarrassed, insulted and scared them? Are they going to hit us back? And then we'll hit them back again, etc., etc., etc. That could get really ugly, really quickly. Pakistan IS a nuclear superpower, after all.
Yea, Pakistan is embarrassed. They should be. The world's most wanted man was living in their country right next to on of their premier military academies. So yes, we went in there showing we could do so with impunity and damaged their pride. But they also know they were on the wrong side of the equation in him being there. So they'll posture, they'll complain and they might stop letting us use some bases in order to regain their pride. But they're not going to strike back because they certainly aren't going to claim any people we killed were THEIR citizens and under THEIR protection and they know doing so would simply result in an no-win situation which would threaten their very survival.
Ultimately, we've GOT to get over the fear that we allowed into the country on 9/11. We have become the bully on the playground, and we're pissing off our allies all over the world as a result. The way we are approaching the "War on Terror" by treating everyone as a suspect, rather than empowering the very people we are trying to "protect" through these onerous laws only serves to make the problem worse (there was a really good article at rightsidenews.com [rightsidenews.com] on this topic recently). If we can't regain some sanity and stop running around like Chicken Little, our country is going to become a shell of what it once was.
People don't choose to be murdered either, and regular old non-terrorist murderers kill far more Americans than terrorism.
Oh, excellent point!! So the only question now is a matter of scale: How would the country respond if someone was responsible for just "regular murdering" the same amount of people as died in the 9/11 attacks. If some foreigner murdered over 3,000 people would we really decide to to spend the same amount of time an money to track and kill him and their origination for 10 years?
You're right of course, if we completely ignore how humans and society in general works and just pretend everyone are emotionless numbers on a balance sheet. But the truth is parents didn't have to explain to upset children in every house across the country why 3,000 people died in a swimming pool that day. The entire country didn't watch as 3,000 of their countrymen drown on live television due to a deliberate act of a foreign organization. And there is no damage to pride, no target for rage, and no target to make an example of to prevent accidental drowning deaths from happening again. You can throw numbers around all day, both economic impact and number of lives lost but at the end of the day people just don't work like that and the only absurdity here is believing that they do, or thinking that they should.
That requires moving your left hand off its natural position. So does F6. Alt-D doesn't.
What are you talking about, of course pressing Alt-D when browsing the internet requires moving the left hand out of it's natural....oh...OHhhh....natural typing position. Nevermind.
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I get the feeling that outside the US there's the perception that every other person over here is strapped up. People have guns yes, but the people that do generally have them in their house and the majority are hunting rifles/shotguns not handguns. Running into a person with a concealed carry permit is not that common of an occurrence and I have lived both in the south and the North, both rural and city both places. The idea that someone might have a gun doesn't really cross the mind of anyone over here when it comes to drunken sports fights any more then the idea that someone might have a knife would over there.
If you use the Kinect sensor with a platform other than Xbox 360, Xbox 360 S, or Windows (with the SDK Beta), you void the warranty you received when you purchased the Kinect sensor device.
So, Even though you saw all those cool demos a few months ago using 'unlicensed' software, you're not allowed to run them, and they could be punished for software licence violations.
If you consider them refusing to fix something you broke by running software platforms they haven't tested "punishing" you, I guess.
Is anyone really surprised banks and bankers are the problem? They're middlemen to the extreme. Not only do they not create any wealth, they actually get in the way of honest wealth creation.
Really? Banks provide loans that allow MANY small businesses to get off the ground. Without pooling the wealth of of the local community you won't have enough resources for individuals to make those loans because it will be too risky and they don't have the time, skills or knowledge in order to properly evaluate those risks and make those loans. Banks are about as much as a useless middleman as a butcher is the middleman in your food consumption.
Minecraft is a really big corporation now? That's like what, 10 people tops? So if someone comes into your neighborhood of 50 people and starts lighting houses on fire that's your own fault because that many people should be able to defend themselves?
Actually your both right (at least for the USA). Your reason is important, and GP's reason is as well. The founding father's specifically made references in their writings and speeches to their fear of "mob rule" from a direct democracy. Why do you think we have the electoral college? It's not because it's impossible to apply the populations votes directly toward a candidate once they've already been counted. It was meant to be another check on the mob to keep them from electing some populist bimbo that had duped the citizenry into voting for him even though they weren't qualified. And yes, it was also a compromise between the small states and large.
No matter how it's protected it's a new attack vector, and one that if compromised, means you can't trust any money in the system. One break and all that money is suspect...JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, anytime I write or click anything Slashdot's awesome scripting pushes me up to the top of the page so I cant see whatwtf I'm typing anymore. This is too frusterating to deal with, I give up.
That puts way too much trust in the client. Both the person's intentions, and the machine's durability. There's a reason why your debit card doesn't just have money tokens literally on the card.
Unreasonable search and seizure of your trash which you left out on the curb and if you live in a city are paying money to the city to take from you?
I'm a moderately conservative middle-aged white guy with a professional job, and I HATE cops.
A white middle/upper class professional hates a group of blue collar low income people who are put in a position of authority over him? I'm shocked I say, SHOCKED!
Really? You honestly can't think of ANYTHING Anonymous might have done to make people interested in finding out who they are? I feel like Barr was stupid in the same way someone is stupid if they decided to shout "You're a Pussy, and I'm going to pwn you with all my evidence which I have currently on me with no copies!" at a crime lord in front of his gang with no one else around in the middle of the night. But it's still illegal to shoot stupid people. Likewise, DoS attacks, defacing websites, stealing emails and deleting backup servers are all illegal actions regardless of whether the stupid person "deserved" it or not.
Do you even understand the difference between the charges of "assault" and "aggravated assault"? They vary greatly by locality but I assure you that they come with completely different punishments.
Yes, but I get the feeling you don't. Aggravated Assault doesn't mean you assaulted someone because they aggravated you and they deserved it if that's what you're thinking. Aggravated Assault is actually the more serious of the two offenses. It means you assaulted someone in an even more serious way, like with a gun or with intent to murder, maim or rape the victim rather then just slapping them upside the head in a bar fight. If you did already know this perhaps you could make your point more clear because I really don't see how this applies to the situation at all.
I am Spartacus!
Man, that movie would've been a lot funnier if they just started slaughtering every smartass who spoke up just to teach the rest a lesson.
Wait, did I say "funnier"? Sorry, I meant "more true to what would actually happen if there was anything like this demonic evil fascist dictatorship going on that everyone keeps talking about".
You're that same kid that read the first few pages of Lord of the Flies and then wrote a report on how great it was with all the kids living on an island make making Robinson Crusoe like shelters aren't you? At the end of the movie every single one of them is literally crucified along the road, cross after cross down the road, hanging there to teach everyone else a lesson.
(Emphasis mine). I don't know how certain members of Anonymous found themselves on the receiving end of Aaron Barr's maligned attacks on them but I don't see their reaction to such as all too out of line. Barr went after Anonymous [wired.com] and it's not entirely clear to me why persecution of Anonymous is sought.
Really? You honestly can't think of ANYTHING Anonymous might have done to make people interested in finding out who they are? I feel like Barr was stupid in the same way someone is stupid if they decided to shout "You're a Pussy, and I'm going to pwn you with all my evidence which I have currently on me with no copies!" at a crime lord in front of his gang with no one else around in the middle of the night. But it's still illegal to shoot stupid people. Likewise, DoS attacks, defacing websites, stealing emails and deleting backup servers are all illegal actions regardless of whether the stupid person "deserved" it or not.
..but there was a lot of NIMBY paranoia about flywheels breaking loose and roaming the countryside.
God, am I the only one who wants to live in a world where this actually happens and you see a bunch of ME's from the power plant with yellow hard hats on sprinting after it yelling "Shit-shit-shit-SHIT! -*crushes car* - SORRY! - shit-shit-shit-shit!"
Welcome to the "free market". Where a rising tide swamps all but the biggest boats.
Jesus Christ, irregardless of your understanding of economics you should at least be able to figure out that boats float. All of them. Like it's their job or something. That's the whole reason why the quote is "A rising tides lifts all boats".
I'm not exactly sure why you decide a device is entirely useless if by your definition it forces any would-be terrorists to take their weapons and shove them up their ass. Honestly, that sounds like the best weapon ever.
Not that I think this is a good site location, but in your hypothetical, if there's no people or organized government around to do so who cares? In such a post-apocalyptical world no ones going to care about a little nuclear waste winding up in the ocean when there's a zombie ripping their face off to get to their delicious brains.
My guess is they have more prisoners than computers, which is why they work in shifts. No need to hire extra people to fill potholes when you have abundant slave labor.
Anyone who chose to become a Sony customer in the last decade -- or at least since the rootkit fiasco -- should have known they would get screwed. By Sony, if nobody else.
I'm not saying the hackers are blameless, but is anyone really surprised at this?
Does anyone REALLY believe that even 10% of parents buying a gaming console for their child has any idea WTF the "rootkit fiasco" is? I think saying the average person "should have known" that an obscure event (yes, in the real world the rootkit fiasco is not on par with 9/11) burned into the memories of a small subculture that held onto it for years would eventually come back to hurting customers of that company is a little redic.
America really should never have been a superpower; it was an accident of history. The only reason America became a superpower is because of WWI and WWII; Europe was devastated in those two wars, and America got rich rebuilding them, as we were the only industrialized nation left standing (except maybe for Australia, but they didn't have much industrial capacity like America did).
Yes, it was also an accident of Geography that America was full of natural resources, farm-able land, and room to expand. And an accident of politics and colonialism that led to America's freedom of speech and religion which was a big early draw for immigration. But yea, if you discount the massive natural resources, the great natural protective barriers of the Oceans, the political climate that cause immigration, the policies that kept her out of European wars as long as possible, and the huge industrial base is used to help win those wars, I don't see why America ever should have become a super power. I mean, it's not even the Country with the most letters in it's name.
Whether the 3443 deaths due to drowning in a swimming pool is due to foreign action or a simple accident is simply irrelevant. Does it matter to the dead person if they died due to malicious intent or due to an accident? Of course not -- they are still dead! Is the pain of being separated from someone you love any less because it was just an accident? Of course not! The only difference is that in an accidental drowning, you actually have to deal with the pain of loss because you don't have someone to take it out on -- which I would argue only compounds the problem.
No, it's not irrelevant unless your advocating for the redesigning of how humans and society works. People have never worked this way and they never will. And the reason for that is because any people who do evolve to work that way (willing to write off large segments of their in-group getting killed by outsiders with no response because that would cost more) tend to get killed by groups willing to make the "irrational" decision of fighting back and deserted by members that would rather belong to a group that offers protection. The chief (and some would say only) job of a society/government is to protect the group from outsiders. A member getting themselves killed by drowning isn't expected to illicit a reaction from the government, but when outsiders come and kill members of the group the government is expected to strike back both in revenge and a show of force to discourage future attacks. And the first part of that is always going to outweigh the second. I'm not saying it's completely right, but I do think it does serve an evolutionary purpose, and I do think it's a large unchangeable state of operation as far as humans are concerned so positing ridiculous ideas like telling people they just shouldn't care about such an attack is never going to help. Instead you should at least try to work within the realm of human reality to make the change you want to see happen.
What's going on in Pakistan right now, in the wake of the raid that killed bin Laden? The Pakistani army is pissed at us (rightfully so, IMHO) because we invaded their sovereign territory and assassinated someone living in their country. We've publicly embarrassed and insulted them, and we've shown that we can take out anyone we want inside their country. Hmmm...so what happens when Pakistan decides that they need to hurt us back for the way we've embarrassed, insulted and scared them? Are they going to hit us back? And then we'll hit them back again, etc., etc., etc. That could get really ugly, really quickly. Pakistan IS a nuclear superpower, after all.
Yea, Pakistan is embarrassed. They should be. The world's most wanted man was living in their country right next to on of their premier military academies. So yes, we went in there showing we could do so with impunity and damaged their pride. But they also know they were on the wrong side of the equation in him being there. So they'll posture, they'll complain and they might stop letting us use some bases in order to regain their pride. But they're not going to strike back because they certainly aren't going to claim any people we killed were THEIR citizens and under THEIR protection and they know doing so would simply result in an no-win situation which would threaten their very survival.
Ultimately, we've GOT to get over the fear that we allowed into the country on 9/11. We have become the bully on the playground, and we're pissing off our allies all over the world as a result. The way we are approaching the "War on Terror" by treating everyone as a suspect, rather than empowering the very people we are trying to "protect" through these onerous laws only serves to make the problem worse (there was a really good article at rightsidenews.com [rightsidenews.com] on this topic recently). If we can't regain some sanity and stop running around like Chicken Little, our country is going to become a shell of what it once was.
People don't choose to be murdered either, and regular old non-terrorist murderers kill far more Americans than terrorism.
Oh, excellent point!! So the only question now is a matter of scale: How would the country respond if someone was responsible for just "regular murdering" the same amount of people as died in the 9/11 attacks. If some foreigner murdered over 3,000 people would we really decide to to spend the same amount of time an money to track and kill him and their origination for 10 years?
You're right of course, if we completely ignore how humans and society in general works and just pretend everyone are emotionless numbers on a balance sheet. But the truth is parents didn't have to explain to upset children in every house across the country why 3,000 people died in a swimming pool that day. The entire country didn't watch as 3,000 of their countrymen drown on live television due to a deliberate act of a foreign organization. And there is no damage to pride, no target for rage, and no target to make an example of to prevent accidental drowning deaths from happening again. You can throw numbers around all day, both economic impact and number of lives lost but at the end of the day people just don't work like that and the only absurdity here is believing that they do, or thinking that they should.
That requires moving your left hand off its natural position. So does F6. Alt-D doesn't.
What are you talking about, of course pressing Alt-D when browsing the internet requires moving the left hand out of it's natural....oh...OHhhh....natural typing position. Nevermind.
And who did he piss off in the US Government to get rape charges against him?
Probably the detective or officer who received the initial rape complaint. They hate it when people do that.
Was there a line missing in the article? "This study was brought to you by the corn-syrup industry."
I just can't wait until the giant "fluids and rest" industry finally lets go their stranglehold and releases the common cold cure.