You might be surprised what could happen as far as motivation to build new technologies if the general public saw a real picture of some distant world with bluish waters, brown and green continents and pearly white clouds.
Am I the only one here who's programmed that beast? Assembly language; Fortran had just been invented. Might fit one into a current Walmart, might not. I recall during our training (LA) we heard of another computer in the city! Had to go talk to those guys across town.
Still cranking out code, at 84.
Whoever you are, Slashdot should interview you about your experiences.
With more than 1366x768 resolution. Fuck laptops suck. I don't want an I7 to get the pixels. I'm not playing games. I just want text to look nice while I'm coding.
You are clearly Apple's target market. They should listen to you.
Happy Birthday and exactly, I am also related to someone whose birthday is tomorrow, which is how I also remember it. Its amazing how with so much information at people's fingertips that they keep eroding facts.
Tomorrow is also the 30th anniversary of Richard Stallman announcing the FSF/GNU initiative.
Because we all know that if the researchers quietly tell the auto manufacturers they will fix the issues and make sure everything gets updated. Our upstanding auto manufacturers would certainly not try to bury issue and sue the reporters out of existence!
As a security researcher you should be used to companies trying to deny, bury and ignore reports instead of correct them.
Seriously, the only way to get a company to fix a flaw is when the pr nightmare becomes so great that it is cheaper to fix the problem than deny it.
Yes and I also know about technically minded people denying that problems are real issues too (See libvte vulnerability). DARPA has known about these issues for a while now and apparently the issues are a lot more real and scary than most people realize. We're talking about the ability for a hacker to do something to your car simply by playing a song over your iPod or on a CD. Or a program being injected the next time you get an oil change because the service center's computer had been hacked remotely.
And we're not talking about ego maniac hackers sitting in their basements causing a few cars to honk their horn because they think it will be funny, we're talking about terrorists and countries writing a song that one day everyone plays one day and we have 1 million 60mph 2 ton missles with families in them flying up the road all the same time. That will be a very bad day. But that's ok, because we tried to tell the auto manufacturers and they just didn't listen, so its their fault right?
What these researchers are doing here is treating this vulnerability as if its any other vulnerability, which its not. Human life is at stake, not your email or bank account password. Yes, they do recognize the dangers, but they don't seem to realize that they should be changing their approach accordingly. For instance, they do their tests out in the open on public roads and put someone behind the wheel who doesn't know what is going to happen. You don't really need to do that to demonstrate that there is a problem.
"The duo plans to release their findings and the attack software they developed at the hacker conference Defcon in Las Vegas next month–the better, they say, to help other researchers find and fix the auto industry's security problems"
As a security researcher who believes in the spirit of the open release of vulnerabilities, I feel that this is irresponsible behavior on the part of these security researchers. We're not talking about releasing a vulnerability that will compromise someone's e-mail. We're talking about a high risk vulnerability that could cost some random person their life. These two gentleman should take a deep breath before releasing this information to the computer industry first rather than the auto industry. The auto industry may not have a tradition of attending these types of conferences and so by releasing the information at Def-con you're giving the wrong people a head start. Sure, the auto industry already knows about these problems, but you have to try to give them the benefit of the doubt when you confront them about the problems that they will try to fix it.
Right on man. I know its hard to argue with these children who have grown up in a world of piracy, but you gotta try for the sake of humanity not turning into a bunch of thieves.
Given the nature of bitcoins I'm not sure how this would work. Not everyone would be able to do it or there would be limited supply and shortages once in a while. Might be kinda interesting.
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It seems every article that mentions OS/2 makes mention of how entrenched it is in ATMs...
There is also a restaurant up the street from me that has the best burgers in town.
You might be surprised what could happen as far as motivation to build new technologies if the general public saw a real picture of some distant world with bluish waters, brown and green continents and pearly white clouds.
Am I the only one here who's programmed that beast? Assembly language; Fortran had just been invented. Might fit one into a current Walmart, might not. I recall during our training (LA) we heard of another computer in the city! Had to go talk to those guys across town.
Still cranking out code, at 84.
Whoever you are, Slashdot should interview you about your experiences.
Now if we can only determine the connection between Zuckerberg and Verizon, we can blow this CryptoLocker thing wide open.
http://verizonmath.blogspot.ca/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html
Its amazing that this is the only comment that mentioned Verizon math. Maybe I'm not on the right site. This is Slashdot correct?
Garage fires aren't a very common topic on Slashdot.
Don't they already put that warning on the box?
With more than 1366x768 resolution. Fuck laptops suck.
I don't want an I7 to get the pixels. I'm not playing games. I just want text to look nice while I'm coding.
You are clearly Apple's target market. They should listen to you.
Given recent events, you'd be lucky if you even had a chance to open your mouth.
Happy Birthday and exactly, I am also related to someone whose birthday is tomorrow, which is how I also remember it. Its amazing how with so much information at people's fingertips that they keep eroding facts.
Tomorrow is also the 30th anniversary of Richard Stallman announcing the FSF/GNU initiative.
Yeah, that was a mistake, how many times have I accidentally rebooted Linux because I was trying to login to my windows vm.
You're right that's how I ended up with two kids.
If you want to make a lot of stupid jokes about the Pentium chip, don't worry, they were already made 10 years ago in the other Slashdot article
Sally: Mom, Bobby is moving my hand, tell him to stop.
Bobby: I'm not moving it.
Missing option: Answering this poll
I had to do a SIGINT on previous girlfriends too.
Remember when creating high quality open source software didn't require a Kickstarter campaign?
And what cars are those?
Me, I stay safe and only drive cars with carburetors.
Until one of the hacked cars hits you head-on at 60 mph.
Because we all know that if the researchers quietly tell the auto manufacturers they will fix the issues and make sure everything gets updated. Our upstanding auto manufacturers would certainly not try to bury issue and sue the reporters out of existence!
As a security researcher you should be used to companies trying to deny, bury and ignore reports instead of correct them.
Seriously, the only way to get a company to fix a flaw is when the pr nightmare becomes so great that it is cheaper to fix the problem than deny it.
Yes and I also know about technically minded people denying that problems are real issues too (See libvte vulnerability). DARPA has known about these issues for a while now and apparently the issues are a lot more real and scary than most people realize. We're talking about the ability for a hacker to do something to your car simply by playing a song over your iPod or on a CD. Or a program being injected the next time you get an oil change because the service center's computer had been hacked remotely.
And we're not talking about ego maniac hackers sitting in their basements causing a few cars to honk their horn because they think it will be funny, we're talking about terrorists and countries writing a song that one day everyone plays one day and we have 1 million 60mph 2 ton missles with families in them flying up the road all the same time. That will be a very bad day. But that's ok, because we tried to tell the auto manufacturers and they just didn't listen, so its their fault right?
What these researchers are doing here is treating this vulnerability as if its any other vulnerability, which its not. Human life is at stake, not your email or bank account password. Yes, they do recognize the dangers, but they don't seem to realize that they should be changing their approach accordingly. For instance, they do their tests out in the open on public roads and put someone behind the wheel who doesn't know what is going to happen. You don't really need to do that to demonstrate that there is a problem.
"The duo plans to release their findings and the attack software they developed at the hacker conference Defcon in Las Vegas next month–the better, they say, to help other researchers find and fix the auto industry's security problems"
As a security researcher who believes in the spirit of the open release of vulnerabilities, I feel that this is irresponsible behavior on the part of these security researchers. We're not talking about releasing a vulnerability that will compromise someone's e-mail. We're talking about a high risk vulnerability that could cost some random person their life. These two gentleman should take a deep breath before releasing this information to the computer industry first rather than the auto industry. The auto industry may not have a tradition of attending these types of conferences and so by releasing the information at Def-con you're giving the wrong people a head start. Sure, the auto industry already knows about these problems, but you have to try to give them the benefit of the doubt when you confront them about the problems that they will try to fix it.
uh huh....fake...
That's what they WANT you to think.
Zing!
how come the movies that are hardest hit by piracy happen to be making the most money..
Probably because they have the most to lose by them being pirated. So they care about those the most. Duh!
They do when the street vendors in those countries can easily use them to sell pirated discs.
Right on man. I know its hard to argue with these children who have grown up in a world of piracy, but you gotta try for the sake of humanity not turning into a bunch of thieves.
Given the nature of bitcoins I'm not sure how this would work. Not everyone would be able to do it or there would be limited supply and shortages once in a while. Might be kinda interesting.