Then Google killed Orkut, and tried to shove Google+ on us
You left out the reason. Orkut was conquered by Brazil, and became worthless for anyone else. Every day it was just a bunch of add requests from Brazilians I'd never heard of. Google wanted an international community, not just Brazilians, which is why they cancelled it.
You can use Google Takeout to download your data and rehost it elsewhere for any of their services. Do other major players make it convenient/possible to do that?
Yes. You can download your Facebook activity. Settings -> Your facebook information -> Download your information.
I'm also curious about what you think they got right?
They got rid of the bad whitespace, they got plus tagging working like one expected, and it was just generally competent. I guess we were just the beta testers. It didn't cost me anything, and I don't depend on it for anything, so I'm not upset about it. It does confirm my opinion that Google feels free to discontinue things without any concern for the users, but that's not exactly a secret in any case. If one isn't even a paying customer, one doesn't have much right to complain. I think it would be unfair not to provide a whole bunch of warning if they were going to discontinue something major like gmail... or Android.
Google+ had all kinds of growing pains, typically involving the addition unnecessary whitespace. Plus tagging often worked very poorly, with everyone but the person you were trying to tag coming up in the list, and with it sorting and re-sorting itself under your mouse pointer (or finger) when you finally found them. But recently, they got everything working nicely, including translation. Therefore, it's sad to see it go, as it was the easiest social network to use with an international community.
G+ never had many users, so this will not cause a lot of harm. I went to Pluspora so as to have an alternative to Facebook for things I actually want to post publicly. (If I cared whether people actually read what I said, I'd post somewhere other than either. More people probably read me here, for example.) But Google isn't actually killing it, they're just making it a feature only in their business office product. Perhaps they got tired of patrolling it for porn.
I work at a landfill. [...] plastic bags, plastic wrap, and chip/crisps/cookie/biscuit bags...ban those if you really want to have a positive effect on the environment.
I've been wondering, what effect does compostable packaging have at your end? Any?
The more phones use the same System on Chip as your phone, the more support there will be for it, as a rule. I believe that Mali is the only GPU core that's got OSS drivers, so if that's a thing you might care about at some point, look for a SoC that's got a Mali GPU.
The trick is just matching up what they have with the *exact* model that Lineage supports.
Yes. And the supported models are generally based on what SoC they're built on, and the model for a certain frequency range in a specific region will often have a different model number and use a different SoC.
If you can actually lay your hands on unlocked phones, then you are in a position to get their model numbers, and look them up on XDA-Developers. Figure out which of the interesting ones have active development on there. Of those, pick one from a vendor which is historically friendly to unlocking, and if there's a choice, choose one for which the vendor has promised updates into the future.
I went with Moto X4 Android One edition, which Motorola has been clearing out at $150 for 3GB/32GB. It's IP68 and they have bootloader unlocking, and an OTA to Pie. LineageOS for this phone is Pie-based. First one had a bad speaker, but I'm happy with this one so far...
Jesus Christ, that's a level of selfishness that you must be proud of.
It's not uncommon, Americans are the only ones dumb/honest/narcissistic enough to admit to it in any significant number, though. But everyone loves convenience. It equates to time saved, and that time can then be spent in typical other ways, like navel-gazing or masturbation.
The main thing I don't want is Google or Apple capturing all of my data and tracking everything I do. I need to be able to use email all of the time, and make phone calls, but that's all I need.
That's why you'd be better off with LineageOS on a smartphone than with whatever ancient bullshit is on a flip phone. It's better for email. Like I said, just don't add any accounts to your phone, or your browser, and you'll get as close as possible to what you're looking for. Frankly, you could get that even with AOSP, but LineageOS is nicer than AOSP. The most important part is to get a popular phone which uses a popular SoC and which is also unlockable (both bootloader and SIM.) If you don't have that, you don't have anything.
I used to use a SEMC Xperia Play. The initial install was full of stock apps, etc. Official updates ended at gingerbread. But the device was fully unlockable, and unofficial upgrades got it up to ICS...
GIF has not changed much in tech since 1989 (it was developed in 1987). For most of its existence it had been pronounced with a soft g, like "jif".
Nonsense. I'd estimate that perhaps one in twenty people said it with a soft g before its creator infamously weighed in on the subject. Even then, I'd guess that probably less than one in four people switched to pronouncing it the same as the peanut butter, and they only did it because they're followers.
CompuServe used it and if you never used CompuServe, you don't know jack.
I didn't use Comp$erve because I couldn't afford it. I used local BBSes instead. Then I became a UUCP node, so I could get email from far away without spending dollars per minute. Later I lived in a geek house which was such an early participant on the internets that we had an entire class C (165.227.17.0) on a 28.8k modem. It cost less per month than a few hours of Compu$erve.
(Dollar signs included just to piss off the people who cry about people writing M$... because if you don't spell Compu$erve with a dollar sign, you don't know jack)
Must be a new record on being slow to report something.
It's just a sunday, aka slow news day. So it was time to troll the userbase in an attempt to get the ad impression count up. If it wasn't how to pronounce GIF, it would be about women in STEM jobs, or something something Trump something.
Jif is a a peanut butter. Gif is a Graphics format.
This is why it has to be a hard G. The name gained popularity in the USA first, where we have something else pronounced with a J. As you say, it's a peanut butter. It doesn't make sense to call two popular things by the same name if it can be avoided, and it easily can — if one simply pronounces GIF with a hard G.
All that other stuff about how words are pronounced is a lot of nonsense. All that matters is pronouncing it differently from the peanut butter.
With that said, I also think that it's dumb to pronounce it with a soft G since the word is graphics, pronounced with a hard G. I just don't think that argument is particularly relevant. Dumb things happen in English all the time.
I spend all day in email. That's all I need my "smart" phone for. I should probably look into flip phones that handle email well.
Flip phones may have less attack surface than smarter phones, but they also have less security updates. There's no particular reason to believe that they are more secure. If you want a more secure smartphone, run LineageOS on an Android phone and don't add any accounts to the system, only to the email client. But ultimately, you don't control any cellphone; they all have closed blobs for their radios. There's literally no point to using a flip phone to get more security.
People here say "what happens when the elite no longer need the little people" but they're thinking small. What happens when the machines no longer need the elite people?
We haven't even reached the first scenario yet, although it's coming up rapidly. It's not clear that we will ever reach the second. It may not actually be physically possible. We understand consciousness poorly enough that we can't say for sure that it will be.
Pound sand because where he grew up bookstores didnt operate? Talk about an ignorant, selfish fuck.
It's not the most polite way to make his point, but it's still a valid point. Independent bookstores only ever served a small percentage of the population. Most people got most of their text media from other sources. Early on it was because they didn't read, and someone was reading them the news. Later on it was because independent bookstores were small, and because libraries existed. Now it's because they're small and vanishing, and because Amazon exists. They also don't solve the book sales problem as well as Amazon does. They can't compete with Amazon's selection. They should go away, and be replaced by something better, now that something better is here. And we should have a safety net so that their owners and employees don't become homeless when it happens.
Nostalgia shouldn't hold back progress, but progress shouldn't be permitted to roll right over people, either. Progress is supposed to benefit the people, otherwise we're just slaves — either to an upper class, or worse, to an idea.
Who gets to determine the "value" of someone? Everyone has value to someone else. Value is subjective and relative.
If you pick a point to stand on, you can determine value from that standpoint. For example, economic output, which is what we're looking at here. Most jobless people have negative economic value. Just by existing, they often manage to get in the way of those attempting to produce economic output.
Right now those people could be given economic value by giving them jobs.
To me this suggests two major topics of conversation. One is, how do we continue to give people economic value after there is no work left for them to do because automation has taken all the jobs they're capable of doing. The other is how do we move past capitalism so that people's value doesn't have to be based on economic output?
Cheaper solution, give parasites nothing, they'll either have to create wealth like the rest of us or starve. Problem solved.
That's not cheaper. They'll come take food from you, and stopping them will be more expensive than just feeding and educating them. Even if you shoot them, you have to dispose of the bodies.
I got Xenix for my 286 (on 5.25" HD floppy) from someone on the dev team. By the time I got a 386, Linux was a thing, and I installed Slackware from a bunch of 3.5" HD floppies...
When you have a solar wind particle coming in at a million miles per hour colliding with an atmospheric particle (or several), momentum is conserved and that particle easily reaches escape velocity.
On the other hand, without a magnetosphere to deflect those solar wind particles, they're going to fall towards the planet.
Increased carbon dioxide levels do increase plant growth for some plants grown in greenhouses.
Sure, it just doesn't increase tree growth. It doesn't help all plants you might grow in a greenhouse, either. And in order to use more CO2 you need more insolation, but you also need to keep temperatures below 100 degrees (or so) because plants shut their stoma around there to decrease moisture loss. If you use supplemental light, and coolers in the hot season, then you can do meaningful CO2 enrichment.
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Then Google killed Orkut, and tried to shove Google+ on us
You left out the reason. Orkut was conquered by Brazil, and became worthless for anyone else. Every day it was just a bunch of add requests from Brazilians I'd never heard of. Google wanted an international community, not just Brazilians, which is why they cancelled it.
You can use Google Takeout to download your data and rehost it elsewhere for any of their services. Do other major players make it convenient/possible to do that?
Yes. You can download your Facebook activity. Settings -> Your facebook information -> Download your information.
I'm also curious about what you think they got right?
They got rid of the bad whitespace, they got plus tagging working like one expected, and it was just generally competent. I guess we were just the beta testers. It didn't cost me anything, and I don't depend on it for anything, so I'm not upset about it. It does confirm my opinion that Google feels free to discontinue things without any concern for the users, but that's not exactly a secret in any case. If one isn't even a paying customer, one doesn't have much right to complain. I think it would be unfair not to provide a whole bunch of warning if they were going to discontinue something major like gmail... or Android.
Google+ had all kinds of growing pains, typically involving the addition unnecessary whitespace. Plus tagging often worked very poorly, with everyone but the person you were trying to tag coming up in the list, and with it sorting and re-sorting itself under your mouse pointer (or finger) when you finally found them. But recently, they got everything working nicely, including translation. Therefore, it's sad to see it go, as it was the easiest social network to use with an international community.
G+ never had many users, so this will not cause a lot of harm. I went to Pluspora so as to have an alternative to Facebook for things I actually want to post publicly. (If I cared whether people actually read what I said, I'd post somewhere other than either. More people probably read me here, for example.) But Google isn't actually killing it, they're just making it a feature only in their business office product. Perhaps they got tired of patrolling it for porn.
I work at a landfill. [...] plastic bags, plastic wrap, and chip/crisps/cookie/biscuit bags...ban those if you really want to have a positive effect on the environment.
I've been wondering, what effect does compostable packaging have at your end? Any?
What's a popular "SoC"?
The more phones use the same System on Chip as your phone, the more support there will be for it, as a rule. I believe that Mali is the only GPU core that's got OSS drivers, so if that's a thing you might care about at some point, look for a SoC that's got a Mali GPU.
The trick is just matching up what they have with the *exact* model that Lineage supports.
Yes. And the supported models are generally based on what SoC they're built on, and the model for a certain frequency range in a specific region will often have a different model number and use a different SoC.
If you can actually lay your hands on unlocked phones, then you are in a position to get their model numbers, and look them up on XDA-Developers. Figure out which of the interesting ones have active development on there. Of those, pick one from a vendor which is historically friendly to unlocking, and if there's a choice, choose one for which the vendor has promised updates into the future.
I went with Moto X4 Android One edition, which Motorola has been clearing out at $150 for 3GB/32GB. It's IP68 and they have bootloader unlocking, and an OTA to Pie. LineageOS for this phone is Pie-based. First one had a bad speaker, but I'm happy with this one so far...
Jesus Christ, that's a level of selfishness that you must be proud of.
It's not uncommon, Americans are the only ones dumb/honest/narcissistic enough to admit to it in any significant number, though. But everyone loves convenience. It equates to time saved, and that time can then be spent in typical other ways, like navel-gazing or masturbation.
Right, because the U.S. never had homophones before like Fat and Phat. Retard.
That's a stupid argument, because that was intentionally homophonic.
The main thing I don't want is Google or Apple capturing all of my data and tracking everything I do. I need to be able to use email all of the time, and make phone calls, but that's all I need.
That's why you'd be better off with LineageOS on a smartphone than with whatever ancient bullshit is on a flip phone. It's better for email. Like I said, just don't add any accounts to your phone, or your browser, and you'll get as close as possible to what you're looking for. Frankly, you could get that even with AOSP, but LineageOS is nicer than AOSP. The most important part is to get a popular phone which uses a popular SoC and which is also unlockable (both bootloader and SIM.) If you don't have that, you don't have anything.
I used to use a SEMC Xperia Play. The initial install was full of stock apps, etc. Official updates ended at gingerbread. But the device was fully unlockable, and unofficial upgrades got it up to ICS...
GIF has not changed much in tech since 1989 (it was developed in 1987). For most of its existence it had been pronounced with a soft g, like "jif".
Nonsense. I'd estimate that perhaps one in twenty people said it with a soft g before its creator infamously weighed in on the subject. Even then, I'd guess that probably less than one in four people switched to pronouncing it the same as the peanut butter, and they only did it because they're followers.
CompuServe used it and if you never used CompuServe, you don't know jack.
I didn't use Comp$erve because I couldn't afford it. I used local BBSes instead. Then I became a UUCP node, so I could get email from far away without spending dollars per minute. Later I lived in a geek house which was such an early participant on the internets that we had an entire class C (165.227.17.0) on a 28.8k modem. It cost less per month than a few hours of Compu$erve.
(Dollar signs included just to piss off the people who cry about people writing M$... because if you don't spell Compu$erve with a dollar sign, you don't know jack)
Must be a new record on being slow to report something.
It's just a sunday, aka slow news day. So it was time to troll the userbase in an attempt to get the ad impression count up. If it wasn't how to pronounce GIF, it would be about women in STEM jobs, or something something Trump something.
PNG is pronounced like the word "ping" per the spec.
I have literally never heard anyone say PNG without spelling it out. Nor PNM, for that matter.
Jif is a a peanut butter. Gif is a Graphics format.
This is why it has to be a hard G. The name gained popularity in the USA first, where we have something else pronounced with a J. As you say, it's a peanut butter. It doesn't make sense to call two popular things by the same name if it can be avoided, and it easily can — if one simply pronounces GIF with a hard G.
All that other stuff about how words are pronounced is a lot of nonsense. All that matters is pronouncing it differently from the peanut butter.
With that said, I also think that it's dumb to pronounce it with a soft G since the word is graphics, pronounced with a hard G. I just don't think that argument is particularly relevant. Dumb things happen in English all the time.
I spend all day in email. That's all I need my "smart" phone for. I should probably look into flip phones that handle email well.
Flip phones may have less attack surface than smarter phones, but they also have less security updates. There's no particular reason to believe that they are more secure. If you want a more secure smartphone, run LineageOS on an Android phone and don't add any accounts to the system, only to the email client. But ultimately, you don't control any cellphone; they all have closed blobs for their radios. There's literally no point to using a flip phone to get more security.
People here say "what happens when the elite no longer need the little people" but they're thinking small. What happens when the machines no longer need the elite people?
We haven't even reached the first scenario yet, although it's coming up rapidly. It's not clear that we will ever reach the second. It may not actually be physically possible. We understand consciousness poorly enough that we can't say for sure that it will be.
Pound sand because where he grew up bookstores didnt operate? Talk about an ignorant, selfish fuck.
It's not the most polite way to make his point, but it's still a valid point. Independent bookstores only ever served a small percentage of the population. Most people got most of their text media from other sources. Early on it was because they didn't read, and someone was reading them the news. Later on it was because independent bookstores were small, and because libraries existed. Now it's because they're small and vanishing, and because Amazon exists. They also don't solve the book sales problem as well as Amazon does. They can't compete with Amazon's selection. They should go away, and be replaced by something better, now that something better is here. And we should have a safety net so that their owners and employees don't become homeless when it happens.
Nostalgia shouldn't hold back progress, but progress shouldn't be permitted to roll right over people, either. Progress is supposed to benefit the people, otherwise we're just slaves — either to an upper class, or worse, to an idea.
Who gets to determine the "value" of someone? Everyone has value to someone else. Value is subjective and relative.
If you pick a point to stand on, you can determine value from that standpoint. For example, economic output, which is what we're looking at here. Most jobless people have negative economic value. Just by existing, they often manage to get in the way of those attempting to produce economic output.
Right now those people could be given economic value by giving them jobs.
To me this suggests two major topics of conversation. One is, how do we continue to give people economic value after there is no work left for them to do because automation has taken all the jobs they're capable of doing. The other is how do we move past capitalism so that people's value doesn't have to be based on economic output?
Cheaper solution, give parasites nothing, they'll either have to create wealth like the rest of us or starve. Problem solved.
That's not cheaper. They'll come take food from you, and stopping them will be more expensive than just feeding and educating them. Even if you shoot them, you have to dispose of the bodies.
I got Xenix for my 286 (on 5.25" HD floppy) from someone on the dev team. By the time I got a 386, Linux was a thing, and I installed Slackware from a bunch of 3.5" HD floppies...
to burn an iso to dvd, (over 4 gigs)
So use a double-layer DVD, if you refuse to use a USB stick, or a SD card.
I would argue that the Newton was pretty innovative.
A mere four years after GRiDPad, so innovative
When you have a solar wind particle coming in at a million miles per hour colliding with an atmospheric particle (or several), momentum is conserved and that particle easily reaches escape velocity.
On the other hand, without a magnetosphere to deflect those solar wind particles, they're going to fall towards the planet.
If only they had listened to the experts!
Perhaps they did, and colonized this planet :p
Increased carbon dioxide levels do increase plant growth for some plants grown in greenhouses.
Sure, it just doesn't increase tree growth. It doesn't help all plants you might grow in a greenhouse, either. And in order to use more CO2 you need more insolation, but you also need to keep temperatures below 100 degrees (or so) because plants shut their stoma around there to decrease moisture loss. If you use supplemental light, and coolers in the hot season, then you can do meaningful CO2 enrichment.